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Old 01-23-2007, 09:20 PM
Jay
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Default Help needed in selecting VOIP provider

Hi ,
I am new to voip and am looking to explore this.
I have selected the Siemens C460IP phone
http://www.home-phones.co.uk/asp/pro...=any&PT_ID=all

Want to know which service provider is best for my needs?
Main international call destinations are:
India , Philippines & USA
best rates I have are from 18185.com

Looking for a VOIP provider that will be useful for international as well as
local use.
Voice Mail service

Hope you can help me!
J



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Old 01-24-2007, 12:08 AM
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On 2007-01-23, Jay <jay@jay.com> wrote:

> Hi ,
> I am new to voip and am looking to explore this.
> I have selected the Siemens C460IP phone
> http://www.home-phones.co.uk/asp/pro...=any&PT_ID=all
>
> Want to know which service provider is best for my needs?
> Main international call destinations are:
> India , Philippines & USA
> best rates I have are from 18185.com
>
> Looking for a VOIP provider that will be useful for international as well as
> local use.
> Voice Mail service


None of the voip services appear to better 18185's present rates for
India and the Philippines. The UK and US rates are good too.

Brian.

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Old 01-24-2007, 12:42 AM
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<N.Dexter@preston.no-ip.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:20:41 -0000, "Jay" <jay@jay.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi ,
> > I am new to voip and am looking to explore this.
> > I have selected the Siemens C460IP phone
> > http://www.home-phones.co.uk/asp/pro...=any&PT_ID=all
> >
> > Want to know which service provider is best for my
> > needs?
> > Main international call destinations are:
> > India , Philippines & USA
> > best rates I have are from 18185.com
> >
> > Looking for a VOIP provider that will be useful for
> > international as well as local use.
> > Voice Mail service
> >
> > Hope you can help me!
> > J

> www.voip.co.uk free UK calls evenings and weekends 1.17p
> daytime 2p a minute to most of Europe or
> www.voipfone.co.uk similar call charges but no free calls
> just keep well away from Sipgate no matter what anyone
> says .


Keep well away from anything Ron Chew says...

Ivor



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Old 01-24-2007, 09:33 AM
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:20:41 -0000, "Jay" <jay@jay.com> wrote:

>I am new to voip and am looking to explore this.
>I have selected the Siemens C460IP phone
>http://www.home-phones.co.uk/asp/pro...=any&PT_ID=all
>
>Want to know which service provider is best for my needs?
>Main international call destinations are:
>India , Philippines & USA
>best rates I have are from 18185.com


Change your broadband provider to Orange. They supply the box, and a
VOIP account is included. Free calls to all UK landlines and overseas
numbers. You don't need a special expensive phone - just plug any
standard phone, or the base station of a cordless phone, into the box.
If you also have a mobile phone contract with them, it's even cheaper.

Rod.

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Old 01-24-2007, 10:55 AM
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:33:37 +0000, Roderick Stewart
<escapetime@removethisbit.beeb.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:20:41 -0000, "Jay" <jay@jay.com> wrote:
>
>>I am new to voip and am looking to explore this.
>>I have selected the Siemens C460IP phone
>>http://www.home-phones.co.uk/asp/pro...=any&PT_ID=all
>>
>>Want to know which service provider is best for my needs?
>>Main international call destinations are:
>>India , Philippines & USA
>>best rates I have are from 18185.com

>
>Change your broadband provider to Orange. They supply the box, and a
>VOIP account is included. Free calls to all UK landlines and overseas
>numbers. You don't need a special expensive phone - just plug any
>standard phone, or the base station of a cordless phone, into the box.
>If you also have a mobile phone contract with them, it's even cheaper.
>
>Rod.

Orange free calls DO NOT include calls to India - the rate is a
whopping 25p/min and 40p/min to mobiles. Inclusive calls do include
do include calls to Philippines and USA.
There are literally HUNDREDS of SIP voip providers. Check out the list
on the sipbroker.com site.
I would look at the providers in the region you are trying to call.
I checked just one well known Australian provider - pennytel.com.
As converted from AU$ :-
India 4p/min (same as 18185 but no connection fee of course)
Philippines 6p/min (18185 is 7p/min)
It is likely that you will find cheaper if you look around.
This is why it is good to have an ATA that will permit the use of
several providers. If yours does not then you can utilise Voxalot to
facilitate that.
For the US, UK and Europe I would use Vyke.co.uk - 2p/call.

Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.

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Old 01-24-2007, 12:59 PM
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<N.Dexter@preston.no-ip.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Incidentally when are you going to become a European ???.


In a recent Teletext (ITV1) poll, 93% of the respondents voted that they
thought the UK would be better off out of Europe .

OK, I know they probably didn't get a truly representitive sample of voters,
but in my opinion the result was probably how the majority of people think
about the EC or whatever it calls itself at the moment.

Taking into account all the immigration, imbalance of financial
input/output, bureaucracy, etc.etc. I'm inclined to agree with the majority
of voters in that poll.

So Ivor might not be in the minority if he doesn't wish to be considered
European. On the other hand......

Rob



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Old 01-24-2007, 02:12 PM
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Thus spaketh Rob:
> <N.Dexter@preston.no-ip.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:shier2lb4m3ob7tkaiel6kvo0b7bufqgbe@4ax.com...
>>
>> Incidentally when are you going to become a European ???.

>
> In a recent Teletext (ITV1) poll, 93% of the respondents voted that
> they thought the UK would be better off out of Europe .
>
> OK, I know they probably didn't get a truly representitive sample of
> voters, but in my opinion the result was probably how the majority of
> people think about the EC or whatever it calls itself at the moment.
>
> Taking into account all the immigration, imbalance of financial
> input/output, bureaucracy, etc.etc. I'm inclined to agree with the
> majority of voters in that poll.
>
> So Ivor might not be in the minority if he doesn't wish to be
> considered European. On the other hand......
>
> Rob



I'm happy to be part of the EU, and if the unthinkable were to happen
and sadly we did the crazy thing and pull out, I would move to a country
that remained in the EU.

Trouble is we have too many people believing what the media wants them
to believe.


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Old 01-24-2007, 07:34 PM
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<N.Dexter@preston.no-ip.co.uk> wrote in message
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[snip]

> Has I have said Rob I fully agree with what you have said.
> > So Ivor might not be in the minority if he doesn't wish
> > to be considered European. On the other hand......


"Has" I said..? When are you going to learn to spell..?!

> Whether he like it or not it he is a European at the
> moment like everyone else.


Wrong.

Ivor



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Old 01-24-2007, 07:36 PM
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"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk>
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[snip]

> I'm happy to be part of the EU, and if the unthinkable
> were to happen and sadly we did the crazy thing and pull
> out, I would move to a country that remained in the EU.


Off you go then, but don't try and force me to go with you.

> Trouble is we have too many people believing what the
> media wants them to believe.


Nobody tells me what to believe, particularly idiots called Ron.

Ivor



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Old 01-27-2007, 02:09 AM
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Thus spaketh clavox@btinternet.com:
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:34:59 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>> "Has" I said..? When are you going to learn to spell..?!
>>

> Does it matter ! I can read what he has posted only totally obnoxious
> human beings criticize other peoples spelling etc .
>
>>> Whether he like it or not it he is a European at the
>>> moment like everyone else.

>>
>> Wrong.

> Ah so you must be one of those Muslim types then who goes of to
> wash in some river in the east that is filled with dead rotting
> animals and their excrement .
> You know Ivor I have only been reading this group for two or three
> days and I am totally sick of seeing your name ,everyone else that I
> have seen here seems to be fairly decent and sensible and are not
> ashamed of being who and what they are .




It was thanks to Ivor that this group came into being.

Though I agree it does get boring the bickering between the two.

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Old 01-27-2007, 02:15 AM
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<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:34:59 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> > "Has" I said..? When are you going to learn to spell..?!
> >

> Does it matter ! I can read what he has posted only
> totally obnoxious human beings criticize other peoples
> spelling etc .


Yes it matters. If you can't see why, there is no point in explaining it.

> > > Whether he like it or not it he is a European at the
> > > moment like everyone else.

> >
> > Wrong.


> Ah so you must be one of those Muslim types


Wrong again.

> You know Ivor I have only been reading this group for two
> or three days and I am totally sick of seeing your name


So killfile me, do I care..?

> ,everyone else that I have seen here seems to be fairly
> decent and sensible and are not ashamed of being who and
> what they are .


I'm not ashamed of what I am. But I refuse to accept being called what I
am not.

Ivor



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Old 01-27-2007, 02:17 AM
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"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk>
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[snip]

> It was thanks to Ivor that this group came into being.


Thankyou for that.

> Though I agree it does get boring the bickering between
> the two.


The continuation of it comes solely from the other end. If he stops
insulting me, I will stop defending myself.

Ivor



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