"John" <e7y8a3c4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:3bp7n5dpm6dqiriaoq473r317g8b96g1un@4ax.com...
>
> I've been following the excellent tutorial provided by Graham to set
> up a Skype to SIP Gateway, for use with a Skypephone S2.
>
> http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/
>
> However, it seems that Orbtalk no longer provide free UK numbers to
> individual users. Are there any alternatives, and if so, how do I
> set them up?
In article <hl0qpt$jlk$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
Mr Benn <nospam@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>"John" <e7y8a3c4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>news:3bp7n5dpm6dqiriaoq473r317g8b96g1un@4ax.com.. .
>>
>> I've been following the excellent tutorial provided by Graham to set
>> up a Skype to SIP Gateway, for use with a Skypephone S2.
>>
>> http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/
>>
>> However, it seems that Orbtalk no longer provide free UK numbers to
>> individual users. Are there any alternatives, and if so, how do I
>> set them up?
>
>Have you considered the SIP for Skype service?
>
>http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/busi...x-systems/sip/
It never ceases to amaze me the effort people will make just to get a
free phone call or 2! The gatway mentioned above really does take some
effort to put together, not to mention requiring a PC running all the
time, and the management of 2 different VoIP accounts!
The SIP to Skype services are all commercial - It's highly unlikely
people looking for a free gateway will pay £5.11 per month (inv VAT)
for such a service.
"Gordon Henderson" <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote in message news:hl0ttu$1mod$1@energise.enta.net...
> In article <hl0qpt$jlk$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Mr Benn <nospam@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>"John" <e7y8a3c4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>news:3bp7n5dpm6dqiriaoq473r317g8b96g1un@4ax.com. ..
>>>
>>> I've been following the excellent tutorial provided by Graham to set
>>> up a Skype to SIP Gateway, for use with a Skypephone S2.
>>>
>>> http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/
>>>
>>> However, it seems that Orbtalk no longer provide free UK numbers to
>>> individual users. Are there any alternatives, and if so, how do I
>>> set them up?
>>
>>Have you considered the SIP for Skype service?
>>
>>http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/busi...x-systems/sip/
>
> It never ceases to amaze me the effort people will make just to get a
> free phone call or 2! The gatway mentioned above really does take some
> effort to put together, not to mention requiring a PC running all the
> time, and the management of 2 different VoIP accounts!
It's true my father was a canny Scott, consequently I am predisposed to watch the pennies,
but it seems to me that the ability to make calls at Betamax rates from a PAYG mobile
with no credit is worth leaving your home PC on for, especially if it was going to
run 24/7 for other reasons.
"Graham." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:hl1hre$m53$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> "Gordon Henderson" <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote in message
> news:hl0ttu$1mod$1@energise.enta.net...
>> In article <hl0qpt$jlk$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Mr Benn <nospam@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>"John" <e7y8a3c4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>news:3bp7n5dpm6dqiriaoq473r317g8b96g1un@4ax.com ...
>>>>
>>>> I've been following the excellent tutorial provided by Graham to set
>>>> up a Skype to SIP Gateway, for use with a Skypephone S2.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/
>>>>
>>>> However, it seems that Orbtalk no longer provide free UK numbers to
>>>> individual users. Are there any alternatives, and if so, how do I
>>>> set them up?
>>>
>>>Have you considered the SIP for Skype service?
>>>http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/busi...x-systems/sip/
>>
>> It never ceases to amaze me the effort people will make just to get a
>> free phone call or 2! The gatway mentioned above really does take some
>> effort to put together, not to mention requiring a PC running all the
>> time, and the management of 2 different VoIP accounts!
>
> It's true my father was a canny Scott, consequently I am predisposed to
> watch the pennies,
> but it seems to me that the ability to make calls at Betamax rates from a
> PAYG mobile
> with no credit is worth leaving your home PC on for, especially if it was
> going to
> run 24/7 for other reasons.
> Graham.
>
>
Can't argue with that, but as John said, got an alternative to Orbtalk
for a cheap or free phone number?
"Steve Terry" <gfourwwk@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:hl1pat$sr5$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
> Can't argue with that, but as John said, got an alternative to Orbtalk
> for a cheap or free phone number?
>
> Anyone?
>
> Steve Terry
>
"John" <e7y8a3c4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:3bp7n5dpm6dqiriaoq473r317g8b96g1un@4ax.com...
>
> I've been following the excellent tutorial provided by Graham to set
> up a Skype to SIP Gateway, for use with a Skypephone S2.
>
> http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/
>
> However, it seems that Orbtalk no longer provide free UK numbers to
> individual users. Are there any alternatives, and if so, how do I
> set them up?
>
> John
Mmm, ISWYM.
This is bad news I just tried calling a Sipgate and a Tesco account by SIP URI
and confirmed that it doesn't work.
__But_ just_a_ minute__
the solution has been here all along an I failed to see it
The Betamax trunk we are using for outgoing calls... no reason at all why
we shouldn't use it for the incoming leg as well, and I know you can call it
by URI.
In short, I have overcomplicated the project unnecessarily.
So, get rid of the Orbtalk trunk and its corresponding inbound route in pbxes,
and simply create a new inbound route with the same name as the Betamax trunk,
and send it to "callthrough PIN"
The entry in SkypeToSisAuth.props will now look something like this:
*,sip:smartvoipaccountname@sip.smartvoip.com:5060
or replace the * with the Skype name if you want to limit it to known users, (which you will).
I will update http://skypegateway.webs.com when I get time.
On 11 Feb, 20:58, "Graham." <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> Mmm, ISWYM.
> This is bad news I just tried calling a Sipgate and a Tesco account by SIP URI
> and confirmed that it doesn't work.
> __But_ just_a_ minute__
> the solution has been here all along an I failed to see it
> The Betamax trunk we are using for outgoing calls... no reason at all why
> we shouldn't use it for the incoming leg as well, and I know you can call it
> by URI.
> In short, I have overcomplicated the project unnecessarily.
> So, get rid of the Orbtalk trunk and its corresponding inbound route in pbxes,
> and simply create a new inbound route with the same name as the Betamax trunk,
> and send it to "callthrough PIN"
Try it, but like Sipgate, Betamax brands do not accept incoming calls
to the SIP URI from all or even that many providers
It would be good to get this going without a PC running. I think it's
possible.
"andy" <andy.ggrps@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:f8f4b34f-6964-4278-9a7e-3aa700bd476c@f34g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On 11 Feb, 20:58, "Graham." <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Mmm, ISWYM.
>> This is bad news I just tried calling a Sipgate and a Tesco account by
>> SIP URI
>> and confirmed that it doesn't work.
>> __But_ just_a_ minute__
>> the solution has been here all along an I failed to see it
>> The Betamax trunk we are using for outgoing calls... no reason at all why
>> we shouldn't use it for the incoming leg as well, and I know you can call
>> it
>> by URI.
>> In short, I have overcomplicated the project unnecessarily.
>> So, get rid of the Orbtalk trunk and its corresponding inbound route in
>> pbxes,
>> and simply create a new inbound route with the same name as the Betamax
>> trunk,
>> and send it to "callthrough PIN"
>
> Try it, but like Sipgate, Betamax brands do not accept incoming calls
> to the SIP URI from all or even that many providers
>
I suspected that might be the case
>
> It would be good to get this going without a PC running. I think it's
> possible.
>
>
An indirect provider could supply a call-back service to a Skype call,
like rebtel http://blog.rebtel.com/2009/12/03/re...omputer-calls/
The problem is finding one that will do it cheaply
"andy" <andy.ggrps@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:f8f4b34f-6964-4278-9a7e-3aa700bd476c@f34g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On 11 Feb, 20:58, "Graham." <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Mmm, ISWYM.
>> This is bad news I just tried calling a Sipgate and a Tesco account by SIP URI
>> and confirmed that it doesn't work.
>> __But_ just_a_ minute__
>> the solution has been here all along an I failed to see it
>> The Betamax trunk we are using for outgoing calls... no reason at all why
>> we shouldn't use it for the incoming leg as well, and I know you can call it
>> by URI.
>> In short, I have overcomplicated the project unnecessarily.
>> So, get rid of the Orbtalk trunk and its corresponding inbound route in pbxes,
>> and simply create a new inbound route with the same name as the Betamax trunk,
>> and send it to "callthrough PIN"
>
> Try it, but like Sipgate, Betamax brands do not accept incoming calls
> to the SIP URI from all or even that many providers
The call is not coming from a provider, its origanated in the SIP client running on the PC
>
> It would be good to get this going without a PC running. I think it's
> possible.
It's certainly possible, you've just got to ask what's in it for those hosting such
a system in a data-centre.
"Graham." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:hl271q$t94$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> "andy" <andy.ggrps@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:f8f4b34f-6964-4278-9a7e-3aa700bd476c@f34g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>> On 11 Feb, 20:58, "Graham." <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>> Mmm, ISWYM.
>>> This is bad news I just tried calling a Sipgate and a Tesco account by
>>> SIP URI
>>> and confirmed that it doesn't work.
>>> __But_ just_a_ minute__
>>> the solution has been here all along an I failed to see it
>>> The Betamax trunk we are using for outgoing calls... no reason at all
>>> why
>>> we shouldn't use it for the incoming leg as well, and I know you can
>>> call it
>>> by URI.
>>> In short, I have overcomplicated the project unnecessarily.
>>> So, get rid of the Orbtalk trunk and its corresponding inbound route in
>>> pbxes,
>>> and simply create a new inbound route with the same name as the Betamax
>>> trunk,
>>> and send it to "callthrough PIN"
>>
>> Try it, but like Sipgate, Betamax brands do not accept incoming calls
>> to the SIP URI from all or even that many providers
>
> The call is not coming from a provider, its origanated in the SIP client
> running on the PC
>>
>> It would be good to get this going without a PC running. I think it's
>> possible.
>
> It's certainly possible, you've just got to ask what's in it for those
> hosting such
> a system in a data-centre.
> Graham.
>
>
If i had some dosh i'd set up an indirect provider Co (like 1899.com)
but based in Scotland with a Three access number.
(3Pay users get 5000 inc mins)
Then in 6 months when the final demands come in from Three for
connection charges, and whichever Telco provided the switch.
Declare bankruptcy and take the first plane out to Rio with the
suitcase of money made from my subscribers. :-))
No i wouldn't to do such a thing, planned bankruptcy is fraud
and so illegal
In article <hl1hre$m53$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
Graham. <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>
>"Gordon Henderson" <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote in message
>news:hl0ttu$1mod$1@energise.enta.net...
>> In article <hl0qpt$jlk$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Mr Benn <nospam@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>"John" <e7y8a3c4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>news:3bp7n5dpm6dqiriaoq473r317g8b96g1un@4ax.com ...
>>>>
>>>> I've been following the excellent tutorial provided by Graham to set
>>>> up a Skype to SIP Gateway, for use with a Skypephone S2.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/
>>>>
>>>> However, it seems that Orbtalk no longer provide free UK numbers to
>>>> individual users. Are there any alternatives, and if so, how do I
>>>> set them up?
>>>
>>>Have you considered the SIP for Skype service?
>>>
>>>http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/busi...x-systems/sip/
>>
>> It never ceases to amaze me the effort people will make just to get a
>> free phone call or 2! The gatway mentioned above really does take some
>> effort to put together, not to mention requiring a PC running all the
>> time, and the management of 2 different VoIP accounts!
>
>It's true my father was a canny Scott, consequently I am predisposed to
>watch the pennies,
Well I actually am a Scott, although having lived in the SW of Engurland
for the past 20 years or so, that may have tempered me "Scottishness"
somewhat!!
>but it seems to me that the ability to make calls at Betamax rates from
>a PAYG mobile
>with no credit is worth leaving your home PC on for, especially if it
>was going to
>run 24/7 for other reasons.
So the challenge is to make a call from a mobile with no credit, but
one with a Skype client built in that will allow you to make Skype
calls with no credit...
Er, OK - good luck! If it works for you and all that...
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:58:17 -0000, "Graham." <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>Mmm, ISWYM.
>This is bad news I just tried calling a Sipgate and a Tesco account by SIP URI
>and confirmed that it doesn't work.
>__But_ just_a_ minute__
>the solution has been here all along an I failed to see it
>The Betamax trunk we are using for outgoing calls... no reason at all why
>we shouldn't use it for the incoming leg as well, and I know you can call it
>by URI.
>In short, I have overcomplicated the project unnecessarily.
>So, get rid of the Orbtalk trunk and its corresponding inbound route in pbxes,
>and simply create a new inbound route with the same name as the Betamax trunk,
>and send it to "callthrough PIN"
>
>The entry in SkypeToSisAuth.props will now look something like this:
>*,sip:smartvoipaccountname@sip.smartvoip.com:50 60
>
>or replace the * with the Skype name if you want to limit it to known users, (which you will).
>I will update http://skypegateway.webs.com when I get time.
Thanks Graham - I think I understand enough now to be able to set-up
sometime over the weekend.
"Graham." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:hl1r1e$dmu$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
> "John" <e7y8a3c4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:3bp7n5dpm6dqiriaoq473r317g8b96g1un@4ax.com...
>>
>> I've been following the excellent tutorial provided by Graham to set
>> up a Skype to SIP Gateway, for use with a Skypephone S2.
>>
>> http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/
>>
>> However, it seems that Orbtalk no longer provide free UK numbers to
>> individual users. Are there any alternatives, and if so, how do I
>> set them up?
>>
>> John
>
> Mmm, ISWYM.
> This is bad news I just tried calling a Sipgate and a Tesco account by SIP
> URI
> and confirmed that it doesn't work.
> __But_ just_a_ minute__
> the solution has been here all along an I failed to see it
> The Betamax trunk we are using for outgoing calls... no reason at all why
> we shouldn't use it for the incoming leg as well, and I know you can call
> it
> by URI.
> In short, I have overcomplicated the project unnecessarily.
> So, get rid of the Orbtalk trunk and its corresponding inbound route in
> pbxes,
> and simply create a new inbound route with the same name as the Betamax
> trunk,
> and send it to "callthrough PIN"
>
> The entry in SkypeToSisAuth.props will now look something like this:
> *,sip:smartvoipaccountname@sip.smartvoip.com:5060
>
> or replace the * with the Skype name if you want to limit it to known
> users, (which you will).
> I will update http://skypegateway.webs.com when I get time.
>
> --
> Graham.
>
> %Profound_observation%
>
When sipgate first closed down their sip network to outside sip calls you
still used to be able to connect by dialling 0044xxxxyyyyyy@sipgate.net
instead of 0xxxxyyyyyy@sipgate.co.uk- might be worth trying if this still
works
"Gordon Henderson" <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote in message news:hl2sof$1rr1$1@energise.enta.net...
> In article <hl1hre$m53$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Graham. <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>"Gordon Henderson" <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote in message
>>news:hl0ttu$1mod$1@energise.enta.net...
>>> In article <hl0qpt$jlk$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> Mr Benn <nospam@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>"John" <e7y8a3c4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:3bp7n5dpm6dqiriaoq473r317g8b96g1un@4ax.co m...
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been following the excellent tutorial provided by Graham to set
>>>>> up a Skype to SIP Gateway, for use with a Skypephone S2.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.skypegateway.webs.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> However, it seems that Orbtalk no longer provide free UK numbers to
>>>>> individual users. Are there any alternatives, and if so, how do I
>>>>> set them up?
>>>>
>>>>Have you considered the SIP for Skype service?
>>>>
>>>>http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/busi...x-systems/sip/
>>>
>>> It never ceases to amaze me the effort people will make just to get a
>>> free phone call or 2! The gatway mentioned above really does take some
>>> effort to put together, not to mention requiring a PC running all the
>>> time, and the management of 2 different VoIP accounts!
>>
>>It's true my father was a canny Scott, consequently I am predisposed to
>>watch the pennies,
>
> Well I actually am a Scott, although having lived in the SW of Engurland
> for the past 20 years or so, that may have tempered me "Scottishness"
> somewhat!!
You'll have had your tea?
>>but it seems to me that the ability to make calls at Betamax rates from
>>a PAYG mobile
>>with no credit is worth leaving your home PC on for, especially if it
>>was going to
>>run 24/7 for other reasons.
>
> So the challenge is to make a call from a mobile with no credit, but
> one with a Skype client built in that will allow you to make Skype
> calls with no credit...
> Er, OK - good luck! If it works for you and all that...
Son #1 commenced academic sojourn at the end of September, armed with a 3 Skypephone
S2, and has made all his calls via the Skype to SIP gateway running on a PC here.
"John" <e7y8a3c4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:igtan5lccfftenj2pro6782n1s882blfq2@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:58:17 -0000, "Graham." <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>>Mmm, ISWYM.
>>This is bad news I just tried calling a Sipgate and a Tesco account by SIP URI
>>and confirmed that it doesn't work.
>>__But_ just_a_ minute__
>>the solution has been here all along an I failed to see it
>>The Betamax trunk we are using for outgoing calls... no reason at all why
>>we shouldn't use it for the incoming leg as well, and I know you can call it
>>by URI.
>>In short, I have overcomplicated the project unnecessarily.
>>So, get rid of the Orbtalk trunk and its corresponding inbound route in pbxes,
>>and simply create a new inbound route with the same name as the Betamax trunk,
>>and send it to "callthrough PIN"
>>
>>The entry in SkypeToSisAuth.props will now look something like this:
>>*,sip:smartvoipaccountname@sip.smartvoip.com:506 0
>>
>>or replace the * with the Skype name if you want to limit it to known users, (which you will).
>>I will update http://skypegateway.webs.com when I get time.
>
> Thanks Graham - I think I understand enough now to be able to set-up
> sometime over the weekend.
>
> John
Well it's about time someone in this grouptried it ;-)
Let me know how you get on, especially if you find a better/different way to do it.
The idea of using the Betamax account for the incoming leg did work for a while,
but does nor seem to be reliable, I think it is losing its registration or something..
I seem to have found a good substitute for Orbtalk though, try localphone.com
You need to register an account, log into it, then click on the VOIP button at
the top of the page, then "upgrade to VOIP" on the next page, you will then see your
SIP id (7 digit number) and password (8 alpha-numeric characters) and the URI is in
the form of SIP_ID@localphone.com
Localphone do not seem to do free UK PSTN number so the SIP ID you
get doesn't relate to anything you can dial from the PSTN which is security advantage here.
On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:15:13 -0000, "Graham." <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>> Thanks Graham - I think I understand enough now to be able to set-up
>> sometime over the weekend.
>>
>> John
>
>Well it's about time someone in this grouptried it ;-)
>Let me know how you get on, especially if you find a better/different way to do it.
I've managed to set up a working system (outgoing calls), but only by
following your directions! Thanks again for the help.
Obviously I don't get the Smartvoip freedays due to the shared IP
address, but that is only a minor drawback.
"John" <e7y8a3c4@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:u8ftn59fi1skcgp6osa2rrjei5nhnhhtgq@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 13 Feb 2010 17:15:13 -0000, "Graham." <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>>> Thanks Graham - I think I understand enough now to be able to set-up
>>> sometime over the weekend.
>>>
>>> John
>>
>>Well it's about time someone in this grouptried it ;-)
>>Let me know how you get on, especially if you find a better/different way to do it.
>
> I've managed to set up a working system (outgoing calls), but only by
> following your directions! Thanks again for the help.
>
> Obviously I don't get the Smartvoip freedays due to the shared IP
> address, but that is only a minor drawback.
Yes all of us with Betamax accounts on pbxes are competing for the same
300 min :-)
Of course in "personal data" you can change your country, which also changes the data-centre
where your account is hosted...
....Maybe Tokyo has less competition... Maybe more latency... Maybe I should keep quiet.
Actually have been on Paris for the recent past, and most of my UK landline calls still are free surprisingly.
Here is an enhansment that will give you single digit speed-dials 1-9 (zero will probebly work as well)
Paste this into the "custom dial patterns" of the outbound route that points to the smartvoip trunk
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
00.
01.
02.
03.
07.
Then paste this into dial rules of the smartvoip trunk. Replace the 1234567890 with your favourite 9 numbers
00441234567890+1|
00441234567890+2|
00441234567890+3|
00441234567890+4|
00441234567890+5|
00441234567890+6|
00441234567890+7|
00441234567890+8|
00441234567890+9|
0044+0|1.
0044+0|2.
0044+0|3.
0044+0|7.
Notice that 08 numbers are not catered for here yet, I have a Sipgate trunk that handles 0800 0808 & 0500
but as yet I have made no provision for 0870 0845 etc.
"Graham." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:hlmrva$t0d$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>>Well it's about time someone in this grouptried it ;-)
>>>Let me know how you get on, especially if you find a better/different way
>>>to do it.
>>
>> I've managed to set up a working system (outgoing calls), but only by
>> following your directions! Thanks again for the help.
>>
>> Obviously I don't get the Smartvoip freedays due to the shared IP
>> address, but that is only a minor drawback.
>
> Yes all of us with Betamax accounts on pbxes are competing for the same
> 300 min :-)
> Of course in "personal data" you can change your country, which also
> changes the data-centre
> where your account is hosted...
> ...Maybe Tokyo has less competition... Maybe more latency... Maybe I
> should keep quiet.
> Actually have been on Paris for the recent past, and most of my UK
> landline calls still are free surprisingly.
Hi Graham
I've actually set this up using your instructions (as I pointed out in
another thread). As reported, I had it working up until New Years eve, but
when I tried it a few days after it no longer works. The System Restore
trick didn't work for me, maybe because by the time I got round to doing it
the earliest available restore point was later than when the problem
appeared, and I've not had much time to have a proper fiddle with it.
Have you ever investigated using the 3CX system?
When I looked at it quite a long time ago it looked like it *might* be
configurable to run this sort of setup, although I don't have quite the same
understanding of how to work it all out as you seem to be able to do!
I just checked their website again to make sure there was still a free
version available (which there is), and noticed Skype is now mentioned in
the 'features' list (I'm not sure whether it was there when I looked a year
or two ago).
If it can be hooked into the Skype application running on the PC, I wouldn't
mind betting that a similar setup could be configured, but which would allow
people to use their own IP address, and therefore not have to share the
Betamax 'free-minutes' allowance 'per unique IP address'.
On Feb 11, 4:37*am, John <e7y8a...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> However, it seems that Orbtalk no longer provide free UK numbers to
> individual users. * *Are there any alternatives, and if so, how do I
> set them up?
Have a look at http://www.ukddi.com - free UK geographic numbers
routed wherever you like over SIP, IAX2 or H.323
I should declare an interest in this in that I run it..
"Rob" <nobody@this.place.invalid> wrote in message
news:Rc6dnVuhPfdJ8B_WnZ2dnUVZ8mqdnZ2d@brightview.c o.uk...
>
> Have you ever investigated using the 3CX system?
>
> When I looked at it quite a long time ago it looked like it *might* be
> configurable to run this sort of setup, although I don't have quite the
> same understanding of how to work it all out as you seem to be able to do!
>
> I just checked their website again to make sure there was still a free
> version available (which there is), and noticed Skype is now mentioned in
> the 'features' list (I'm not sure whether it was there when I looked a
> year or two ago).
>
> www.3cx.com/phone-system/
>
> If it can be hooked into the Skype application running on the PC, I
> wouldn't mind betting that a similar setup could be configured, but which
> would allow people to use their own IP address, and therefore not have to
> share the Betamax 'free-minutes' allowance 'per unique IP address'.
PS, answering my own post, but;
Having had a *very* quick look at some of the info on 3CX site, clicking the
Skype link takes you to;
"David Knell" <david.knell@gmail.com> wrote in message news:0749de87-109f-44ef-9e53-d085e7f93877@m37g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 11, 4:37 am, John <e7y8a...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> However, it seems that Orbtalk no longer provide free UK numbers to
> individual users. Are there any alternatives, and if so, how do I
> set them up?
Have a look at http://www.ukddi.com - free UK geographic numbers
routed wherever you like over SIP, IAX2 or H.323
I should declare an interest in this in that I run it..
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:23:04 -0000, "Graham." <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>Here is an enhansment that will give you single digit speed-dials 1-9 (zero will probebly work as well)
Thanks again. When I dial the full UK number my Skypephone caller id
is sent, but not when dialling the single digit speed-dials. Is this
normal or have I missed something?
> However, it seems that Orbtalk no longer provide free UK numbers to
> individual users. Are there any alternatives, and if so, how do I
> set them up?
Have a look at http://www.ukddi.com - free UK geographic numbers
routed wherever you like over SIP, IAX2 or H.323
I should declare an interest in this in that I run it..
> However, it seems that Orbtalk no longer provide free UK numbers to
> individual users. Are there any alternatives, and if so, how do I
> set them up?
Have a look at http://www.ukddi.com - free UK geographic numbers
routed wherever you like over SIP, IAX2 or H.323
I should declare an interest in this in that I run it..
--Dave
hi Dave,
I'm trying to route one of your numbers to my Smartvoip account but not have
much luck. I've entered sip:hammky@sip.smartvoip.com into the forwarding
field but when I phone I get a no such number tone
Hmm. I still seem to be having problems with this.
I have setup PBXes, and localphone, and the gateway is running on my
PC. The gateway picks up the call, but apart from the initial quarter
second or so burst of ringing, I don't get any sound coming back from
the gateway (no dial tone, no voice prompt for the call thru pin!).
If I set localphone to redirect to a phone number and unregister the
PBXes, this works, but it doesn't seem to work through PBXes.
Any ideas?
Incidentally, not sure if this is a windows 7 thing, or windows in
general, but if the O/S does not detect a microphone plugged in, no
sound is broadcast back to the skype end point (my mobile!)
"darrenk" <darren.kurn@gmail.com> wrote in message news:aeb0f0cc-216d-4192-912c-4faa74c19369@q16g2000yqq.googlegroups.com...
> Hmm. I still seem to be having problems with this.
>
> I have setup PBXes, and localphone, and the gateway is running on my
> PC. The gateway picks up the call, but apart from the initial quarter
> second or so burst of ringing, I don't get any sound coming back from
> the gateway (no dial tone, no voice prompt for the call thru pin!).
>
> If I set localphone to redirect to a phone number and unregister the
> PBXes, this works, but it doesn't seem to work through PBXes.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Incidentally, not sure if this is a windows 7 thing, or windows in
> general, but if the O/S does not detect a microphone plugged in, no
> sound is broadcast back to the skype end point (my mobile!)
Can you dial the phone number associated with your Localphone account
and get the pin prompt?
If so I think it must be to do with whatever you have put in the SkypeToSipAuth.props
Can you post what you have put, substitute some ?s in the account ID.
I suppose you realise that the 7 digit Account ID is different to the phone number (unlike Sipgate)
On 25 Feb, 13:08, "Graham." <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> "darrenk" <darren.k...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:aeb0f0cc-216d-4192-912c-4faa74c19369@q16g2000yqq.googlegroups.com...
> > Hmm. I still seem to be having problems with this.
>
> > I have setup PBXes, and localphone, and the gateway is running on my
> > PC. The gateway picks up the call, but apart from the initial quarter
> > second or so burst of ringing, I don't get any sound coming back from
> > the gateway (no dial tone, no voice prompt for the call thru pin!).
>
> > If I set localphone to redirect to a phone number and unregister the
> > PBXes, this works, but it doesn't seem to work through PBXes.
>
> > Any ideas?
>
> > Incidentally, not sure if this is a windows 7 thing, or windows in
> > general, but if the O/S does not detect a microphone plugged in, no
> > sound is broadcast back to the skype end point (my mobile!)
>
> Can you dial the phone number associated with your Localphone account
> and get the pin prompt?
> If so I think it must be to do with whatever you have put in the SkypeToSipAuth.props
> Can you post what you have put, substitute some ?s in the account ID.
> I suppose you realise that the 7 digit Account ID is different to the phone number (unlike Sipgate)
>
> --
> Graham.
>
> %Profound_observation%
OK, so I have tried dialling the number from my home phone and that
worked absolutely fine, I was able to enter my pin and was given the
usual options. So that is working fine.
I have reinstalled the SipToSis this morning, just to reset everything
back fresh, and then changed the bits that I needed to (retesting at
every step!)
First off, I have changed the SkypeToSipAuth.props to add the
following line...
*,sip:*******@localphone.com:5060
(replacing *'s with the localphone account number). At this point, I
tried again with dialing, and the call was hung up almost straight
away. In the command prompt window, I noticed that the "Attempting
call...." line was saying...
What I noticed is that it was using my internal IP address on this
network, and not my "real world" IP address. In order to change this
to use my actual IP address, in the siptosis.cfg file, I added...
contact_url=sip:gateway@***.***.***.***:5070
using my actual IP address. This seemed to work for the above line! I
then copied over (after reading some of the online help files) a
couple of codec files (Tritonous-gsm and Tritonous-share) just to make
sure that it was not a codec that is the problem. Still no joy!
Once again, I know that it is going through to PBXes, as I can see it
in the call log, but it is being dropped with no sound. When I disable
PBXes, and put a call forwarding number on the LocalPhone account, it
goes straight through to the forwarding number without any problems.
Last point, I notice on the command prompt window that the RPTSender
stats are as follows...
I think the best thing I can do is post the entire contents of my console window during a successful call.
I have bracketed the actual active call with two carriage returns.
Look at the Attempting call From: line, that's the internal IP of the gateway machine, so it looks like
that is correct.
The RTP media target: 188.165.199.37:45536 corresponds to www5.pbxes.com which it finds all by
itself as a consequence of the localphone trunk being registered there. Clever stuff (well I think so).
My gateway seems to be called skypests and not gateway, probably not important
2010-02-26 16:36:51,971 Starting SipToSis v20090829
2010-02-26 16:36:51,971 os=Windows Vista arch=x86 ver=6.0
2010-02-26 16:36:51,971 javaVer=1.6.0_17 - Sun Microsystems Inc. (32 bit)
2010-02-26 16:36:52,064 Available Codecs: PCMU(0),PCMA(8),iLBC(98)
2010-02-26 16:36:52,064 DTMF rfc2833(101)
2010-02-26 16:36:52,064 initSkype - If stuck, check Skype online & API auth
2010-02-26 16:36:52,924 SkypeVer:4.0.0.227
2010-02-26 16:36:52,939 Attached SkypeUserId:########
2010-02-26 16:36:52,955 Config - skypeClientSupportsMultiCalls:false concurrentCallLimit:2
2010-02-26 16:36:52,955 SipToSis contact_url=<sip:skypests@10.0.0.12:5070>
2010-02-26 16:36:52,955 via_addr=10.0.0.12 realm=
2010-02-26 16:36:52,955 RTP Ports: 63200-63202 Local Skype Ports: 64432-64435
2010-02-26 16:36:53,096 WAITING FOR INCOMING CALL
2010-02-26 16:36:53,096 WAITING FOR INCOMING CALL
2010-02-26 16:36:53,111 Registrar Server Domains=
2010-02-26 16:36:53,111 MaxCallTime: not limited MaxPSTNCallTime: not limited
2010-02-26 16:36:53,111 MaxDailyPSTNUniqueNumberCount: 48 MaxDailyPSTNMinutes: 350
2010-02-26 16:36:53,127 Loading Skype PSTN Call History
2010-02-26 16:36:53,189 1096 possible calls to import.
2010-02-26 16:36:53,205 0 PSTN calls imported
2010-02-26 16:36:53,283 PSTN counters reset at: 00:00:00 GMT
2010-02-26 16:36:53,299 Qualified PSTN calls today: 0 Time: 0 minutes
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