Anyone using this ATA with the viopcheap.co.uk service? There seems to
be so many settings on this adapter! as anyone got this device
configured to work at it best with this provider, if so would they be
kind enough to post the config for me?
bob garbutt wrote:
> hi,
>
> Anyone using this ATA with the viopcheap.co.uk service? There seems to
> be so many settings on this adapter! as anyone got this device
> configured to work at it best with this provider, if so would they be
> kind enough to post the config for me?
>
> Cheers, Bob
This is what I have for a Linksys PAP2, should find similar settings:
Ring Waveform: Sinusoid (though Trapezoid may help problematic phones to
ring).
Ring Frequency: 25
Ring Voltage: 80 (You can use 70, if problems try 75, 80, 85, 90)
CWT Frequency: 425@-20
Synchronized Ring: Yes
Hook Flash Timer Min: .06
Hook Flash Timer Max: .2
Callee On Hook Delay: 0
Reorder Delay: 5
Call Back Expires: 1800
Call Back Retry Intvl: 30
Call Back Delay: .5
VMWI Refresh Intvl: 0
Interdigit Long Timer: 10
Interdigit Short Timer: 3
CPC Delay: .5
CPC Duration: .1
....
Time Zone: GMT
FXS Port Impedance: 370+620||310nF
Daylight Saving Time Rule:
start=3/-1/7/2:0:0;end=10/-1/7/2:0:0;save=1:0:0
DTMF Playback Level: -16
DTMF Playback Length: .25
Caller ID Method: ETSI FSK With PR(UK)
FXS Port Power Limit: 3
Caller ID FSK Standard: v.23
Feature Invocation Method: Default
More Echo Suppression: yes
In Line 1 (or Line 2)
Line Enable: yes
NAT Mapping Enable: yes
NAT Keep Alive Enable: yes
Network Jitter Level: low (Depends on how good your broadband is / route
to VoIP server)
Jitter Buffer Adjustment: Up and Down
Proxy and Registration
Proxy: Your Voip Proxy address (for example sip1.sipdiscount.com or
sip.voipcheap.com or sipgate.co.uk etc)
Subscriber Information - (where you enter your VoIP Account details).
Supplementary Service Subscription - This is where you enable services
such as Call Waiting, 3-Way Calling, block anonymous caller etc)
Audio Configuration - This is where you set-up which codecs you want to
use or only use.
If you have limited broadband speed (mostly if upload is poor) then you
probably only use one or more from G729a, G723 or G726)
If you want the best quality line, then you'd choose G711a (which is the
standard used on a standard line)
(Myself, I use G711a only, have that set to my preferred codec and use
that one only, but you may find other codecs are fine).
DTMF Tx Method: (This will depend on the VoIP service you use, trial and
error and depends on codec) Soon know if it don't work when
try telephone banking for example and it
doesn't recognise what numbers you are pressing).
Hook Flash Tx Method: None
Dial Plan: (This is based on using
VoIpCheap/VoIPStunt/VoIPDiscount/VoIPBuster etc)
You will need to modify for you local area code etc...
The number after <999: is the number to dial if you dial 999 - in my
dial plan it is WM Police, the Betamax service doesn't offer 999 calling
so shouldn't be used for emergencies as such, but if someone did dial
999 this would at least route somewhere.
<:0044121>[2-8]xxxxxx
This allows me to dial local Birmingham numbers without 0121 or 0044121,
you would change 0044121 to your areacode in international format if
using the Betamax services
[2-8] means allow local numbers to begin with any digital between 2 and
8 inc, you may need to change that to 2-9 if local number can start with
a 9
xxxxxx this is the number of digits that remain after the first digit
in the local number for example
809 2222 8 is the first digit and there are 6 digits left in the
number.
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> bob garbutt wrote:
>> hi,
>>
>> Anyone using this ATA with the viopcheap.co.uk service? There seems to
>> be so many settings on this adapter! as anyone got this device
>> configured to work at it best with this provider, if so would they be
>> kind enough to post the config for me?
>>
>> Cheers, Bob
>
> This is what I have for a Linksys PAP2, should find similar settings:
>
> Under Regional Tab.
>
> Dial Tone: 350@-19,440@-22;60(*/0/1+2)
> Second Dial Tone: 420@-19,520@-19;10(*/0/1+2)
> Outside Dial Tone: 420@-16;10(*/0/1)
> Prompt Tone: 520@-19,620@-19;10(*/0/1+2)
> Busy Tone: 400@-10;30(.375/.375/1)
> Reorder Tone: 400@-20;20(*/0/1)
> Off Hook Warning Tone: 480@-10,620@0;10(.125/.125/1+2)
> Ring Back Tone: 400@-20,450@-20;*(.4/.2/1+2,.4/2/1+2)
> Confirm Tone: 600@-16;1(.25/.25/1)
> SIT1 Tone: 950@-16,1400@-16,1800@-16;20(.330/0/1,.330/0/2,.330/0/3,0/1/0)
> SIT2 Tone: 914@-16,1371@-16,1777@-16;20(.274/0/1,.274/0/2,.380/0/3,0/4/0)
> SIT3 Tone: 914@-16,1371@-16,1777@-16;20(.380/0/1,.380/0/2,.380/0/3,0/4/0)
> SIT4 Tone: 985@-16,1371@-16,1777@-16;20(.380/0/1,.274/0/2,.380/0/3,0/4/0)
> MWI Dial Tone: 350@-19,440@-22;10(.75/.75/1+2)
> Cfwd Dial Tone: 350@-19,440@-19;2(.2/.2/1+2);10(*/0/1+2)
> DND Dial Tone: 350@-19,440@-19;2(.2/.2/2);10(*/0/1+2)
> Holding Tone: 600@-19;*(.1/.1/1,.1/.1/1,.1/9.5/1)
> Conference Tone: 350@-19;20(.1/.1/1,.1/9.7/1)
> Secure Call Indication Tone: 397@-19,507@-19;15(0/2/0,.2/.1/1,.1/2.1/2)
> Feature Invocation Tone: 350@-16;*(.1/.1/1)
>
> Ring1 Cadence: 60(.4/.2,.4/2)
> Ring2 Cadence: 60(1/2)
> Ring3 Cadence: 60(.25/.25,.25/.25,.25/1.75)
>
> ...
>
> CWT1 Cadence: 30(.2/.2,.2/4.4)
>
> Ring Waveform: Sinusoid (though Trapezoid may help problematic phones to
> ring).
> Ring Frequency: 25
> Ring Voltage: 80 (You can use 70, if problems try 75, 80, 85, 90)
> CWT Frequency: 425@-20
> Synchronized Ring: Yes
>
> Hook Flash Timer Min: .06
> Hook Flash Timer Max: .2
> Callee On Hook Delay: 0
> Reorder Delay: 5
> Call Back Expires: 1800
> Call Back Retry Intvl: 30
> Call Back Delay: .5
> VMWI Refresh Intvl: 0
> Interdigit Long Timer: 10
> Interdigit Short Timer: 3
> CPC Delay: .5
> CPC Duration: .1
>
> ...
>
> Time Zone: GMT
> FXS Port Impedance: 370+620||310nF
> Daylight Saving Time Rule: start=3/-1/7/2:0:0;end=10/-1/7/2:0:0;save=1:0:0
> DTMF Playback Level: -16
> DTMF Playback Length: .25
> Caller ID Method: ETSI FSK With PR(UK)
> FXS Port Power Limit: 3
> Caller ID FSK Standard: v.23
> Feature Invocation Method: Default
> More Echo Suppression: yes
>
> In Line 1 (or Line 2)
>
> Line Enable: yes
> NAT Mapping Enable: yes
> NAT Keep Alive Enable: yes
> Network Jitter Level: low (Depends on how good your broadband is / route
> to VoIP server)
> Jitter Buffer Adjustment: Up and Down
>
>
> Proxy and Registration
> Proxy: Your Voip Proxy address (for example sip1.sipdiscount.com or
> sip.voipcheap.com or sipgate.co.uk etc)
>
> Subscriber Information - (where you enter your VoIP Account details).
>
> Supplementary Service Subscription - This is where you enable services
> such as Call Waiting, 3-Way Calling, block anonymous caller etc)
>
> Audio Configuration - This is where you set-up which codecs you want to
> use or only use.
> If you have limited broadband speed (mostly if upload is poor) then you
> probably only use one or more from G729a, G723 or G726)
> If you want the best quality line, then you'd choose G711a (which is the
> standard used on a standard line)
>
> (Myself, I use G711a only, have that set to my preferred codec and use
> that one only, but you may find other codecs are fine).
>
> DTMF Tx Method: (This will depend on the VoIP service you use, trial and
> error and depends on codec) Soon know if it don't work when
> try telephone banking for example and it
> doesn't recognise what numbers you are pressing).
>
> Hook Flash Tx Method: None
>
> Dial Plan: (This is based on using
> VoIpCheap/VoIPStunt/VoIPDiscount/VoIPBuster etc)
>
> (*xx|0|00|<0:0044>[1-8]xx.|<999:00441216874070>S0|<:0044121>[2-8]xxxxxx|xx.)
>
>
> You will need to modify for you local area code etc...
> The number after <999: is the number to dial if you dial 999 - in my
> dial plan it is WM Police, the Betamax service doesn't offer 999 calling
> so shouldn't be used for emergencies as such, but if someone did dial
> 999 this would at least route somewhere.
>
> <:0044121>[2-8]xxxxxx
> This allows me to dial local Birmingham numbers without 0121 or 0044121,
> you would change 0044121 to your areacode in international format if
> using the Betamax services
> [2-8] means allow local numbers to begin with any digital between 2 and
> 8 inc, you may need to change that to 2-9 if local number can start with
> a 9
> xxxxxx this is the number of digits that remain after the first digit
> in the local number for example
> 809 2222 8 is the first digit and there are 6 digits left in the number.
>
>
thanks for your help, I'll print this out have a look at my settings, I
want to be able to use voipcheap.co.uk to receive call because I have a
geo number from them for that account and use vopcheap.com to make
outgoing calls, because they offer more free call, what would be the
best way to set that up, want to use my dect phone thats connected to
vonage at the moment
bob garbutt wrote:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>> bob garbutt wrote:
> thanks for your help, I'll print this out have a look at my settings, I
> want to be able to use voipcheap.co.uk to receive call because I have a
> geo number from them for that account and use vopcheap.com to make
> outgoing calls, because they offer more free call, what would be the
> best way to set that up, want to use my dect phone thats connected to
> vonage at the moment
Careful Bob. You mentioned three different companies in that message.
Ivor will be after you for spamming ;-)
bob garbutt wrote:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>> bob garbutt wrote:
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> Anyone using this ATA with the viopcheap.co.uk service? There seems
>>> to be so many settings on this adapter! as anyone got this device
>>> configured to work at it best with this provider, if so would they
>>> be kind enough to post the config for me?
>>>
>>> Cheers, Bob
>>
>> This is what I have for a Linksys PAP2, should find similar settings:
>>
>> Under Regional Tab.
>>
>> Dial Tone: 350@-19,440@-22;60(*/0/1+2)
>> Second Dial Tone: 420@-19,520@-19;10(*/0/1+2)
>> Outside Dial Tone: 420@-16;10(*/0/1)
>> Prompt Tone: 520@-19,620@-19;10(*/0/1+2)
>> Busy Tone: 400@-10;30(.375/.375/1)
>> Reorder Tone: 400@-20;20(*/0/1)
>> Off Hook Warning Tone: 480@-10,620@0;10(.125/.125/1+2)
>> Ring Back Tone: 400@-20,450@-20;*(.4/.2/1+2,.4/2/1+2)
>> Confirm Tone: 600@-16;1(.25/.25/1)
>> SIT1 Tone:
>> 950@-16,1400@-16,1800@-16;20(.330/0/1,.330/0/2,.330/0/3,0/1/0) SIT2
>> Tone: 914@-16,1371@-16,1777@-16;20(.274/0/1,.274/0/2,.380/0/3,0/4/0)
>> SIT3 Tone:
>> 914@-16,1371@-16,1777@-16;20(.380/0/1,.380/0/2,.380/0/3,0/4/0) SIT4
>> Tone: 985@-16,1371@-16,1777@-16;20(.380/0/1,.274/0/2,.380/0/3,0/4/0)
>> MWI Dial Tone: 350@-19,440@-22;10(.75/.75/1+2) Cfwd Dial Tone:
>> 350@-19,440@-19;2(.2/.2/1+2);10(*/0/1+2)
>> DND Dial Tone: 350@-19,440@-19;2(.2/.2/2);10(*/0/1+2)
>> Holding Tone: 600@-19;*(.1/.1/1,.1/.1/1,.1/9.5/1)
>> Conference Tone: 350@-19;20(.1/.1/1,.1/9.7/1)
>> Secure Call Indication Tone:
>> 397@-19,507@-19;15(0/2/0,.2/.1/1,.1/2.1/2) Feature Invocation Tone:
>> 350@-16;*(.1/.1/1) Ring1 Cadence: 60(.4/.2,.4/2)
>> Ring2 Cadence: 60(1/2)
>> Ring3 Cadence: 60(.25/.25,.25/.25,.25/1.75)
>>
>> ...
>>
>> CWT1 Cadence: 30(.2/.2,.2/4.4)
>>
>> Ring Waveform: Sinusoid (though Trapezoid may help problematic
>> phones to ring).
>> Ring Frequency: 25
>> Ring Voltage: 80 (You can use 70, if problems try 75, 80, 85, 90)
>> CWT Frequency: 425@-20
>> Synchronized Ring: Yes
>>
>> Hook Flash Timer Min: .06
>> Hook Flash Timer Max: .2
>> Callee On Hook Delay: 0
>> Reorder Delay: 5
>> Call Back Expires: 1800
>> Call Back Retry Intvl: 30
>> Call Back Delay: .5
>> VMWI Refresh Intvl: 0
>> Interdigit Long Timer: 10
>> Interdigit Short Timer: 3
>> CPC Delay: .5
>> CPC Duration: .1
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Time Zone: GMT
>> FXS Port Impedance: 370+620||310nF
>> Daylight Saving Time Rule:
>> start=3/-1/7/2:0:0;end=10/-1/7/2:0:0;save=1:0:0 DTMF Playback Level:
>> -16 DTMF Playback Length: .25
>> Caller ID Method: ETSI FSK With PR(UK)
>> FXS Port Power Limit: 3
>> Caller ID FSK Standard: v.23
>> Feature Invocation Method: Default
>> More Echo Suppression: yes
>>
>> In Line 1 (or Line 2)
>>
>> Line Enable: yes
>> NAT Mapping Enable: yes
>> NAT Keep Alive Enable: yes
>> Network Jitter Level: low (Depends on how good your broadband is /
>> route to VoIP server)
>> Jitter Buffer Adjustment: Up and Down
>>
>>
>> Proxy and Registration
>> Proxy: Your Voip Proxy address (for example sip1.sipdiscount.com or
>> sip.voipcheap.com or sipgate.co.uk etc)
>>
>> Subscriber Information - (where you enter your VoIP Account details).
>>
>> Supplementary Service Subscription - This is where you enable
>> services such as Call Waiting, 3-Way Calling, block anonymous caller
>> etc) Audio Configuration - This is where you set-up which codecs you
>> want
>> to use or only use.
>> If you have limited broadband speed (mostly if upload is poor) then
>> you probably only use one or more from G729a, G723 or G726)
>> If you want the best quality line, then you'd choose G711a (which is
>> the standard used on a standard line)
>>
>> (Myself, I use G711a only, have that set to my preferred codec and
>> use that one only, but you may find other codecs are fine).
>>
>> DTMF Tx Method: (This will depend on the VoIP service you use, trial
>> and error and depends on codec) Soon know if it don't work when
>> try telephone banking for example and it
>> doesn't recognise what numbers you are pressing).
>>
>> Hook Flash Tx Method: None
>>
>> Dial Plan: (This is based on using
>> VoIpCheap/VoIPStunt/VoIPDiscount/VoIPBuster etc)
>>
>> (*xx|0|00|<0:0044>[1-8]xx.|<999:00441216874070>S0|<:0044121>[2-8]xxxxxx|xx.)
>>
>>
>> You will need to modify for you local area code etc...
>> The number after <999: is the number to dial if you dial 999 - in my
>> dial plan it is WM Police, the Betamax service doesn't offer 999
>> calling so shouldn't be used for emergencies as such, but if someone
>> did dial 999 this would at least route somewhere.
>>
>> <:0044121>[2-8]xxxxxx
>> This allows me to dial local Birmingham numbers without 0121 or
>> 0044121, you would change 0044121 to your areacode in international
>> format if using the Betamax services
>> [2-8] means allow local numbers to begin with any digital between 2
>> and 8 inc, you may need to change that to 2-9 if local number can
>> start with a 9
>> xxxxxx this is the number of digits that remain after the first
>> digit in the local number for example
>> 809 2222 8 is the first digit and there are 6 digits left in the
>> number.
> thanks for your help, I'll print this out have a look at my settings,
> I want to be able to use voipcheap.co.uk to receive call because I
> have a geo number from them for that account and use vopcheap.com to
> make outgoing calls, because they offer more free call, what would be
> the best way to set that up, want to use my dect phone thats
> connected to vonage at the moment
Afraid I've only set-up PAP2s, though I'm sure someone will be along
shortly with details as the SPAs are a popular device.
On 2007-06-11, {{{{{Welcome}}}}} <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> bob garbutt wrote:
>> thanks for your help, I'll print this out have a look at my settings,
>> I want to be able to use voipcheap.co.uk to receive call because I
>> have a geo number from them for that account and use vopcheap.com to
>> make outgoing calls, because they offer more free call, what would be
>> the best way to set that up, want to use my dect phone thats
>> connected to vonage at the moment
>
>
> Afraid I've only set-up PAP2s, though I'm sure someone will be along
> shortly with details as the SPAs are a popular device.
I've never used one of these either but setting the two lines up does
not appear too dissimilar to a PAP2. There is a guide at
"Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
news:SfCdnWMORfvAEvDbnZ2dnUVZ8tfinZ2d@pipex.net
> bob garbutt wrote:
> > {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> > > bob garbutt wrote:
>
> > thanks for your help, I'll print this out have a look
> > at my settings, I want to be able to use
> > voipcheap.co.uk to receive call because I have a geo
> > number from them for that account and use vopcheap.com
> > to make outgoing calls, because they offer more free
> > call, what would be the best way to set that up, want
> > to use my dect phone thats connected to vonage at the
> > moment
>
> Careful Bob. You mentioned three different companies in
> that message. Ivor will be after you for spamming ;-)
Oh do shut up. Just mentioning a company isn't spamming, only promoting a
company you work for is.
<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:j6ar63hgnlatcvkqk6ftnelupd40ohoa2i@4ax.com
> On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 19:09:13 +0100, Desk Rabbit
> <nospam@example.com> wrote:
>
> > bob garbutt wrote:
> > > {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> > > > bob garbutt wrote:
> >
> > > thanks for your help, I'll print this out have a look
> > > at my settings, I want to be able to use
> > > voipcheap.co.uk to receive call because I have a geo
> > > number from them for that account and use
> > > vopcheap.com to make outgoing calls, because they
> > > offer more free call, what would be the best way to
> > > set that up, want to use my dect phone thats
> > > connected to vonage at the moment
> >
> > Careful Bob. You mentioned three different companies in
> > that message. Ivor will be after you for spamming ;-)
> Time Ivor went and played with his fuddyduddy radio ham
> chums and greasy oily biker chums and left this forum to
> people who are not complaining about spammers every other
> day .
Tell me Ron, do you write your own posts or does your mummy write them for
you..?
"Brian" <bandj@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
news:slrnf6rnum.2tq.bandj@mymachine.invalid
[snip]
> I've never used one of these either but setting the two
> lines up does
> not appear too dissimilar to a PAP2. There is a guide at
>
> http://www.jmgtechnology.com.au/spa_1001_guide.pdf
>
> which looks very useful.
>
> Brian.
I've never used a PAP2 but from what I can tell they're almost identical
in setup to a Sipura SPA-2000.
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Brian" <bandj@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:slrnf6rnum.2tq.bandj@mymachine.invalid
>
> [snip]
>
>> I've never used one of these either but setting the two
>> lines up does
>> not appear too dissimilar to a PAP2. There is a guide at
>>
>> http://www.jmgtechnology.com.au/spa_1001_guide.pdf
>>
>> which looks very useful.
>>
>> Brian.
>
> I've never used a PAP2 but from what I can tell they're almost identical
> in setup to a Sipura SPA-2000.
>
> Ivor
>
>
thanks everyone for your help, I'll have a go at setting it up and get
back to you if I have any problems, I'm not used to having to configure
anything, been using plug and go devices up till now, but I'm sure this
will be much better in the long term,
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
> news:SfCdnWMORfvAEvDbnZ2dnUVZ8tfinZ2d@pipex.net
>> bob garbutt wrote:
>>> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>>>> bob garbutt wrote:
>>> thanks for your help, I'll print this out have a look
>>> at my settings, I want to be able to use
>>> voipcheap.co.uk to receive call because I have a geo
>>> number from them for that account and use vopcheap.com
>>> to make outgoing calls, because they offer more free
>>> call, what would be the best way to set that up, want
>>> to use my dect phone thats connected to vonage at the
>>> moment
>> Careful Bob. You mentioned three different companies in
>> that message. Ivor will be after you for spamming ;-)
>
> Oh do shut up. Just mentioning a company isn't spamming, only promoting a
> company you work for is.
>
> Ivor
>
>
At last you agree that "What do you want from a VOIP provider" was not spam.
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Brian" <bandj@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:slrnf6rnum.2tq.bandj@mymachine.invalid
>
> [snip]
>
>> I've never used one of these either but setting the two
>> lines up does
>> not appear too dissimilar to a PAP2. There is a guide at
>>
>> http://www.jmgtechnology.com.au/spa_1001_guide.pdf
>>
>> which looks very useful.
>>
>> Brian.
>
> I've never used a PAP2 but from what I can tell they're almost identical
> in setup to a Sipura SPA-2000.
>
> Ivor
>
>
Think I might have either a dial plan or timing problem! If I dial via
the dect phone and it dials from a stored number it does not always seem
to connect, I can here the phone ringing the other number and they don't
seem to pick up and yet they say they have picked up the line and can
here a rustling type noise, but if I dial or receive a call from a
mobile that seems to be ok, only ordinary numbers seem to have a problem?
"Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
news:YZWdnZJxlsUi-_PbRVnyuwA@pipex.net
> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
> > news:SfCdnWMORfvAEvDbnZ2dnUVZ8tfinZ2d@pipex.net
> > > bob garbutt wrote:
> > > > {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> > > > > bob garbutt wrote:
> > > > thanks for your help, I'll print this out have a
> > > > look at my settings, I want to be able to use
> > > > voipcheap.co.uk to receive call because I have a geo
> > > > number from them for that account and use
> > > > vopcheap.com to make outgoing calls, because they
> > > > offer more free call, what would be the best way to
> > > > set that up, want to use my dect phone thats
> > > > connected to vonage at the moment
> > > Careful Bob. You mentioned three different companies
> > > in that message. Ivor will be after you for spamming
> > > ;-)
> >
> > Oh do shut up. Just mentioning a company isn't
> > spamming, only promoting a company you work for is.
> >
> > Ivor
> >
> >
> At last you agree that "What do you want from a VOIP
> provider" was not spam.
I do not. Please don't hijack this thread as well.
"alexd" <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1470430.kTdRIsWtPa@ale.cx
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>
> > Tell me Ron, do you write your own posts or does your
> > mummy write them for you..?
>
> What exactly do you think that stooping to his level is
> going to achieve?
Not a lot, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let him have the last word.
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
> news:YZWdnZJxlsUi-_PbRVnyuwA@pipex.net
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>> "Desk Rabbit" <nospam@example.com> wrote in message
>>> news:SfCdnWMORfvAEvDbnZ2dnUVZ8tfinZ2d@pipex.net
>>>> bob garbutt wrote:
>>>>> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>>>>>> bob garbutt wrote:
>>>>> thanks for your help, I'll print this out have a
>>>>> look at my settings, I want to be able to use
>>>>> voipcheap.co.uk to receive call because I have a geo
>>>>> number from them for that account and use
>>>>> vopcheap.com to make outgoing calls, because they
>>>>> offer more free call, what would be the best way to
>>>>> set that up, want to use my dect phone thats
>>>>> connected to vonage at the moment
>>>> Careful Bob. You mentioned three different companies
>>>> in that message. Ivor will be after you for spamming
>>>> ;-)
>>> Oh do shut up. Just mentioning a company isn't
>>> spamming, only promoting a company you work for is.
>>>
>>> Ivor
>>>
>>>
>> At last you agree that "What do you want from a VOIP
>> provider" was not spam.
>
> I do not. Please don't hijack this thread as well.
Are you sure its a thread? You don't want to call it something else like
a custard tart or a wombat?