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Old 09-13-2005, 01:48 PM
robert
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Default free calling to US and EU

hi all, what's the best VoIP provider for calling Europe (including
mobiles)?

I'm looking for a flat rate plan.

thanks
robert


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Old 09-13-2005, 01:56 PM
robert
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Default Re: free calling to US and EU

it's not the best, since i was looking for a flat rate plan. (e.g. 30
£ per month, but all the calls are included).

thanks anyway.

robert


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Old 09-13-2005, 01:58 PM
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www.vonage.co.uk


simply the best



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Old 09-13-2005, 01:59 PM
robert
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Default Re: free calling to US and EU

thanks, i cecked it out, but i was looking for a flat rate plan which
may covers also mobiles.

the only one i found, is telextreme (www.telextreme.com = $ 99.95
includes landline and mobile calls to more than 40 countries).

thanks a lot
robert


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Old 09-13-2005, 02:21 PM
StudMuffin
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Default Re: free calling to US and EU

what do you expect people will insist on using these so called cheaper
providers and even FREE one such as sipgate, but you get what you pay for
dont you.

SIPGATE = CRAP SERVICE

VONAGE= TOP NOTCH SERVICE



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Old 09-13-2005, 02:37 PM
paul ockenden
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Default Re: free calling to US and EU

> SIPGATE = CRAP SERVICE
>
> VONAGE= TOP NOTCH SERVICE


So you've said...

.... and said

.... and said

.... and said

.... and said

.... and said

.... and said

.... and said

.... and said

.... and said

To the point where I'm now getting sick of Vonage despite never having tried
it!!!

You're doing a great job of creating some good negative feelings towards
them!

Ah - I'm starting to get the hang of this newsgroup: I know, you're an
employee of
one of Vonage's competitors aren't you .... ;-)

P.



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Old 09-13-2005, 02:44 PM
StudMuffin
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"ockenden do be quiet for a journalist you are full of it, and what sort of
journalist has the time to be on newsgroups all day long, none of the many
that i personally know seem to do, fact is vonage ar ethe best.

PS Be a good boy and go and write one of your dreamed up articles for your
dreamed up vocation.

good boy :-)



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Old 09-13-2005, 02:48 PM
StudMuffin
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well pauly sweetness lets see if youre as good a journo as you make out
sexy, see what you can dig up although i might add that you should also
check out Ivor Jones's link with sipgate.



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Old 09-13-2005, 02:48 PM
paul ockenden
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> ... what sort of journalist has the time to be on newsgroups
> all day long


A part time one. I also have a business to run.

> fact is vonage ar ethe best.


Lol! You really are working for the competition aren't you!

P.



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Old 09-13-2005, 02:49 PM
StudMuffin
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so youre a journo and now you have your own business hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

the story deepens or is your mind working overtime in terms of the fairy
stories you have to think up huh

PMSL



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Old 09-13-2005, 03:26 PM
paul ockenden
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> so youre a journo and now you have your own business hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>
> the story deepens or is your mind working overtime in terms of the fairy
> stories you have to think up huh


Well, I could point you in the direction of Google, but you'd probably post
an
endless stream of messages saying that Google is crap and that Alta Vista is
the best ....

P.



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Old 09-13-2005, 04:36 PM
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Thus spaketh StudMuffin:
> "ockenden do be quiet for a journalist you are full of it, and what
> sort of journalist has the time to be on newsgroups all day long,
> none of the many that i personally know seem to do, fact is vonage ar
> ethe best.
> PS Be a good boy and go and write one of your dreamed up articles for
> your dreamed up vocation.
>
> good boy :-)


I wouldn't call Vonagae the best, it's more exspensive than calls over my
landline.



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Old 09-13-2005, 05:30 PM
Steven Sumpter
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StudMuffin wrote:
> so youre a journo and now you have your own business hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>
> the story deepens or is your mind working overtime in terms of the fairy
> stories you have to think up huh


You can easily check, just buy a copy of PC Pro. What Paul does is
listed right there at the bottom of his column.

Steve.

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Old 09-13-2005, 06:18 PM
Ivor Jones
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"paul ockenden" <paul@ockenden.nospamplease.com> wrote in
message
news:ibednZ2dnZ3MP4qCnZ2dnUh7u96dnZ2dRVnyop2dnZ0@p ipex.net
> > ... what sort of journalist has the time to be on
> > newsgroups all day long

>
> A part time one. I also have a business to run.
>
> > fact is vonage ar ethe best.

>
> Lol! You really are working for the competition aren't
> you!
> P.


No chance, they wouldn't employ him.

Ivor



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Old 09-13-2005, 08:34 PM
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You dont know anything abou me ivor or what i do, youd be surprised how good
my sirriculum vitae is, all fully verifiable, have you got ful airside
clearance, do you have a full enhanced crb thats clear , do you have full
top MOD clearance to enter nuclear sites in the uk, i very much doubt it,
You see ivor you know nothing about me or what i do so do be a good boy and
dont preach



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Old 09-13-2005, 08:37 PM
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"StudMuffin" <big9.5inches@comeandsee.net> wrote in message
news:OJGVe.1042$hQ4.457@newsfe4-win.ntli.net
> You dont know anything abou me ivor or what i do


Ivor not ivor.



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Old 09-13-2005, 10:07 PM
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Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

> "StudMuffin" <big9.5inches@comeandsee.net> wrote in message
> news:OJGVe.1042$hQ4.457@newsfe4-win.ntli.net
> > You dont know anything abou me ivor or what i do


Please don't feed the troll. If you quote what he writes you render my
filter useless.

cheers
Heimo

--
l'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.

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Old 09-13-2005, 10:30 PM
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robert wrote:
> hi all, what's the best VoIP provider for calling Europe (including
> mobiles)?
>
> I'm looking for a flat rate plan.


I think that you'd be lucky to find such a plan. The expectation, if you
are asking for such a product is that you expect your normal monthly
usage to exceed the cost of the calls if you were charged per-call, and
probably exceed to the cost to the company to provide you with the service.

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Old 09-13-2005, 10:31 PM
Paul Cupis
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StudMuffin wrote:
> what do you expect people will insist on using these so called cheaper
> providers and even FREE one such as sipgate, but you get what you pay for
> dont you.
>
> SIPGATE = CRAP SERVICE
>
> VONAGE= TOP NOTCH SERVICE


Thanks for that, but not really relevant to the thread or the OPs question.

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Old 09-15-2005, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: free calling to US and EU


<brown@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:olfji1tabm6vop9onmo42akrbqoj0d8e4p@4ax.com...

that post was posted days ago , where did you spring up from, have you just
risen from your cave or something?



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Old 09-16-2005, 08:16 PM
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<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 13 Sep 2005 06:59:03 -0700, "robert" <european.projects@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >thanks, i cecked it out, but i was looking for a flat rate plan which
> >may covers also mobiles.
> >
> >the only one i found, is telextreme (www.telextreme.com = $ 99.95
> >includes landline and mobile calls to more than 40 countries).

> Well Robert if this is the correct URL for them that you posted it
> don't work which dosen't say much for their service now does it .


The link works for me OK
Roman



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Old 10-08-2005, 07:36 PM
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:34:54 GMT, "StudMuffin"
<big9.5inches@comeandsee.net> wrote:

>
>You dont know anything abou me ivor or what i do, youd be surprised how good
>my sirriculum vitae is, all fully verifiable, have you got ful airside
>clearance, do you have a full enhanced crb thats clear , do you have full
>top MOD clearance to enter nuclear sites in the uk, i very much doubt it,
>You see ivor you know nothing about me or what i do so do be a good boy and
>dont preach
>

Bye Stefan, PLONK!

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