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Old 03-21-2007, 03:15 AM
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Hi Guys,

theres been a lot of interest into the flexor 151 units:

www.connexin.co.uk

we are selling them at £39.99 and giving away 200 uk mins equivalent
worth of call credit for a limited time only.

Also i am organisiing a webinar for those interested in finding out
more about this product. If you are interested in a webinar session
kindly get in otuch with up via the support section of the website
(http://www.connexin.co.uk/support.htm).

Regards

F


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Old 03-21-2007, 03:22 AM
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fa103 wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> theres been a lot of interest into the flexor 151 units:


How many SIP accounts can they handle simmultaneously?

Do they have a "digit map" to define which account is used depending on
leading numbers dialed?

Can they strip and replace numbers i.e. I dail 01 the unit replaces
it with 00441?

All questions I couldn't find any information about in the user guide
..pdf which would lead me to belive the above can't be done.

Cheers
Pete

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Old 03-21-2007, 03:32 AM
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fa103 wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> theres been a lot of interest into the flexor 151 units:
>


Piss off spammer, you are not welcome.



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Old 03-21-2007, 03:35 AM
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On Mar 21, 2:22 am, "Pete @ www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
<gymr...@biggassmusclebuildingshop.gym> wrote:
> fa103 wrote:
> > Hi Guys,

>
> > theres been a lot of interest into the flexor 151 units:

>
> How many SIP accounts can they handle simmultaneously?
>
> Do they have a "digit map" to define which account is used depending on
> leading numbers dialed?
>
> Can they strip and replace numbers i.e. I dail 01 the unit replaces
> it with 00441?
>
> All questions I couldn't find any information about in the user guide
> .pdf which would lead me to belive the above can't be done.
>
> Cheers
> Pete


Hi Pete,

Hope you are well,

The Flexors have a really User Friendly appeal they do not currently
offer multiple sip account support simultaneously but you can add
several sip accounts to the device.
They are really very very easy to use. These really are really nifty
devices. We decided to give 200 mins free to show how far better our
quality is than that of SIP gate Vonage, voip.co.uk etc etc. I believe
£39.99 for the flexors (+200 mins to UK lines and 400 to certain
destinations) is the beailable best deal available.

Regards,

Furqan



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Old 03-21-2007, 08:02 AM
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:32:12 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
<bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Piss off spammer, you are not welcome.


Agreed. This is blatent spam from f.alamgir@connexin.co.uk who is
using this newsgroup to pedal the company products.

I trust that regular users of this group will see these messages from
f.alamgir@connexin.co.uk as what they are. Deliberate advertising in a
non advertising group.

Roger.

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Old 03-21-2007, 08:42 AM
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Pete @ www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:
> fa103 wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> theres been a lot of interest into the flexor 151 units:

>
> How many SIP accounts can they handle simmultaneously?
>
> Do they have a "digit map" to define which account is used depending on
> leading numbers dialed?
>
> Can they strip and replace numbers i.e. I dail 01 the unit replaces
> it with 00441?
>
> All questions I couldn't find any information about in the user guide
> .pdf which would lead me to belive the above can't be done.


I have recently been testing these devices in my lab with the support of
the Camrivox. They have a very stripped down interface designed to allow
the clueless to configure them. The features you mention are only
configurable using the deployment tool Camrivox offer to ITSP's etc.

I had to ask Camrivox to add in the option to switch off/on Call Waiting
while testing their Flexor 500 phone (which uses similar firmware) in
our office.

Regards

Jon

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Old 03-21-2007, 09:10 AM
Pete @ www.GymRatZ.co.uk
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Roger Baker wrote:

> Agreed. This is blatent spam from f.alamgir@connexin.co.uk who is
> using this newsgroup to pedal the company products.
>
> I trust that regular users of this group will see these messages from
> f.alamgir@connexin.co.uk as what they are. Deliberate advertising in a
> non advertising group.


Agreed, but sometimes if somone has a product they are so enthusiastic
about, it's sometimes difficult for them to draw the line between
general interest and over-enthusiasm which gets the poster labelled as
an undesirable spammer.

Been there, done that got the T-Shirt when I first started in 1999 !

Everyone makes mistakes in usenet land.

Hopefully he will have seen the error of his ways.
Cheers
Pete

http://www.gymratz.co.uk
The UK's most honest gym and fitness equipment supplier!
:¬)

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Old 03-21-2007, 09:24 AM
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"fa103" <f.alamgir@connexin.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1174443349.522531.81270@y66g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com
> Hi Guys,
>
> theres been a lot of interest into the flexor 151 units:


Will you *please* stop posting spam here..? A short message mentioning a
service is one thing but as soon as you mention prices it becomes a
commercial advertisement which is completely against the group charter.

Abuse reported to groups-abuse@google.com


Ivor



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Old 03-21-2007, 09:29 AM
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"Pete @ www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
<gymratz@biggassmusclebuildingshop.gym> wrote in message
news:etqpae$hfg$1@registered.motzarella.org
> Roger Baker wrote:
>
> > Agreed. This is blatent spam from
> > f.alamgir@connexin.co.uk who is using this newsgroup to
> > pedal the company products. I trust that regular users of this group
> > will see these
> > messages from f.alamgir@connexin.co.uk as what they
> > are. Deliberate advertising in a non advertising group.

>
> Agreed, but sometimes if somone has a product they are so
> enthusiastic about, it's sometimes difficult for them to
> draw the line between general interest and
> over-enthusiasm which gets the poster labelled as an
> undesirable spammer.


IMHO as soon as prices are mentioned it becomes nothing more than an
advertisement, which is definitely off-charter. Reported to google groups
but they are known not to do anything.

> Been there, done that got the T-Shirt when I first
> started in 1999 !
> Everyone makes mistakes in usenet land.
>
> Hopefully he will have seen the error of his ways.
> Cheers
> Pete


I doubt it somehow.

Ivor




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Old 03-21-2007, 10:22 AM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:56c8geF28pic9U1@mid.individual.net...
> "fa103" <f.alamgir@connexin.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1174443349.522531.81270@y66g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > theres been a lot of interest into the flexor 151 units:

>
> Will you *please* stop posting spam here..? A short message mentioning a
> service is one thing but as soon as you mention prices it becomes a
> commercial advertisement which is completely against the group charter.
>
> Abuse reported to groups-abuse@google.com
>
>
> Ivor


And what do you think reporting the abuse is going to achieve? We live in
'dont give a f*ck britain'
No one cares anymore.





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Old 03-21-2007, 11:08 AM
Pete @ www.GymRatZ.co.uk
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Ivor Jones wrote:

> IMHO as soon as prices are mentioned it becomes nothing more than an
> advertisement, which is definitely off-charter.


I know, but again, people discover google groups as it's there as a link
from every google search page.

People that have only been around since the google days will most likely
never have heard the term usenet let alone appreciate it was created
with group charters and groups were created usually by an individual who
wanted somewhere to discuss a favourite topic or hobby.

Sadly Google is destroying traditional internet values and doesn't give
a toss about it as long as they keep theri revenue flooding in.

Why not post a link to the charter once a month so some of the newbies
at least have a chance to avoid stepping in the sht with both feet.

....... or we could just rip-em to bits for not complying and scare them
off for ever.
:¬))

Pete
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http://commercial-gym-equipment.co.uk
The best bloody gym equipment in the world !
We also do fitness equipment and stuff.


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Old 03-21-2007, 11:15 AM
Pete @ www.GymRatZ.co.uk
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Steve wrote:

> And what do you think reporting the abuse is going to achieve? We live in
> 'dont give a f*ck britain'
> No one cares anymore.


Besides which, one post that upsets one or 2 people of a group is hardly
grounds for cutting of testicles.

Now, if you do as search on the posters history and find he has posted
the same advertising 1000's of time over 100's of groups in the last few
days perhaps there _may_ be a point in drawing attention to the fact.

I still doubt it would have any effect.
Finally.....
If google _did_ pull the posters googlegroups account he either just
signs up again or finds another free usenet server and carries on again.

It's a free world and the internet was created to prevent a single power
controlling it which it does very well.

:¬)

Pete

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Old 03-21-2007, 11:22 AM
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Jon Farmer wrote:
> Pete @ www.GymRatZ.co.uk wrote:
>> fa103 wrote:
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> theres been a lot of interest into the flexor 151 units:

>> How many SIP accounts can they handle simmultaneously?
>>
>> Do they have a "digit map" to define which account is used depending on
>> leading numbers dialed?
>>
>> Can they strip and replace numbers i.e. I dail 01 the unit replaces
>> it with 00441?
>>
>> All questions I couldn't find any information about in the user guide
>> .pdf which would lead me to belive the above can't be done.

>
> I have recently been testing these devices in my lab with the support of
> the Camrivox. They have a very stripped down interface designed to allow
> the clueless to configure them. The features you mention are only
> configurable using the deployment tool Camrivox offer to ITSP's etc.


Ok for one of the clueless who has hide behind locked ATA for a number
of years would you care to offer an opinion as to how flexibile these
ATA are and quality of voice production?

>
> I had to ask Camrivox to add in the option to switch off/on Call Waiting
> while testing their Flexor 500 phone (which uses similar firmware) in
> our office.



Easy to get then to add features and I assume online firmware upgrade?

Cheers

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Old 03-21-2007, 11:37 AM
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Duncan MacCallum wrote:
> Jon Farmer wrote:


> Ok for one of the clueless who has hide behind locked ATA for a number
> of years would you care to offer an opinion as to how flexibile these
> ATA are and quality of voice production?


Err can you be a bit more specific?

>> I had to ask Camrivox to add in the option to switch off/on Call Waiting
>> while testing their Flexor 500 phone (which uses similar firmware) in
>> our office.


> Easy to get then to add features and I assume online firmware upgrade?


If you are important enough to them i guess :-). The management of the
company have told me they are always pleased to receive feedback on
their products and in my case they listen, thinking about it Elmeg
listen to me as well :-)

Regards

Jon


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Old 03-21-2007, 12:56 PM
Duncan MacCallum
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Jon Farmer wrote:
> Duncan MacCallum wrote:
>> Jon Farmer wrote:

>
>> Ok for one of the clueless who has hide behind locked ATA for a number
>> of years would you care to offer an opinion as to how flexibile these
>> ATA are and quality of voice production?

>
> Err can you be a bit more specific?


Ok, for the clueless does it offer more in terms of features and voice
quality than say the Linksys SPA1001?
Its the hopon/off and google talk intregration features that is
attracting me as major telcos with voice bundles are slowly chipping
away at the price advantages of voip (well they are for the clueless
anyway) :)

>
>>> I had to ask Camrivox to add in the option to switch off/on Call Waiting
>>> while testing their Flexor 500 phone (which uses similar firmware) in
>>> our office.

>
>> Easy to get them to add features and I assume online firmware upgrade?

>
> If you are important enough to them i guess :-). The management of the
> company have told me they are always pleased to receive feedback on
> their products and in my case they listen, thinking about it Elmeg
> listen to me as well :-)


So would buy one at a price point of 40ukp and what features do you
think the Flexor lacks (just to test how much Camrivox listened to you) :)

TIA
Duncan
PS I fell the need for uk.telecom.uk.clueless :):)

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Old 03-21-2007, 04:37 PM
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Duncan MacCallum wrote:

> Ok, for the clueless does it offer more in terms of features and voice
> quality than say the Linksys SPA1001?
> Its the hopon/off and google talk intregration features that is
> attracting me as major telcos with voice bundles are slowly chipping
> away at the price advantages of voip (well they are for the clueless
> anyway) :)


Well you basically configure SIP username/pass and register settings and
thats it.. not much more there.


> So would buy one at a price point of 40ukp and what features do you
> think the Flexor lacks (just to test how much Camrivox listened to you) :)


Well thats a bit of a pointless question to ask me as I am the Technical
Lead for a ITSP so have access to features the ordinary user wouldn't. I
dont know if I would buy one if I was one of the clueless.

If you want a very simple ATA in terms of configuration with not a lot
of stuff you could mess with to break your VoIP service then I would
probably recommend one.



Regards

Jon


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Old 03-21-2007, 06:04 PM
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"Pete @ www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
<gymratz@biggassmusclebuildingshop.gym> wrote in message
news:etr07j$pbl$1@registered.motzarella.org
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>
> > IMHO as soon as prices are mentioned it becomes nothing
> > more than an advertisement, which is definitely
> > off-charter.

>
> I know, but again, people discover google groups as it's
> there as a link from every google search page.


True, unfortunately.

> People that have only been around since the google days
> will most likely never have heard the term usenet let
> alone appreciate it was created with group charters and
> groups were created usually by an individual who wanted
> somewhere to discuss a favourite topic or hobby.


Some people are known to post that because they don't agree with charters
they will post what they like and even notably that there's nothing wrong
with spam..! Wonder if they'll continue to say it when their inbox is
flooded..?!

> Sadly Google is destroying traditional internet values
> and doesn't give a toss about it as long as they keep
> theri revenue flooding in.
> Why not post a link to the charter once a month so some
> of the newbies at least have a chance to avoid stepping
> in the sht with both feet.


No problem, here it is:

http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.telecom....k.telecom.voip

> ...... or we could just rip-em to bits for not complying
> and scare them off for ever.
> > ¬))


Sadly with one individual in particular (naming no names but let's see if
he jumps in with both feet..!) has been known to disagree vehemently..!

If I was in a position to start this group over again, I'd give serious
thought to making it a moderated one. I subscribe to several moderated
groups and am a moderator of one of them myself, the difference is
astounding.

Ivor



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Old 03-21-2007, 06:15 PM
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Jon Farmer wrote:
>
> If you want a very simple ATA in terms of configuration with not a lot
> of stuff you could mess with to break your VoIP service then I would
> probably recommend one.


Ok i'm listening...
Cheers


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Old 03-21-2007, 06:27 PM
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"Steve" <nospamm@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:56c8geF28pic9U1@mid.individual.net...


[snip]

> > Abuse reported to groups-abuse@google.com
> >
> >
> > Ivor

>
> And what do you think reporting the abuse is going to
> achieve? We live in 'dont give a f*ck britain'
> No one cares anymore.


I do. I will not stand by and just let it happen. Reporting it may achieve
something, it may not, but doing nothing implies agreement.

Ivor



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Old 03-22-2007, 06:00 PM
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:10:36 +0000, "Pete @ www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
<gymratz@biggassmusclebuildingshop.gym> wrote:

>Agreed, but sometimes if somone has a product they are so enthusiastic
>about, it's sometimes difficult for them to draw the line between
>general interest and over-enthusiasm which gets the poster labelled as
>an undesirable spammer.


Agreed, however the postings from this individual are not new and
follow on from others of his in the same vein and follow a pattern of
promoting his own products and services.


Roger.


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