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Old 02-28-2007, 03:55 AM
Mark BR
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Default Fax over VoIP

I know it is old technology but,

Is it possible to find software that can send/receive a fax over VoIP - I
assume it is technically possible and all one has to do is find the correct
software.

Mark BR



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Old 02-28-2007, 06:13 AM
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Default Re: Fax over VoIP

Mark BR wrote:
> I know it is old technology but,
>
> Is it possible to find software that can send/receive a fax over VoIP - I
> assume it is technically possible and all one has to do is find the correct
> software.


http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-FoIP


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Jon


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Old 02-28-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Fax over VoIP

Jon Farmer wrote:
> Mark BR wrote:
>> I know it is old technology but,
>>
>> Is it possible to find software that can send/receive a fax over
>> VoIP - I assume it is technically possible and all one has to do is
>> find the correct software.

>
> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-FoIP
>
>
> Regards
>
> Jon


So the answer is no, you can't

Thanks

Mark BR




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Old 02-28-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: Fax over VoIP

Mark BR wrote:
> So the answer is no, you can't


Yes you can, but it requires careful doing.

Tim

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Old 02-28-2007, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: Fax over VoIP

"Tim" <nutnews@kooky.org> wrote in message
news:45e57177$0$759$bed64819@news.gradwell.net...
> Mark BR wrote:
>> So the answer is no, you can't

>
> Yes you can, but it requires careful doing.
>
> Tim


I use voipcheap for sending occasional faxes with a Fritzbox. I have not
changed any settings to accomodate fax.

HOWEVER, expect it to take multiple attempts and a lot longer than you would
expect. I find it OK for faxes every now and again but nothing more. There
is a previous thread in the group about Vonage's "dedicated" FoIP service,
but it doesn't sound like it's any different to my setup. I think they call
this emerging technology, but converting data to analogue audio to IP
packets and then back again sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.



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Old 03-05-2007, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: Fax over VoIP

"Herman" <whitehousemadhouse-2005@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:GXmFh.29806$OK6.20184@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> "Tim" <nutnews@kooky.org> wrote in message
> news:45e57177$0$759$bed64819@news.gradwell.net...
>> Mark BR wrote:
>>> So the answer is no, you can't

>>
>> Yes you can, but it requires careful doing.
>>
>> Tim

>
> I use voipcheap for sending occasional faxes with a Fritzbox. I have not
> changed any settings to accomodate fax.
>
> HOWEVER, expect it to take multiple attempts and a lot longer than you
> would expect. I find it OK for faxes every now and again but nothing
> more. There is a previous thread in the group about Vonage's "dedicated"
> FoIP service, but it doesn't sound like it's any different to my setup. I
> think they call this emerging technology, but converting data to analogue
> audio to IP packets and then back again sounds like a recipe for disaster
> to me.
>


Someone just needs to write software that emulates a fax modem and then
simply connects to a SIP provider to make the call and send the fax.



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Old 03-05-2007, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: Fax over VoIP

ts86 wrote:
>>

>
> Someone just needs to write software that emulates a fax modem and then
> simply connects to a SIP provider to make the call and send the fax.
>
>


More like someone needs to write a working t.38 implementation for
Asterisk. Software that emulates a fax modem and then sends the data
over an IP connection using SIP will just run into all the same problems
an ATA with a fax machine plugged into it using g.711 codec currently
does. The problem is a fax transmission relies on near-perfect timing
at either end which is fine with analogue phone lines or ISDN. But IP
(and therefore the Internet) is a best-effort service which was designed
from the ground up with little or no consideration to synchronised
timing at both ends of a connection.

cheers,
Paul.

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