I recently got myself a sipgate account, and the voicemail is pathetic!
Everytime you call it you get either a different voice, a german women, or a
mixture of two or three voices all on the same session. Whats the crack
here then?? What a F**K up...
"Neil" <neil@nospam.thanks> wrote in message
news:3lcqfmF11p2egU1@individual.net...
> Hi,
>
> I recently got myself a sipgate account, and the voicemail is pathetic!
> Everytime you call it you get either a different voice, a german women, or
a
> mixture of two or three voices all on the same session. Whats the crack
> here then?? What a F**K up...
>
> Neil
>
>
Dont worry they are working on it, But hey it free..;-)
(BTW the above is meant as sarcasm)
And getting studio recorded voices is too expensive for them
Ian wrote:
> "Neil" <neil@nospam.thanks> wrote in message
> news:3lcqfmF11p2egU1@individual.net...
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I recently got myself a sipgate account, and the voicemail is pathetic!
>>Everytime you call it you get either a different voice, a german women, or
>
> a
>
>>mixture of two or three voices all on the same session. Whats the crack
>>here then?? What a F**K up...
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>
>
>
> Dont worry they are working on it, But hey it free..;-)
>
> (BTW the above is meant as sarcasm)
>
> And getting studio recorded voices is too expensive for them
>
And how anoyying is that voice that announces 'there has been and error'
when dialing half the time. He sounds like some chav trying to do BBC posh.
This company is so bad I've given up and left a fiver in my a/c as I
cannot put up with the problems any more. Trying vopifone now.
They should allow you to withdraw unspent cash or find a way to allow
you to donate to charity. I suspect this ain't a priority for them.
It is free, and I like the way it emails you the voice message as a
attachment, and you can record your own message.
"Neil" <neil@nospam.thanks> wrote in message
news:3lcqfmF11p2egU1@individual.net...
> Hi,
>
> I recently got myself a sipgate account, and the voicemail is pathetic!
> Everytime you call it you get either a different voice, a german women, or
> a mixture of two or three voices all on the same session. Whats the crack
> here then?? What a F**K up...
>
> Neil
>
>
"LanMan" <lanman@noworkie.com> wrote in message
news:3lcrn1F125hpkU1@individual.net...
> Ian wrote:
[snip]
>> Dont worry they are working on it, But hey it free..;-)
>>
>> (BTW the above is meant as sarcasm)
>>
>> And getting studio recorded voices is too expensive for them
Not so much that as time consuming. There are over 140 separate
announcements to record..!
> And how anoyying is that voice that announces 'there has been and error'
> when dialing half the time. He sounds like some chav trying to do BBC
> posh.
Half the time..? As in 50%..? I have never heard this message in nearly 12
months of using Sipgate. By the law of averages I should have done a few
times by now.
> This company is so bad I've given up and left a fiver in my a/c as I
> cannot put up with the problems any more. Trying vopifone now.
I know people think I have some financial interest in Sipgate, but
honestly I don't..! But although I have had problems I haven't experienced
half the troubles that some people seem to.
> They should allow you to withdraw unspent cash or find a way to allow
> you to donate to charity. I suspect this ain't a priority for them.
LanMan wrote:
> Ian wrote:
>
>> "Neil" <neil@nospam.thanks> wrote in message
>> news:3lcqfmF11p2egU1@individual.net...
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I recently got myself a sipgate account, and the voicemail is pathetic!
>>> Everytime you call it you get either a different voice, a german
>>> women, or
>>
>>
>> a
>>
>>> mixture of two or three voices all on the same session. Whats the crack
>>> here then?? What a F**K up...
>>>
>>> Neil
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Dont worry they are working on it, But hey it free..;-)
>>
>> (BTW the above is meant as sarcasm)
>>
>> And getting studio recorded voices is too expensive for them
>>
> And how anoyying is that voice that announces 'there has been and error'
> when dialing half the time. He sounds like some chav trying to do BBC posh.
>
> This company is so bad I've given up and left a fiver in my a/c as I
> cannot put up with the problems any more. Trying vopifone now.
>
> They should allow you to withdraw unspent cash or find a way to allow
> you to donate to charity. I suspect this ain't a priority for them.
>
Can you please email me? I want to have a chat to you about voipfone!
"George" <geodabass@hotORNOTmail.com> wrote in message
news:dcrfc3$hs2$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
>
>>
>>>He sounds like some chav trying to do BBC posh.
>>
>> Whats a Chav? Lanman
>>
>> Neil
>
> A Chav - Known north of the border as a ned. They generally dress in
> sportswear and Burberry. See the link below for more details!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
>
> George
Arrh, thanks for that George!
'male chav may sometimes be referred to as a chavster and a female as a
chavette'
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 23:06:29 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>Not so much that as time consuming. There are over 140 separate
>announcements to record..!
Each lasting an average of, may be, 30 seconds max. That's 70 minutes
recording time per country... over a year+ you'd have thought that
they'd have gotten around to this instead of still presenting German
voicemail and error messages to UK users... ;-)
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> A Chav - Known north of the border as a ned. They generally dress in
> sportswear and Burberry. See the link below for more details!
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "LanMan" <lanman@noworkie.com> wrote in message
> news:3lcrn1F125hpkU1@individual.net...
> > Ian wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >> Dont worry they are working on it, But hey it free..;-)
> >>
> >> (BTW the above is meant as sarcasm)
> >>
> >> And getting studio recorded voices is too expensive for them
>
> Not so much that as time consuming. There are over 140 separate
> announcements to record..!
Sorry Ivor that is total C*** , If they are apply to pay they can get them
done by the voice of Asterisk, and any way 140 words is nothing. Having had
to create IVRs with more phrases than that, it doesnt take long i can tell
you. and any way all the messages are there in any * sounds directory all
they need to do is learn to copy them over!!
Al wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 23:10:18 +0100, George wrote:
>
>> A Chav - Known north of the border as a ned. They generally dress
>> in sportswear and Burberry. See the link below for more details!
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
>
> Thanks. In this newsgroup we call them a Dexter.
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:3ldvseF129ladU1@individual.net...
> Al wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 23:10:18 +0100, George wrote:
>>
>>> A Chav - Known north of the border as a ned. They generally dress
>>> in sportswear and Burberry. See the link below for more details!
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
>>
>> Thanks. In this newsgroup we call them a Dexter.
>
> ROTFLMAO..!
>
> Ivor
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "LanMan" <lanman@noworkie.com> wrote in message
> news:3lcrn1F125hpkU1@individual.net...
> > Ian wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> >> Dont worry they are working on it, But hey it free..;-)
> >>
> >> (BTW the above is meant as sarcasm)
> >>
> >> And getting studio recorded voices is too expensive for them
>
> Not so much that as time consuming. There are over 140 separate
> announcements to record..!
>
> > And how anoyying is that voice that announces 'there has been and error'
> > when dialing half the time. He sounds like some chav trying to do BBC
> > posh.
>
> Half the time..? As in 50%..? I have never heard this message in nearly 12
> months of using Sipgate. By the law of averages I should have done a few
> times by now.
>
> > This company is so bad I've given up and left a fiver in my a/c as I
> > cannot put up with the problems any more. Trying vopifone now.
>
> I know people think I have some financial interest in Sipgate, but
> honestly I don't..! But although I have had problems I haven't experienced
> half the troubles that some people seem to.
>
> > They should allow you to withdraw unspent cash or find a way to allow
> > you to donate to charity. I suspect this ain't a priority for them.
>
> A good idea..! Email them and suggest it..!
>
> Ivor
I don't usually post anything to these groups and usually prefer just
reading them but I have to say that in my opinion you are either a very
ignorant customer or simply a Sipgate employee. I have seen your posts
all over the place defending or arbitrarily praising Sipgate.
I have nothing against Sipgate personally but I do have to say their
service is simply not up to scratch but your attitude is really causing
harm and misconception out there. There are plenty of good providers in
the UK alone and I am not going to mention any for fear of being
accused of favoritism. You are potentially harming peoples attitude to
VoIP with the position that a half-baked, unprofessional communications
service can be acceptable. VoIP has moved on... There are providers out
there who take care to record the announcements in their voicemail
service, check that their outgoing calls work reasonably, take quality
seriously and take support seriously. Sipgate too busy with support
enquiries to always guarantee quality response?....tough. And you're
out here posing as a customer who's willing to live with a provider who
admit their service is not ready and is being sorted out?
I may be victimising you here but in my opinion you're simply a Sipgate
employee using Google Groups to promote the service so no level of
criticism is too great....pathetic. If you're not an employee, then
take my advice, seek VoIP service elsewhere cause there are plenty
offering a usable service. If all you're worried about is a free
service, then get yourself two cups of plastic and a string my friend.
>
> I don't usually post anything to these groups and usually prefer just
> reading them but I have to say that in my opinion you are either a very
> ignorant customer or simply a Sipgate employee. I have seen your posts
> all over the place defending or arbitrarily praising Sipgate.
>
He could have just genuinely not had a problem with them over the twelve
months.
I have only been using them a few months, but quite regularly (well, 387
minutes in the past 6 days to give you some idea), and I haven't had any
problems.
Mind you, my setup is probably not typical, the client that talks to
their servers is asterisk and it is not behind a firewall (so I don't
need to use their STUN server, although it is configured).
I don't use their voicemail service, I use the one inbuilt in asterisk.
I'm sure there service was probably not up to scratch before I started
using them (as is any new technology company, can anyone else remember
when to use the internet you had to choose either demon or pipex?), but
It's been fantastic here.
> I have nothing against Sipgate personally but I do have to say their
> service is simply not up to scratch but your attitude is really causing
> harm and misconception out there. There are plenty of good providers in
> the UK alone and I am not going to mention any for fear of being
> accused of favoritism> You are potentially harming peoples attitude to
> VoIP with the position that a half-baked, unprofessional communications
> service can be acceptable. VoIP has moved on... There are providers out
> there who take care to record the announcements in their voicemail
> service, check that their outgoing calls work reasonably, take quality
> seriously and take support seriously. Sipgate too busy with support
> enquiries to always guarantee quality response?....tough. And you're
> out here posing as a customer who's willing to live with a provider who
> admit their service is not ready and is being sorted out?
>
Which service, the voicemail? Do you prefer closed beta testing?
> I may be victimising you here but in my opinion you're simply a Sipgate
> employee using Google Groups to promote the service so no level of
> criticism is too great....pathetic.
This is usenet, there are always people that are insitant that the
product they use is the best, in the same way that Dexter thinks that
Vonage is fantastic. (I'm not arguing that they are or are not).
> If you're not an employee, then
> take my advice, seek VoIP service elsewhere cause there are plenty
> offering a usable service. If all you're worried about is a free
> service, then get yourself two cups of plastic and a string my friend.
>
Maybe he finds their service useable. I do.
> I don't usually post anything to these groups and usually prefer
> just reading them but I have to say that in my opinion you are
> either a very ignorant customer or simply a Sipgate employee. I
> have seen your posts all over the place defending or arbitrarily
> praising Sipgate.
I am satisfied with their service. If you are not, fine, go elsewhere,
nobody is stopping you..! If I want to defend them I will do so.
I've said before, I am not an employee and I have no financial or other
business interests in Sipgate. Believe me or do the other thing but I am
simply a customer who is by and large satisfied with the service. Yes they
have problems but so does everyone at some time or other.
> I have nothing against Sipgate personally but I do have to say their
> service is simply not up to scratch but your attitude is really
> causing harm and misconception out there. There are plenty of good
> providers in the UK alone and I am not going to mention any for
> fear of being accused of favoritism. You are potentially harming
> peoples attitude to VoIP with the position that a half-baked,
> unprofessional communications service can be acceptable.
If you consider it half baked and unprofessional that is your prerogative,
nobody is forcing you to use it. If anything, it is your statement that
they are half baked and unprofessional that could cause harm, causing
people to bypass them without giving them a fair trial. If someone tries
them and comes to that conclusion, so be it, but give them the chance to
try for themselves.
Like I said, there have been a few problems, but by and large I am happy
with the service. Believe me or don't, I couldn't care less.
> I may be victimising you here but in my opinion you're simply a
> Sipgate employee using Google Groups to promote the service so no
> level of criticism is too great....pathetic. If you're not an
> employee, then take my advice, seek VoIP service elsewhere cause
> there are plenty offering a usable service. If all you're worried
> about is a free service, then get yourself two cups of plastic and
> a string my friend.
Firstly, please don't worry that you are victimising me, I have a thick
skin and have taken much worse than anything you can give out.
Secondly I have used Google Groups once in my life, when I was on holiday
in the USA, so where you got that one from is a mystery to me.
Thirdly, I do not need or want your advice.
Lastly, I am very happy with my service and don't need your advice to go
elsewhere.
Thomas Rankin wrote:
> bence_fab wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't usually post anything to these groups and usually prefer just
> > reading them but I have to say that in my opinion you are either a very
> > ignorant customer or simply a Sipgate employee. I have seen your posts
> > all over the place defending or arbitrarily praising Sipgate.
> >
> He could have just genuinely not had a problem with them over the twelve
> months.
If he hasn't had a problem in the last 12 months, great. But the level
of support he has shown in other posts and especially here with regard
to recording the announcements is just too much.
As an example, if someone's mobile provider constantly delivered bad
service because signal in their area was low I'd advise them to seek
another not assure them that they'll get it sorted out soon even though
I was getting good service from that provider in my area.
> >
> Which service, the voicemail? Do you prefer closed beta testing?
>
Beta testing is one thing, but being unprepared is another.
> This is usenet, there are always people that are insitant that the
> product they use is the best, in the same way that Dexter thinks that
> Vonage is fantastic. (I'm not arguing that they are or are not).
>
> Maybe he finds their service useable. I do.
Fair enough, I just find the frequency of his support too strange. In
this particular case I just can't understand how a customer can defend
the way this voicemail service has been delivered.
It's still my opinion that said person is a Sipgate employee.
Recommending Sipgate and extolling their virtues is one thing. But
defending them at all costs and promoting is another. Of course this is
Usenet and everyone's free to express their opinion. I'm just
questioning the fervor with which he does it, that's all...it's too
weird.
On 6 Aug 2005 03:28:42 -0700, "bence_fab" <orsolyka@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>It's still my opinion that said person is a Sipgate employee.
Ivor says this is not the case, but has admitted to some other
"connection" with Sipgate that he won't clarify. Perhaps he sleeps
with the CEO or something :-)
Phil
--
Remember - Global Warming is only a weather forecast :-)
It's weird how the majority of posts about sipgate are about how crap their
service yet you are bent on defending them. Their support is attrocious and
everyone knows it. Their service works "most of the time" but it can hardly
be classified as "reliable". My concern is that you give other readers on
this newsgroup a completely incorrect view of them.
You're the guy who also said "sipgate will come good" re an article by pc
pro which was pathetic. If you are not an employee then you must be an
investor of some kind.
Mike
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:3lie73F12tm3uU1@individual.net...
> bence_fab wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> > I don't usually post anything to these groups and usually prefer
> > just reading them but I have to say that in my opinion you are
> > either a very ignorant customer or simply a Sipgate employee. I
> > have seen your posts all over the place defending or arbitrarily
> > praising Sipgate.
>
> I am satisfied with their service. If you are not, fine, go elsewhere,
> nobody is stopping you..! If I want to defend them I will do so.
>
> I've said before, I am not an employee and I have no financial or other
> business interests in Sipgate. Believe me or do the other thing but I am
> simply a customer who is by and large satisfied with the service. Yes they
> have problems but so does everyone at some time or other.
>
> > I have nothing against Sipgate personally but I do have to say their
> > service is simply not up to scratch but your attitude is really
> > causing harm and misconception out there. There are plenty of good
> > providers in the UK alone and I am not going to mention any for
> > fear of being accused of favoritism. You are potentially harming
> > peoples attitude to VoIP with the position that a half-baked,
> > unprofessional communications service can be acceptable.
>
> If you consider it half baked and unprofessional that is your prerogative,
> nobody is forcing you to use it. If anything, it is your statement that
> they are half baked and unprofessional that could cause harm, causing
> people to bypass them without giving them a fair trial. If someone tries
> them and comes to that conclusion, so be it, but give them the chance to
> try for themselves.
>
> Like I said, there have been a few problems, but by and large I am happy
> with the service. Believe me or don't, I couldn't care less.
>
> > I may be victimising you here but in my opinion you're simply a
> > Sipgate employee using Google Groups to promote the service so no
> > level of criticism is too great....pathetic. If you're not an
> > employee, then take my advice, seek VoIP service elsewhere cause
> > there are plenty offering a usable service. If all you're worried
> > about is a free service, then get yourself two cups of plastic and
> > a string my friend.
>
> Firstly, please don't worry that you are victimising me, I have a thick
> skin and have taken much worse than anything you can give out.
>
> Secondly I have used Google Groups once in my life, when I was on holiday
> in the USA, so where you got that one from is a mystery to me.
>
> Thirdly, I do not need or want your advice.
>
> Lastly, I am very happy with my service and don't need your advice to go
> elsewhere.
>
>
> Ivor
>
>
"Phil Thompson" <phil.thompson@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:i159f1919s36cnbg8to6p2648cntgicac0@4ax.com...
> On 6 Aug 2005 03:28:42 -0700, "bence_fab" <orsolyka@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>It's still my opinion that said person is a Sipgate employee.
>
> Ivor says this is not the case, but has admitted to some other
> "connection" with Sipgate that he won't clarify. Perhaps he sleeps
> with the CEO or something :-)
>
> Phil
> --
> Remember - Global Warming is only a weather forecast :-)
bence_fab wrote:
> Is there another Ivor Jones then? cause when I look up the statistics
> for this group here:
>
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....ip/about?hl=en
>
> you are the all-time top user (granted, second-highest this month six
> days in). That one time in your life must have been quite a big
> session...
>
> Honestly, maybe I confused you with another Ivor or I misunderstood
> this statement of yours.
I think that you are probabyl confused about what usenet is and how
Google Groups archives it, produces stats. The stats you've linked to
are about usage of uk.telecom.voip, not usage of Google Groups.
In message of Sat, 6 Aug 2005, bence_fab writes
>>>Secondly I have used Google Groups once in my life, when I was on holiday
>in the USA, so where you got that one from is a mystery to me.
>
>Is there another Ivor Jones then? cause when I look up the statistics
>for this group here:
>
>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....ip/about?hl=en
>
>you are the all-time top user (granted, second-highest this month six
>days in). That one time in your life must have been quite a big
>session...
>
>Honestly, maybe I confused you with another Ivor or I misunderstood
>this statement of yours.
>
Your confusing Usenet with Google. People have various ways of reading
and posting to Newsgroups - I venture to say that most do not use Google
to do so. Just because you are using Google doesn't mean that everybody
who uses Usenet is posting with Google - far from it.
I think that's beside the point. I simply pointed out that Ivor posts
about Sipgate frequently .Whether he uses the web or Usenet, I don't
really care.
bence_fab wrote:
> I think that's beside the point. I simply pointed out that Ivor posts
> about Sipgate frequently .Whether he uses the web or Usenet, I don't
> really care.
That's not actually what you said.
bence_fab wrote:
> I may be victimising you here but in my opinion you're simply a
> Sipgate employee using Google Groups to promote the service so no
> level of criticism is too great....pathetic.
bence_fab wrote:
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>> Secondly I have used Google Groups once in my life, when I was on
>> holiday in the USA, so where you got that one from is a mystery to
>> me.
>
> Is there another Ivor Jones then? cause when I look up the statistics
> for this group here:
>
> http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....ip/about?hl=en
>
> you are the all-time top user (granted, second-highest this month six
> days in). That one time in your life must have been quite a big
> session...
Well, I'm happy to accept the correction (simply substitutute google
with usenet or news whatever you like). Like I said I don't usually
post, just read so I don't know much about how it all actually works.
But my point still remains...and if you search the archive the evidence
is there.
"Phil Thompson" <phil.thompson@spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:she9f19mkvf23tkl2c97rt21p4v7iff7e7@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 12:38:36 GMT, "PhilÅ" <iclgateway@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>R U the one with the big nose??
>
> I don't care, Ivor chose to tempt us with the snippet of information.
>
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