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Old 08-07-2006, 11:50 AM
elziko
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Default Sipura SPA-2000

Anyone know where the cheapest place to buy the Sipura SPA-2000 is?
Preferably online.

TIA



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Old 08-07-2006, 12:46 PM
Ivor Jones
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"elziko" <elziko@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Anyone know where the cheapest place to buy the Sipura
> SPA-2000 is? Preferably online.
>
> TIA


eBay probably. The SPA-2000 was discontinued some time ago. The SPA-2002
is its replacement.

Ivor



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Old 08-07-2006, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: Sipura SPA-2000

Ivor Jones wrote:
> eBay probably. The SPA-2000 was discontinued some time ago. The
> SPA-2002 is its replacement.


I thought the SPA-2000 was current... what is the difference between the two
and do you know of a shop online where I can get the SPA-2002 for a good
price?

Or are there better/cheaper products of a similar nature?

TIA



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Old 08-07-2006, 02:34 PM
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On 2006-08-07, elziko <elziko@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:


>> eBay probably. The SPA-2000 was discontinued some time ago. The
>> SPA-2002 is its replacement.

>
> I thought the SPA-2000 was current... what is the difference between
> the two and do you know of a shop online where I can get the SPA-2002
> for a good price?


The SPA-2002 has a different style of case, twice the memory and is
designed to allow the sending of fax over IP. You'd likely be happy with
either model.

www.voiptalk.org do the the SPA-2002 for a decent price but how about
trying your favourite search engine to get a comparison?

> Or are there better/cheaper products of a similar nature?


The 2000s and 2002s may be badged Sipura or Linksys. Also look for the
PAP2. The price differences can be significant but you are basically
getting the same functionality.

Brian.

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Old 08-07-2006, 05:51 PM
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U¿ytkownik "elziko" <elziko@yahoo.co.uk> napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
news:44d73f1f$0$4079$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>> eBay probably. The SPA-2000 was discontinued some time ago. The
>> SPA-2002 is its replacement.

>
> I thought the SPA-2000 was current... what is the difference between the
> two and do you know of a shop online where I can get the SPA-2002 for a
> good price?
>
> Or are there better/cheaper products of a similar nature?



You should be very happy with Fritz! ATA (10 sip accounts).
Check up on avm.de but buy on ebay.de.



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Old 08-07-2006, 06:29 PM
Brian A
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 18:51:19 +0100, "KaShMiRi"
<xxx_xxx_kaacper_xxx@xxxtlenxxx.pl> wrote:

>
>U¿ytkownik "elziko" <elziko@yahoo.co.uk> napisa³ w wiadomo¶ci
>news:44d73f1f$0$4079$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com. ..
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>> eBay probably. The SPA-2000 was discontinued some time ago. The
>>> SPA-2002 is its replacement.

>>
>> I thought the SPA-2000 was current... what is the difference between the
>> two and do you know of a shop online where I can get the SPA-2002 for a
>> good price?
>>
>> Or are there better/cheaper products of a similar nature?

>
>
>You should be very happy with Fritz! ATA (10 sip accounts).
>Check up on avm.de but buy on ebay.de.
>

Do you particularly want the linksys/sipura SPA-2000?
There are other similar models...SPA-2002, linksys PAP2 etc. Or the 2
numbers ot one handset SPA-1001 (good price on
www.broadbandstuff.co.uk - about the same price as in the US and that
is unusual - usually UK prices are about the same in £ as they are in
US$.)
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Old 08-07-2006, 06:51 PM
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Uzytkownik "Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> napisal

> Do you particularly want the linksys/sipura SPA-2000?
> There are other similar models...SPA-2002, linksys PAP2 etc. Or the 2
> numbers ot one handset SPA-1001 (good price on
> www.broadbandstuff.co.uk - about the same price as in the US and that
> is unusual - usually UK prices are about the same in £ as they are in
> US$.)



Still, they are almost twice as expensive as on ebay.com - even including
shipping from US.

Grandstream ATA 486:
E-bay: 62$ including postage to UK
(http://cgi.ebay.com/Grandstream-ATA-...QQcmdZViewItem)
Broadbandstuff: £53
(http://www.broadbandstuff.co.uk/prod...62d005a9dcd348)



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Old 08-07-2006, 07:03 PM
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Sipura new SPA-2000: 57$ including shipping to UK.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sipura-SPA-2000-...QQcmdZViewItem



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Old 08-07-2006, 07:21 PM
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on 07/08/2006, Brian A supposed :

> SPA-1001 (good price on
> www.broadbandstuff.co.uk - about the same price as in the US and that
> is unusual - usually UK prices are about the same in £ as they are in
> US$.)


It is a good price at ££32.90
<http://www.broadbandstuff.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=157_165&products_id=740&osC sid=34f10b9de9135db56958d6b2c4100de6>

Do you think it's locked?
"Installed by the end user and remotely provisioned, configured and
maintained by the service provider"



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Old 08-07-2006, 08:46 PM
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Uzytkownik "Jono" <nothanks@notonyournelly.blueyonder.com.co.uk> napisal

> Do you think it's locked?
> "Installed by the end user and remotely provisioned, configured and
> maintained by the service provider"



It's locked it seems.
Can be unlocked: look through
http://voxilla.com/index.php?name=PN...viewforum&f=14



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Old 08-07-2006, 10:37 PM
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On 2006-08-07, KaShMiRi <xxx_xxx_kaacper_xxx@xxxtlenxxx.pl> wrote:

> Uzytkownik "Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> napisal
>
>> Do you particularly want the linksys/sipura SPA-2000?
>> There are other similar models...SPA-2002, linksys PAP2 etc. Or the 2
>> numbers ot one handset SPA-1001 (good price on
>> www.broadbandstuff.co.uk - about the same price as in the US and that
>> is unusual - usually UK prices are about the same in £ as they are in
>> US$.)

>
>
> Still, they are almost twice as expensive as on ebay.com - even including
> shipping from US.


To what extent are Import Duty and VAT liable to erode this differnce?

Brian.

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Old 08-07-2006, 10:39 PM
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On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:46:10 +0100, "KaShMiRi"
<xxx_xxx_kaacper_xxx@xxxtlenxxx.pl> wrote:

>
>Uzytkownik "Jono" <nothanks@notonyournelly.blueyonder.com.co.uk> napisal
>
>> Do you think it's locked?
>> "Installed by the end user and remotely provisioned, configured and
>> maintained by the service provider"

Could be just some standard blurb that they have copied into the
description. Before I bought one I'd check to see if it was locked. I
doubt it somehow, they would surely say to which operator it was
locked . They emphasise that the PAP2 is unlocked because they are so
often locked to Vonage. If the 1001 is locked then it can be obtained
for the same price, unlocked, from the US.

Personally I don't have much faith in ebay - just too many criminals
to deal with.
>
>
>It's locked it seems.
>Can be unlocked: look through
>http://voxilla.com/index.php?name=PN...viewforum&f=14
>


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Old 08-08-2006, 12:37 AM
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"Jono" <nothanks@notonyournelly.blueyonder.com.co.uk> wrote
in message
news:mn.3cc57d68fbcdd0fd.48968@notonyournelly.blue yonder.com.co.uk
> on 07/08/2006, Brian A supposed :
>
> > SPA-1001 (good price on
> > www.broadbandstuff.co.uk - about the same price as in
> > the US and that is unusual - usually UK prices are
> > about the same in £ as they are in US$.)

>
> It is a good price at ££32.90
> <http://www.broadbandstuff.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=157_165&products_id=740&osC sid=34f10b9de9135db56958d6b2c4100de6>
>
> Do you think it's locked?
> "Installed by the end user and remotely provisioned,
> configured and maintained by the service provider"


It says "can be" remotely provisioned. There's a difference. Flash it with
the latest firmware on the Sipura website and you'll be ok anyway.

Ivor



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Old 08-08-2006, 07:21 AM
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"Brian" <bandj@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 2006-08-07, KaShMiRi <xxx_xxx_kaacper_xxx@xxxtlenxxx.pl> wrote:
>
>> Uzytkownik "Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> napisal
>>
>>> Do you particularly want the linksys/sipura SPA-2000?
>>> There are other similar models...SPA-2002, linksys PAP2 etc. Or the
>>> 2
>>> numbers ot one handset SPA-1001 (good price on
>>> www.broadbandstuff.co.uk - about the same price as in the US and
>>> that
>>> is unusual - usually UK prices are about the same in £ as they are
>>> in
>>> US$.)

>>
>>
>> Still, they are almost twice as expensive as on ebay.com - even
>> including
>> shipping from US.

>
> To what extent are Import Duty and VAT liable to erode this differnce?
>


You might also have to take into account the couriers extra charge for
dealing with customs formalities.



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Old 08-08-2006, 09:21 AM
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On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 07:21:15 GMT, "Harry Stottle"
<sorryspamdoesntwork@nospam.uk.co> wrote:

>
>"Brian" <bandj@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:eb8fb7$sch$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
>> On 2006-08-07, KaShMiRi <xxx_xxx_kaacper_xxx@xxxtlenxxx.pl> wrote:
>>
>>> Uzytkownik "Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> napisal
>>>
>>>> Do you particularly want the linksys/sipura SPA-2000?
>>>> There are other similar models...SPA-2002, linksys PAP2 etc. Or the
>>>> 2
>>>> numbers ot one handset SPA-1001 (good price on
>>>> www.broadbandstuff.co.uk - about the same price as in the US and
>>>> that
>>>> is unusual - usually UK prices are about the same in £ as they are
>>>> in
>>>> US$.)
>>>
>>>
>>> Still, they are almost twice as expensive as on ebay.com - even
>>> including
>>> shipping from US.

>>
>> To what extent are Import Duty and VAT liable to erode this differnce?
>>

>
>You might also have to take into account the couriers extra charge for
>dealing with customs formalities.
>

I was in communication with someone else from the UK who ordered an
SPA-1001 from a US supplier. He got it for about £39 inc post. He said
he didn't get charged any duty. That seemed stange but it is what I
was told.
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Old 08-08-2006, 10:14 AM
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On 2006-08-08, Brian A <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 07:21:15 GMT, "Harry Stottle"
><sorryspamdoesntwork@nospam.uk.co> wrote:
>
>>You might also have to take into account the couriers extra charge for
>>dealing with customs formalities.
>>

> I was in communication with someone else from the UK who ordered an
> SPA-1001 from a US supplier. He got it for about £39 inc post. He said
> he didn't get charged any duty. That seemed stange but it is what I
> was told.


If everyone could make an arrangement with Customs and Excise to get
similar treatment, buying goods from the States, or anywhere else
outside the EU, could result in saving money. But that's not going to
happen.

So a simple price comparison between two ATAs obtainable in both the UK
and the USA is incomplete.

Brian.

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Old 08-08-2006, 03:02 PM
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Thus spaketh Brian A:
> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 07:21:15 GMT, "Harry Stottle"
> <sorryspamdoesntwork@nospam.uk.co> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Brian" <bandj@o2.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:eb8fb7$sch$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
>>> On 2006-08-07, KaShMiRi <xxx_xxx_kaacper_xxx@xxxtlenxxx.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Uzytkownik "Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> napisal
>>>>
>>>>> Do you particularly want the linksys/sipura SPA-2000?
>>>>> There are other similar models...SPA-2002, linksys PAP2 etc. Or
>>>>> the 2
>>>>> numbers ot one handset SPA-1001 (good price on
>>>>> www.broadbandstuff.co.uk - about the same price as in the US and
>>>>> that
>>>>> is unusual - usually UK prices are about the same in £ as they are
>>>>> in
>>>>> US$.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Still, they are almost twice as expensive as on ebay.com - even
>>>> including
>>>> shipping from US.
>>>
>>> To what extent are Import Duty and VAT liable to erode this
>>> differnce?
>>>

>>
>> You might also have to take into account the couriers extra charge
>> for dealing with customs formalities.
>>

> I was in communication with someone else from the UK who ordered an
> SPA-1001 from a US supplier. He got it for about £39 inc post. He said
> he didn't get charged any duty. That seemed stange but it is what I
> was told.
> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.



Sometimes you get lucky and customs don't pull items over, I've had a
few things turn up that should have attracted duty and VAT but escaped.


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