on 15/02/2007, Cardiff IT Support Ltd supposed :
> Hi,
>
> I have been using a sipgate incoming number for well over a year now. I send
> all my calls out via various providers but sipgate isn't one of them.
>
> I feel that a free number for life is too good to be true, especially when I
> don't spend any money with them.
>
> In my opinion I am taking the mic, and if I was sipgate I would have a word
> with me.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas regarding the security of numbers with sipgate?
>
Do you not feel compelled to at least deposit a tenner or something
into your account?
Certainly, they are under no obligation to continue to offer the
service for free.
>
> Do you not feel compelled to at least deposit a tenner or something into
> your account?
>
> Certainly, they are under no obligation to continue to offer the service
> for free.
>
>
There is a few quid on there but for the purpose of the question, there
might not have been. I have not yet read / heard that incoming numbers
are more secure if you have a positive balance I was just wondering if
anyone here had any facts as I am not one for reading small print.
Cardiff IT Support Ltd wrote:
>>
>> Do you not feel compelled to at least deposit a tenner or something
>> into your account?
>>
>> Certainly, they are under no obligation to continue to offer the
>> service for free.
I had a couple of numbers set-up when I first started using voip both at
home and work.
Whether I was just unfortunate with timing I don't know, but the
incoming call quality was so hit & miss I stopped using them and went to
voipfone Since no calls have been going through the numbers all the
sipgate accounts refuse to register with my draytek.
I suppose I could try setting up another account and see what happens.
If call quality is reliable I would even be happy to deposit a £10r into
their coffers... (Last time I tried even giving them money was
impossible to do on the web-site)
J Clavox formulated on Thursday :
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:47:45 GMT, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Do you not feel compelled to at least deposit a tenner or something
>> into your account?
>
> Anyone with any sense will not give money to anyone unless they are
> forced to do so and get a good deal from doing so and Sipgate just
> don't fit in into this category .
> Fools and their money are soon parted .
"Cardiff IT Support Ltd" <essbee@cardiffitsupport.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I have been using a sipgate incoming number for well over a year now. I
> send all my calls out via various providers but sipgate isn't one of them.
>
> I feel that a free number for life is too good to be true, especially when
> I don't spend any money with them.
>
> In my opinion I am taking the mic, and if I was sipgate I would have a
> word with me.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas regarding the security of numbers with sipgate?
I had just this thought about 6 months ago, having a nice free local number
is great for when
the use is not critical, but for business use last thing anyone needs is a
bad line or for the provider to go
belly up and lose my number.
By paying monthly for my number I am hoping the company has more money to
reinvest and stay solvent.unlike
some other VOIP providers
Voipfone quality is always superb, and the fallover to PSTN means you never
have to lose a call.
I get the impression sipgate is not bothered about the UK market, the
website and features never seem to change.
> Voipfone quality is always superb, and the fallover to PSTN means you never
> have to lose a call.
We have been using voipfone since the new-year a few hiccups for one day
when audio was only going one way or the other and pstn fall over didn't
cut in, but a £1.99 / month/number is a small price to pay.
On a tangent... does their fax2email service work very well?
I have just added a free 0870 number to the account. Our fax is mainly
used for outgoing faxes but it would be nice to know the service works well.
"Cardiff IT Support Ltd" <essbee@cardiffitsupport.com>
wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I have been using a sipgate incoming number for well over
> a year now. I send all my calls out via various
> providers but sipgate isn't one of them.
> I feel that a free number for life is too good to be
> true, especially when I don't spend any money with them.
>
> In my opinion I am taking the mic, and if I was sipgate I
> would have a word with me.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas regarding the security of
> numbers with sipgate?
They reserve the right to disconnect a number, but AFAIK have never done
so. A friend has had one for 2 years with no credit on it, he uses it to
call me and that's about it, it's still there.
"J Clavox" <clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:v9r9t2prdjn35ri6o0q94vlc4ej2849p3h@4ax.com
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:47:45 GMT, Jono
> <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> > Do you not feel compelled to at least deposit a tenner
> > or something into your account?
>
> Anyone with any sense will not give money to anyone
> unless they are forced to do so and get a good deal from
> doing so and Sipgate just don't fit in into this category
> .
> Fools and their money are soon parted .
"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.7d8c7d72f5196333.48968@blueyonder.invalid
> J Clavox formulated on Thursday :
> > On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 21:47:45 GMT, Jono
> > <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Do you not feel compelled to at least deposit a
> > > tenner or something into your account?
> >
> > Anyone with any sense will not give money to anyone
> > unless they are forced to do so and get a good deal
> > from doing so and Sipgate just don't fit in into this
> > category . Fools and their money are soon parted .
>
> Why the name change M/N.Dexter?
Perhaps his last ISP finally saw sense and kicked him off..?!
It happens that Pete @ www.GymRatZ.co.uk formulated :
> RH wrote:
>
>> Voipfone quality is always superb, and the fallover to PSTN means you never
>> have to lose a call.
>
> We have been using voipfone since the new-year a few hiccups for one day when
> audio was only going one way or the other and pstn fall over didn't cut in,
> but a £1.99 / month/number is a small price to pay.
>
> On a tangent... does their fax2email service work very well?
> I have just added a free 0870 number to the account. Our fax is mainly used
> for outgoing faxes but it would be nice to know the service works well.
>
> Cheers
> Pete
It works very well does the fax to email service. You do have to be
patient whilst waiting for the email - longest I've waited is 10
minutes.
In article <un4Bh.7798$fa.5208@newsfe1-win.ntli.net>,
Cardiff IT Support Ltd <essbee@cardiffitsupport.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I have been using a sipgate incoming number for well over a year now. I
>send all my calls out via various providers but sipgate isn't one of them.
>
>I feel that a free number for life is too good to be true, especially
>when I don't spend any money with them.
>
>In my opinion I am taking the mic, and if I was sipgate I would have a
>word with me.
>
>Does anyone have any ideas regarding the security of numbers with sipgate?
Who knows, but I've done exactly the same myself for about a year now. I
stuck a tenner in the account back then too, but haven't had the need
to top it up yet.
I guess their business model relies on people who do want to use it and
top up their account more than once. (or even regularly!)
At least I'd hope that they did. Been looking into all this myself
(Wholesale IP <-> PSTN termination), and still trying to work out a
pricing model that might work ...
Cardiff IT Support Ltd wrote:
>
> I have been using a sipgate incoming number for well over a year now. I
> send all my calls out via various providers but sipgate isn't one of them.
You could always port your number to another provider.
"Cardiff IT Support Ltd" <essbee@cardiffitsupport.com> schreef in bericht
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> Does anyone have any ideas regarding the security of numbers with sipgate?
I have, since years, a german (+49 40) and a UK number (+44 20) with
Sipgate.
There is a few Euro on the german account, no credit at all on the UK
account.
Both working fine for incoming calls, numbers never were deleted because no
credit or so...
Using sipgate.co.uk only for outging 0800 numbers in UK
Same for sipgate.de: only for special numbers in Germany.
For all other outgoing I'm using one of the Betamax free calls providers
But indeed, I guess no guarantee that these will be numbers for life ;)
On 15 Feb, 21:36, Cardiff IT Support Ltd <ess...@cardiffitsupport.com>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have been using a sipgate incoming number for well over a year now. I
> send all my calls out via various providers but sipgate isn't one of them.
>
> I feel that a free number for life is too good to be true, especially
> when I don't spend any money with them.
>
> In my opinion I am taking the mic, and if I was sipgate I would have a
> word with me.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas regarding the security of numbers with sipgate?
>
> ---
> Sean Browne
> Cardiff IT Support Ltdwww.cardiffitsupport.com
Check out www.connexin.co.uk click the sign up button on the left u
choose from over 2 million numbers including 0845!
on a slightly more helpful note "3.In the event of a retail member
ceasing to trade, the wholesale member will reserve their customers’
numbers. The wholesaler will enable the transfer of these reserved
numbers to another retail member when requested to do so by the end user
through another retail member. In these circumstances the wholesaler
will not reallocate a number used by the retailer for a minimum of three
months."
The above is Common Practice Document - Number Porting between ITSPA members
Sipgate are not ITSPA members, but a good amount of nicer companies in
the UK are.
I guess the con...nooobs above are not planning on becoming ITSPA
members anytime soon.
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