Sipgate Security Code

I just put some credit into my Sipgate account for the first time and
had to call 10200 from my sip line to obtain a security code to be able
to process the payment.

Can anyone tell me why this should be necessary. What are they trying
to stop?
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Les Desser wrote:

> I just put some credit into my Sipgate account for the first time and
> had to call 10200 from my sip line to obtain a security code to be able
> to process the payment.
>
> Can anyone tell me why this should be necessary. What are they trying
> to stop?

Credit card fraud, presumably by bots.

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In article <1496373.A0EcjpTzTr@ale.cx>, alexd <look@my.sig> Thu, 17 Aug
2006 17:29:19 writes

>Les Desser wrote:
>
>> I just put some credit into my Sipgate account for the first time and
>> had to call 10200 from my sip line to obtain a security code to be able
>> to process the payment.
>>
>> Can anyone tell me why this should be necessary. What are they trying
>> to stop?
>
>Credit card fraud, presumably by bots.
>
Don't quite follow that.

I can see that the need to call would eliminate the possibility of bots
being involved, but I still do not see what type of fraud would be
involved that could not be equally well done by a human.


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"Les Desser" <NewsDump1@dessergroup.com> wrote in message
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[snip]

> I can see that the need to call would eliminate the
> possibility of bots being involved, but I still do not
> see what type of fraud would be involved that could not
> be equally well done by a human.

It only ever needs to be done once, the first time you ever credit the
account. Any further payments won't require a code.

Ivor

In article <4kkg6gFc1erbU1@individual.net>, Ivor Jones
<ivor@despammed.invalid> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 01:33:18 writes

>"Les Desser" <NewsDump1@dessergroup.com> wrote in message
>news:QqjkIAR8dM5EFAz0@dessergroup.com
>
>[snip]
>
>> I can see that the need to call would eliminate the
>> possibility of bots being involved, but I still do not
>> see what type of fraud would be involved that could not
>> be equally well done by a human.
>
>It only ever needs to be done once, the first time you ever credit the
>account. Any further payments won't require a code.
>
I accept that, but just like to understand what fraud (or other) is
being stopped by having this requirement.

Not something I will loose sleep over but just intrigued as to what harm
can be done by anyone crediting an account with some money.
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Les Desser wrote:

> I accept that, but just like to understand what fraud (or other) is
> being stopped by having this requirement.

a stupidity check that you are putting the money on the right account ?

Phil

In article <1155904917.994573.110660@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups .com>,
PhilT <newsnet@gmail.com> Fri, 18 Aug 2006 05:41:58 writes

>
>Les Desser wrote:
>
>> I accept that, but just like to understand what fraud (or other) is
>> being stopped by having this requirement.
>
>a stupidity check that you are putting the money on the right account ?
>
Possibly, but then I think it would be appropriate to do this on every
top-up. The only cause for confusion I can think of is someone having
several accounts, in which case the confusion could arise every time.


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