Joe Harrison wrote:
|| Not changed anything and my settings still all look fine but can't
|| place outgoing calls.
||
|| Been getting "SIP/2.0 403 Forbidden" all morning. Is it working for
|| other people?
||
|| Joe
Joe Harrison wrote:
> Not changed anything and my settings still all look fine but can't place
> outgoing calls.
>
> Been getting "SIP/2.0 403 Forbidden" all morning. Is it working for other
> people?
>
> Joe
It's not just you, it's happening here too.
Calls to other sipgate numbers are working fine, as are receving calls.
"Thomas Rankin" <tom@sanguinarius.dyndns.org> wrote in message
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> Joe Harrison wrote:
>> Not changed anything and my settings still all look fine but can't place
>> outgoing calls.
>>
>> Been getting "SIP/2.0 403 Forbidden" all morning. Is it working for other
>> people?
>>
>> Joe
>
> It's not just you, it's happening here too.
> Calls to other sipgate numbers are working fine, as are receving calls.
It wouldnt be so bad is one of Sipgate's worst detractors hadnt mentinoed
that it all goes t##s up at the weekend just a few days ago ;-)
"Roger Barrett" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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this whole episode proves how incompetent sipgate really are, yet again as
the weekdn comes and go's the service virtually stops working, like me and
dex have said previously its because the krauts have gone out boozing all
weekend.
When will you lot learn that you get a cheap,almost free service and you
therefore get a crap and consistently faulty service, are you all mad or
something why do you put up with Sipgates incompetence.
"Jono" <no@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Joe Harrison wrote:
> > > Not changed anything and my settings still all look
> > > fine but can't place outgoing calls.
> > >
> > > Been getting "SIP/2.0 403 Forbidden" all morning. Is
> > > it working for other people?
> > >
> > > Joe
>
> Snap.
>
> I can make outgoing SIP calls, but not to PSTN.
>
> Incomming calls are fine.
I get the same from my accounts that have credit. From a number that
doesn't have any credit on it I get the recorded announcement saying I
have no credit, so whether this has any significance or not I don't know.
"Roger Barrett" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Thomas Rankin" <tom@sanguinarius.dyndns.org> wrote in
> message news:5PdXe.6591$ws4.954@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
> > Joe Harrison wrote:
> > > Not changed anything and my settings still all look
> > > fine but can't place outgoing calls.
> > >
> > > Been getting "SIP/2.0 403 Forbidden" all morning. Is
> > > it working for other people?
> > >
> > > Joe
> >
> > It's not just you, it's happening here too.
> > Calls to other sipgate numbers are working fine, as are
> > receving calls.
>
> It wouldnt be so bad is one of Sipgate's worst detractors
> hadnt mentinoed that it all goes t##s up at the weekend
> just a few days ago ;-)
First time it's gone off here since around March. From an account with no
credit though I get the normal recorded message saying so, which might
indicate the problem is elsewhere, but of course I will now get blasted
for even thinking it ;-)
Saleh Jambo wrote:
|| "Jono" <no@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
|| news:s4iXe.110953$G8.77006@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
||| You are a disgrace.
|||
||
|| jono isnt everyone entitled to their opinion.
Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:23:27 GMT, "Jono" <no@nospamblueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>>Saleh Jambo wrote:
>>|| "Jono" <no@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>>|| news:s4iXe.110953$G8.77006@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>>||| You are a disgrace.
>>||
>>|| jono isnt everyone entitled to their opinion.
>>
>>Not when spouting about concentration camps, no.
>
> Why
Oh, here we go.
Please resolve this in a more appropriate forum, like private email, and
not here where it is wildly off topic.
<brown@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Much more palatable subject than spouting about the virtues of Sipgate
> I should have thought and just what is wrong with saying someone
> should be put in a con camp anyway .
please count me out of this conversation brown, im sure cupid will eb along
shortly to answer your question though.
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 18:23:39 GMT, [Saleh Jambo] said :-
>
>"Jono" <no@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
>ok fair enough, thanks for your opinion on my question.
>
You never wrote a question Slick. You wrote an incomprehensible
statement.
"Jono" <no@nospamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Joe Harrison wrote:
> > > Not changed anything and my settings still all look
> > > fine but can't place outgoing calls.
> > >
> > > Been getting "SIP/2.0 403 Forbidden" all morning. Is
> > > it working for other people?
> > >
> > > Joe
>
> Snap.
>
> I can make outgoing SIP calls, but not to PSTN.
>
> Incomming calls are fine.
It was back on when I got up this morning. I know I'm going to get blasted
for saying this, but was it a Sipgate problem at all..? I was getting
engaged tone when dialling PSTN numbers, now the simple fact of the matter
is that Sipgate's network *does not generate* engaged tone at all,
anywhere in its system, so that tone *had* to have been coming from
outside their network. The question is, where..?
Ivor Jones wrote:
>
> It was back on when I got up this morning. I know I'm going to get blasted
> for saying this, but was it a Sipgate problem at all..?
Yes, I think so.
> I was getting
> engaged tone when dialling PSTN numbers, now the simple fact of the matter
> is that Sipgate's network *does not generate* engaged tone at all,
No, your ATA does.
> anywhere in its system, so that tone *had* to have been coming from
> outside their network. The question is, where..?
>
Their SIP servers were giving authentication errors, It was a fault with
their system.
Either way, been working fine all day, even made a call to spain today
on it without a problem.
"Thomas Rankin" <uktvoip@sanguinarius.co.uk> wrote in
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
[snip]
> > I was getting
> > engaged tone when dialling PSTN numbers, now the simple
> > fact of the matter is that Sipgate's network *does not
> > generate* engaged tone at all,
>
> No, your ATA does.
True, but only for SIP to SIP calls. Calling a BT line for example will
result in the ringing, engaged or whatever tone being passed through from
BT.
> Their SIP servers were giving authentication errors, It
> was a fault with their system.
Hmm, so why were only outgoing PSTN calls affected..? SIP to SIP and
incoming PSTN were fine.
> Either way, been working fine all day, even made a call
> to spain today on it without a problem.
I'll be interested to find out what the exact problem was.
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Thomas Rankin" <uktvoip@sanguinarius.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:yrzXe.27977$Aa1.9464@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net
>
>>Ivor Jones wrote:
>
>>>I was getting
>>>engaged tone when dialling PSTN numbers, now the simple
>>>fact of the matter is that Sipgate's network *does not
>>>generate* engaged tone at all,
>>
>>No, your ATA does.
>
> True, but only for SIP to SIP calls. Calling a BT line for example will
> result in the ringing, engaged or whatever tone being passed through from
> BT.
>
Frequently the first ring tone is generated by the server you are
connected to, which is why a failed connection can produce one ring tone
and then an error tone.
>
>>Their SIP servers were giving authentication errors, It
>>was a fault with their system.
>
> Hmm, so why were only outgoing PSTN calls affected..? SIP to SIP and
> incoming PSTN were fine.
>
I don't know, but I've got server logs you can look at (which were
giving authentication errors when calling land lines but not when they
were to sipgate numbers), maybe sipgate have a different authentication
process for internal calls.
Maybe it wasn't sipgate at fault but someone further up the chain.
<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 13:55:42 GMT, Thomas Rankin
> <uktvoip@sanguinarius.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> > Their SIP servers were giving authentication errors, It
> > was a fault with their system.
> Course it was only a fool or an EMPLOYEE would think
> otherwise .
So why was I getting a tone returned to me which Sipgate's system does not
generate..?
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> It was back on when I got up this morning. I know I'm going to get blasted
> for saying this, but was it a Sipgate problem at all..? I was getting
> engaged tone when dialling PSTN numbers, now the simple fact of the matter
> is that Sipgate's network *does not generate* engaged tone at all,
> anywhere in its system, so that tone *had* to have been coming from
> outside their network. The question is, where..?
>
yet again ivor your comments prove that you have direct links with sipgate,
only an employee would know these things.
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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> I'll be interested to find out what the exact problem was.
>
you know already what the issue is dont you , youre just covering your
tracks and trying to put people off when they really know the truth about
you eyevor jones.
"Thomas Rankin" <uktvoip@sanguinarius.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Thomas Rankin" <uktvoip@sanguinarius.co.uk> wrote in
> > message news:yrzXe.27977$Aa1.9464@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net
> >
> >>Ivor Jones wrote:
> >
> >>>I was getting
> >>>engaged tone when dialling PSTN numbers, now the simple
> >>>fact of the matter is that Sipgate's network *does not
> >>>generate* engaged tone at all,
> >>
> >>No, your ATA does.
> >
> > True, but only for SIP to SIP calls. Calling a BT line for example will
> > result in the ringing, engaged or whatever tone being passed through
from
> > BT.
Engaged tone on a outgoing call will be due to a possibly 600 message being
recived by your ata. the reason for the call failing could be deduced from
the sip messages. or making an call to the number from an ISDN phone and
looking at the trace from that call.
> >
> Frequently the first ring tone is generated by the server you are
> connected to, which is why a failed connection can produce one ring tone
> and then an error tone.
> >
> >>Their SIP servers were giving authentication errors, It
> >>was a fault with their system.
I disabled my peer to Sipgate on Sunday morning due to the connection being
up and down like a w***** draws.
> >
> > Hmm, so why were only outgoing PSTN calls affected..? SIP to SIP and
> > incoming PSTN were fine.
> >
> I don't know, but I've got server logs you can look at (which were
> giving authentication errors when calling land lines but not when they
> were to sipgate numbers), maybe sipgate have a different authentication
> process for internal calls.
I would guess that the connection between sipgate and the Interconnect went
down.
Ie: Sipgates SER to the gateways AS5400 or whatever is being used.
>
> Maybe it wasn't sipgate at fault but someone further up the chain.
They still should be monitoring their interconnects. Other suppliers
possibly using the same gateway didnt have problems.
<brown@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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..
> Can we not get away from Sipgate for ever it is a very depressing
> subject and let them that love aggravation and poor service stay with
> them .
but ivor keeps this one going with his clear link to sipgate, why doesnt he
just admit it, i admit my connectiosn to various cmpanies god knows why he
doesnt, perhaps he likes to create an air of mystery.
Sipgate OK today? 
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