Michael wrote:
> In the IPKall setup page, could somebody tell me how the Sipgate details
> are entered please?
>
> Are the Sipgate details entered as:
>
> Sip Phone No: 0207mmmmmmm
> SIP Proxy: sipgate.co.uk
>
> Thanks.
I believe you will need your sipgate account number not your telephone
number. This is normally 1mmmmmm.
In message of Fri, 26 Aug 2005, davew writes
>Michael wrote:
>> In the IPKall setup page, could somebody tell me how the Sipgate
>>details are entered please?
>> Are the Sipgate details entered as:
>> Sip Phone No: 0207mmmmmmm
>> SIP Proxy: sipgate.co.uk
>> Thanks.
>
>I believe you will need your sipgate account number not your telephone
>number. This is normally 1mmmmmm.
>
No it's not - 2 of mine begin with 9 and one begins with 7. And yes it
is this number you enter for IPKall not your PSTN No.
"Michael" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:430ed68a$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> In the IPKall setup page, could somebody tell me how the Sipgate details
> are entered please?
>
> Are the Sipgate details entered as:
>
> Sip Phone No: 0207mmmmmmm
> SIP Proxy: sipgate.co.uk
>
> Thanks.
Just to clarify.
Sip phone number = 7 Digit Sipgate ID number (Not necesasarily your PSTN
number)
Sip proxy = sipgate.co.uk
Jono wrote:
> "Michael" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> news:430ed68a$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
>>In the IPKall setup page, could somebody tell me how the Sipgate details
>>are entered please?
>>
>>Are the Sipgate details entered as:
>>
>>Sip Phone No: 0207mmmmmmm
>>SIP Proxy: sipgate.co.uk
>>
>>Thanks.
>
>
> Just to clarify.
>
> Sip phone number = 7 Digit Sipgate ID number (Not necesasarily your PSTN
> number)
> Sip proxy = sipgate.co.uk
>
Thanks for the replies. I had originally (last night) used the Sipgate
ID number without any success. Tried the PSTN number this morning
without any success, so thought I would enquire here. Will go back to
the Sipgate ID number and see what happens.
"Michael" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:430ee5eb_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Jono wrote:
>> "Michael" <a@a.com> wrote in message
>> news:430ed68a$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>
>>>In the IPKall setup page, could somebody tell me how the Sipgate details
>>>are entered please?
>>>
>>>Are the Sipgate details entered as:
>>>
>>>Sip Phone No: 0207mmmmmmm
>>>SIP Proxy: sipgate.co.uk
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Just to clarify.
>>
>> Sip phone number = 7 Digit Sipgate ID number (Not necesasarily your PSTN
>> number)
>> Sip proxy = sipgate.co.uk
>>
>
> Thanks for the replies. I had originally (last night) used the Sipgate ID
> number without any success. Tried the PSTN number this morning without
> any success, so thought I would enquire here. Will go back to the Sipgate
> ID number and see what happens.
How long did you leave it? Changes on the Ipkall site can take up to an hour
to come into effect.
This might be stating the blindingly obvious - Your Sipgate phone needs to
be online & signed in to Sipgate.
When I first created my Ipkall account, I'm sure it took a while to start
working.
How are you dialling your Ipkall number to test? 001360xxxxxxx ?
David Floyd wrote:
> In message of Fri, 26 Aug 2005, davew writes
>
>> Michael wrote:
>>
>>> In the IPKall setup page, could somebody tell me how the Sipgate
>>> details are entered please?
>>> Are the Sipgate details entered as:
>>> Sip Phone No: 0207mmmmmmm
>>> SIP Proxy: sipgate.co.uk
>>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> I believe you will need your sipgate account number not your telephone
>> number. This is normally 1mmmmmm.
>>
>
> No it's not - 2 of mine begin with 9 and one begins with 7. And yes it
> is this number you enter for IPKall not your PSTN No.
>
> DF
David, do you just search usenet to tell me i'm wrong? ;)
i have access to 6 sipgate accounts, all start with a 1. So in my
instance; accounts do normally start with 1. Maybe it's down to
allocation in various geo's.
"davew" <daviey.walker*SPAM*virgin.net> wrote in message
news:jM-dnRiF8a64iZLeRVnygw@pipex.net...
> David Floyd wrote:
>> In message of Fri, 26 Aug 2005, davew writes
>>
>>> Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the IPKall setup page, could somebody tell me how the Sipgate
>>>> details are entered please?
>>>> Are the Sipgate details entered as:
>>>> Sip Phone No: 0207mmmmmmm
>>>> SIP Proxy: sipgate.co.uk
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe you will need your sipgate account number not your telephone
>>> number. This is normally 1mmmmmm.
>>>
>>
>> No it's not - 2 of mine begin with 9 and one begins with 7. And yes it is
>> this number you enter for IPKall not your PSTN No.
>>
>> DF
>
> David, do you just search usenet to tell me i'm wrong? ;)
>
> i have access to 6 sipgate accounts, all start with a 1. So in my
> instance; accounts do normally start with 1. Maybe it's down to
> allocation in various geo's.
The first digit depends (almost) entirely on your std - often, the 7 digit
SIP ID is composed of the last digit of your STD, and the 6 digits of your
PSTN number.
In message of Fri, 26 Aug 2005, davew writes
>David Floyd wrote:
>> In message of Fri, 26 Aug 2005, davew writes
>>
>>> Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the IPKall setup page, could somebody tell me how the Sipgate
>>>>details are entered please?
>>>> Are the Sipgate details entered as:
>>>> Sip Phone No: 0207mmmmmmm
>>>> SIP Proxy: sipgate.co.uk
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe you will need your sipgate account number not your
>>>telephone number. This is normally 1mmmmmm.
>>>
>> No it's not - 2 of mine begin with 9 and one begins with 7. And yes
>>it is this number you enter for IPKall not your PSTN No.
>> DF
>
>David, do you just search usenet to tell me i'm wrong? ;)
>
No. I was correcting a statement made in a public newsgroup. If you had
added 'in my case' that would have been more accurate. But if the other
person was looking specifically for a number beginning with '1' because
of your statement, he could have had a wild goose chase. I was merely
stating that it is not normally '1' as it could be any other number.
In message of Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Jono writes
>
>"davew" <daviey.walker*SPAM*virgin.net> wrote in message
>news:jM-dnRiF8a64iZLeRVnygw@pipex.net...
>> David Floyd wrote:
>>> In message of Fri, 26 Aug 2005, davew writes
>>>
>>>> Michael wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In the IPKall setup page, could somebody tell me how the Sipgate
>>>>> details are entered please?
>>>>> Are the Sipgate details entered as:
>>>>> Sip Phone No: 0207mmmmmmm
>>>>> SIP Proxy: sipgate.co.uk
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe you will need your sipgate account number not your telephone
>>>> number. This is normally 1mmmmmm.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No it's not - 2 of mine begin with 9 and one begins with 7. And yes it is
>>> this number you enter for IPKall not your PSTN No.
>>>
>>> DF
>>
>> David, do you just search usenet to tell me i'm wrong? ;)
>>
>> i have access to 6 sipgate accounts, all start with a 1. So in my
>> instance; accounts do normally start with 1. Maybe it's down to
>> allocation in various geo's.
>
>The first digit depends (almost) entirely on your std - often, the 7 digit
>SIP ID is composed of the last digit of your STD, and the 6 digits of your
>PSTN number.
>
>Assuming 0xxxx xxxxxx is the pattern.
>
>
I really don't know how you can make such a declaration. I have 2
Bristol numbers in the format 0117 nnnnnnn and my Sipgate number on both
of these happens to be my full local number (beginning with 9 as it
happens).
I also have a Devizes number 01380 88nnnn but my Sipgate number there is
nothing like what you've said as it's 730xxxx (xxxx is nothing like the
nnnn)
So no assumptions can be made.
But I have noted that you use 'almost' and 'often' in your statement,
but it's of no use unless it's 'always'
>
> I really don't know how you can make such a declaration. I have 2
> Bristol numbers in the format 0117 nnnnnnn and my Sipgate number on both
> of these happens to be my full local number (beginning with 9 as it
> happens).
>
> I also have a Devizes number 01380 88nnnn but my Sipgate number there is
> nothing like what you've said as it's 730xxxx (xxxx is nothing like the
> nnnn)
>
> So no assumptions can be made.
>
> But I have noted that you use 'almost' and 'often' in your statement,
> but it's of no use unless it's 'always'
>
> DF
>
David, i think your really taking this too far. I stated that:
"This is normally 1mmmmmm."
On the 6 accounts i have access to along with others i know (ie Ivor's
Speaking Clock [http://tinyurl.com/7bzcq]) all begin with a 1. I'm
sorry this isn't the case with all. If it will make you feel better i
will gladly be put in the stocks so you can throw rotten fruit.
Furthermore, in regards to your last statement. Please cite my use of
'almost' and 'often'.
Jono wrote:
> "Michael" <a@a.com> wrote in message
> news:430ee5eb_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
>>Jono wrote:
>>
>>>"Michael" <a@a.com> wrote in message
>>>news:430ed68a$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>In the IPKall setup page, could somebody tell me how the Sipgate details
>>>>are entered please?
>>>>
>>>>Are the Sipgate details entered as:
>>>>
>>>>Sip Phone No: 0207mmmmmmm
>>>>SIP Proxy: sipgate.co.uk
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>Just to clarify.
>>>
>>>Sip phone number = 7 Digit Sipgate ID number (Not necesasarily your PSTN
>>>number)
>>>Sip proxy = sipgate.co.uk
>>>
>>
>>Thanks for the replies. I had originally (last night) used the Sipgate ID
>>number without any success. Tried the PSTN number this morning without
>>any success, so thought I would enquire here. Will go back to the Sipgate
>>ID number and see what happens.
>
>
> How long did you leave it? Changes on the Ipkall site can take up to an hour
> to come into effect.
>
I left it overnight before I tried without any success. Everything
seems to be working fine now, thanks.
> This might be stating the blindingly obvious - Your Sipgate phone needs to
> be online & signed in to Sipgate.
>
Sure was :0)
> When I first created my Ipkall account, I'm sure it took a while to start
> working.
>
> How are you dialling your Ipkall number to test? 001360xxxxxxx ?
>
>
Yep!
In message of Fri, 26 Aug 2005, davew writes
>
>> I really don't know how you can make such a declaration. I have 2
>>Bristol numbers in the format 0117 nnnnnnn and my Sipgate number on
>>both of these happens to be my full local number (beginning with 9 as
>>it happens).
>> I also have a Devizes number 01380 88nnnn but my Sipgate number
>>there is nothing like what you've said as it's 730xxxx (xxxx is
>>nothing like the nnnn)
>> So no assumptions can be made.
>> But I have noted that you use 'almost' and 'often' in your
>>statement, but it's of no use unless it's 'always'
>> DF
>>
>
>David, i think your really taking this too far. I stated that:
>"This is normally 1mmmmmm."
>
>On the 6 accounts i have access to along with others i know (ie Ivor's
>Speaking Clock [http://tinyurl.com/7bzcq]) all begin with a 1. I'm
>sorry this isn't the case with all. If it will make you feel better i
>will gladly be put in the stocks so you can throw rotten fruit.
>
>Furthermore, in regards to your last statement. Please cite my use of
>'almost' and 'often'.
I wasn't talking to you, or even replying to you. Read the thread
properly. You can't even quote the threads properly - no wonder you get
in a muddle as to who's said what.
>>
>> No it's not - 2 of mine begin with 9 and one begins with 7. And yes it
>> is this number you enter for IPKall not your PSTN No.
>>
>> DF
>
>
> David, do you just search usenet to tell me i'm wrong? ;)
>
> i have access to 6 sipgate accounts, all start with a 1. So in my
> instance; accounts do normally start with 1. Maybe it's down to
> allocation in various geo's.
I've got 5 that start with 1, 2 that start with 9 and 1 that starts with
six (between 2 dialling codes, and no, they are not all my own useage).
Thomas Rankin wrote:
> I've got 5 that start with 1, 2 that start with 9 and 1 that starts with
> six (between 2 dialling codes, and no, they are not all my own useage).
Forgot to mention, one of my account numbers bears no resemblance to the
phone number at all.
"Thomas Rankin" <tom@sanguinarius.dyndns.org> wrote in
message news:00HPe.608$s4.402@newsfe7-win.ntli.net
> Thomas Rankin wrote:
> > I've got 5 that start with 1, 2 that start with 9 and 1
> > that starts with six (between 2 dialling codes, and no,
> > they are not all my own useage).
>
> Forgot to mention, one of my account numbers bears no
> resemblance to the phone number at all.
It won't if you've changed the phone number on the account, the SIP number
always remains the same. Incidentally, my Birmingham number starts with 3
(0121-314 xxxx)
"Michael" <a@a.com> wrote in message
news:430ed68a$1_3@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> In the IPKall setup page, could somebody tell me how the Sipgate details
> are entered please?
>
> Are the Sipgate details entered as:
>
> Sip Phone No: 0207mmmmmmm
> SIP Proxy: sipgate.co.uk
>
> Thanks.
Get ready for silent calls in the middle of the night if you do that ! : )
In message of Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Ivor Jones writes
>
>
>"Thomas Rankin" <tom@sanguinarius.dyndns.org> wrote in
>message news:00HPe.608$s4.402@newsfe7-win.ntli.net
>>
>> Forgot to mention, one of my account numbers bears no
>> resemblance to the phone number at all.
>
>It won't if you've changed the phone number on the account, the SIP number
>always remains the same. Incidentally, my Birmingham number starts with 3
>(0121-314 xxxx)
>
Well I haven't changed my Devizes number, and my SIP number never
resemble the phone number from the time a registered.
> Well I haven't changed my Devizes number, and my SIP number never
> resemble the phone number from the time a registered.
Maybe an example may clear up any confusion here (this isn't aimed at
David, this is just a convenient place to put this).
The STD for Telford is 01952 and the number range allocated to Sipgate
(OK, to Magrathea for the pedantic) is 898xxx. Therefore Sipgate's SIP
numbers for Telford users are (under normal circumstances) in the format
2898xxx. However, the STD code for Derby is 01332 and the number range
allocated there is also 898xxx, so obviously people from Derby who sign
up for Sipgate are unlikely to get a SIP number in the format 2898xxx...
Hence why some Sipgate SIP numbers correspond to their PSTN number and
others don't <monty python> even, and I want to make this absolutely
clear, even if they haven't changed their number... </mp>. ;-)
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"Dave Gill" <spam-egg-chips-n-spam@spamsoff.co.uk> wrote in
message
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[snip]
> The STD for Telford is 01952 and the number range
> allocated to Sipgate (OK, to Magrathea for the pedantic)
> is 898xxx. Therefore Sipgate's SIP numbers for Telford
> users are (under normal circumstances) in the format
> 2898xxx. However, the STD code for Derby is 01332 and
> the number range allocated there is also 898xxx, so
> obviously people from Derby who sign up for Sipgate are
> unlikely to get a SIP number in the format 2898xxx...
>
> Hence why some Sipgate SIP numbers correspond to their
> PSTN number and others don't <monty python> even, and I
> want to make this absolutely clear, even if they haven't
> changed their number... </mp>. ;-)
Ok, let's just say that *most* SIP numbers and PSTN numbers correspond, at
least as far as the last 6 digits. I personally have never seen any
instances where a new signup produced totally different PSTN and SIP
numbers, but I suppose they must exist..!
London ones in the PSTN range 020 7043 xxxx almost always start with a 1
in place of the 0 in 7043, i.e. my speaking clock is 1431320 (go on, call
it, you know you want to <g>) but I have seen a couple of rare ones where
they don't.
"Anon Y Mous" <..@..> wrote in message
news:431037b6$0$97114$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net
> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > (go on, call
> > it, you know you want to <g>)
>
> > D it works !
> Ok, let's just say that *most* SIP numbers and PSTN numbers
correspond, at least as far as the last 6 digits. I personally have
never seen any instances where a new signup produced totally different
PSTN and SIP numbers, but I suppose they must exist..!
>
My one did, and it's in an area code that has otherwise produced
matching account numbers. (which appears to have more than one allocated
range of numbers).
Not that I'm bothered, it all works fine.
> London ones in the PSTN range 020 7043 xxxx almost always start with
a 1 in place of the 0 in 7043, i.e. my speaking clock is 1431320 (go on,
call it, you know you want to <g>) but I have seen a couple of rare ones
where they don't.
>
> Ivor
>
Apparently voiptalk have one on 0923, although it wouls have been much
cheaper to just put something in extensions.conf like:
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:3natgkFlovcU1@individual.net...
>
>
> "Anon Y Mous" <..@..> wrote in message
> news:431037b6$0$97114$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>> > (go on, call
>> > it, you know you want to <g>)
>>
>> > D it works !
>
> I should hope so, it cost enough ;-)
>
> Ivor
>
>
hi ivor nice to see you back lovey, where have you been all wekk and can you
please answer a question, you are clearly very knowledgable about issues but
why did you choose to be a bus driver, you could have earnt ten timesmore
doing tech stuff or whatvere. Just curious.
"Thomas Rankin" <tom@sanguinarius.dyndns.org> wrote in
message news:LRXPe.82$x4.45@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net
[snip]
> exten => <sipgate acct. number>,1,Background(welcome)
> exten => <sipgate acct. number>,2,DateTime
> exten => <sipgate acct. number>,3,Hangup
>
>
> and run ntp or a radio clock.
>
> (would be able to handle more than one simultaneous call
> then too).
> See, I'm getting better at using asterisk :-)
> Now, I wonder if you can extract the time from the CLID
> signature ....
Probably, but you're missing the point..! My clock is purely and simply
for a bit of nostalgia, nothing more. See http://www.sigtel.com/tel_info_tim2000.html for what it's all about.
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:3nap2sFlq33U1@individual.net...
> least as far as the last 6 digits. I personally have never seen any
> instances where a new signup produced totally different PSTN and SIP
> numbers, but I suppose they must exist..!
>
> Probably, but you're missing the point..! My clock is purely and simply
> for a bit of nostalgia, nothing more. See
> http://www.sigtel.com/tel_info_tim2000.html for what it's all about.
>
> Ivor
That page has the fun phrase ' manually twice annually '
"Mark Adamson" <fliblebibble@adamsonfdfgdf.com> wrote in
message news:des4hg$bvf$1@wisteria.csv.warwick.ac.uk
> > Probably, but you're missing the point..! My clock is
> > purely and simply for a bit of nostalgia, nothing more.
> > See http://www.sigtel.com/tel_info_tim2000.html for
> > what it's all about. Ivor
>
> That page has the fun phrase ' manually twice annually '
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