More than one ATA?

Folks

I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin wireless router.

Is there any reason why I could not run an additional ATA (probably
another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet port on that router to allow
a someone else to run their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can
take it with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).

Regards

Mick

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Michael wrote:

> Folks
>
> I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin wireless router.
>
> Is there any reason why I could not run an additional ATA (probably
> another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet port on that router to allow
> a someone else to run their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can
> take it with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).

Shouldn't be a problem, but if you only have one public IP address then
obviously you won't be able to forward the same ports to two different ATAs
[if indeed your setup did require port forwarding to get it working].

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Michael has brought this to us :
> Folks
>
> I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin wireless router.
>
> Is there any reason why I could not run an additional ATA (probably
> another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet port on that router to allow
> a someone else to run their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can
> take it with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).

Port forwarding issues?

Presumably you already have certain ports forwarded to you SPA1001, or
it's in the DMZ?

You would need to change default ports to something else on the 2nd
device, perhaps - unless you have a router whose firmware can handle
SIP/RTP properly, without any forwarding.

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:19:15 GMT, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
wrote:

>Michael has brought this to us :
>> Folks
>>
>> I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin wireless router.
>>
>> Is there any reason why I could not run an additional ATA (probably
>> another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet port on that router to allow
>> a someone else to run their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can
>> take it with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).
>
>Port forwarding issues?
>
>Presumably you already have certain ports forwarded to you SPA1001, or
>it's in the DMZ?
>
>You would need to change default ports to something else on the 2nd
>device, perhaps - unless you have a router whose firmware can handle
>SIP/RTP properly, without any forwarding.
>
Considering the points that Jono has raised then that might also be a
problem when your daughter's phone is connected up at Uni.
I would think that you would have to go and set it up. You'd have to
be lucky that it would work first off on current settings. Some
Universities may block ports anyway. If that happens you may have to
consider using your VSP account via a service that allows use of
different ports.


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"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
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> Michael has brought this to us :
>> Folks
>>
>> I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin wireless router.
>>
>> Is there any reason why I could not run an additional ATA (probably
>> another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet port on that router to allow
>> a someone else to run their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can
>> take it with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).
>
> Port forwarding issues?
>
> Presumably you already have certain ports forwarded to you SPA1001, or
> it's in the DMZ?
>
> You would need to change default ports to something else on the 2nd
> device, perhaps - unless you have a router whose firmware can handle
> SIP/RTP properly, without any forwarding.


This is interesting. I have always thought of my PAP2 as two ATA's
in one box, but clearly there is more to it than that. So what is the
internal arcutecture of a PAP2?

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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Graham. <me@privacy.com> wrote:

>
>
> This is interesting. I have always thought of my PAP2 as two ATA's
> in one box, but clearly there is more to it than that. So what is the
> internal arcutecture of a PAP2?

It certainly has two independent VoIP ports - and these can be registered
with two different VoIP suppliers if desired. But it's still a single
device - with only one IP address - as far as your LAN is concerned.
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Jono wrote:
> Michael has brought this to us :
>> Folks
>>
>> I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin wireless router.
>>
>> Is there any reason why I could not run an additional ATA (probably
>> another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet port on that router to allow
>> a someone else to run their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can
>> take it with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).

It should work fine.

>
> Port forwarding issues?
>

There is honestly no need to forward ports for any SIP device nowadays.
Any SIP provider with even half a brain will cope fine with devices
behind a NAT.

I've been using SIP devices for 5 years now. I certainly haven't put in
a single port forwarding for SIP in the last 3 years. It just isn't
necessary anymore.



Tim

Graham. wrote:
>
> This is interesting. I have always thought of my PAP2 as two ATA's
> in one box, but clearly there is more to it than that. So what is the
> internal arcutecture of a PAP2?

It is 2 ATAs in one box. The listen on different port numbers.

Tim

"Michael" <kj@nvb.com> wrote in message
news:wq6Hi.37105$mZ5.8949@newsfe6-win.ntli.net
: : Folks
: :
: : I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin
: : wireless router.
: :
: : Is there any reason why I could not run an additional
: : ATA (probably another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet
: : port on that router to allow a someone else to run
: : their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can take it
: : with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).

No problem at all, I have about three hanging off a Fritz!Box here (Which
has 6 accounts all by itself..!)

Make sure you assign fixed IP addresses to them though, DHCP causes
problems.


Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:

> "Michael" <kj@nvb.com> wrote in message
> news:wq6Hi.37105$mZ5.8949@newsfe6-win.ntli.net
> : : Folks
> : :
> : : I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin
> : : wireless router.
> : :
> : : Is there any reason why I could not run an additional
> : : ATA (probably another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet
> : : port on that router to allow a someone else to run
> : : their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can take it
> : : with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).
>
> No problem at all, I have about three hanging off a Fritz!Box here
> (Which has 6 accounts all by itself..!)
>
> Make sure you assign fixed IP addresses to them though, DHCP causes
> problems.
>
>
> Ivor

Thanks folks - looks good.

Certainly, when I set up my Sipura ATA SPA1001 - apart from get the
bits right like regional settings etc (with help from this forum) I
didn't have to do anything else other than make sure the Router was set
as per instructions.... nothing difficult.

Running a second ATA should be the same I assume - and if I had any
local difficulties, no doubt members of this forum would assist as
always!

All I need now is a good price for another SPA 1001

Thanks again

Mick

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Tim wrote:
> Jono wrote:
>> Michael has brought this to us :
>>> Folks
>>>
>>> I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin wireless
>>> router. Is there any reason why I could not run an additional ATA
>>> (probably
>>> another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet port on that router to
>>> allow a someone else to run their own phone line (my daughter .....
>>> she can take it with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).
>
> It should work fine.
>
>>
>> Port forwarding issues?
>>
>
> There is honestly no need to forward ports for any SIP device
> nowadays. Any SIP provider with even half a brain will cope fine
> with devices behind a NAT.
>
> I've been using SIP devices for 5 years now. I certainly haven't put
> in a single port forwarding for SIP in the last 3 years. It just
> isn't necessary anymore.
>
>
>
> Tim


Yeah, my PAP2 is on my NAT router without any ports being forwarded, no
problems at all.


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Ivor Jones wrote:

> "Michael" <kj@nvb.com> wrote in message
> news:wq6Hi.37105$mZ5.8949@newsfe6-win.ntli.net
> : : Folks
> : :
> : : I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin
> : : wireless router.
> : :
> : : Is there any reason why I could not run an additional
> : : ATA (probably another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet
> : : port on that router to allow a someone else to run
> : : their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can take it
> : : with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).
>
> No problem at all, I have about three hanging off a Fritz!Box here
> (Which has 6 accounts all by itself..!)
>
> Make sure you assign fixed IP addresses to them though, DHCP causes
> problems.
>
>
> Ivor

Having looked into this now, I could probably upgrade the SPA1001 to a
PAP2 and achieve the same result but only taking up 1 port on the
router and one point on the trailing 240v socket.

Would that make sense?

(I could always give daughter the SPA1001 when she goes to Uni)

Mick

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Michael wrote:

> Ivor Jones wrote:
>
> > "Michael" <kj@nvb.com> wrote in message
> > news:wq6Hi.37105$mZ5.8949@newsfe6-win.ntli.net
> > : : Folks
> > : :
> > : : I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin
> > : : wireless router.
> > : :
> > : : Is there any reason why I could not run an additional
> > : : ATA (probably another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet
> > : : port on that router to allow a someone else to run
> > : : their own phone line (my daughter ..... she can take it
> > : : with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).
> >
> > No problem at all, I have about three hanging off a Fritz!Box here
> > (Which has 6 accounts all by itself..!)
> >
> > Make sure you assign fixed IP addresses to them though, DHCP causes
> > problems.
> >
> >
> > Ivor
>
> Having looked into this now, I could probably upgrade the SPA1001 to a
> PAP2 and achieve the same result but only taking up 1 port on the
> router and one point on the trailing 240v socket.
>
> Would that make sense?
>
> (I could always give daughter the SPA1001 when she goes to Uni)
>
> Mick

Just a thought (sorry about the multi posts) ..... the SPA1001 isn't
locked to any provider - is the PAP2 the same - unlocked?

Mick

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Michael wrote:
> Just a thought (sorry about the multi posts) ..... the SPA1001 isn't
> locked to any provider - is the PAP2 the same - unlocked?
>

It depends where you buy them from.


http://www.provoip.co.uk/ is always unlocked, as are others.

Tim

"Tim" <nutnews@kooky.org> wrote in message
news:46ed4eb2$0$767$bed64819@news.gradwell.net...
> Jono wrote:
>> Michael has brought this to us :
>>> Folks
>>>
>>> I currently run a Sipura SPA1001 ATA through a Belkin wireless
>>> router.
>>>
>>> Is there any reason why I could not run an additional ATA
>>> (probably
>>> another SPA1001) through a spare Ethernet port on that router to
>>> allow
>>> a someone else to run their own phone line (my daughter ..... she
>>> can
>>> take it with her when she leaves home to go to Uni).
>
> It should work fine.
>
>>
>> Port forwarding issues?
>>
>
> There is honestly no need to forward ports for any SIP device
> nowadays. Any SIP provider with even half a brain will cope fine
> with devices behind a NAT.
>
> I've been using SIP devices for 5 years now. I certainly haven't
> put in a single port forwarding for SIP in the last 3 years. It
> just isn't necessary anymore.
>
>
>
> Tim
>

Curious that. No way could I get voip.co.uk to work through a Belkin
wireless router using a wired port. The preconfigured Xlite softfone
from Sipgate would receive incoming calls but I could never make
outgoing.

Changed to a Netgear 614 and set up port forwarding and all now works
a treat, even with a SPA2000 or SPA2102.


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