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Old 01-10-2008, 02:59 PM
Jose
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Default Getting a Voip-in # from BetaMax in a country you don't live in?

Hi All,

Has anyone found out how to do this?

Suppose you have family in one country, and you live in a diferent
country, and would like them to be able to call you cheaply...

Regards,
Jose

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Old 01-10-2008, 03:30 PM
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All sign up to the same provider, then your calls are free...

Jose wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Has anyone found out how to do this?
>
> Suppose you have family in one country, and you live in a diferent
> country, and would like them to be able to call you cheaply...
>
> Regards,
> Jose


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Old 01-10-2008, 07:15 PM
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"Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else> schreef in bericht
news:47873254.16132625@news20.forteinc.com...

> Suppose you have family in one country, and you live in a diferent
> country, and would like them to be able to call you cheaply...


This works perfectly ..... but only for the countries where Betamax issues
Voip-in numbers
However you will need to indicate the country of your choice as your country
during registration

I have a german Betamax number, a dutch and a french one

rgds
Ph



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Old 01-11-2008, 01:22 AM
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On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:15:04 +0100, "Philippe Deleye"
<philippe_deleye@hotmail.com> wrote:

>However you will need to indicate the country of your choice as your country
>during registration



It worked perfectly! Thanks a lot for the tip!

Regards,
Jose

PS - Can you forward incoming calls on those Betamax numbers to any
other number? I'm still trying, using the PAP2 settings, so far with
no luck, still hoping it's just something Betamax systems' will have
worked out in a few hours, as sometimes the call doesn't complete at
all, or I get a message "This user is not online at the moment" (which
is not true).

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Old 01-11-2008, 07:45 AM
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Jose wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:15:04 +0100, "Philippe Deleye"
> <philippe_deleye@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> However you will need to indicate the country of your choice as your
>> country during registration

>
>
> It worked perfectly! Thanks a lot for the tip!
>
> Regards,
> Jose
>
> PS - Can you forward incoming calls on those Betamax numbers to any
> other number? I'm still trying, using the PAP2 settings, so far with
> no luck, still hoping it's just something Betamax systems' will have
> worked out in a few hours, as sometimes the call doesn't complete at
> all, or I get a message "This user is not online at the moment" (which
> is not true).


Yes, you can forwards calls, you log in on the website and then go to client
settings, then chose forward calls...


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Old 01-11-2008, 10:35 AM
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"Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else> wrote in message
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> It worked perfectly! Thanks a lot for the tip!


Just for my interest:
* for which country you succeeded in getting a Voip-in nr
* what area code ?

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Old 01-11-2008, 11:39 AM
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:45:39 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
<bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Yes, you can forwards calls, you log in on the website and then go to client
>settings, then chose forward calls...


Amen to that brother, you've found the hidden treasure! It's already
working!

Best,
Jose


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Old 01-11-2008, 11:42 AM
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:35:23 +0100, "Philippe Deleye"
<Philippe.Deleye@blablabla.advalvas.be> wrote:

>Just for my interest:
> * for which country you succeeded in getting a Voip-in nr
> * what area code ?


I hadn't a speciall interest in this or that country, but I had a
slight preference for UK numbers, and knew that Betamax was assigning
Voip-INs there.

So, I registered as living in the UK, and got a Voip-In number:
0560-xxx.xxxx.

Regards,
Jose

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Old 01-11-2008, 07:05 PM
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"Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else> wrote in message
news:478a55b1.2552796@news20.forteinc.com
: : On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:35:23 +0100, "Philippe Deleye"
: : <Philippe.Deleye@blablabla.advalvas.be> wrote:
: :
: : : Just for my interest:
: : : * for which country you succeeded in getting a
: : : Voip-in nr
: : : * what area code ?
: :
: : I hadn't a speciall interest in this or that country,
: : but I had a slight preference for UK numbers, and knew
: : that Betamax was assigning Voip-INs there.
: :
: : So, I registered as living in the UK, and got a Voip-In
: : number: 0560-xxx.xxxx.

Oh dear. Couldn't you get a proper number..?

Ivor


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Old 01-11-2008, 08:12 PM
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Ivor Jones wrote:

>
> Oh dear. Couldn't you get a proper number..?


Well, that's all I could get. One Euro down the drain.

Iain

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Old 01-11-2008, 09:55 PM
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Iain wrote :
> <no-one@hairydog.co.uk>


Were you formerly known as "Hairydog"?



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Old 01-12-2008, 09:14 AM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote in message
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> : : So, I registered as living in the UK, and got a Voip-In
> : : number: 0560-xxx.xxxx.
>
> Oh dear. Couldn't you get a proper number..?


I also got an 05601 number from Voipcheap.com. I raised this as another
thread but didn't get a reply from anybody saying if any of the
Finarea/Betamax providers provide a "proper" (i.e. geographic) incoming UK
number. They certainly used to.

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Old 01-12-2008, 01:20 PM
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Jono wrote:
> Iain wrote :
>> <no-one@hairydog.co.uk>

>
> Were you formerly known as "Hairydog"?


Well, that's the same person, but it was never my name.

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Old 01-12-2008, 02:41 PM
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Iain presented the following explanation :
> Jono wrote:
>> Iain wrote :
>>> <no-one@hairydog.co.uk>

>>
>> Were you formerly known as "Hairydog"?

>
> Well, that's the same person, but it was never my name.


as in hairydog@despammed...?

I didn't think it was a real name!

Had wondered where you'd gone, was all.



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Old 01-12-2008, 06:36 PM
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Jeremy Porteous wrote:
> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote in message
> news:5upt0cF1iubu4U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>> So, I registered as living in the UK, and got a Voip-In
>>>> number: 0560-xxx.xxxx.

>>
>> Oh dear. Couldn't you get a proper number..?

>
> I also got an 05601 number from Voipcheap.com. I raised this as
> another thread but didn't get a reply from anybody saying if any of
> the Finarea/Betamax providers provide a "proper" (i.e. geographic)
> incoming UK number. They certainly used to.
>
> JP



They used to, yes. I have a few.

It is still possible to get a 'proper' number for free and point it at the
Betamax VoIP provider.

Contact me for details if you require one.


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Old 01-12-2008, 07:33 PM
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Jono wrote:

> as in hairydog@despammed...?
>
> I didn't think it was a real name!
>
> Had wondered where you'd gone, was all.


I've not gone anywhere, but despammed.com seems to have done. Can't make
it work at all now.

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Old 01-12-2008, 11:27 PM
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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> Jeremy Porteous wrote:
>> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:5upt0cF1iubu4U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> So, I registered as living in the UK, and got a Voip-In
>>>>> number: 0560-xxx.xxxx.
>>>
>>> Oh dear. Couldn't you get a proper number..?

>>
>> I also got an 05601 number from Voipcheap.com. I raised this as
>> another thread but didn't get a reply from anybody saying if any of
>> the Finarea/Betamax providers provide a "proper" (i.e. geographic)
>> incoming UK number. They certainly used to.
>>
>> JP

>
>
> They used to, yes. I have a few.
>
> It is still possible to get a 'proper' number for free and point it
> at the Betamax VoIP provider.
>
> Contact me for details if you require one.



Sorry, no longer available. Such a shame.


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Old 01-13-2008, 09:31 PM
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On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:05:14 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:

>Oh dear. Couldn't you get a proper number..?


1) BetaMax says it's a Voip-In number they're selling you, *before*
you confirm you purchase.

2) Not sure what you mean by a "proper number", but you get a 0845/4,
a national number, or a regional one, at www.pimpmynumber.co.uk, and
they use SIP to forward to a Voip provider (other than Betamax, that
is).

Jose


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Old 01-13-2008, 09:35 PM
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On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:36:53 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
<bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>It is still possible to get a 'proper' number for free and point it at the
>Betamax VoIP provider.


Albeit at a cost, as far as I understand, as Betamax seems to be very
"selective" about which Voip providers they let in through SIP, which
would mean you'd have to route your incoming calls to the Vopi-In 0560
from Betamax.

Am I wrong??

Jose

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Old 01-13-2008, 10:17 PM
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Jose wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 18:36:53 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
> <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> It is still possible to get a 'proper' number for free and point it
>> at the Betamax VoIP provider.

>
> Albeit at a cost, as far as I understand, as Betamax seems to be very
> "selective" about which Voip providers they let in through SIP, which
> would mean you'd have to route your incoming calls to the Vopi-In 0560
> from Betamax.
>
> Am I wrong??
>
> Jose


There wasn't a cost.

You just entered your username and @sip.voipdiscount.com and it worked same
with the other Betamax VoIP services.

You paid nothing for the local number and no monthly fees, and no costs for
it SIP forwarding.


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Old 01-15-2008, 02:34 PM
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:17:27 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
<bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>There wasn't a cost.
>
>You just entered your username and @sip.voipdiscount.com and it worked same
>with the other Betamax VoIP services.
>
>You paid nothing for the local number and no monthly fees, and no costs for
>it SIP forwarding.



You can't forward from www.pimpmynumber.co.uk to Betamax via SIP.

Let me know if, and how, you manage to forward from any other provider
to Betamax via SIP - without using a Betamax Voip-In number.

Regards,
Jose


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Old 01-15-2008, 06:47 PM
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Jose wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:17:27 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
> <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> There wasn't a cost.
>>
>> You just entered your username and @sip.voipdiscount.com and it
>> worked same with the other Betamax VoIP services.
>>
>> You paid nothing for the local number and no monthly fees, and no
>> costs for it SIP forwarding.

>
>
> You can't forward from www.pimpmynumber.co.uk to Betamax via SIP.
>
> Let me know if, and how, you manage to forward from any other provider
> to Betamax via SIP - without using a Betamax Voip-In number.
>
> Regards,
> Jose



Yeah, the service I use you just forward to external provider and use
VoIPStunt username @sip.voipstunt.com for example or any other of the
betamax services.

However they are no longer issuing numbers for free and charge a monthly fee
for the local number.


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Old 01-15-2008, 07:43 PM
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:31:32 GMT, go.spam@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:

>On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:05:14 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
><ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Oh dear. Couldn't you get a proper number..?

>
>1) BetaMax says it's a Voip-In number they're selling you, *before*
>you confirm you purchase.
>
>2) Not sure what you mean by a "proper number", but you get a 0845/4,
>a national number, or a regional one, at www.pimpmynumber.co.uk, and
>they use SIP to forward to a Voip provider (other than Betamax, that
>is).
>
>Jose

Does anyone know a cheap source for a geo incoming number for Spain,
Malaga/Costa Del Sol area?

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Old 01-15-2008, 07:45 PM
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"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> You can't forward from www.pimpmynumber.co.uk to Betamax via SIP.
>>
>> Let me know if, and how, you manage to forward from any other provider
>> to Betamax via SIP - without using a Betamax Voip-In number.

>
> Yeah, the service I use you just forward to external provider and use
> VoIPStunt username @sip.voipstunt.com for example or any other of the
> betamax services.
>
> However they are no longer issuing numbers for free and charge a monthly
> fee for the local number.


Which service was that for interest?

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Jeremy Porteous wrote:
> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:wd7jj.77865$c_1.76529@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>>> You can't forward from www.pimpmynumber.co.uk to Betamax via SIP.
>>>
>>> Let me know if, and how, you manage to forward from any other
>>> provider to Betamax via SIP - without using a Betamax Voip-In
>>> number.

>>
>> Yeah, the service I use you just forward to external provider and use
>> VoIPStunt username @sip.voipstunt.com for example or any other of the
>> betamax services.
>>
>> However they are no longer issuing numbers for free and charge a
>> monthly fee for the local number.

>
> Which service was that for interest?
>
> JP


The people on here who knew about it, knew about it and didn't want to
spread across the groups.

You never know they might offer similar in the future.


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