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Old 09-13-2005, 07:32 AM
Doz
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Default New Zealand to UK voip calls...

Hi all,

Moving to NZ in the next few months... one way trip :-)

Any views on a voip system to call the UK for minimum costs ? Sipgte looks
good.. but then voipbuster UK calls are free. hmm..

The UK end will need to call me in NZ also.. preferably a local call from a
BT line.

Thanks,

Doz



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Old 09-13-2005, 07:58 AM
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"Doz" <Doz@Doz.Doz> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> Moving to NZ in the next few months... one way trip :-)
>
> Any views on a voip system to call the UK for minimum
> costs ? Sipgte looks good.. but then voipbuster UK
> calls are free. hmm..


Sipgate to Sipgate calls are also free, so if whoever you want to call or
who calls you has one it's completely free both ways. Of course this
applies to other VoIP suppliers, before the trolls jump on me.

> The UK end will need to call me in NZ also.. preferably a
> local call from a BT line.


See above. Note that you need a UK IP address to register a normal
geographic number, so do it before you leave..!

Ivor



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Old 09-13-2005, 08:09 AM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Sipgate to Sipgate calls are also free,


Sorry to hijack the thread.

Are they free if you dial the PSTN number, or only if you dial the 7 digit
SIP ID?



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Old 09-13-2005, 08:47 AM
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"Doz" <Doz@Doz.Doz> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> Moving to NZ in the next few months... one way trip :-)
>
> Any views on a voip system to call the UK for minimum costs ? Sipgte

looks
> good.. but then voipbuster UK calls are free. hmm..
>
> The UK end will need to call me in NZ also.. preferably a local call from

a
> BT line.
>

For a list of suppliers have a look here

http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index....rs+Residential

But using a UK or EU based supplier you may have a serious latancy issue.

The other issue may be the connection you get in NZ, Where I lived we had
radio links. But you should be fine in the Cities

Ian



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Old 09-13-2005, 09:01 AM
Doz
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Default Re: New Zealand to UK voip calls...

How much would sipgate cost? Is there a "rental" type cost per month ? Any
specialist routers needed ?

The UK end would have only a BT line.. no PC there.

Regards,

Doz

"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Doz" <Doz@Doz.Doz> wrote in message
> news:43268099$0$32733$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Moving to NZ in the next few months... one way trip :-)
> >
> > Any views on a voip system to call the UK for minimum
> > costs ? Sipgte looks good.. but then voipbuster UK
> > calls are free. hmm..

>
> Sipgate to Sipgate calls are also free, so if whoever you want to call or
> who calls you has one it's completely free both ways. Of course this
> applies to other VoIP suppliers, before the trolls jump on me.
>
> > The UK end will need to call me in NZ also.. preferably a
> > local call from a BT line.

>
> See above. Note that you need a UK IP address to register a normal
> geographic number, so do it before you leave..!
>
> Ivor
>
>




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Old 09-13-2005, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: New Zealand to UK voip calls...

Jono wrote:
> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:3onf4gF6pvumU1@individual.net...
>
>
>>Sipgate to Sipgate calls are also free,

>
>
> Sorry to hijack the thread.
>
> Are they free if you dial the PSTN number, or only if you dial the 7 digit
> SIP ID?
>

I've only done it once, and it was free for calling the PSTN number (got
translatesd to the SIP ID number on the bill).

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Old 09-13-2005, 11:25 AM
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[Please do not top post]

On 2005-09-13, Doz <Doz@Doz.Doz> wrote:
> How much would sipgate cost? Is there a "rental" type cost per month ? Any
> specialist routers needed ?


Cost to you? New Zealand to the UK tariff? Consult their website.

If by 'rental' you mean some sort of standing charge, there is none.
Again, consult their website.

Any type of router is suitable.

> The UK end would have only a BT line.. no PC there.


Choose one of the UK PSTN numbers offered on Sipgate's website. The UK
end phones you from their BT/TalkTalk/cable/mobile etc line at whatever
rate prevails for a call to that number. No PC is needed.

Brian.

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Old 09-13-2005, 11:48 AM
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<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:32:49 +0100, "Doz"


their wont be many sipgate customers left, the way they are running their
chicken shed operation now will their , still white knight eyevor will be
along ojnce hes finished driving the buses, god i bet he looks like "blakey"
from on teh buses /Ccarry on Films bwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh



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Old 09-13-2005, 06:21 PM
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"Jono" <no@no.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:3onf4gF6pvumU1@individual.net...
>
> >
> > Sipgate to Sipgate calls are also free,

>
> Sorry to hijack the thread.
>
> Are they free if you dial the PSTN number, or only if you
> dial the 7 digit SIP ID?


Both. In fact you have to dial the full PSTN number if the SIP ID's are on
different domains, i.e. German <> UK.

Ivor



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Old 09-13-2005, 06:23 PM
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<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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[snip]

> don't get ANY free calls to anywhere with Sipgate except
> to other Sipgate customers who are a dying breed .Mind
> you they have one customer or is it an employee who will
> stay with them for ever and a day .


A list of providers who peer with Sipgate is on the website
https://secure.sipgate.co.uk/user/tarife.php?show=6

Ivor



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Old 09-13-2005, 06:51 PM
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<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:23:18 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> > A list of providers who peer with Sipgate is on the
> > website
> > https://secure.sipgate.co.uk/user/tarife.php?show=6
> >
> > Ivor

> Try calling your Sipgate number from FWD and see what
> happens Ivor.


I have and I know it isn't working. You can't call several providers from
FWD at the moment, not just Sipgate.

Sipgate to FWD works fine though.

Ivor



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Old 09-13-2005, 08:36 PM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>>

> I have and I know it isn't working.


REALLY just goes to show how flawes sipgate really are doesnt it



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Old 09-13-2005, 08:37 PM
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"StudMuffin" <big9.5inches@comeandsee.net> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:3oole2F6u9t1U1@individual.net...
> > >

> > I have and I know it isn't working.

>
> REALLY just goes to show how flawes sipgate really are
> doesnt it


It's a FWD problem not Sipgate. Try calling from FWD to other providers as
well.

Ivor



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