I'm considering them for BUSINESS use, as direct experience of both VoIPtalk
and Sipgate appear to be utter shit, alot of the time, both in uptime and
connectivity quality.
talk44.com wrote:
> I'm considering them for BUSINESS use, as direct experience of both VoIPtalk
> and Sipgate appear to be utter shit, alot of the time, both in uptime and
> connectivity quality.
All of our outbound calls go through Gradwell. Soonish, all our inbound
calls will also go through gradwell.
This is for a busy office with 6 people working. We are happy.
But remember, your voip connection is only as good as your network
connection is.
Tim wrote:
> talk44.com wrote:
>> I'm considering them for BUSINESS use, as direct experience of both VoIPtalk
>> and Sipgate appear to be utter shit, alot of the time, both in uptime and
>> connectivity quality.
>
> All of our outbound calls go through Gradwell. Soonish, all our inbound
> calls will also go through gradwell.
>
> This is for a busy office with 6 people working. We are happy.
>
> But remember, your voip connection is only as good as your network
> connection is.
>
I've got a site (small office and factory , 4-5 people in office and 4-5
people in factory), 12 handsets all outbound with gradwell majority of
inbound with gradwell (0800 inbound with voiptalk, 2 BT lines and a
Bulldog line).
I've used Gradwell as an incoming Fax service? (didn't go very well, but
I'm sure if I persued it they'd have found out what the trouble was).
I've used them for an incoming Spanish number (sound quality was
excellent, no dropped calls).
I've had out main incoming number stop working three times soon after
porting it over to them (twice was not their fault and once was a DB
crash that they had). After calling them the line was back working
within the hour (within 5 minutes on one occasion).
For outgoing and incoming I use trunked IAX2 and mostly G.729a (G.711u
for fax).
The biggest problem I've had lately is with my ADSL provider, dropping
off the service 4-5 times a day (hopefully now fixed, but worth checking
the quality of your connection first).
At home I use them for outgoing mobile calls and incoming on what was
our second BT line (not a single dropped call). Other calls at home go
through voip.co.uk.
talk44.com wrote:
> I'm considering them for BUSINESS use, as direct experience of both VoIPtalk
> and Sipgate appear to be utter shit, alot of the time, both in uptime and
> connectivity quality.
>
Sipgate seem to be fine for light use, but probably wouldn't put them in
an office.
What problems were you having with voiptalk? (other than their
unfriendly and inflexible website).
"talk44.com" <dea.x77@talk44.com> wrote in message
news:ehicii$k67$1@posting.glorb.com
> I'm considering them for BUSINESS use, as direct
> experience of both VoIPtalk and Sipgate appear to be
> utter shit, alot of the time, both in uptime and
> connectivity quality.
>
> Thanks
Not had any outages here on Sipgate for some months now. Gradwell are
excellent, well recommended, although watch that the prices on their
website are ex-VAT.
<M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:28:13 +0100, Cue Ivor < Þ @ Þ >
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:29:02 +0100, talk44.com wrote:
> >
> > > I'm considering them for BUSINESS use, as direct
> > > experience of both VoIPtalk and Sipgate appear to be
> > > utter shit, alot of the time, both in uptime and
> > > connectivity quality.
> >
> > Ivor will be round in a jiffy putting you right about
> > Sipgate.
> And of course giving the usual bull shit about how he
> never has any problems with them I honestly don't think
> Ivor would know good service if he fell over it .
Yawn.
And I *haven't* had any problems recently, I'm not going to lie and say I
have just to keep you happy, Ron.
"Cue Ivor" <"=?x-user-defined?Q? Þ @ Þ ?="> wrote in
message news:cogpj2lp12so39nkjv5ajb0qac5g3vo5p1@4ax.com
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:29:02 +0100, talk44.com wrote:
>
> > I'm considering them for BUSINESS use, as direct
> > experience of both VoIPtalk and Sipgate appear to be
> > utter shit, alot of the time, both in uptime and
> > connectivity quality.
>
> Ivor will be round in a jiffy putting you right about
> Sipgate.
I'm not going to lie and say I've had bad/no service when I haven't, just
to keep idiots like Ron Chew happy.
BTW what's wrong with posting using your real name, are you trying to hide
something..?
<M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:p6jpj25tgmbakk6pm685tqu4q2knl269n8@4ax.com
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:29:02 +0100, "talk44.com"
> <dea.x77@talk44.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm considering them for BUSINESS use, as direct
> > experience of both VoIPtalk and Sipgate appear to be
> > utter shit,
> What a good description of them both seems I am not the
> only one that recognizes shit when he sees it .
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "talk44.com" <dea.x77@talk44.com> wrote in message
> news:ehicii$k67$1@posting.glorb.com
>> I'm considering them for BUSINESS use, as direct
>> experience of both VoIPtalk and Sipgate appear to be
>> utter shit, alot of the time, both in uptime and
>> connectivity quality.
>>
>> Thanks
>
> Not had any outages here on Sipgate for some months now. Gradwell are
> excellent, well recommended, although watch that the prices on their
> website are ex-VAT.
>
> Ivor
>
Also, gradwell are the only voip company I can think of that don't offer
free calls if you are calling from one customer to another.
M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:28:13 +0100, Cue Ivor < Þ @ Þ > wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:29:02 +0100, talk44.com wrote:
>>
>>> I'm considering them for BUSINESS use, as direct experience of both VoIPtalk
>>> and Sipgate appear to be utter shit, alot of the time, both in uptime and
>>> connectivity quality.
>> Ivor will be round in a jiffy putting you right about Sipgate.
> And of course giving the usual bull shit about how he never has any
> problems with them I honestly don't think Ivor would know good service
> if he fell over it .
Why is it necessary for every thread to be hijacked by you and/or Ivor
for the purposes of your petty vendetta. Other people would prefer to
read the considered comments of other users in a potentially useful
thread such as this without all this too often repeated rubbish.
On 2006-10-23, Thomas Kenyon <tom@art-it-services.co.uk> wrote:
> Also, gradwell are the only voip company I can think of that don't offer
> free calls if you are calling from one customer to another.
>
> (Que army of people with more providers).
I may be misunderstanding you but there are a couple of references to
VoIP to VoIP calls being free on
"John P" <john@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:453ce5b8$0$21355$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk
[snip]
> Why is it necessary for every thread to be hijacked by
> you and/or Ivor for the purposes of your petty vendetta.
> Other people would prefer to read the considered comments
> of other users in a potentially useful thread such as
> this without all this too often repeated rubbish.
So would I John, but he starts it. I will *not* stand by and be insulted
without responding.
"Cue Ivor" <"=?x-user-defined?Q? Þ @ Þ ?="> wrote in
message news:ctnpj25mp4u94a2dn1laf1vhvrpaisbih8@4ax.com
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:46:42 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
>
> > BTW what's wrong with posting using your real name, are
> > you trying to hide something..?
>
> Why? Does it matter? If you're so keen to be open, why
> don't you post using real name, real email address,
> postal address and telephone number - or are you trying
> to hide something?
I don't publish address details etc. for obvious reasons, but I do use my
real name, it is important. It proves you are serious.
> Personally I couldn't care a Japanese monkey's curly
> toenails as to what name anyone uses here.
<M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:m3rpj2hmrt7tpa7npncohguvpq6j8a1vb0@4ax.com
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:44:06 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
[snip]
> > Not had any outages here on Sipgate for some months
> > now. Gradwell are excellent, well recommended, although
> > watch that the prices on their website are ex-VAT.
>
> God it all comes down to money with you Ivor quality just
> does not seem to matter.
I was merely advising the OP that Gradwell's site does not make it very
clear that prices are ex-VAT. This could matter to him. Their quality is
excellent, BTW.
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "John P" <john@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:453ce5b8$0$21355$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk
>
> [snip]
>
>> Why is it necessary for every thread to be hijacked by
>> you and/or Ivor for the purposes of your petty vendetta.
>> Other people would prefer to read the considered comments
>> of other users in a potentially useful thread such as
>> this without all this too often repeated rubbish.
>
> So would I John, but he starts it. I will *not* stand by and be insulted
> without responding.
>
> Ivor
>
>
So why did you just post "Sshh..! You've got to be careful saying
things like that on here..! Dexter
will think you work for them..!" to another thread. ?
Brian wrote:
> On 2006-10-23, Thomas Kenyon <tom@art-it-services.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Also, gradwell are the only voip company I can think of that don't offer
>> free calls if you are calling from one customer to another.
>>
>> (Que army of people with more providers).
>
> I may be misunderstanding you but there are a couple of references to
> VoIP to VoIP calls being free on
>
> http://www.gradwell.com/voip/overview.php
>
Very sorry, I just expected to see it on their pricing pages.
"John P" <john@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:453cf54b$0$1395$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "John P" <john@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > news:453ce5b8$0$21355$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > Why is it necessary for every thread to be hijacked by
> > > you and/or Ivor for the purposes of your petty
> > > vendetta. Other people would prefer to read the
> > > considered comments of other users in a potentially
> > > useful thread such as this without all this too often
> > > repeated rubbish.
> >
> > So would I John, but he starts it. I will *not* stand
> > by and be insulted without responding.
> >
> > Ivor
> >
> >
> So why did you just post "Sshh..! You've got to be
> careful saying things like that on here..! Dexter
> will think you work for them..!" to another thread. ?
Sorry, sometimes I get carried away..! It won't happen again...
On 2006-10-23, Thomas Kenyon <tom@art-it-services.co.uk> wrote:
> Brian wrote:
>> On 2006-10-23, Thomas Kenyon <tom@art-it-services.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, gradwell are the only voip company I can think of that don't offer
>>> free calls if you are calling from one customer to another.
>>>
>>> (Que army of people with more providers).
>>
>> I may be misunderstanding you but there are a couple of references to
>> VoIP to VoIP calls being free on
>>
>> http://www.gradwell.com/voip/overview.php
>>
> Very sorry, I just expected to see it on their pricing pages.
No problem. It was simply that the information you provide is generally
accurate but I was a little nonplussed by what you said in this case.
>
> Why is it necessary for every thread to be hijacked by you and/or Ivor for
> the purposes of your petty vendetta. Other people would prefer to read the
> considered comments of other users in a potentially useful thread such as
> this without all this too often repeated rubbish.
>
> JP
What? uk.telecom.voip without the occasional Ron vs. Ivor flame?
Doesn't bare thinking about!
--
"Tom" <Á@> wrote in message
news:n43qj2t5gbfeiqandivh613c9bl9bqgm67@4ax.com
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 19:17:18 +0100, Graham said in article
> <ehj0v2$r1b$1@news.datemas.de>:
>
> > What? uk.telecom.voip without the occasional Ron vs.
> > Ivor flame? Doesn't bare thinking about!
>
> I think these two sumo wrestlers should "bare" all and
> arrange a public bout out in the Falklands to sort out
> their differences. They can tell us who won after they
> return home in a few months' time.
I'm a tad overweight, but I'm not that fat..!
However, I'm game for a laugh, what about you, Ron..?!
Although I doubt it would make a difference in his case, even if I beat
him he would never shut up rubbishing a company he isn't even a customer
of any more.
"Cue Ivor" <"=?x-user-defined?Q? Þ @ Þ ?="> wrote in
message news:fchrj2hhvrnu7eg89m8rsufsrsbbf1oqfd@4ax.com
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:37:43 +0100, Ifan Jones wrote:
>
> > "Cue Ivor" <"=?x-user-defined?Q? Þ @ Þ ?="> wrote in
> > message news:ctnpj25mp4u94a2dn1laf1vhvrpaisbih8@4ax.com
>
> > > Personally I couldn't care a Japanese monkey's curly
> > > toenails as to what name anyone uses here.
> >
> > Nor could I, as long as it's their real one.
>
> How do I know your name is real, Ifan?
Ivor Jones wrote:
> <M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:m3rpj2hmrt7tpa7npncohguvpq6j8a1vb0@4ax.com
> > On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:44:06 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> > <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > > Not had any outages here on Sipgate for some months
> > > now. Gradwell are excellent, well recommended, although
> > > watch that the prices on their website are ex-VAT.
> >
> > God it all comes down to money with you Ivor quality just
> > does not seem to matter.
>
> I was merely advising the OP that Gradwell's site does not make it very
> clear that prices are ex-VAT. This could matter to him. Their quality is
> excellent, BTW.
>
> Ivor
The Quality is excellent and reliable. As to prices being displayed as
non VAT, Its amed at Business use so you would expect it to be
displayed non VAT, The OP wont be paying VAT on the calls as he stated
it was for BUSINESS use, so wants to see the true cost .
Thomas Kenyon wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>> "talk44.com" <dea.x77@talk44.com> wrote in message
>> news:ehicii$k67$1@posting.glorb.com
>>> I'm considering them for BUSINESS use, as direct
>>> experience of both VoIPtalk and Sipgate appear to be
>>> utter shit, alot of the time, both in uptime and
>>> connectivity quality.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> Not had any outages here on Sipgate for some months now. Gradwell are
>> excellent, well recommended, although watch that the prices on their
>> website are ex-VAT.
>>
>> Ivor
>>
> Also, gradwell are the only voip company I can think of that don't offer
> free calls if you are calling from one customer to another.
>
that actually depends on how the call goes through our network - and
increasingly we're trying to make calls seamlessly free.
Just how **good** are Gradwell? 
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