PhilÅ wrote:
> Hi
>
> Signed up a week or two ago.
>
> Tried calling it from my mobile today, constant engaged tone.
>
> Also called my voice mail from the pc 50000 and got the answer machine woman
> in German... Maybe I have chosen the wrong voip provider.
>
> Have a linksys ap2 wireless router with 2 voip. I am assuming I can
> configure it with with two different accounts for both jacks.
I think you will find that if you look through previous topics this
seems to be the norm for sipgate
"PhilÅ" <iclgateway@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> Signed up a week or two ago.
>
> Tried calling it from my mobile today, constant engaged tone.
>
> Also called my voice mail from the pc 50000 and got the answer machine
> woman in German... Maybe I have chosen the wrong voip provider.
Both the above usually indicate a misconfiguration in the phone/ATA
somewhere. Was it working before..?
> Have a linksys ap2 wireless router with 2 voip. I am assuming I can
> configure it with with two different accounts for both jacks.
Sometimes, it depends. If both require a STUN server to be set you may
find one will work and the other not, the only way is to try it and see.
<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 14:49:50 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>Both the above usually indicate a misconfiguration in the phone/ATA
>>somewhere. Was it working before..?
>
> Never in a million years could it be the fault of Sipgate could it
> Ivor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "PhilÅ" <iclgateway@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2D1Ke.2447$JB4.1498@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> > Hi
> >
> > Signed up a week or two ago.
> >
> > Tried calling it from my mobile today, constant engaged tone.
> >
> > Also called my voice mail from the pc 50000 and got the answer machine
> > woman in German... Maybe I have chosen the wrong voip provider.
>
> Both the above usually indicate a misconfiguration in the phone/ATA
> somewhere. Was it working before..?
>
> > Have a linksys ap2 wireless router with 2 voip. I am assuming I can
> > configure it with with two different accounts for both jacks.
>
> Sometimes, it depends. If both require a STUN server to be set you may
> find one will work and the other not, the only way is to try it and see.
>
> Ivor
> >
> > Tried calling it from my mobile today, constant engaged tone.
> >
> > Also called my voice mail from the pc 50000 and got the answer machine
> > woman in German... Maybe I have chosen the wrong voip provider.
>
> Both the above usually indicate a misconfiguration in the phone/ATA
> somewhere. Was it working before..?
Go on tell us why a misconfigered ATA will mean the prompts are in german.
"Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> >
>> > Tried calling it from my mobile today, constant engaged tone.
>> >
>> > Also called my voice mail from the pc 50000 and got the answer
>> > machine
>> > woman in German... Maybe I have chosen the wrong voip provider.
>>
>> Both the above usually indicate a misconfiguration in the phone/ATA
>> somewhere. Was it working before..?
>
> Go on tell us why a misconfigered ATA will mean the prompts are in
> german.
Because the error messages telling you that your system is misconfigured
haven't been recorded in English (yet).
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:11fht57rc43mk86@corp.supernews.com...
>>> >
> Because the error messages telling you that your system is misconfigured
> haven't been recorded in English (yet).
>
> Ivor
Whys that then Ivor? How long does it take them to get the basics right?
If I was running such a service, I would consider that first impressions
were very important to the success and wellbeing of a company. For the time
it would take to make the voicemail work as it is intended would take little
time, and save them a lot of bad press. I wouldn't even launch the voicmail
until it had been tested by a group of beta testers to make sure it was up
to scratch. These lot just leave it on even though its plagued with
problems. I doubt that if they knew how to cure it, then it would have been
done months ago. Failing to cure something so simple, hardly gives the
customer much in the way of trust. That voicemail should have been put
right weeks and weeks ago, its a disgrace to the company and would be a
major embarrassment if I was in charge. Infact if I couldn't sort it, I'd
get someone in who could.....AND FAST!
<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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[snip]
> Ivor you reminds me greatly of many ISP's tech support personnel it
> has been my displeasure to have spoken with who's thinking to any
> problem that their boses have inplanted into their brains by a
> nurosurgical operation is remember it is ALWAYS the customers
> equipment that is at fullt NOT our systems or equipment !!!!!!! .
Strange that, your problem seems to be the exact opposite..! It couldn't
*possibly* be *your* end that's at fault, could it..?!
"MrLover" <MrLover@BigBoy.netuk> wrote in message
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>
> <Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message > Never in a million years
> could it be the fault of Sipgate could it
>> Ivor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
>>
> face it sipgate is crap, vonage rules thats for sure but ivor will back
> them to the hilt come rain or high heaven
Oh God here we go, it's Stefan again..!
Oh well another one for the killfile, I'll need a bigger hard drive to
hold it soon..!
<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message > Never in a million years could
it be the fault of Sipgate could it
> Ivor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
>
face it sipgate is crap, vonage rules thats for sure but ivor will back them
to the hilt come rain or high heaven
"Dave" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:3lsaqqF145elvU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:11fht57rc43mk86@corp.supernews.com...
>>>> >
>
>> Because the error messages telling you that your system is
>> misconfigured haven't been recorded in English (yet).
>>
>> Ivor
>
> Whys that then Ivor? How long does it take them to get the basics
> right? If I was running such a service, I would consider that first
> impressions were very important to the success and wellbeing of a
> company. For the time it would take to make the voicemail work as it is
> intended would take little time, and save them a lot of bad press.
I said the error messages saying your system is misconfigured haven't been
recorded in English. I didn't say the voicemail files hadn't, I have no
idea why that lapses into German, I believe the system runs in Linux which
is a black art to me, I'm a DOS diehard <g>
I do agree though that it should have been sorted a long time ago.
PhilÅ wrote:
> Hi
>
> Signed up a week or two ago.
>
> Tried calling it from my mobile today, constant engaged tone.
>
> Also called my voice mail from the pc 50000 and got the answer machine woman
> in German... Maybe I have chosen the wrong voip provider.
>
> Have a linksys ap2 wireless router with 2 voip. I am assuming I can
> configure it with with two different accounts for both jacks.
>
>
Would you mind dropping me a e-mail? Wana know where you got that
linksys wireless router!
I'm trying www.justdialvoip.com at moment, it's £1.99 a month, with
evening and weekend UK geo calls included. And mobiles 20p for 20mins
evening, and 15p for 20mins at weekend.
I've only just started using them, call i made before was brilliant
quality. I'm just sorting out my ATA's way of handling new vociemail alerts.
"PhilÅ" <iclgateway@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi
>
> Signed up a week or two ago.
>
> Tried calling it from my mobile today, constant engaged tone.
>
> Also called my voice mail from the pc 50000 and got the answer machine
> woman in German... Maybe I have chosen the wrong voip provider.
>
> Have a linksys ap2 wireless router with 2 voip. I am assuming I can
> configure it with with two different accounts for both jacks.
>
Thanks for all your replies.
The constantly engaged was due to the Three Mobile I was using, did call
Three and they where having some sort of routing problems.
Also re the voice mail in German, now ok. I suppose as they say it is free
and still in Beta testing I can't moan.
PhilÅ wrote:
> "PhilÅ" <iclgateway@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2D1Ke.2447$JB4.1498@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
>>Hi
>>
>>Signed up a week or two ago.
>>
>>Tried calling it from my mobile today, constant engaged tone.
>>
>>Also called my voice mail from the pc 50000 and got the answer machine
>>woman in German... Maybe I have chosen the wrong voip provider.
>>
>>Have a linksys ap2 wireless router with 2 voip. I am assuming I can
>>configure it with with two different accounts for both jacks.
>>
>
>
> Thanks for all your replies.
>
> The constantly engaged was due to the Three Mobile I was using, did call
> Three and they where having some sort of routing problems.
>
> Also re the voice mail in German, now ok. I suppose as they say it is free
> and still in Beta testing I can't moan.
>
> Ta
>
>
the voicemail changes its voice often
"Sean" <seanhardy88NOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> PhilÅ wrote:
>> "PhilÅ" <iclgateway@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:2D1Ke.2447$JB4.1498@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>Signed up a week or two ago.
>>>
>>>Tried calling it from my mobile today, constant engaged tone.
>>>
>>>Also called my voice mail from the pc 50000 and got the answer machine
>>>woman in German... Maybe I have chosen the wrong voip provider.
>>>
>>>Have a linksys ap2 wireless router with 2 voip. I am assuming I can
>>>configure it with with two different accounts for both jacks.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for all your replies.
>>
>> The constantly engaged was due to the Three Mobile I was using, did call
>> Three and they where having some sort of routing problems.
>>
>> Also re the voice mail in German, now ok. I suppose as they say it is
>> free and still in Beta testing I can't moan.
>>
>> Ta
> the voicemail changes its voice often
Yep, as I say, sipgate admit it is in beta and having issues, At least they
are having a go.
PhilÅ wrote:
> "Sean" <seanhardy88NOSPAM@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:ddb3tq$kh8$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>
>>PhilÅ wrote:
>>
>>>"PhilÅ" <iclgateway@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:2D1Ke.2447$JB4.1498@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi
>>>>
>>>>Signed up a week or two ago.
>>>>
>>>>Tried calling it from my mobile today, constant engaged tone.
>>>>
>>>>Also called my voice mail from the pc 50000 and got the answer machine
>>>>woman in German... Maybe I have chosen the wrong voip provider.
>>>>
>>>>Have a linksys ap2 wireless router with 2 voip. I am assuming I can
>>>>configure it with with two different accounts for both jacks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks for all your replies.
>>>
>>>The constantly engaged was due to the Three Mobile I was using, did call
>>>Three and they where having some sort of routing problems.
>>>
>>>Also re the voice mail in German, now ok. I suppose as they say it is
>>>free and still in Beta testing I can't moan.
>>>
>>>Ta
>>
>>the voicemail changes its voice often
>
>
> Yep, as I say, sipgate admit it is in beta and having issues, At least they
> are having a go.
>
>
Yep, they sure are!
I am rather impressed with the voicemail on justdialvoip, it allows you
to have something like this for your greeting:
"Sorry, i cant take your call, you may leave a message or have your call
transfered to my mobile, or office phone. Please press 1 to be
transfered to my mobile, or 2 for my office, otherwise leave a message
after the tone." Genious!
Dave wrote:
> I wouldn't even launch the voicmail until it had been tested by a
> group of beta testers to make sure it was up to scratch.
I thought that you were the beta-testers?
From their news section, "02/03":
"Voicemail Live! 02/03
Beta testing, not fully operational
sipgate has activated the voicemail feature. The system works, but still
has some work being done to it. Please don't flood the support mail with
questions or complaints about voicemail as they will not be answered
until the system is running well."
In article <TR6Ke.1077$CM.93@newsfe7-win.ntli.net>, MrLover@BigBoy.netuk
says...
>
> <Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message > Never in a million years could
> it be the fault of Sipgate could it
> > Ivor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
> >
> face it sipgate is crap, vonage rules thats for sure but ivor will back them
> to the hilt come rain or high heaven
>
>
>
Like you back vonage. I can not say which one is better, but if you
think Vonage is better then fair enough, if Ivor thinks Sipgate is
better then fair enough. there is not need to argue about it.
I think BT is the biggest load of rubbish on this earth, but I do not
argue about it.
"Ad C" <graphi47uk@y.a.h.o.o.co.uk> wrote in > Like you back vonage. I can
not say which one is better, but if you
> think Vonage is better then fair enough, if Ivor thinks Sipgate is
> better then fair enough. there is not need to argue about it.
>
> I think BT is the biggest load of rubbish on this earth, but I do not
> argue about it.
fair point AD c, although ivor rams it down everyones throat when i dare to
praise vonage for being the best , which incidentally they are if you want
flawless service that doesnt deop and fail continually like pissgate does.
still most people will have anything for FREE like sipgate so you get what
you pay for i suppose
In article <V9kKe.2002$6i5.966@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net>, GOLDSTAR@GOLDSTAR.UK.CO.NET says...
>
> fair point AD c, although ivor rams it down everyones throat when i dare to
> praise vonage for being the best , which incidentally they are if you want
That still do not mean they are the best, I expect there ar other
sevices out there which are just as good if not better.
> flawless service that doesnt deop and fail continually like pissgate does.
I have heard different, from what information I been looking at over the
net, there is not diiference between any VOPIP service, they are all as
bad or as good as each other.
>
> still most people will have anything for FREE like sipgate so you get what
> you pay for i suppose
>
> There is a difference between defending a company that provides good
> service and who's voicemail and other add on services work superbly
> and defending a company that makes no effort to correct its voicemail
> service that hasn't worked correctly from day one and allows its staff
> to clear of on a boozing weekend letting the ship steer itself on to
> the rocks and deny its customers service for two days .
Can you prove any of that?
> >I think BT is the biggest load of rubbish on this earth, but I do not
> >argue about it.
> BT is the best land line provider in the UK there is no doubt about
> it.
If you say so, I think Bt is the biggest waste of space of a company on
this earth, and if I ever have to deal with them again, it will be too
soon.
> If you say so, I think Bt is the biggest waste of space of a
> company on this earth, and if I ever have to deal with them again,
> it will be too soon.
At least they are offering CLID free of charge now, not before time. TW
have just increased the cost from £1 to £1.50 per month for it.
well ivor free is goos but only when it works, i would only evert consider a
free service if it was as flawless as vonage, surely you can understand that
becuase my vonage lines are flawless and have never had any issues with them
thats why im reluctant to get one of these so called free voip providers, i
have no problems paying for a reliable,top notch service ivor love.
In article <3lurlaF13er4iU1@individual.net>, ivor@despammed.invalid
says...
..
>
> At least they are offering CLID free of charge now, not before time. TW
> have just increased the cost from £1 to £1.50 per month for it.
>
Only because they have to find someway to stop customers going
elsewhere. even free ClId is not enough to get me back using them. My
phone bills have never been lower, since I changed, it more than makes
up the price I would have to pay for CLID, if I had it.
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