On 6/30/2011 4:03 AM, Anthony R. Gold wrote:
> Apologies if this is off-charter, but does anyone know how to obtain a SIP
> service that has a USA phone number for incoming calls? Apparently sipgate
> was supplying these but they have now run out. Does anyone know of any
> service provider that can supply this, and preferably either for free or for
> a one-time setup payment and with no calling charges for incoming calls?
Just a quick glance mind you but it appears there are quite a few on in
the list including Google Voice so to paraphrase a well known song, you
had better start checking the list and checking it twice... ;)
Notice the work around to to get one working in Google Voice from
outside the USA territory.
In article <v0ko07htjl2u0vi2kqjauf3lkqqidgvepo@4ax.com>,
Anthony R. Gold <tgold@panix.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 04:56:46 -0500, GlowingBlueMist
><GlowingBlueMist@itruely.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 6/30/2011 4:03 AM, Anthony R. Gold wrote:
>>> Apologies if this is off-charter, but does anyone know how to obtain a SIP
>>> service that has a USA phone number for incoming calls? Apparently sipgate
>>> was supplying these but they have now run out. Does anyone know of any
>>> service provider that can supply this, and preferably either for free or for
>>> a one-time setup payment and with no calling charges for incoming calls?
>>
>> Go through the list at this link and you should be able to locate one.
>> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/D...vice+Providers
>
>Thanks for the pointer but I have not yet found anyone who offers a USA DID
>phone number that can be received by SIP softphone or ATA without buying an
>outward calling plan that comes with monthly or annual subscription charges.
"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message news:3g1p075qv15qe7nv3u0dceufq7f6a2meh3@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:37:57 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
> <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote:
>
>> http://www.ipkall.com/
>>
>> Limited area codes though.
>
> Thanks. Have you tried it? Losing the phone number after 30 days with no
> answered calls makes their service rather fragile.
>
> I completed the registration and received back an email with a phone number
> in Area Code (253). I then tried to log back into Ipkall using that phone
> number and the same email address to which the number had been sent and am
> now greeted by "<---Must be a valid email address" in crimson.
>
> Their forum at http://forum.voxilla.com/ipkall-support-forum/ mentions this
> is not an error message but then fails to explain how to proceed past it.
That's because it's just a statement of fact/information, if you've got that far and had
the DDI emailed to you, then you have a live account.
The concept with IPCall is different compared to most other providers,
With most providers you registered your device with their server.
With IPCall (and UKDDI) you point the service to your device.
So lets say you have an IP phone set up to use voipcheap.co.uk for outgoing calls, and your account
is tonygold
There are two fields in the user settings page,
In SIP Phone Number you put "tonygold"
In SIP Proxy you put "sip.voipcheap.co.uk"
As you can see the so called SIP Phone number is often non-numerical!
Dial the US number and your IP phone should ring
Try this it always works
SIP Phone Number "166"
SIP Proxy "sip.voipfone.co.uk"
"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message news:3g1p075qv15qe7nv3u0dceufq7f6a2meh3@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:37:57 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
> <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote:
>
>> http://www.ipkall.com/
>>
>> Limited area codes though.
>
> Thanks. Have you tried it? Losing the phone number after 30 days with no
> answered calls makes their service rather fragile.
>
> I completed the registration and received back an email with a phone number
> in Area Code (253). I then tried to log back into Ipkall using that phone
> number and the same email address to which the number had been sent and am
> now greeted by "<---Must be a valid email address" in crimson.
>
> Their forum at http://forum.voxilla.com/ipkall-support-forum/ mentions this
> is not an error message but then fails to explain how to proceed past it.
>
That's because it's just a statement of fact/information, if you've got that far and had
the DDI emailed to you, then you have a live account.
The concept with IPCall is different compared to most other providers,
With most providers you registered your device with their server.
With IPCall (and UKDDI) you point the service to your device.
So lets say you have an IP phone set up to use voipcheap.co.uk for outgoing calls, and your account
is tonygold
There are two fields in the user settings page,
In SIP Phone Number you put "tonygold"
In SIP Proxy you put "sip.voipcheap.co.uk"
As you can see the so called SIP Phone number is often non-numerical!
Dial the US number and your IP phone should ring
Try this it always works
SIP Phone Number "166"
SIP Proxy "sip.voipfone.co.uk"
[Sorry if this post appears twice Eternal September seems to post them into a black hole
so I am trying again with Datemas]
--
Graham.
"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message news:r85q075brh50plaguebocosidi1j9r0ot1@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:19:47 +0100, "Graham." <me@privacy.com> wrote:
>
>> "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message news:3g1p075qv15qe7nv3u0dceufq7f6a2meh3@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:37:57 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
>>> <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.ipkall.com/
>>>>
>>>> Limited area codes though.
>>>
>>> Thanks. Have you tried it? Losing the phone number after 30 days with no
>>> answered calls makes their service rather fragile.
>>>
>>> I completed the registration and received back an email with a phone number
>>> in Area Code (253). I then tried to log back into Ipkall using that phone
>>> number and the same email address to which the number had been sent and am
>>> now greeted by "<---Must be a valid email address" in crimson.
>>>
>>> Their forum at http://forum.voxilla.com/ipkall-support-forum/ mentions this
>>> is not an error message but then fails to explain how to proceed past it.
>>>
>> That's because it's just a statement of fact/information, if you've got that far and had
>> the DDI emailed to you, then you have a live account.
>
> Ah, I didn't realise that page was the end of the line and could be edited
> directly. I was expecting to be forwarded somewhere else for configuration.
>
>> The concept with IPCall is different compared to most other providers,
>> With most providers you registered your device with their server.
>> With IPCall (and UKDDI) you point the service to your device.
>> So lets say you have an IP phone set up to use voipcheap.co.uk for outgoing calls, and your account
>> is tonygold
>>
>> There are two fields in the user settings page,
>> In SIP Phone Number you put "tonygold"
>> In SIP Proxy you put "sip.voipcheap.co.uk"
>> As you can see the so called SIP Phone number is often non-numerical!
>>
>> Dial the US number and your IP phone should ring
>>
>> Try this it always works
>>
>> SIP Phone Number "166"
>> SIP Proxy "sip.voipfone.co.uk"
>
> Many thanks. First 166 worked and was funny and then I copied its format to
> and got calls successfully forwarded to my own voipcheap account.
>
> But no luck yet with sipgate.
>
> For sipgate I used my "11xxxxx" (seven digit ID number) as the SIP Phone
> Number and "sipgate.co.uk" as proxy but when I called the IPKall USA phone
> number I received a message about the call not being completed because of
> network error 104 which I understand translates to "host requires
> authentication", whatever that implies. Any ideas?
You can't point a URI to sipgate.co.uk they block it somehow, it's a known issue.
Use an account from orbtalk.co.uk instead. The proxy is talk.orbtalk.co.uk
I have several Orbtalk accounts, I use them as "magnets" for UKDDI numbers, that work
in a similar way to IPCall.
"Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message news:j90r07tjletipvbvqtcj28hclo32fs4i1h@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2011 01:47:41 +0100, "Graham." <me@privacy.com> wrote:
>
>> You can't point a URI to sipgate.co.uk they block it somehow, it's a known issue.
>
> Many thanks. I can now stop banging my head against the wall on that one.
>
> Old question no-one answered: I can connect more than one ATA or softphone to
> sipgate but if I cause a device or softphone to register with VOIPCheap it
> appears to disconnect any device or softphone that had already been
> registered. Is that my finger problem or another "known issue"?
The only device I am aware of that disconnects itself if it detects a registration elsewhere
is Betamax's own softphone. As I think I mentioned before generic softphones like X-Lite
don't exhibit this "feature".
Back to sipgate.com for a moment, I am pretty sure that since I managed to sign up for my
account they have put an additional level of security that involves a SMS sent to a US cell phone
As I don't know anyone who I could ask to receive such a messages on my behalf that would be a show-stopper for me.
On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 01:47:41 +0100, Graham. wrote:
> "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:r85q075brh50plaguebocosidi1j9r0ot1@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 23:19:47 +0100, "Graham." <me@privacy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:3g1p075qv15qe7nv3u0dceufq7f6a2meh3@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:37:57 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
>>>> <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ipkall.com/
>>>>>
[snip]
>>
>> But no luck yet with sipgate.
>>
>> For sipgate I used my "11xxxxx" (seven digit ID number) as the SIP
>> Phone Number and "sipgate.co.uk" as proxy but when I called the IPKall
>> USA phone number I received a message about the call not being
>> completed because of network error 104 which I understand translates to
>> "host requires authentication", whatever that implies. Any ideas?
>
> You can't point a URI to sipgate.co.uk they block it somehow, it's a
> known issue.
>
> Use an account from orbtalk.co.uk instead. The proxy is
> talk.orbtalk.co.uk
>
> I have several Orbtalk accounts, I use them as "magnets" for UKDDI
> numbers, that work in a similar way to IPCall.
Once upon a time, IPCall did work with Sipgate but Sipgate itself was
notoriously flaky. Sipgate did something to their network that fixed it
and they've been pretty good ever since but the fix blocked incoming URI
connections and IPCall wouldn't work any more.
I think Sipgate's problems were due to some sort of attacks on / abuse of
their network and the block was their answer.
If you're using an ATA on a static IP, you can try pointing IPCall
directly at the ATA (i.e. put your numeric IP address in place of
sipgate.co.uk), still using your 8 digit Sipgate number as the account so
that the ATA accepts the calls. That used to work for me but I haven't
used it in years. It'll probably work via a dynamic DNS service too.
--
Steve Hayes, South Wales, UK -- remove colours from address
On Sat, 02 Jul 2011 10:15:50 +0100, Anthony R. Gold wrote:
[snip]
>
> Thanks, but that would not achieve my primary objective of being able to
> pick up calls made to the IPKall US number at multiple locations.
Snap! That's exactly the same reason I didn't persist with it. You can
reconfigure IPKall as you move around but it's not something you'd want
to do on the off chance that someone will call that way.
I'd think for most people though it would be a good enough workaround.
--
Steve Hayes, South Wales, UK -- remove colours from address
"Graham." <me@privacy.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Anthony R. Gold" <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:j90r07tjletipvbvqtcj28hclo32fs4i1h@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 1 Jul 2011 01:47:41 +0100, "Graham." <me@privacy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You can't point a URI to sipgate.co.uk they block it somehow, it's a
>>> known issue.
>>
>> Many thanks. I can now stop banging my head against the wall on that one.
>>
>> Old question no-one answered: I can connect more than one ATA or
>> softphone to
>> sipgate but if I cause a device or softphone to register with VOIPCheap
>> it
>> appears to disconnect any device or softphone that had already been
>> registered. Is that my finger problem or another "known issue"?
>
> The only device I am aware of that disconnects itself if it detects a
> registration elsewhere
> is Betamax's own softphone. As I think I mentioned before generic
> softphones like X-Lite
> don't exhibit this "feature".
>
> Back to sipgate.com for a moment, I am pretty sure that since I managed to
> sign up for my
> account they have put an additional level of security that involves a SMS
> sent to a US cell phone
> As I don't know anyone who I could ask to receive such a messages on my
> behalf that would be a show-stopper for me.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Graham.
>
> %Profound_observation%
>
Hi,
Google Voice numbers I believe support or have full SMS (network status,
registration, or mobile phone, status, etc.) capability (amongst others)?
>
> And doesn't work to Sipgate accounts. I have to keep my Gradwell account open purely to receive IPKall calls, anyone know a free
> SIP service which will terminate them..?
In article <97thelFpvdU3@mid.individual.net>,
Ria Elaine <ria_elaine@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
>On 30/06/11 12:37, Gordon Henderson wrote:
>> In article<v0ko07htjl2u0vi2kqjauf3lkqqidgvepo@4ax.com >,
>> Anthony R. Gold<tgold@panix.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 04:56:46 -0500, GlowingBlueMist
>>> <GlowingBlueMist@itruely.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/30/2011 4:03 AM, Anthony R. Gold wrote:
>>>>> Apologies if this is off-charter, but does anyone know how to obtain a SIP
>>>>> service that has a USA phone number for incoming calls? Apparently sipgate
>>>>> was supplying these but they have now run out. Does anyone know of any
>>>>> service provider that can supply this, and preferably either for
>free or for
>>>>> a one-time setup payment and with no calling charges for incoming calls?
>>>>
>>>> Go through the list at this link and you should be able to locate one.
>>>> http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/D...vice+Providers
>>>
>>> Thanks for the pointer but I have not yet found anyone who offers a USA DID
>>> phone number that can be received by SIP softphone or ATA without buying an
>>> outward calling plan that comes with monthly or annual subscription charges.
>>
>> http://www.ipkall.com/
>>
>> Limited area codes though.
>>
>> Gordon
>
>And doesn't work to Sipgate accounts.
No. I'd not expect it to either.
IPKall provides incoming calls. Sipgate provides incoming (& outgoing)
calls. It would be like having 2 BT sockets in your house and plumbing
them both together.
> I have to keep my Gradwell account
>open purely to receive IPKall calls, anyone know a free SIP service
>which will terminate them..?
IPKall is a SIP riginating service (for lack of a better term) You
connect SIP phones to it. If you had a phone that could handle 2 accounts,
one account could talk to IPKall, and the other to Sipgate. No need for
Gradwell at all. (unless you need a Gradwell account, then you need a
3rd account in your phone to talk to Gradwell) Many SIP desk phones can
do this - most of the non bottom-range phones have 4 accounts or more.
However - from the "you get what you pay for" department, there is
pbxes.com - e.g. https://www6.pbxes.com/iptel_virtual-pbx.html This is
a free hosted PBX that will let you plug in up to 5 SIP services and 5
SIP endpoints (e.g. VoIP deskphones, softphones, etc) and plumb
them all together. There are limits because they're carrying your
bandwidth, and paying for it, but that's the price to pay for a free
service...
(I also offer a similar service, but it's not free and really aimed
at businesses)
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