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Old 09-27-2005, 01:51 PM
Mark Carver
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Default Dialing via VoipCheap

I'm new to this, so please be gentle !

I'm looking at getting a Voip router, and joining a service.

I notice on the Voipcheap website, it talks about all calls (even 'local')
having to be prefixed with 00 <Country Code> <Area Code> etc.

Bottom of this page:-
http://www.voipcheap.co.uk/en/instructions.html

Do any routers allow automatic prefix insertion (akin to the Orchid dialler
used for ordinary PSTN calls) ?

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Old 09-27-2005, 02:06 PM
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"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in
message news:3pt12aFbts4sU1@individual.net
> I'm new to this, so please be gentle !
>
> I'm looking at getting a Voip router, and joining a
> service.


Do you mean an ATA (Analogue Telephone Adaptor) to plug into an existing
router, or a combined device which has a modem, router and phone ports all
in one..?

> I notice on the Voipcheap website, it talks about all
> calls (even 'local') having to be prefixed with 00
> <Country Code> <Area Code> etc.
> Bottom of this page:-
> http://www.voipcheap.co.uk/en/instructions.html


That's interesting, I've not come across that with a UK provider before.

> Do any routers allow automatic prefix insertion (akin to
> the Orchid dialler used for ordinary PSTN calls) ?


Yes, you can set up dialling rules on some ATA's like the Sipura range.
Although maybe better to choose a provider that lets you dial numbers
normally..?!

Ivor



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Old 09-27-2005, 02:13 PM
peter
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Default Re: Dialing via VoipCheap

Like Ivor says, many ATA (or ATA-routers) allow setting dialling plans,
that automatically sort out prefix stuff and like. However, try to
search through this group for "Voipcheap". As far as I know, no-one has
succeeded in accessing their service from an ata, but only through
their soft-client.


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Old 09-27-2005, 02:36 PM
Mark Carver
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Default Re: Dialing via VoipCheap

Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in
> message news:3pt12aFbts4sU1@individual.net
>
>>I'm new to this, so please be gentle !
>>
>>I'm looking at getting a Voip router, and joining a
>>service.

>
>
> Do you mean an ATA (Analogue Telephone Adaptor) to plug into an existing
> router, or a combined device which has a modem, router and phone ports all
> in one..?


Sorry yes, ATA

>
>>I notice on the Voipcheap website, it talks about all
>>calls (even 'local') having to be prefixed with 00
>><Country Code> <Area Code> etc.
>>Bottom of this page:-
>>http://www.voipcheap.co.uk/en/instructions.html

>
>
> That's interesting, I've not come across that with a UK provider before.
>
>
>>Do any routers allow automatic prefix insertion (akin to
>>the Orchid dialler used for ordinary PSTN calls) ?

>
>
> Yes, you can set up dialling rules on some ATA's like the Sipura range.
> Although maybe better to choose a provider that lets you dial numbers
> normally..?!


Yes good point, though my main use would be UK landline, and Netherlands calls,
both of which are free (for the moment) with Voipcheap.


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Old 09-27-2005, 02:39 PM
Mark Carver
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peter wrote:
> Like Ivor says, many ATA (or ATA-routers) allow setting dialling plans,
> that automatically sort out prefix stuff and like. However, try to
> search through this group for "Voipcheap". As far as I know, no-one has
> succeeded in accessing their service from an ata, but only through
> their soft-client.


Ah ! Thanks to you and Ivor for the responses, lots for me to learn still.

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Old 09-27-2005, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: Dialing via VoipCheap

In message of Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Mark Carver writes
>I'm new to this, so please be gentle !
>
>I'm looking at getting a Voip router, and joining a service.
>
>I notice on the Voipcheap website, it talks about all calls (even
>'local') having to be prefixed with 00 <Country Code> <Area Code> etc.
>


If you're thinking of using an ATA with Voipcheap - don't - they don't
support SIP, use VoIPBuster instead (Their sister company) who do
support SIP.

>Bottom of this page:-
>http://www.voipcheap.co.uk/en/instructions.html
>
>Do any routers allow automatic prefix insertion (akin to the Orchid
>dialler used for ordinary PSTN calls) ?
>


Yes Sipura ATAs (and probably others) allow dial plans where you can
prefix 0044 and for local calls you can prefix the local area code as
well. Eg for me in Bristol where local numbers begin with 3 or 9 you can
add 0044117 to any number dialled beginning with 3 or 9.

David

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Old 10-01-2005, 08:22 AM
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Default Re: Dialing via VoipCheap

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:40:19 +0100, David Floyd <david@floyd.org.uk>
wrote:


>
>Yes Sipura ATAs (and probably others) allow dial plans where you can
>prefix 0044 and for local calls you can prefix the local area code as
>well. Eg for me in Bristol where local numbers begin with 3 or 9 you can
>add 0044117 to any number dialled beginning with 3 or 9.
>
>David


Where do you get the info on how to configure this dial plan - Can you
post a copy of yours Please? TIA!
-- ras

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Old 10-01-2005, 09:14 PM
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In message of Sat, 1 Oct 2005, ras writes
>On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:40:19 +0100, David Floyd <david@floyd.org.uk>
>wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Yes Sipura ATAs (and probably others) allow dial plans where you can
>>prefix 0044 and for local calls you can prefix the local area code as
>>well. Eg for me in Bristol where local numbers begin with 3 or 9 you can
>>add 0044117 to any number dialled beginning with 3 or 9.
>>
>>David

>
>Where do you get the info on how to configure this dial plan - Can you
>post a copy of yours Please? TIA!
>-- ras


You have your answer in the other thread you've started "Dial Plan -
PAP2?"



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Old 10-02-2005, 07:28 AM
ras
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On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 22:14:16 +0100, David Floyd <david@floyd.org.uk>
wrote:

>In message of Sat, 1 Oct 2005, ras writes


>>Where do you get the info on how to configure this dial plan - Can you
>>post a copy of yours Please? TIA!
>>-- ras

>
>You have your answer in the other thread you've started "Dial Plan -
>PAP2?"
>

Yes, I have & it works!
Anyway, Thanks for responding David
-- ras

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Old 11-06-2005, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: Dialing via VoipCheap

In article <3pt1veFc08iqU1@individual.net>, Ivor Jones
<ivor@despammed.invalid> writes
>
>
>"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>news:3pt12aFbts4sU1@individual.net
>
>> I notice on the Voipcheap website, it talks about all
>> calls (even 'local') having to be prefixed with 00
>> <Country Code> <Area Code> etc.
>> Bottom of this page:-
>> http://www.voipcheap.co.uk/en/instructions.html

>
>That's interesting, I've not come across that with a UK provider
>before.
>

Update to this.

I've just dialled a national number - no longer met with a request for
the country code. Must have been the new update. The contacts' list
still required the country code (presumably so you get it right when
abroad).
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