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Old 06-28-2008, 08:13 AM
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Default Linux voip client for Asus EEE PC?

I've just bought an ASUS EEE PC900
(at http://eeepc.asus.com/global/900.htm for the uninitiated) which
represents my very first foray into Linux territory and I'm struggling a
bit. I want to set it up for Voip, and don't know where to start in
terms of looking for a client to install. I feel a bit like my old mum
must have felt when she first started using a computer!

This new machine is by definition pretty low-spec, and runs "GNU Linux"
AFAICS - is there any particular client recommended, in terms of
compatibility and ease of setup / use?

I'm pretty new to Voip anyway, but used to run X-lite with Sipgate
service on my previous Windows laptop without problems.

Can't help feeling I'm going to have to install XP on the machine -
anyone prove me wrong? ;-)

David

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Old 06-28-2008, 09:16 AM
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"Lobster" <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:vwl9k.129136$NN3.23163@newsfe08.ams2...
> I've just bought an ASUS EEE PC900
> (at http://eeepc.asus.com/global/900.htm for the uninitiated) which
> represents my very first foray into Linux territory and I'm struggling a
> bit. I want to set it up for Voip, and don't know where to start in terms
> of looking for a client to install. I feel a bit like my old mum must
> have felt when she first started using a computer!
>
> This new machine is by definition pretty low-spec, and runs "GNU Linux"
> AFAICS - is there any particular client recommended, in terms of
> compatibility and ease of setup / use?
>
> I'm pretty new to Voip anyway, but used to run X-lite with Sipgate service
> on my previous Windows laptop without problems.



A comprehensive list of what's available here:
http://www.voipnow.org/2008/06/the-d...nux-users.html


> Can't help feeling I'm going to have to install XP on the machine - anyone
> prove me wrong? ;-)



Eueuwwww... Wash your mouth out this instant!



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Old 06-28-2008, 09:34 AM
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On 2008-06-28, Lobster <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I've just bought an ASUS EEE PC900
> (at http://eeepc.asus.com/global/900.htm for the uninitiated) which
> represents my very first foray into Linux territory and I'm struggling a
> bit. I want to set it up for Voip, and don't know where to start in
> terms of looking for a client to install. I feel a bit like my old mum
> must have felt when she first started using a computer!
>
> This new machine is by definition pretty low-spec, and runs "GNU Linux"
> AFAICS - is there any particular client recommended, in terms of
> compatibility and ease of setup / use?
>
> I'm pretty new to Voip anyway, but used to run X-lite with Sipgate
> service on my previous Windows laptop without problems.
>
> Can't help feeling I'm going to have to install XP on the machine -
> anyone prove me wrong? ;-)


I use Ekiga on my Linux laptop. I've not tried using it directly with
Sipgate (it currently logs into my Trixbox - with dodgy cron job
removed) but has logged on to Tesco Internet Phone and voipcheap.com
(Betamax).

It's at http://www.ekiga.org/ - indeed, it's possible the package
management software on the Eee already knows about it and will install
it upon request. (It's part of the standard fit for Fedora.)

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Old 06-28-2008, 09:40 AM
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Lobster wrote:
> I've just bought an ASUS EEE PC900
> (at http://eeepc.asus.com/global/900.htm for the uninitiated) which
> represents my very first foray into Linux territory and I'm struggling a
> bit. I want to set it up for Voip, and don't know where to start in
> terms of looking for a client to install. I feel a bit like my old mum
> must have felt when she first started using a computer!
>
> This new machine is by definition pretty low-spec, and runs "GNU Linux"
> AFAICS - is there any particular client recommended, in terms of
> compatibility and ease of setup / use?
>
> I'm pretty new to Voip anyway, but used to run X-lite with Sipgate
> service on my previous Windows laptop without problems.


I haven't managed to get X-lite to work on my eecpc700.

Someone has just sent me instructions on how to install Wengophone. I'll
install it this week end and get back to you if it works
(Wengo have changed track from their original VOIP activity, and are no
longer giving user support. But it still works and you can still
download their client from their website)

There is also Twinkle, which should self-install using the EEEPC's
Synaptic programme
>
> Can't help feeling I'm going to have to install XP on the machine -
> anyone prove me wrong? ;-)
>

Bloatware takes away the whole point of the eeeeee


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Old 06-28-2008, 11:18 AM
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:40:20 +0200, Salvador Freemanson
<spam@gohome.com> wrote:

>Lobster wrote:
>> I've just bought an ASUS EEE PC900
>> (at http://eeepc.asus.com/global/900.htm for the uninitiated) which
>> represents my very first foray into Linux territory and I'm struggling a
>> bit. I want to set it up for Voip, and don't know where to start in
>> terms of looking for a client to install. I feel a bit like my old mum
>> must have felt when she first started using a computer!
>>
>> This new machine is by definition pretty low-spec, and runs "GNU Linux"
>> AFAICS - is there any particular client recommended, in terms of
>> compatibility and ease of setup / use?
>>
>> I'm pretty new to Voip anyway, but used to run X-lite with Sipgate
>> service on my previous Windows laptop without problems.

>
>I haven't managed to get X-lite to work on my eecpc700.
>
>Someone has just sent me instructions on how to install Wengophone. I'll
>install it this week end and get back to you if it works
>(Wengo have changed track from their original VOIP activity, and are no
>longer giving user support. But it still works and you can still
>download their client from their website)
>
>There is also Twinkle, which should self-install using the EEEPC's
>Synaptic programme
>>
>> Can't help feeling I'm going to have to install XP on the machine -
>> anyone prove me wrong? ;-)
>>

>Bloatware takes away the whole point of the eeeeee

I set up a soft phone on a friend's Eee. I tried several but the best
one was SJphone. I got that to work with Voxalot no problems. You have
to make a few adjustments to the settings on the SJphone client to
improve the voice quality. I can't remember what, specifically, those
adjustments were and not having the Eee here (as it isn't mine) I
can't investigate.

I was planning to get an Eee myself but I have waited to see what the
competition is. The Acer 'Aspire One' looks good except for the low
battery life (2hrs max) and the reported 0.3Mpixel camera - though,
unless it has changed, was reported as 1.3Mpixel on cnet.co.uk.
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Old 06-28-2008, 11:21 AM
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:18:48 GMT, Brian A
<no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:40:20 +0200, Salvador Freemanson
><spam@gohome.com> wrote:
>
>>Lobster wrote:
>>> I've just bought an ASUS EEE PC900
>>> (at http://eeepc.asus.com/global/900.htm for the uninitiated) which
>>> represents my very first foray into Linux territory and I'm struggling a
>>> bit. I want to set it up for Voip, and don't know where to start in
>>> terms of looking for a client to install. I feel a bit like my old mum
>>> must have felt when she first started using a computer!
>>>
>>> This new machine is by definition pretty low-spec, and runs "GNU Linux"
>>> AFAICS - is there any particular client recommended, in terms of
>>> compatibility and ease of setup / use?
>>>
>>> I'm pretty new to Voip anyway, but used to run X-lite with Sipgate
>>> service on my previous Windows laptop without problems.

>>
>>I haven't managed to get X-lite to work on my eecpc700.
>>
>>Someone has just sent me instructions on how to install Wengophone. I'll
>>install it this week end and get back to you if it works
>>(Wengo have changed track from their original VOIP activity, and are no
>>longer giving user support. But it still works and you can still
>>download their client from their website)
>>
>>There is also Twinkle, which should self-install using the EEEPC's
>>Synaptic programme
>>>
>>> Can't help feeling I'm going to have to install XP on the machine -
>>> anyone prove me wrong? ;-)
>>>

>>Bloatware takes away the whole point of the eeeeee

>I set up a soft phone on a friend's Eee. I tried several but the best
>one was SJphone. I got that to work with Voxalot no problems. You have
>to make a few adjustments to the settings on the SJphone client to
>improve the voice quality. I can't remember what, specifically, those
>adjustments were and not having the Eee here (as it isn't mine) I
>can't investigate.

Just to follow up, though not directly concerning your post, I also
installed an alternative MSN client. I think it is called aMSN. It is
MUCH better than the installed messenger (pidgin ?).




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Old 06-28-2008, 01:45 PM
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In article <vwl9k.129136$NN3.23163@newsfe08.ams2>,
Lobster <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I've just bought an ASUS EEE PC900
>(at http://eeepc.asus.com/global/900.htm for the uninitiated) which
>represents my very first foray into Linux territory and I'm struggling a
>bit. I want to set it up for Voip, and don't know where to start in
>terms of looking for a client to install. I feel a bit like my old mum
>must have felt when she first started using a computer!
>
>This new machine is by definition pretty low-spec, and runs "GNU Linux"
>AFAICS - is there any particular client recommended, in terms of
>compatibility and ease of setup / use?
>
>I'm pretty new to Voip anyway, but used to run X-lite with Sipgate
>service on my previous Windows laptop without problems.
>
>Can't help feeling I'm going to have to install XP on the machine -
>anyone prove me wrong? ;-)


Zoiper

http://www.zoiper.com/free.php

Not open source, but free for what you need. (Cross platform too, so if
there's a group of you on XP/Mac/Linux then you can all use the same
"look and feel" application...

If you want open source then there's Ekiga, but I find that very clunky,
bloated and just over the top...

X-Lite also ought to work, and I find that OK, but fiddly to configure.

One advantage of Zoiper is that it will talk IAX as well as SIP, so if
your provider offers IAX then use that if you can as it's much easier to
get working through NAT firewalls, etc.

Gordon

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Old 06-28-2008, 02:51 PM
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Gordon Henderson wrote:
> In article <vwl9k.129136$NN3.23163@newsfe08.ams2>,
> Lobster <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I've just bought an ASUS EEE PC900
>> (at http://eeepc.asus.com/global/900.htm for the uninitiated) which
>> represents my very first foray into Linux territory and I'm struggling a
>> bit. I want to set it up for Voip, and don't know where to start in
>> terms of looking for a client to install. I feel a bit like my old mum
>> must have felt when she first started using a computer!
>>
>> This new machine is by definition pretty low-spec, and runs "GNU Linux"
>> AFAICS - is there any particular client recommended, in terms of
>> compatibility and ease of setup / use?
>>
>> I'm pretty new to Voip anyway, but used to run X-lite with Sipgate
>> service on my previous Windows laptop without problems.
>>
>> Can't help feeling I'm going to have to install XP on the machine -
>> anyone prove me wrong? ;-)

>
> Zoiper
>
> http://www.zoiper.com/free.php
>
> Not open source, but free for what you need. (Cross platform too, so if
> there's a group of you on XP/Mac/Linux then you can all use the same
> "look and feel" application...
>
> If you want open source then there's Ekiga, but I find that very clunky,
> bloated and just over the top...
>
> X-Lite also ought to work, and I find that OK, but fiddly to configure.


Thanks for the responses so far...

As I said - total newbie at Linux here: the only version of x-lite that
I've found is for XP... are you saying you can install that on a Linux
machine and I don't need a special 'for Linux' version? X-lite would
certainly be my preference if poss.

David

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Old 06-28-2008, 03:19 PM
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On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 14:51:28 +0100, Lobster
<davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Gordon Henderson wrote:
>> In article <vwl9k.129136$NN3.23163@newsfe08.ams2>,
>> Lobster <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I've just bought an ASUS EEE PC900
>>> (at http://eeepc.asus.com/global/900.htm for the uninitiated) which
>>> represents my very first foray into Linux territory and I'm struggling a
>>> bit. I want to set it up for Voip, and don't know where to start in
>>> terms of looking for a client to install. I feel a bit like my old mum
>>> must have felt when she first started using a computer!
>>>
>>> This new machine is by definition pretty low-spec, and runs "GNU Linux"
>>> AFAICS - is there any particular client recommended, in terms of
>>> compatibility and ease of setup / use?
>>>
>>> I'm pretty new to Voip anyway, but used to run X-lite with Sipgate
>>> service on my previous Windows laptop without problems.
>>>
>>> Can't help feeling I'm going to have to install XP on the machine -
>>> anyone prove me wrong? ;-)

>>
>> Zoiper
>>
>> http://www.zoiper.com/free.php
>>
>> Not open source, but free for what you need. (Cross platform too, so if
>> there's a group of you on XP/Mac/Linux then you can all use the same
>> "look and feel" application...
>>
>> If you want open source then there's Ekiga, but I find that very clunky,
>> bloated and just over the top...
>>
>> X-Lite also ought to work, and I find that OK, but fiddly to configure.

>
>Thanks for the responses so far...
>
>As I said - total newbie at Linux here: the only version of x-lite that
>I've found is for XP... are you saying you can install that on a Linux
>machine and I don't need a special 'for Linux' version? X-lite would
>certainly be my preference if poss.

There is a version of x-lite for linux. That was one of the clients
that I tried. I can't remember just what it was but I did get a
problem with it. I tried Twinkle also.

I did a quick search on Google. This is probably where I got x-lite
from.
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Commu...ite-5595.shtml
However, I would go for SJphone.
http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html

I forgot to say that I installed Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon (7.10?) on the
Eee first as it made installation of applications easier. Many
applications can simply be installed automatically for you. It is
worth trying Ubuntu. The latest version is 'Hardy Heron'.
However, applications that are not in the repository will require a
bit of technical knowledge to install. You will need, in some cases,
to get the release notes or search for info. on how to do the
installation.

It is worth checking out Youtube. There are lots of videos on there
about the Eee showing hardware add-ons among other things.

One of the problems I got generally with the Eee is that, when
installing or setting up some applications, I couldn't get to some of
the controls because the windows were too big for the screen. This was
after I had made adjustments to be able to move the windows above the
top of the screen.
I didn't try it but one idea I had was that might be possible
circumvent this problem by using the remote desktop application ( I
can't remember the name of it). It is built into Gutsy, it is easy to
get it working and it works well. That way I might then be able to use
another linux machine to set up the applications.





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Old 06-28-2008, 04:13 PM
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In article <ylr9k.25494$AH5.1648@newsfe09.ams2>,
Lobster <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Gordon Henderson wrote:
>> In article <vwl9k.129136$NN3.23163@newsfe08.ams2>,
>> Lobster <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> I've just bought an ASUS EEE PC900
>>> (at http://eeepc.asus.com/global/900.htm for the uninitiated) which
>>> represents my very first foray into Linux territory and I'm struggling a
>>> bit. I want to set it up for Voip, and don't know where to start in
>>> terms of looking for a client to install. I feel a bit like my old mum
>>> must have felt when she first started using a computer!
>>>
>>> This new machine is by definition pretty low-spec, and runs "GNU Linux"
>>> AFAICS - is there any particular client recommended, in terms of
>>> compatibility and ease of setup / use?
>>>
>>> I'm pretty new to Voip anyway, but used to run X-lite with Sipgate
>>> service on my previous Windows laptop without problems.
>>>
>>> Can't help feeling I'm going to have to install XP on the machine -
>>> anyone prove me wrong? ;-)

>>
>> Zoiper
>>
>> http://www.zoiper.com/free.php
>>
>> Not open source, but free for what you need. (Cross platform too, so if
>> there's a group of you on XP/Mac/Linux then you can all use the same
>> "look and feel" application...
>>
>> If you want open source then there's Ekiga, but I find that very clunky,
>> bloated and just over the top...
>>
>> X-Lite also ought to work, and I find that OK, but fiddly to configure.

>
>Thanks for the responses so far...
>
>As I said - total newbie at Linux here: the only version of x-lite that
>I've found is for XP... are you saying you can install that on a Linux
>machine and I don't need a special 'for Linux' version? X-lite would
>certainly be my preference if poss.


I was saying that Zoiper is cross platform, however last time I looked,
x-lite was too:

http://www.counterpath.com/x-lite-downloadsurvey.html

Looks like they want your name & email address now...

Gordon

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Old 06-28-2008, 11:27 PM
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Salvador Freemanson <spam@gohome.com> wrote:
> There is also Twinkle, which should self-install using the EEEPC's
> Synaptic programme


I've been using Twinkle quite happily on Linux for a year or two. Copes
quite happily with Sipgate, Finarea clones and various other accounts. I
couldn't get Ekiga to work for some reason (that I can't remember, possibly
to do with being behind NAT), but Twinkle is fine.

Theo

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Old 06-28-2008, 11:35 PM
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Lobster wrote:

> I've just bought an ASUS EEE PC900
> (at http://eeepc.asus.com/global/900.htm for the uninitiated) which
> represents my very first foray into Linux territory and I'm struggling a
> bit. I want to set it up for Voip, and don't know where to start in
> terms of looking for a client to install. I feel a bit like my old mum
> must have felt when she first started using a computer!
>
> This new machine is by definition pretty low-spec, and runs "GNU Linux"
> AFAICS - is there any particular client recommended, in terms of
> compatibility and ease of setup / use?
>
> I'm pretty new to Voip anyway, but used to run X-lite with Sipgate
> service on my previous Windows laptop without problems.
>
> Can't help feeling I'm going to have to install XP on the machine -
> anyone prove me wrong? ;-)
>
> David


Kphone can be installed via Synaptic and works for outgoing calls. I'm not
getting any indication (screen or tone) for incoming calls but that could
be a router port forwarding problem. In my case, I don't need to receive
calls on the eee.

When I first installed kphone, it was unusable due to incoming audio
breaking up. Somewhere along the line, a software update fixed things. I
think it was one of the eee-specific ones, perhaps Skype or web-radio.
Looks like the problem was in the audio drivers rather than in kphone:
other sip clients may have the same problem.

I have kphone set to use OSS and read/write to /dev/dsp1 with a USB handset.
Use /dev/dsp for the internal sound chip. The breakup problem affected
both. If you encounter it (with kphone, x-lite or whatever), install all
the audio-related updates.

If you're using the standard eee desktop (as I am), I don't know of any way
to install new apps to start from it. I start kphone with ctrl-alt-t for a
console terminal and type "kphone".

Regarding installing XP - I wouldn't do it since Linux is far more powerful
and flexible though there is a steep learning curve (if much less than it
used to be) before you can take advantage of it. If you have more than one
Linux machine, look at ssh, sshfs and krdc when on the move. You soon won't
be able to live without them.

Good luck.

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Old 06-29-2008, 10:46 AM
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Steve Hayes wrote:

> Regarding installing XP - I wouldn't do it since Linux is far more powerful
> and flexible though there is a steep learning curve (if much less than it
> used to be) before you can take advantage of it. If you have more than one
> Linux machine, look at ssh, sshfs and krdc when on the move. You soon won't
> be able to live without them.


Mm, every time I mention swapping to XP I get this response! Not
surprised, and TBH if this was my toy I'd probably bite the bullet and
keep Linux, however I bought it for SWMBO, who can speak XP reasonably
well, but has no interest in computers per se other than what she can
get out of them and would not be inclined to learn a new OS.

The ability to do the same things on the portable PC, in the same way as
on the home desktop, does have a big pull.

David

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Old 06-29-2008, 12:45 PM
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:46:48 +0100, Lobster
<davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Steve Hayes wrote:
>
>> Regarding installing XP - I wouldn't do it since Linux is far more powerful
>> and flexible though there is a steep learning curve (if much less than it
>> used to be) before you can take advantage of it. If you have more than one
>> Linux machine, look at ssh, sshfs and krdc when on the move. You soon won't
>> be able to live without them.

>
>Mm, every time I mention swapping to XP I get this response! Not
>surprised, and TBH if this was my toy I'd probably bite the bullet and
>keep Linux, however I bought it for SWMBO, who can speak XP reasonably
>well, but has no interest in computers per se other than what she can
>get out of them and would not be inclined to learn a new OS.
>
>The ability to do the same things on the portable PC, in the same way as
>on the home desktop, does have a big pull.
>
>David

I can see what you mean about uniformity of desktops but there are
disadvantages to XP, the most prominent has to be that it is likely to
be sluggish when compared to Linux.
I wouldn't stick with the Xandros disto though. I'd install the latest
version of Ubuntu. If you've not seen that then you won't be able to
fully appreciate what linux can offer you.
It is easy to install Ubuntu but do find a 'how to' for the Eee. The
main difference, as compared to a standard install, is that you don't
want to have a swap file. You will need to supply a username and
password during installation. If, later, you wish to omit the login
screen you can do that but do make note of your login details as,
unlike windows, Linux won't allow installs of anything without your
permission.
Once you have Ubuntu installed it is very easy to install lots of
applications. Just go to the first menu on the left, scroll to the
bottom, then find the type of application you are looking for. You are
best to choose from the approved list as these are assured to work
without any problems. Having said all that there are many
applications, such as 'Open Office' - compatible with MS 'Word',
Firefox etc. already installed.
For email I'd recommend installing Mozilla 'Thunderbird' though there
is an email client already installed.
For the standard needs of browsing, emailing, word processing, picture
managing, instant messaging (install 'aMSN') and web browsing, amongst
other things, there is really no need at all to use windows - Ubuntu
has all you'll need.
The only problem I have with Ubuntu is the poor support for interface
with mobile phones. However that is really a failing of manufacturers
such as Nokia who should, IMO, have a Linux version of PC Suite.
http://www.ubuntu.com/

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Old 06-29-2008, 09:25 PM
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Mark wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:13:32 +0100, Lobster
> <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've just bought an ASUS EEE PC900
>> (at http://eeepc.asus.com/global/900.htm for the uninitiated) which
>> represents my very first foray into Linux territory and I'm struggling a
>> bit. I want to set it up for Voip, and don't know where to start in
>> terms of looking for a client to install. I feel a bit like my old mum
>> must have felt when she first started using a computer!
>>
>> This new machine is by definition pretty low-spec, and runs "GNU Linux"
>> AFAICS - is there any particular client recommended, in terms of
>> compatibility and ease of setup / use?
>>
>> I'm pretty new to Voip anyway, but used to run X-lite with Sipgate
>> service on my previous Windows laptop without problems.
>>
>> Can't help feeling I'm going to have to install XP on the machine -
>> anyone prove me wrong? ;-)

>
> IME, X-Lite on a EEEPC is a total basket case. After literally days
> trying everything I could find, and more mods/installs than I could
> keep track of, I gave up. Life is too short.
>
> Zoiper works exactly as it should from the word go and I have stuck
> with that.


Well, have gone with Zoiper if only because it seemed to pull the most
votes here!

I'm really struggling to get my head round this Linux thingy though, and
suspect that my knowledge/expertise on it is so low I just can't find
the info I need.

I've downloaded the .tar installation file, clicked on it, and it seemed
to install and run itself, whereupon I entered my personal settings (for
Sipgate). I was then able to make a phone call (more of that below).
However, when I closed down Zoiper, it seemed to vanish completely -
whered'it go? I eventually opened the .tar file again (to re-install
it?) which I did (I think) and found my settings already in place.
What's going on?

Secondly, when I was talking over Zoiper, the sound quality was dreadful
- breaking up very badly in both directions. On a second laptop
side-by-side running XP x-lite, calling the same number, the sound was
fine. How do I solve that one?

Thanks
David






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Old 06-30-2008, 08:58 AM
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In article <qkvf645c39c6bepi5lviem197r1ruu057n@4ax.com>,
Mark <markincambs@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:25:51 +0100, Lobster
><davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>[snip]
>
>>
>>I've downloaded the .tar installation file, clicked on it, and it seemed
>>to install and run itself, whereupon I entered my personal settings (for
>>Sipgate). I was then able to make a phone call (more of that below).
>>However, when I closed down Zoiper, it seemed to vanish completely -
>>whered'it go? I eventually opened the .tar file again (to re-install
>>it?) which I did (I think) and found my settings already in place.
>>What's going on?

>
>I run it from a command window, opened with CTRL-ALT-T.
>In my case it's been copied to /opt/zoiper, so I just type ./zoiper
>from that directory which has the executable file in it.
>
>If it's on the disk you can locate it by typing this into the command
>window:
>
>cd / ; find | grep zoiper


From the "there's more than one way to do it" department:

locate zoiper
or
find / -name zoiper

Gordon


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cybuerke <cybuerke@plmgmail.com> wrote:


> A comprehensive list of what's available here:
> http://www.voipnow.org/2008/06/the-d...nux-users.html


On the "client" side this list isn't comprehensive. Obvious omissions
being zoiper and kiax.

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Old 06-30-2008, 11:17 AM
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:31:01 +0100, Mark <markincambs@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:25:51 +0100, Lobster
><davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>[snip]
>
>>
>>I've downloaded the .tar installation file, clicked on it, and it seemed
>>to install and run itself, whereupon I entered my personal settings (for
>>Sipgate). I was then able to make a phone call (more of that below).
>>However, when I closed down Zoiper, it seemed to vanish completely -
>>whered'it go? I eventually opened the .tar file again (to re-install
>>it?) which I did (I think) and found my settings already in place.
>>What's going on?

>
>I run it from a command window, opened with CTRL-ALT-T.
>In my case it's been copied to /opt/zoiper, so I just type ./zoiper
>from that directory which has the executable file in it.
>
>If it's on the disk you can locate it by typing this into the command
>window:

Alternatively, create a 'shortcut' link to your desktop using this
command:-
http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl1_ln.htm


>>Secondly, when I was talking over Zoiper, the sound quality was dreadful
>>- breaking up very badly in both directions. On a second laptop
>>side-by-side running XP x-lite, calling the same number, the sound was
>>fine. How do I solve that one?

I am not familiar with this software but I would imagine that
somewhere there will be some buffer settings. Find those and increase
the time. I found a similar thing when setting up SJphone and that is
how I solved the problem.


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"Mark Evans" <mpe@st-peters-high.devon.sch.uk> wrote in message
news:eenmj5-m7h.ln1@st-peters-exeter.devon.sch.uk...
> cybuerke <cybuerke@plmgmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> A comprehensive list of what's available here:
>> http://www.voipnow.org/2008/06/the-d...nux-users.html

>
> On the "client" side this list isn't comprehensive. Obvious omissions
> being zoiper and kiax.



Why is it that some people feel the need to nitpick in public?

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Old 06-30-2008, 08:03 PM
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Gordon Henderson wrote:
> In article <qkvf645c39c6bepi5lviem197r1ruu057n@4ax.com>,
> Mark <markincambs@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:25:51 +0100, Lobster
>> <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> I've downloaded the .tar installation file, clicked on it, and it seemed
>>> to install and run itself, whereupon I entered my personal settings (for
>>> Sipgate). I was then able to make a phone call (more of that below).
>>> However, when I closed down Zoiper, it seemed to vanish completely -
>>> whered'it go? I eventually opened the .tar file again (to re-install
>>> it?) which I did (I think) and found my settings already in place.
>>> What's going on?

>> I run it from a command window, opened with CTRL-ALT-T.
>> In my case it's been copied to /opt/zoiper, so I just type ./zoiper
>>from that directory which has the executable file in it.
>> If it's on the disk you can locate it by typing this into the command
>> window:
>>
>> cd / ; find | grep zoiper


Took me 5 mins to generate a | character on the notebook keyboard...!
It just generated a list of about 10 directories, all followed by
"Permission denied". No mention of anything that would suggest where
Zoiper is hiding.

> From the "there's more than one way to do it" department:
>
> locate zoiper


....locatedb: No such file or directory

> or
> find / -name zoiper


Same result as the grep method...

Gave up on that - opened zoiper again and presumably reinstalled it yet
again from the .tar file. Found "advanced network settings" where
there are (according to the manual:

"Signaling QoS/DSCP
There are 12 AF (Assured Forwarding) values, one EF (Expedited
Forwarding) and one default (----) value. AF is a method of providing
low packet loss within a given traffic rate while this could affect
latency. EF is a defined behavior that asks for low-delay, low-jitter,
low-loss service."

Whatever the hell all that means. There are no other settings that I
can see to tweak.

Anyway, tried a range of EF and AF settings, none of which made the
slightest difference to the breaking up.

So, dumped that and just tried installing X-lite. Seem to have installed
it in My Documents, but hey... and at least it looks familiar from my XP
days.

I open it up from within File Manager, and open the configuration
window. I start entering the settings, and then 10 secs later the whole
x-lite app just vanishes before I've entered the data, and I'm left
staring at the desktop! Where the hell did it it go? I can't alt-tab
to it as in good old XP; it's not minimised to the taskbar; but if I
open Task Manager I can see I've got umpteen processes called
xtensoftphone all open, so presumably I'm now running multiple instances
of xlite. Somewhere.

I'm afraid my life's too short for much more of this... Windows is going
on as soon as I can get hold of a copy!

David

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Old 06-30-2008, 09:44 PM
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The Mandriva 2008.1 version is also custom made for out of the box EEE PC

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Lobster wrote:

> I'm afraid my life's too short for much more of this... Windows is going
> on as soon as I can get hold of a copy!


That would be a stupid thing to do. Be careful to have a backup so you
can get back.

You'd be better off learing how unix works.

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