We are able to supply our customers with the following UK DDI/DIDs'
free of charge and no setup fee, numbers are available in both blocks
of 10 to 100 and also single numbers for end users.
Prefix:
* 0870
* 0871
* 0845
* 0844
* 070
All numbers are routable internationally (i.e: +44870XXXXXXX), and can
be terminated to VoIP via SIP or terminated to the PSTN depending on
termination point.
UK Geographical such as London 020 or Manchester 0161 are also
available for a small fee.
<melonite@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Free UK Telephone Numbers DDI / DID
>
> We are able to supply our customers with the following UK DDI/DIDs'
> free of charge and no setup fee, numbers are available in both blocks
> of 10 to 100 and also single numbers for end users.
>
> Prefix:
>
> * 0870
> * 0871
> * 0845
> * 0844
> * 070
>
> All numbers are routable internationally (i.e: +44870XXXXXXX), and can
> be terminated to VoIP via SIP or terminated to the PSTN depending on
> termination point.
>
> UK Geographical such as London 020 or Manchester 0161 are also
> available for a small fee.
>
I think everyone offers this! What ar your charges for 020 and 0161 nos?
Are you able to provide a chosen/choice of numbers?
02 and 01 numbers are available, the price varies depending on how many
you require.
But a guide price, £200 incl VAT and setup per year for 25
geographical number such as 01/02
plus it includes access into our system to enable yourself to manage
and control the numbers termination points and request other changes to
be made.
Yaz wrote:
> I think everyone offers this! What ar your charges for 020 and 0161 nos?
>
> Are you able to provide a chosen/choice of numbers?
>
> Yaz
> But a guide price, £200 incl VAT and setup per year for 25
> geographical number such as 01/02
> plus it includes access into our system to enable yourself to manage
> and control the numbers termination points and request other
> changes to be made.
Some may dispute your assertion that that is a "small" fee!
That is for 25 numbers per year, if you want more than 25 numbers the
prices of course will increase, although if your requirements are for
100+ numbers then the price can be fully negotiated.
For £5.00 GBP you can have 1 geographical number per year. (Random
number supplied from the requested area/dialling code)
If ordering a block of numbers, the numbers are supplied in sequential
order for the requested telephone area code(s)
01 and 02 Numbers can only be terminated to VoIP (SIP/IAX2/H.323)
I think people will agree that £5.00 per year for a UK Geographical
number is a small and modest fee to be free to use any VoIP Provider
you like, not tied to one with the number, you get full control over
the number so that you can change where the number is terminated using
our control panel.
ale.cx wrote:
> Some may dispute your assertion that that is a "small" fee!
>
> alexd
<N.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 22 Dec 2006 03:50:10 -0800, "ale.cx"
> <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On 22 Dec, 11:43, melon...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > But a guide price, £200 incl VAT and setup per year
> > > for 25 geographical number such as 01/02
> > > plus it includes access into our system to enable
> > > yourself to manage and control the numbers
> > > termination points and request other changes to be
> > > made.
> >
> > Some may dispute your assertion that that is a "small"
> > fee!
> >
> > alexd
> And some may resort to complaining about advertising in
> this group are you there Ivor !!!!! .
Back in your box, Ron. That wasn't advertising, it was an answer to a
question asked.
I don't think many will take him up at that price, do you..?
> For £5.00 GBP you can have 1 geographical number per year. (Random
> number supplied from the requested area/dialling code)
Don't forget you're competing with the likes of Sipgate, who will give
anyone a UK geographic number for free. Obviously, free is a lot
cheaper than a fiver, even if a fiver is a pretty nominal fee.
> If ordering a block of numbers, the numbers are supplied in sequential
> order for the requested telephone area code(s)
>
> 01 and 02 Numbers can only be terminated to VoIP (SIP/IAX2/H.323)
>
> I think people will agree that £5.00 per year for a UK Geographical
> number is a small and modest fee
Yes, a fiver is a small amount of money nowadays. But one can get a
free number from other providers, or deposit [say] a tenner of credit
with a provider, and spend that credit on calls.
> to be free to use any VoIP Provider you like, not tied to one with the number,
> you get full control over the number so that you can change where the number
> is terminated using our control panel.
How does getting a number from a provider tie you into them? I've got a
Sipgate number I use for inbound calls [because I've had it for 18
months, and it's vaguely memorable], and I've got a voip.co.uk account
I use for outbound calls because they're cheap. I can have many free
accounts from many providers, and I won't ever be tied in to any of
them. I guess I'm just not seeing the unique selling point of your
offering. Perhaps there isn't one?
You are correct in stating that providers such as Sipgate offer a
"free" number when you sign up with them, but that number can only
be terminated at your Sipgate account, not any other, so it means you
have to remain with a Sipgate account in order to keep the same number,
basically, leave sipgate and leave the number.
With the service we offer, you're able to choose which provider you
wish to use, and you can terminate the number to any VoIP Destination,
thus not tied to one provider in order to keep the inbound number. So
for example if you have a "free" number from the likes of Sipgate
or any other provider, if that ITSP goes down you would be unable to
receive any inbound calls on your PSTN number.
Example: You have a "free" SIP account and PSTN number from
"Snake Oil VoIP" and that ITSP goes down, you'd not be able to
receive any calls on your inbound PSTN number because the provider is
down. But if you had a number from us that was terminating at your sip
address with "Snake Oil VoIP" you are able to login at our control
panel and change the destination instantly (as changes are real time)
of the number to another VoIP account to ensure your able to receive
calls.
melonite@gmail.com has brought this to us :
> You are correct in stating that providers such as Sipgate offer a
> "free" number when you sign up with them, but that number can only
> be terminated at your Sipgate account, not any other, so it means you
> have to remain with a Sipgate account in order to keep the same number,
> basically, leave sipgate and leave the number.
>
> With the service we offer, you're able to choose which provider you
> wish to use, and you can terminate the number to any VoIP Destination,
> thus not tied to one provider in order to keep the inbound number. So
> for example if you have a "free" number from the likes of Sipgate
> or any other provider, if that ITSP goes down you would be unable to
> receive any inbound calls on your PSTN number.
>
> Example: You have a "free" SIP account and PSTN number from
> "Snake Oil VoIP" and that ITSP goes down, you'd not be able to
> receive any calls on your inbound PSTN number because the provider is
> down. But if you had a number from us that was terminating at your sip
> address with "Snake Oil VoIP" you are able to login at our control
> panel and change the destination instantly (as changes are real time)
> of the number to another VoIP account to ensure your able to receive
> calls.
But surely, your service would tie me to you? So what's the advantage?
> You are correct in stating that providers such as Sipgate offer a
> "free" number when you sign up with them, but that number can only
> be terminated at your Sipgate account, not any other, so it means you
> have to remain with a Sipgate account in order to keep the same number,
> basically, leave sipgate and leave the number.
Not entirely true. We have limited number portability at the moment,
and I reckon 100% portability will be with us before long.
> Example: You have a "free" SIP account and PSTN number from
> "Snake Oil VoIP" and that ITSP goes down, you'd not be able to
> receive any calls on your inbound PSTN number because the provider is
> down. But if you had a number from us that was terminating at your sip
> address with "Snake Oil VoIP" you are able to login at our control
> panel and change the destination instantly (as changes are real time)
> of the number to another VoIP account to ensure your able to receive
> calls.
I'm still not getting it. What if your systems go down? What happens to
my calls then? How is being tied to you different to being tied to any
other provider?
> But surely, your service would tie me to you? So what's the advantage?
Yes it would tie you to ourselves as a customer, we offer a 99% SLA
that numbers we supply are reachable from the PSTN both domestic and
international networks at all times.
And of course your free to use any VoIP/ITSP you want, swap and change
as many times as you like, without losing the number, somewhat like
number porting, simply use our control panel and make the change, and
within a matter of seconds the number is updated to your new
destination.
In message of Sat, 23 Dec 2006, writes
>You are correct in stating that providers such as Sipgate offer a
>"free" number when you sign up with them, but that number can only
>be terminated at your Sipgate account, not any other, so it means you
>have to remain with a Sipgate account in order to keep the same number,
>basically, leave sipgate and leave the number.
>
>With the service we offer, you're able to choose which provider you
>wish to use, and you can terminate the number to any VoIP Destination,
>thus not tied to one provider in order to keep the inbound number. So
>for example if you have a "free" number from the likes of Sipgate
>or any other provider, if that ITSP goes down you would be unable to
>receive any inbound calls on your PSTN number.
>
>Example: You have a "free" SIP account and PSTN number from
>"Snake Oil VoIP" and that ITSP goes down, you'd not be able to
>receive any calls on your inbound PSTN number because the provider is
>down. But if you had a number from us that was terminating at your sip
>address with "Snake Oil VoIP" you are able to login at our control
>panel and change the destination instantly (as changes are real time)
>of the number to another VoIP account to ensure your able to receive
>calls.
>
>that number can only
>be terminated at your Sipgate account, not any other, so it means you
>have to remain with a Sipgate account in order to keep the same number,
>basically, leave sipgate and leave the number.
Yeas and no. It costs nothing to have from Sipgate, and you can
receive calls through it whoever you use to make calls.
I can't see any advantage in your offering over Sipgate's.
>That is for 25 numbers per year, if you want more than 25 numbers the
>prices of course will increase,
So it is £5 for one number, £200 for 25. Seems a very strange sort of
idea. I'd expect them to get cheaper, not more expensive, as you buy
in quantity.
hairydog@despammed.com wrote:
> So it is £5 for one number, £200 for 25. Seems a very strange sort of
> idea. I'd expect them to get cheaper, not more expensive, as you buy
> in quantity.
£5 p/a incl VAT for a single *RANDOM* number from the area code
requested.
£200 p/a incl VAT for a block of 25 *SEQUENTIAL* numbers from the area
code requested.
If you look at some providers who charge anything from £1.99 a month
for the number to others charging £25.00 Excluding V.A.T. for just 1
random number, big difference don't you think?
hairydog@despammed.com wrote:
> Yeas and no. It costs nothing to have from Sipgate, and you can
> receive calls through it whoever you use to make calls.
>
> I can't see any advantage in your offering over Sipgate's.
Yes you can receive calls on your sipgate number regardless of who you
use to make the outbound call, however if sipgate goes down then you
don't receive any calls, have you read the previous posts in this forum?
<melonite@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> hairydog@despammed.com wrote:
> > Yeas and no. It costs nothing to have from Sipgate, and
> > you can receive calls through it whoever you use to
> > make calls.
> >
> > I can't see any advantage in your offering over
> > Sipgate's.
>
> Yes you can receive calls on your sipgate number
> regardless of who you use to make the outbound call,
> however if sipgate goes down then you don't receive any
> calls, have you read the previous posts in this forum?
And if you go down, I still can't receive any calls.
I'll stick with Sipgate, thanks.
<pedant>
BTW this is a newsgroup, not a forum, there are distinct differences.
</pedant>
melonite@gmail.com wrote:
> hairydog@despammed.com wrote:
>> So it is £5 for one number, £200 for 25. Seems a very strange sort of
>> idea. I'd expect them to get cheaper, not more expensive, as you buy
>> in quantity.
>
> £5 p/a incl VAT for a single *RANDOM* number from the area code
> requested.
> £200 p/a incl VAT for a block of 25 *SEQUENTIAL* numbers from the area
> code requested.
>
> If you look at some providers who charge anything from £1.99 a month
> for the number to others charging £25.00 Excluding V.A.T. for just 1
> random number, big difference don't you think?
>
Voipfone will allocate numbers for £1.69 per month per number, and
blocks of numbers for an additional £1 per number one off setup fee.
Some people may prefer your offer of course, thats fine.
As alex has said, porting between providers avaiablity is becoming
increased, so people can move easily. Are 'you' a member of ITSPA? Does
this company providing these numbers have a website?
If i were to use on of your numbers with sipgate, how do i have this
number set as outbound caller ID? some providers do allow you to set
your CLI to a number not on your account, but not all.
> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > <pedant>
> > BTW this is a newsgroup, not a forum, there are distinct differences.
> > </pedant>
>
> That horse is dead. A newsgroup is a forum. Not all forums are newsgroups.
"ale.cx" <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Paul Cupis wrote:
>
> > Ivor Jones wrote:
> > > <pedant>
> > > BTW this is a newsgroup, not a forum, there are
> > > distinct differences. </pedant>
> >
> > That horse is dead. A newsgroup is a forum.
"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > <pedant>
> > BTW this is a newsgroup, not a forum, there are
> > distinct differences. </pedant>
>
> That horse is dead. A newsgroup is a forum. Not all
> forums are newsgroups.
<N.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 24 Dec 2006 18:35:19 +0000, Paul Cupis
> <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Ivor Jones wrote:
> > > <pedant>
> > > BTW this is a newsgroup, not a forum, there are
> > > distinct differences. </pedant>
> >
> > That horse is dead. A newsgroup is a forum. Not all
> > forums are newsgroups.
>
> Forget it Paul Ivor insists he is NOT a European but he
> is of course just like you and I .
Despite you having insulted a friend of mine whose boots you are not fit
to lick, I refuse to be annoyed by you over the festive season, Ron.
Mr Man wrote:
>
> Voipfone will allocate numbers for £1.69 per month per number, and
> blocks of numbers for an additional £1 per number one off setup fee.
>
Do you mean to tell me, that with Voipfone, I can pay around £2/month
and with a one-off setup fee of around £10 have 10 incoming numbers?
(sequential). (In the same way you can with voip.co.uk for £2/number).
If my memory serves me right, with voipfone you can set them to
terminate at a static destination using either SIP or IAX2 too. (as is
the case of the original poster).
Sounds too good to be true, shame they don't support G.729.
Thomas Kenyon wrote:
> Do you mean to tell me, that with Voipfone, I can pay around £2/month
> and with a one-off setup fee of around £10 have 10 incoming numbers?
> (sequential). (In the same way you can with voip.co.uk for £2/number).
>
> If my memory serves me right, with voipfone you can set them to
> terminate at a static destination using either SIP or IAX2 too. (as is
> the case of the original poster).
>
> Sounds too good to be true, shame they don't support G.729.
It's £2 per number per month. So its £20 a month for 10 numbers (if
you're rounding up)
As you say, no support for G.729, but there is support for GSM.