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Old 09-17-2005, 06:09 PM
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Default Question from Holland: VoipBuster

Hi,

I can't seem to find a good forum in Dutch on this so i try here (if you
don't mind ;-)

I installed voipbuster today on my PC and did some testing with a normal
headset. Everything works fine as far as i can see now.

I did these tests because I want my children to use it and get my phonebills
a little lower ;-(
As everything seems to work properly, I now want to know what to do to
provide my children with a normal phone to use to make the calls over
voipbuster (In daily practice it won't work if I need to place them behind
my pc whenever they have to make a call).

So what to buy / do?
A usb bluetooth stick and a wireless phone????
Please advice me to find a good working set of equipment.

grtx,
Hans
noonallREMOVETHIS@hotmailREMOVETHIS.com



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Old 09-17-2005, 06:46 PM
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"me" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I can't seem to find a good forum in Dutch on this so i try here (if you
> don't mind ;-)
>
> I installed voipbuster today on my PC and did some testing with a normal
> headset. Everything works fine as far as i can see now.
>
> I did these tests because I want my children to use it and get my

phonebills
> a little lower ;-(
> As everything seems to work properly, I now want to know what to do to
> provide my children with a normal phone to use to make the calls over
> voipbuster (In daily practice it won't work if I need to place them behind
> my pc whenever they have to make a call).
>
> So what to buy / do?
> A usb bluetooth stick and a wireless phone????
> Please advice me to find a good working set of equipment.
>
> grtx,
> Hans
> noonallREMOVETHIS@hotmailREMOVETHIS.com
>
>

Assuming you have a router on you computer, the easiest
way is to buy a device know as an "ATA". This is a box that
connects to a port on the router. You can then connect a
normal phone or wireless phone into the ATA. No need to
buy any Bluetooth or IP wireless phones.
I'd recommend products from the Grandsteam or Supura.



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Old 09-17-2005, 07:00 PM
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*sipura



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Old 09-17-2005, 07:48 PM
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"Saleh Jambo" <Saleh@Jambo.nl> wrote in message
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> *sipura
>
>

Cheers, must put my fingers on a diet.



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Old 09-17-2005, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: Question from Holland: VoipBuster

Thanks for the answers.

I did some searching here in Holland.
It is in Dutch, but could this be something i need?
I was looking at the 486:

http://users.skynet.be/johan.janssen..._adapters.html

Hans


"Nick" <not.known@here.com.uk> schreef in bericht
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> "Saleh Jambo" <Saleh@Jambo.nl> wrote in message
> news:sRYWe.1301$QU3.1115@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
>>
>> *sipura
>>
>>

> Cheers, must put my fingers on a diet.
>
>




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Old 09-17-2005, 08:07 PM
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"me" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the answers.
>
> I did some searching here in Holland.
> It is in Dutch, but could this be something i need?
> I was looking at the 486:
>
> http://users.skynet.be/johan.janssen..._adapters.html
>
> Hans


Yes Hans,

You can get more sophisticated units, but what you have selected will work.



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Old 09-17-2005, 08:16 PM
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"me" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the answers.
>
> I did some searching here in Holland.
> It is in Dutch, but could this be something i need?
> I was looking at the 486:
>
> http://users.skynet.be/johan.janssen..._adapters.html
>
> Hans


Hi Hans,

That's the Grandstream 486 and if all you want is a single phone port then
it will work fine. Other units like the Sipura SPA-2000
www.sipura.com/products/spa2000.htm (I think this unit has now been
replaced by a new model so you may find it cheap..!) give you two
independent phone ports, which can even be with different VoIP providers
if you wish.

Ivor



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Old 09-17-2005, 08:34 PM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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Lots of Love

Ivor

xxxxxx



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Old 09-17-2005, 08:54 PM
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"Saleh Jambo" <Saleh@Jambo.nl> wrote in message
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> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:3p38coF8gmjmU1@individual.net...
> >

>
>
> Lots of Love
>
> Ivor
>
> xxxxxx


I'm not biting Stefan, you're wasting your time.

Ivor



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Old 09-17-2005, 09:28 PM
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<brown@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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[snip]

> But you have bitten you have replied you are just like
> the others all little kids together .


If that's what you choose to believe. He has to know he is no longer going
to succeed.

End of discussion (if you can call it that).

Ivor



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Old 09-17-2005, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: Question from Holland: VoipBuster

Thanks.
I understand.
But the cheapest SPA-2000 I found overhere was something like 40 euros more
expensive than the 486!?!?

And what is this with 'stefan'. Am i missing something here?

grtx
Hans


"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> schreef in bericht
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>
>
> "me" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:dghp8v$nam$1@news2.zwoll1.ov.home.nl
>> Thanks for the answers.
>>
>> I did some searching here in Holland.
>> It is in Dutch, but could this be something i need?
>> I was looking at the 486:
>>
>> http://users.skynet.be/johan.janssen..._adapters.html
>>
>> Hans

>
> Hi Hans,
>
> That's the Grandstream 486 and if all you want is a single phone port then
> it will work fine. Other units like the Sipura SPA-2000
> www.sipura.com/products/spa2000.htm (I think this unit has now been
> replaced by a new model so you may find it cheap..!) give you two
> independent phone ports, which can even be with different VoIP providers
> if you wish.
>
> Ivor
>
>




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Old 09-17-2005, 09:51 PM
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"me" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks.
> I understand.
> But the cheapest SPA-2000 I found overhere was something
> like 40 euros more expensive than the 486!?!?


But gives you two rather than one phone ports.

> And what is this with 'stefan'. Am i missing something
> here?


He's the group troll, try and ignore him. Problem is he changes usernames
like the rest of us change facial expressions so it's hard sometimes, but
he always uses the same IP address 81.110.218.193.

Ivor

PS could you post at the bottom please, thanks..!



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Old 09-17-2005, 10:33 PM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> If that's what you choose to believe. He has to know he is no longer going
> to succeed.
>
> End of discussion (if you can call it that).


brown is right eyevor, you bite every time, brown knows the truth about you
and sipgate too.



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Old 09-17-2005, 10:34 PM
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<brown@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> But he DID succeed but from what I have seen Stefan is right in what
> he says most of the time .
>


well thankyou your not the only one to say that, eyevor will disagree with
you though and i bet you a FREE years subscription to vonage £9.99 package
that he wont be able to resist replying or biting, fact is he loves it, it
brightens up his day.



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Old 09-17-2005, 10:37 PM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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ignore him Hans, i have been around longer than ivor jones, the fcat of the
matter is that eyevor jones is directly connected with sipgate in a senior
capacity in the uk, he wont admit it but throws in little bits every so
often gloating about it,whilst he can be helpful with his postings most of
them are in defence and supprt of sipgate which most uk users treat with
contempt.



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Old 09-17-2005, 11:38 PM
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<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > PS could you post at the bottom please, thanks..!

> There you go again what difference does it make top
> bottom or middle or is this another rule you have thought
> up for the group Ivor .


It's accepted convention in most groups.

Ivor



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Old 09-17-2005, 11:57 PM
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Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:51:00 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>>PS could you post at the bottom please, thanks..!

>
> There you go again what difference does it make top bottom or middle
> or is this another rule you have thought up for the group Ivor .


Don't be daft, Dextor. Bottom posting is well established etiquette for
email and usenet.

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Old 09-17-2005, 11:59 PM
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"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Don't be daft, Dextor. Bottom posting is well established etiquette for
> email and usenet.


Ppauline can we keep ivors group to the sunject he aimed it for VOIP nad not
talk about top or bottom posting, dex is right by the way, and id really
like to see you argue the top/bottom posting with some of the hardcore
nutters inalt.consumers.uk-discounts.

Love

Saleh Jampop



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Old 09-18-2005, 12:10 AM
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<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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..
> Ever seen me do otherwise Paul regarding usenet ? but none the less it
> is a fact that anyone can post which ever way he/she thinks fit Ivor
> just gets to me with his constant "I am the boss of this group"
> attitude .


ivor jones is:

Thou artless rough-hewn varlet!



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Old 09-18-2005, 12:23 AM
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Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 23:57:17 +0100, Paul Cupis <paul@cupis.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
>>>On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:51:00 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
>>><ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>PS could you post at the bottom please, thanks..!
>>>
>>>There you go again what difference does it make top bottom or middle
>>>or is this another rule you have thought up for the group Ivor .

>>
>>Don't be daft, Dextor. Bottom posting is well established etiquette for
>>email and usenet.

>
> Ever seen me do otherwise Paul regarding usenet ? but none the less it
> is a fact that anyone can post which ever way he/she thinks fit Ivor
> just gets to me with his constant "I am the boss of this group"
> attitude .


Yes, they can post any way they want. They can even change their "name"
every 15 minutes if they want.

But I think you'll find that if I reply to people who have top-posted, I
will ask them to bottom post in future. Others do likewise.

Now, shall I expect you to have a go at me for this?

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Old 09-18-2005, 01:52 AM
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Thus spaketh Saleh Jambo:
> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:3p3dtlF8h197U1@individual.net...
>
> ignore him Hans, i have been around longer than ivor jones.


Well we all know this is completly incorrect.

> the fcat
> of the matter is that eyevor jones is directly connected with sipgate
> in a senior capacity in the uk,



Again this is incorrect.

he wont admit it but throws in little
> bits every so often gloating about it,whilst he can be helpful with
> his postings most of them are in defence and supprt of sipgate which
> most uk users treat with contempt.


You have nothing better to do than to talk crap?



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Old 09-18-2005, 06:32 AM
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 19:09:14 +0200, "me"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:


>Please advice me to find a good working set of equipment.
>
>grtx,
>Hans

As a halfway house, you can replace the headset with a USB phone, but
here at least I still have to dial with the VoipBuster program, the
keys on the phone worked when I used it on Skype but not with
VoipBuster.

*pull FINGER out for valid email*

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Old 09-18-2005, 07:43 AM
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>> ignore him Hans, i have been around longer than ivor jones.


so has the pox, doesn't mean its a good thing.

Phil
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:13 AM
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Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 00:23:01 +0100, Paul Cupis <paul@cupis.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>Now, shall I expect you to have a go at me for this?

>
> No but the problem is Paul I have found the more you tell someone not
> to do something the more they will do it .


So how does:

"PS could you post at the bottom please, thanks..!"

warrant a response by you of:

"There you go again what difference does it make top bottom or middle
or is this another rule you have thought up for the group Ivor ."

?

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Old 09-18-2005, 06:07 PM
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>> I did some searching here in Holland.
>> It is in Dutch, but could this be something i need?
>> I was looking at the 486:
>>
>> http://users.skynet.be/johan.janssen..._adapters.html
>>
>> Hans

>
> Yes Hans,
>
> You can get more sophisticated units, but what you have selected will
> work.
>


I did ask this dealer about this adapter and he offered to configurate it
for me. But he has no experience with voipbuster and I also have no idea
wath he needs to 'configure' the thing....? What does he need for settings
or whatever?

Hans



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Old 09-19-2005, 04:00 AM
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> I did ask this dealer about this adapter and he offered to configurate it
> for me. But he has no experience with voipbuster and I also have no idea
> wath he needs to 'configure' the thing....? What does he need for settings
> or whatever?
>
> Hans
>


Nobody?

Hans



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Old 09-19-2005, 08:41 AM
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On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 05:00:45 +0200, "me"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>But he has no experience with voipbuster and I also have no idea
>> wath he needs to 'configure' the thing....? What does he need for settings
>> or whatever?


why not ask him what ne needs to know to do the config ?

usually its an account number or ID, a password and a number of server
names which have been posted here before

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Old 09-19-2005, 10:14 AM
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Phil Thompson wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 05:00:45 +0200, "me"
> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>But he has no experience with voipbuster and I also have no idea
>>
>>>wath he needs to 'configure' the thing....? What does he need for settings
>>>or whatever?

>
> why not ask him what ne needs to know to do the config ?
>
> usually its an account number or ID, a password and a number of server
> names which have been posted here before
>
> Phil


Can I hear a group FAQ coming along?

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Old 09-19-2005, 10:20 AM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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go ahead ivor there are a few FAQ i would like to add to that list, seriou
sone si might add, perhpas you would let me tell you what they are.



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Old 09-19-2005, 10:20 AM
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"Thomas Rankin" <tom@sanguinarius.dyndns.org> wrote in
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[snip]

> Can I hear a group FAQ coming along?


I was intending to compile a FAQ document shortly after the group's
creation but as is the usual way of things I never got around to it. I
suspect I wouldn't be taken seriously by a few people if I attempted to do
so now, anyone want to try..? Thomas..?

Ivor



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