cheap voip in numbers for South Africa and Sudan

Where can I find
cheap voip in numbers for South Africa and Sudan ?

Stephen

Stephen Hammond <Stephen@haclothesmmond.st> wrote:
> Where can I find
> cheap voip in numbers for South Africa and Sudan ?

I'm not sure you'll find any for Sudan... telecoms is still heavily state
regulated. While there are a few VSPs in Sudan I don't think they have too
many links to the PSTN. I got the impression much backhaul was still
analogue telecoms over copper pairs, though there's been a fair ADSL rollout
recently (in Khartoum anyway) so this might have changed.

Here's the statistics of companies active in Sudanese telecoms:
http://www.ntc.org.sd/index.php?page...ng=eng&pid=153
Not a lot as you can see...

If you do find anything I'd be most interested. Out of interest do you have
any recommendations for VOIP providers to call the Sudanese PSTN? I have a
few UK dialthrough numbers which work, but they're low on capacity and many
others have quality issues (current favourite is 0871 999 1414 which is good
quality but it runs out of capacity in the late afternoon GMT).

Theo

> Where can I find
>> cheap voip in numbers for South Africa and Sudan ?
>
> I'm not sure you'll find any for Sudan... telecoms is still heavily state
> regulated. While there are a few VSPs in Sudan I don't think they have
> too
> many links to the PSTN. I got the impression much backhaul was still
> analogue telecoms over copper pairs, though there's been a fair ADSL
> rollout
> recently (in Khartoum anyway) so this might have changed.
>
> Here's the statistics of companies active in Sudanese telecoms:
> http://www.ntc.org.sd/index.php?page...ng=eng&pid=153
> Not a lot as you can see...
>
> If you do find anything I'd be most interested. Out of interest do you
> have
> any recommendations for VOIP providers to call the Sudanese PSTN? I have
> a
> few UK dialthrough numbers which work, but they're low on capacity and
> many
> others have quality issues (current favourite is 0871 999 1414 which is
> good
> quality but it runs out of capacity in the late afternoon GMT).
>
> Theo

I was just curious not really my problem someone I know, has relatives in
Sudan.
www.moneysavingexpert.co.uk/callchecker has a good list of dialthrough
numbers

Stephen Hammond <Stephen@haclothesmmond.st> wrote:
> I was just curious not really my problem someone I know, has relatives in
> Sudan. www.moneysavingexpert.co.uk/callchecker has a good list of
> dialthrough numbers

Unfortunately many companies advertise all worldwide destinations, but they
buy their PSTN connections in bulk from a third party. So there's no
indication from the list who it's actually being terminated through. Many,
many dialthrough numbers have quality problems - once I started at the top
of one such list trying every number and got to the bottom without getting a
decent connection. BT, on the other hand, at 82p/min was crystal clear and
got through every time. Things have improved recently, and at least the
advantage of dialthroughs is you can try them for little outlay. The same
isn't true of VOIP because the 'free trial' calls are usually those to
destinations where there are no quality problems!

I've just been trying voipcheap.com for Sudan - two poor then dropped
connections, and then the third got through and was acceptable (to a Mobitel
mobile). That's not really good enough so I'm still looking for a decent
VSP...

Theo

> Unfortunately many companies advertise all worldwide destinations, but
> they
> buy their PSTN connections in bulk from a third party. So there's no
> indication from the list who it's actually being terminated through.
> Many,
> many dialthrough numbers have quality problems - once I started at the top
> of one such list trying every number and got to the bottom without getting
> a
> decent connection. BT, on the other hand, at 82p/min was crystal clear
> and
> got through every time. Things have improved recently, and at least the
> advantage of dialthroughs is you can try them for little outlay. The same
> isn't true of VOIP because the 'free trial' calls are usually those to
> destinations where there are no quality problems!
>
> I've just been trying voipcheap.com for Sudan - two poor then dropped
> connections, and then the third got through and was acceptable (to a
> Mobitel
> mobile). That's not really good enough so I'm still looking for a decent
> VSP...
>
> Theo

www.moneysavingexpert.com/callchecker

"Theo Markettos" <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote
in message news:lfo*EQ8Yr@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk

[snip]

: : I've just been trying voipcheap.com for Sudan - two
: : poor then dropped connections, and then the third got
: : through and was acceptable (to a Mobitel mobile).
: : That's not really good enough so I'm still looking for
: : a decent VSP...
: :
: : Theo

Sipgate quote 20.8p/min for Sudan, both landline and mobile. Not knowing
anyone there, I've got no way of knowing whether it's any good or not, but
it's a lot cheaper than 82p/min..!

Ivor

On 11 4 , 10 36 , "Stephen Hammond" <Step...@haclothesmmond.st>
wrote:
> Where can I find
> cheap voip in numbers for South Africa and Sudan ?
>
> Stephen

Hi,

Sorry that dont find anyone in Sudan. But I have a cooperation partner
in South Africa. Vox Telecom are an agrregator of Voice minutes within
South Africa.
Here are their business websites:

www.voxtelecom.co.za

www.voxcorporate.co.za

www.oriontele.com

www.datapro.co.za

www.vox.co.za

Gary Morgan

Business Development Executive

Vox Telecom

2nd Floor, Colinton House,

The Oval, 1 Oakdale Rd,

Newlands

Tel: 087 805 0001

Direct: 087 805 3031

Mobile: 082 900 4815

Fax: 086 502 7158

Email: garym@voxtelecom.co.za

Web: www.voxtelecom.co.za
================================================== ==
Hope above will help u figure out.

Leon

leon@telecomchinasourcing.com

Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
> Sipgate quote 20.8p/min for Sudan, both landline and mobile. Not knowing
> anyone there, I've got no way of knowing whether it's any good or not, but
> it's a lot cheaper than 82p/min..!

That indeed is the problem - unfortunately 'expensive' doesn't mean 'good'.
I was quite interested in voiptalk.org's Gold service - about 28p/min but
they claim a 'business quality' connection. But there's still no guarantee
it'll be any better as Sudan is hardly a popular destination. But even BT
beats the state telecom operator's outgoing call rate of US$7/min...

Someone from this group has offered me a few trial calls with Magrathea (as
used by Gradwell, Sipgate, etc) to test out his system so (if he's happy for
me to do so) I'll report back how I get on.

Theo

Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

>Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>> Sipgate quote 20.8p/min for Sudan, both landline and mobile. Not knowing
>> anyone there, I've got no way of knowing whether it's any good or not, but
>> it's a lot cheaper than 82p/min..!
>
>That indeed is the problem - unfortunately 'expensive' doesn't mean 'good'.
>I was quite interested in voiptalk.org's Gold service - about 28p/min but
>they claim a 'business quality' connection. But there's still no guarantee
>it'll be any better as Sudan is hardly a popular destination. But even BT
>beats the state telecom operator's outgoing call rate of US$7/min...
>
>Someone from this group has offered me a few trial calls with Magrathea (as
>used by Gradwell, Sipgate, etc) to test out his system so (if he's happy for
>me to do so) I'll report back how I get on.

We have different packages for different customers. Some of our customers take
our 'gold' routed service, and the vast majority of these calls are carried for
us by BT, so if you can find one that repackages this service then you'll get
the same as BT offers.

Linus

(We have a retail callthrough service that works on this routing service if you
are interested - try www.it-always-works.com)

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Linus Surguy <usenet@linus.me.uk> wrote:
> We have different packages for different customers. Some of our customers
> take our 'gold' routed service, and the vast majority of these calls are
> carried for us by BT, so if you can find one that repackages this service
> then you'll get the same as BT offers.
>
> (We have a retail callthrough service that works on this routing service
> if you are interested - try www.it-always-works.com)

Thanks - that's very useful to know. Do you have just the two levels of
routing (as implied by http://www.magrathea-telecom.co.uk/termination.htm),
or are there more options that can be selected by the customer?

Is it right that callthrough.co.uk is based on the 'standard' routing
service?

Theo

Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

>Linus Surguy <usenet@linus.me.uk> wrote:
>> We have different packages for different customers. Some of our customers
>> take our 'gold' routed service, and the vast majority of these calls are
>> carried for us by BT, so if you can find one that repackages this service
>> then you'll get the same as BT offers.
>>
>> (We have a retail callthrough service that works on this routing service
>> if you are interested - try www.it-always-works.com)
>
>Thanks - that's very useful to know. Do you have just the two levels of
>routing (as implied by http://www.magrathea-telecom.co.uk/termination.htm),
>or are there more options that can be selected by the customer?

We can always be flexible depending on requirement.

>Is it right that callthrough.co.uk is based on the 'standard' routing
>service?

Yes.

Linus


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