On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:16:52 +0000, Michael Chare wrote:
> Why might my Nokia VOIP mobile not be able to register itself with
> Sipgate?
What model is it? What software are you using? ISTR hearing grumblings
that the Nokia SIP implementation doesn't work behind NAT.
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"alexd" <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:16:52 +0000, Michael Chare wrote:
>
>> Why might my Nokia VOIP mobile not be able to register itself with
>> Sipgate?
>
> What model is it? What software are you using? ISTR hearing grumblings
> that the Nokia SIP implementation doesn't work behind NAT.
>
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It is an E65 and it has the latest firmware which I updated today.
"Michael Chare" <MunderscoreNEWS@chareDOTorg.uk> wrote in message
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> Why might my Nokia VOIP mobile not be able to register itself with
> Sipgate?
>
> The phone can establish a Wifi connection because the email works.
>
> I have done my best to enter the settings are per the sipgate website
> following the Nokia instructions.
>
> I have the sipgate 'light' PC software (on my PC) and that can dial the
> 10200 number to get a code for adding money to my account.
>
> One odd point I have noticed is that I get an error 916 when I try and add
> money to the account.
>
What a coincidence. I got the SIP Client in a Nokia E65 working today.
However, I had to replace the Vodafone firmware on the phone with generic
(non-Vodafone) firmware before it would work at all.
I've seen some suggestions that Vodafone cripple the SIP client in the Nokia
firmware so it only works when you connect via a Vodafone wireless access
point.
> What a coincidence. I got the SIP Client in a Nokia E65 working today.
> However, I had to replace the Vodafone firmware on the phone with generic
> (non-Vodafone) firmware before it would work at all.
>
> I've seen some suggestions that Vodafone cripple the SIP client in the
Nokia
> firmware so it only works when you connect via a Vodafone wireless access
> point.
This may be correct, but they were just having Wifi disabled by default, I
guess we might see why they are now allowing Wifi.
"Piers Finlayson" <news@packom.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Michael Chare" <MunderscoreNEWS@chareDOTorg.uk> wrote in message
> news:Mbudnd_k7u-I_BvanZ2dnUVZ8sGvnZ2d@pipex.net...
>> Why might my Nokia VOIP mobile not be able to register itself with
>> Sipgate?
>>
>> The phone can establish a Wifi connection because the email works.
>>
>> I have done my best to enter the settings are per the sipgate website
>> following the Nokia instructions.
>>
>> I have the sipgate 'light' PC software (on my PC) and that can dial the
>> 10200 number to get a code for adding money to my account.
>>
>> One odd point I have noticed is that I get an error 916 when I try and
>> add money to the account.
>>
>
> What a coincidence. I got the SIP Client in a Nokia E65 working today.
> However, I had to replace the Vodafone firmware on the phone with generic
> (non-Vodafone) firmware before it would work at all.
>
> I've seen some suggestions that Vodafone cripple the SIP client in the
> Nokia firmware so it only works when you connect via a Vodafone wireless
> access point.
I bought a SIM free phone which I am using with an old Virgin SIM, so I
guess I am using the standard Nokia software.
Having googled after alexd's reply I see that there have been problems
operating behind NAT routers. I don't know if this is my problem. There
have been promises by Nokia to have this fixed by now.
Are you running behind a NAT router? What VOIP service provider are you
using?
"Michael Chare" <MunderscoreNEWS@chareDOTorg.uk> wrote in message
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> "Piers Finlayson" <news@packom.net> wrote in message
> news:478677eb$0$21091$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>
>> "Michael Chare" <MunderscoreNEWS@chareDOTorg.uk> wrote in message
>> news:Mbudnd_k7u-I_BvanZ2dnUVZ8sGvnZ2d@pipex.net...
>>> Why might my Nokia VOIP mobile not be able to register itself with
>>> Sipgate?
>>>
>>> The phone can establish a Wifi connection because the email works.
>>>
>>> I have done my best to enter the settings are per the sipgate website
>>> following the Nokia instructions.
>>>
>>> I have the sipgate 'light' PC software (on my PC) and that can dial the
>>> 10200 number to get a code for adding money to my account.
>>>
>>> One odd point I have noticed is that I get an error 916 when I try and
>>> add money to the account.
>>>
>>
>> What a coincidence. I got the SIP Client in a Nokia E65 working today.
>> However, I had to replace the Vodafone firmware on the phone with generic
>> (non-Vodafone) firmware before it would work at all.
>>
>> I've seen some suggestions that Vodafone cripple the SIP client in the
>> Nokia firmware so it only works when you connect via a Vodafone wireless
>> access point.
>
> I bought a SIM free phone which I am using with an old Virgin SIM, so I
> guess I am using the standard Nokia software.
>
> Having googled after alexd's reply I see that there have been problems
> operating behind NAT routers. I don't know if this is my problem. There
> have been promises by Nokia to have this fixed by now.
>
> Are you running behind a NAT router? What VOIP service provider are you
> using?
>
Yes I am behind a NAT router, but I'm using a proprietary (private) provider
I'm afraid.
If I get a chance I'll see if I can get it working with Sipgate tomorrow.
In article <47866870$0$514$bed64819@news.gradwell.net>,
alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:16:52 +0000, Michael Chare wrote:
>
>> Why might my Nokia VOIP mobile not be able to register itself with
>> Sipgate?
>
>What model is it? What software are you using? ISTR hearing grumblings
>that the Nokia SIP implementation doesn't work behind NAT.
The E90 works OK behind NAT, although I don't quite know how as I
never gave it a STUN server, have no ports forwarded, not using uPNP,
etc. ... Not had time to sniff the packets though, to see how it's
doing it.
"Piers Finlayson" <news@packom.net> wrote in message
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>
> If I get a chance I'll see if I can get it working with Sipgate tomorrow.
Thanks, I shall look forward to hearing the outcome! At the moment even the
preconfigured Sipgate X-Lite PC software won't accept incoming calls (except
once!)
I only discovered the other day that you could get mobiles with VOIP as
well, and I thought it would be useful on holiday as often hotels have WiFi
networks.
It is such a good idea if only it would work!
"Michael Chare" <MunderscoreNEWS@chareDOTorg.uk> wrote in message
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> "Piers Finlayson" <news@packom.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> If I get a chance I'll see if I can get it working with Sipgate tomorrow.
>
>
> Thanks, I shall look forward to hearing the outcome! At the moment even
> the preconfigured Sipgate X-Lite PC software won't accept incoming calls
> (except once!)
>
Worked a treat with sipgate - nothing special over and above the sipgate
settings required. It does sound like you're having general network
problems though - given your X-lite problems.
"Piers Finlayson" <news@packom.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Michael Chare" <MunderscoreNEWS@chareDOTorg.uk> wrote in message
> news:V72dnay6T7OTPBvaRVnyjgA@pipex.net...
>> "Piers Finlayson" <news@packom.net> wrote in message
>> news:47869293$0$13934$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk...
>>>
>>> If I get a chance I'll see if I can get it working with Sipgate
>>> tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> Thanks, I shall look forward to hearing the outcome! At the moment even
>> the preconfigured Sipgate X-Lite PC software won't accept incoming calls
>> (except once!)
>>
>
> Worked a treat with sipgate - nothing special over and above the sipgate
> settings required. It does sound like you're having general network
> problems though - given your X-lite problems.
Thanks for the info. Right now there is some fault within Pipex which has
broken my ADSL connection.
X-lite did work with a BTinternet dial up connection, whether this is
because Sipgate have done something with my account after I complained about
not being able to add money or because I am avoiding my Speedtouch 510 NAT
router I don't yet know.
It is nice to know that the phone should work though. Thanks for your help.
"Michael Chare" <MunderscoreNEWS@chareDOTorg.uk> wrote in message
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Looks like my Speedtouch 510 is the cause of the problem. Google has found
a couple of possible fixes but they look to be more than a 2 minute job to
implement!
"Michael Chare" <MunderscoreNEWS@chareDOTorg.uk> wrote in message
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> "Michael Chare" <MunderscoreNEWS@chareDOTorg.uk> wrote in message
> news:ItWdnV9JRvOg0RranZ2dnUVZ8sijnZ2d@pipex.net...
>
> Looks like my Speedtouch 510 is the cause of the problem. Google has
> found a couple of possible fixes but they look to be more than a 2 minute
> job to implement!
>
Rings bells. I had to do something to my Speedtouch 546 before SIP would
work through it. The Speedtouch does some horrible things to SIP packets.
Off the top of I head I can't remember what I did, but I had to telnet into
the thing and poke around until I turned the SIP ALG function off.
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