FritzBox Fon 7140 problem with modems

About a month ago I bought a FritzBox 7140 and retired my Vonage
service. The box is great and has so many features.

I also have a TiVo which is connected to the BT phone line, and makes
daily calls to download data.

Yesterday I noticed that the TiVo hadn't dialed up for quite some time
as the tv guide data had run out. I tried doing a test call which failed
on the dialing phase. I then disconnected the phone jack from the
FritzBox (not the ADSL one, just the voice BT plug), and the TiVo
connected fine.

I re-plugged in the phone jack to the FritzBox, and plugged a normal
phone in the jack that the TiVo normally uses, and it seemed to work
fine for voice calls as I tried dialing numbers. However, for some
reason it seems to interfere with data calls.

With a long telephone extension cable, I tried connecting the TiVo
directly to one of the FritzBox Fon POTS ports, and much to my surprise
it worked!

Any ideas? If I have to, I'll leave the wiring this way as it is
preferable to having two sets of DECT phones, which I had to have when I
had the Vonage box, but it's not ideal as the TiVo is some distance from
the FritzBox.

"Mark Ingle" <markinglenospam@nospamfastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:1iduwk2.1hlep5dfg10uiN%markinglenospam@nospam fastmail.fm...
> About a month ago I bought a FritzBox 7140 and retired my Vonage
> service. The box is great and has so many features.
>
> I also have a TiVo which is connected to the BT phone line, and makes
> daily calls to download data.
>
> Yesterday I noticed that the TiVo hadn't dialed up for quite some time
> as the tv guide data had run out. I tried doing a test call which failed
> on the dialing phase. I then disconnected the phone jack from the
> FritzBox (not the ADSL one, just the voice BT plug), and the TiVo
> connected fine.
>
> I re-plugged in the phone jack to the FritzBox, and plugged a normal
> phone in the jack that the TiVo normally uses, and it seemed to work
> fine for voice calls as I tried dialing numbers. However, for some
> reason it seems to interfere with data calls.
>
> With a long telephone extension cable, I tried connecting the TiVo
> directly to one of the FritzBox Fon POTS ports, and much to my surprise
> it worked!
>
> Any ideas? If I have to, I'll leave the wiring this way as it is
> preferable to having two sets of DECT phones, which I had to have when I
> had the Vonage box, but it's not ideal as the TiVo is some distance from
> the FritzBox.

The first question that comes to mind, is the BT extension that goes to the
TiVo
filtered?
What outgoing provider(s) are you using on the FritzBox? as the data
calls seem to work via VoIP, (always a present surprise when that happens)
I would be inclined to neaten things up and gain the cost savings,
assuming the TiVo makes chargeable calls.

--
Graham

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In message <frkgpn$nt2$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Graham.
<me@privacy.com> writes
>>
>> I also have a TiVo which is connected to the BT phone line, and makes
>> daily calls to download data.
If you feel you are up to it technically why not convert your TiVO with
a Network Card and Digital Cache? There are hardware kits from some
people called Silicon Dust. There is ample assistance and software
available in the various TiVo Forums. You will need an old PC which you
can boot up in Linux to initially install the networking software. Not
difficult but you need to be technically competent.

Our two TiVos are connected to our in house network and simply make
their daily call direct to the TiVo computers through our Broadband
connection. No telephones or modems required. Very quick too.
--
Richard Anderton

Richard Anderton <richard@bonshaw.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> If you feel you are up to it technically why not convert your TiVO with
> a Network Card and Digital Cache?

Thanks for your message.

My TiVo has got a network card which I have had for years (not one with
a cache, I think it's just called TurboNet) but have had no success in
getting to work in the long term.

Rather offtopic for this ng, but anyway.... it's rather a long story,
I'm afraid!

The first attempt failed in getting the network bit to work.

Some months later, a friend who was so impressed with my TiVo got one
himself and his came with a working TurboNet so I bought a new hard
drive and did a clone which worked perfectly. The only thing which I
didn't pick up initially was that his TiVo was running 2.5.5a, and so
although the setup initially worked fine; it was downloading guide data
over the network and I could use TiVoWeb, the TiVo then wanted to
'update' the system, which mucked everything up, and eventually it ran
out of guide data. I had kept the previous drive so swapped that back.

Then someone in the TiVo forums suggested that I phone TiVo and get them
to phone customer services and tell them that I had the Teletext bug and
'upgrade' my system to 2.5.5a. Anyway, a couple of days later my TiVo
crashed in a bad way with GSOD. I thought this had happened in the
process of updating to 2.5.5a so I re-imaged my friend's TiVo drive and
then it worked but I had exactly the same problem as I did the last
time.

I checked with TiVo customer services who confirmed the request for the
2.5.5a upgrade had 'been sent to America', but for some reason it never
got actioned. In fact, the Tivo is still running the plain 2.5.5

As you can imagine, at this time I was thoroughly fed up with the whole
thing, and in fact I built an old computer and ran MythTV on it for a
while, but for various reasons I then decided to go back to the TiVo,
and someone on the forums let me download a fresh 2.5.5 image, which has
worked fine ever since, but after all that time and money wasted, I
think I'll just stick to something that works!

In actual fact the TiVos are pretty cheap on eBay now so I might treat
myself to another one which comes with the stuff I need!

In message <1ie0sj9.mi1cg51q7rwg2N%markinglenospam@nospamfast mail.fm>,
Mark Ingle <markinglenospam@nospamfastmail.fm> writes
>As you can imagine, at this time I was thoroughly fed up with the whole
>thing, and in fact I built an old computer and ran MythTV on it for a
>while, but for various reasons I then decided to go back to the TiVo,
>and someone on the forums let me download a fresh 2.5.5 image, which has
>worked fine ever since, but after all that time and money wasted, I
>think I'll just stick to something that works!
>
>In actual fact the TiVos are pretty cheap on eBay now so I might treat
>myself to another one which comes with the stuff I need!
Better not go on here as it is rather OT. We have not had these problems
so perhaps we are lucky. The two machines each have two enormous disks
and all works fine. I have load balancing software which minimises
clashes. I can control the machines from anywhere in the world by
logging into my firewall and I can lie in bed and switch programs using
the web browser in my PDA. They beat the hell out of any other recorders
although a lot is down to the superb way in which TiVo index the
programs.
--
Richard Anderton