Re: Sipgate

<mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>>Tax included (19%) : £3.82
>>Total w/o tax: £20.0
> Just what does this unscrupulous useless company think they are doing
> charging 19% VAT for their goods !not content with providing a
> totally useless service it looks like now they have started to rip
> customers of big time in other ways also .

Perhaps because the German government requires them to Ron.
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Graham wrote:
> <mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:68r79312vvuq4gojlp6ciafadc81d13sml@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>>> Tax included (19%) : £3.82
>>> Total w/o tax: £20.0
>> Just what does this unscrupulous useless company think they are doing
>> charging 19% VAT for their goods !not content with providing a
>> totally useless service it looks like now they have started to rip
>> customers of big time in other ways also .
>
> Perhaps because the German government requires them to Ron.


Wonder if the fool would have complained last year when the VAT was
still 16%?


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"Lurch" <myrealname@sjwelectrical.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 16:23:11 GMT, mymail@hotmail.com mused:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:57:38 +0100, Lurch
>><myrealname@sjwelectrical.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:45:58 GMT, mymail@hotmail.com mused:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:57:02 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
>>>><bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Graham wrote:
>>>>>> <mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:68r79312vvuq4gojlp6ciafadc81d13sml@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tax included (19%) : £3.82
>>>>>>>> Total w/o tax: £20.0
>>>>>>> Just what does this unscrupulous useless company think they are
>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>> charging 19% VAT for their goods !not content with providing a
>>>>>>> totally useless service it looks like now they have started to rip
>>>>>>> customers of big time in other ways also .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps because the German government requires them to Ron.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Wonder if the fool would have complained last year when the VAT was
>>>>>still 16%?
>>>>
>>>>The only fools around here are the ones who subscribe to Sipgate .
>>>
>>>Did you not have a Sipgate subscription?
>>
>>The operative word being DID and only due to someone in this group
>>making out that they where the best in the entire world I soon found
>>out he was lying and this guy is still at it today .Whenever anyone
>>asks for recommendations for a voip provider he is at the keyboard
>>typing Sipgate, Sipgate, Sipgate before anyone else gets a chance to
>>recommend any other .
>>Take the trouble to check back over the last two years and count the
>>number of complaints posted here regarding Sipgate, if there was a
>>prize awarded for the worst provider Sipgate would win it without even
>>trying.
>
> 2 flaws in that argument. First one being that a newsgroup isn't a
> definitive source of reliable information and secondly not every
> single complaint against every single provider gets published on on
> this newsgroup, and neither do any commendations, or very few at best.

3rd and 4th flaws - (3) the whole post is a load of rubbish and (4) it was
made by Ron Chew.

Oh yes (5) if Ron would actually dare to try Sipgate again (it's free, you
know..!) he might just find it works perfectly well since the registration
servers were upgraded last year. Although I know he won't, as he knows if
he does he stands a chance of having to admit I might just possibly be
right.


Ivor

<mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 15:57:38 +0100, Lurch
> <myrealname@sjwelectrical.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:45:58 GMT, mymail@hotmail.com mused:
>>
>>>On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:57:02 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
>>><bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Graham wrote:
>>>>> <mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:68r79312vvuq4gojlp6ciafadc81d13sml@4ax.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tax included (19%) : £3.82
>>>>>>> Total w/o tax: £20.0
>>>>>> Just what does this unscrupulous useless company think they are doing
>>>>>> charging 19% VAT for their goods !not content with providing a
>>>>>> totally useless service it looks like now they have started to rip
>>>>>> customers of big time in other ways also .
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps because the German government requires them to Ron.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Wonder if the fool would have complained last year when the VAT was
>>>>still 16%?
>>>
>>>The only fools around here are the ones who subscribe to Sipgate .
>>
>>Did you not have a Sipgate subscription?
>
> The operative word being DID and only due to someone in this group
> making out that they where the best in the entire world I soon found
> out he was lying and this guy is still at it today .Whenever anyone
> asks for recommendations for a voip provider he is at the keyboard
> typing Sipgate, Sipgate, Sipgate before anyone else gets a chance to
> recommend any other .
> Take the trouble to check back over the last two years and count the
> number of complaints posted here regarding Sipgate, if there was a
> prize awarded for the worst provider Sipgate would win it without even
> trying.

Having looked, it would appear that an alarming proportion of those
'complaints' were from one individual. It almost seems that this sad
individual bears a grudge. Nowhere easier to air a grudge than on the
Internet, of course - much easier than dealing with the real issues.

"Henry Hooray" <yri6tus02@sneakeLEAVETHISOUTmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Having looked, it would appear that an alarming proportion of those
> 'complaints' were from one individual. It almost seems that this sad
> individual bears a grudge. Nowhere easier to air a grudge than on the
> Internet, of course - much easier than dealing with the real issues.

You probably already realise (I've probably missed your point, but I'll say
it for others who might not know), but that sad individual you're referring
to is the very person in this thread that you're replying to, who thinks he
can hide behind one of his many aliases.

It's none other than that saddo otherwise known as "Ron Chew", "Clavox",
etc.

Rob