I have a Blackberry which does not come with a free native VOIP client -
that I am aware of anyway.
I am looking for a small, light device (for travelling) that I can use
as a VOIP client.
I guess something like an Ipod might be the answer, but I just wondered
if there were any other cheaper options. If the suggestion is a second
hand mobile phone, I would still not be using it as a mobile - as I have
my Blackberry, so it would not have a SIM card in. Would that still
allow the device to work as a VOIP client over wifi, or would I need a
SIM card in as well?
On 13/02/2011 12:07, Me wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Looking for some suggestions.
>
> I have a Blackberry which does not come with a free native VOIP client -
> that I am aware of anyway.
>
> I am looking for a small, light device (for travelling) that I can use
> as a VOIP client.
>
> I guess something like an Ipod might be the answer, but I just wondered
> if there were any other cheaper options. If the suggestion is a second
> hand mobile phone, I would still not be using it as a mobile - as I have
> my Blackberry, so it would not have a SIM card in. Would that still
> allow the device to work as a VOIP client over wifi, or would I need a
> SIM card in as well?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
There are a couple of non-free VOIP applications that may be cheaper
than a standalone box:
In article <kkhfl6pkqgngckg2gngbi1vfirqu9fv0n8@4ax.com>, Me <Me@me.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Looking for some suggestions.
>
>I have a Blackberry which does not come with a free native VOIP client -
>that I am aware of anyway.
>
>I am looking for a small, light device (for travelling) that I can use
>as a VOIP client.
>
>I guess something like an Ipod might be the answer, but I just wondered
>if there were any other cheaper options. If the suggestion is a second
>hand mobile phone, I would still not be using it as a mobile - as I have
>my Blackberry, so it would not have a SIM card in. Would that still
>allow the device to work as a VOIP client over wifi, or would I need a
>SIM card in as well?
>
>Thanks for any suggestions.
There are a number of portable Wi-Fi SIP phones avalable - they're
not cheap though, but some double as a regular GSM mobile too.
I've not really had that much success with public hotspots though -
it wil lreally depend on how many other people are using it, and if
they've blocked VoIP or not.
If changing your phone is an option, then there are many clients for
most other platforms - a lot of my clients are using the 3CX softphone
on their iPhone and Androids - connecting to my asterisk servers..
"Me" <Me@me.com> wrote in message news:kkhfl6pkqgngckg2gngbi1vfirqu9fv0n8@4ax.com...
> Hi,
>
> Looking for some suggestions.
>
> I have a Blackberry which does not come with a free native VOIP client -
> that I am aware of anyway.
>
> I am looking for a small, light device (for travelling) that I can use
> as a VOIP client.
>
> I guess something like an Ipod might be the answer, but I just wondered
> if there were any other cheaper options. If the suggestion is a second
> hand mobile phone, I would still not be using it as a mobile - as I have
> my Blackberry, so it would not have a SIM card in. Would that still
> allow the device to work as a VOIP client over wifi, or would I need a
> SIM card in as well?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
How about a 3 Skypephone S2 and make your calls via a Skype to SIP gateway
running on a machine at home? http://skypegateway.webs.com
My student son has been using such an arrangement successfully for about 18 months
and has never had the need to apply any 3 credit.
As a bonus, I can call him free Skype to Skype, or from the PSTN at geographic rates
via a ring2skype number.
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:07:50 +0000, Me <Me@me.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Looking for some suggestions.
>
>I have a Blackberry which does not come with a free native VOIP client -
>that I am aware of anyway.
>
>I am looking for a small, light device (for travelling) that I can use
>as a VOIP client.
>
>I guess something like an Ipod might be the answer, but I just wondered
>if there were any other cheaper options. If the suggestion is a second
>hand mobile phone, I would still not be using it as a mobile - as I have
>my Blackberry, so it would not have a SIM card in. Would that still
>allow the device to work as a VOIP client over wifi, or would I need a
>SIM card in as well?
>
>Thanks for any suggestions.
Thank you all for your suggestions to date.
I should add that for connecting to a VOIP network, I will be wanting to
use my Sipdiscount account. Also, I hope to be able to use private wifi
networks (hotels etc.) rather than public ones.
In article <v96gl6lefv0dfifmi3t9b6r6jeg8b20rbp@4ax.com>, Me <Me@me.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:07:50 +0000, Me <Me@me.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Looking for some suggestions.
>>
>>I have a Blackberry which does not come with a free native VOIP client -
>>that I am aware of anyway.
>>
>>I am looking for a small, light device (for travelling) that I can use
>>as a VOIP client.
>>
>>I guess something like an Ipod might be the answer, but I just wondered
>>if there were any other cheaper options. If the suggestion is a second
>>hand mobile phone, I would still not be using it as a mobile - as I have
>>my Blackberry, so it would not have a SIM card in. Would that still
>>allow the device to work as a VOIP client over wifi, or would I need a
>>SIM card in as well?
>>
>>Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>Thank you all for your suggestions to date.
>
>I should add that for connecting to a VOIP network, I will be wanting to
>use my Sipdiscount account. Also, I hope to be able to use private wifi
>networks (hotels etc.) rather than public ones.
An issue you might have on a public or private Wi-Fi network is that of
authentication. If they put up a landing page and invite you to login, you
might well be stuffed unless the phone provids you with a web browser. I
had one of the early UTStarcom Wi-Fi phones and while it was rubbish in
many way, it was even more rubbish when I needed to go via a login type
landing page as it simply couldn't cope.
So public or private, if it needs some sort of authentication, even if
it's free, you might well be stuck.
The soft-phones that run on spartphones can work because you'll use the
web browse in the smartphone to register with the gateway first.
>>I should add that for connecting to a VOIP network, I will be wanting to
>>use my Sipdiscount account. Also, I hope to be able to use private wifi
>>networks (hotels etc.) rather than public ones.
>
>An issue you might have on a public or private Wi-Fi network is that of
>authentication. If they put up a landing page and invite you to login, you
>might well be stuffed unless the phone provids you with a web browser. I
>had one of the early UTStarcom Wi-Fi phones and while it was rubbish in
>many way, it was even more rubbish when I needed to go via a login type
>landing page as it simply couldn't cope.
>
>So public or private, if it needs some sort of authentication, even if
>it's free, you might well be stuck.
>
>The soft-phones that run on spartphones can work because you'll use the
>web browse in the smartphone to register with the gateway first.
Hi Gordon,
I have a way around that if in an hotel and that is with some free
software called Connectify (http://www.connectify.me/)
Connectify is an easy to use software router for Windows 7 computers.
After downloading and installing the lightweight application, Connectify
utilizes your computers' built in Wi-Fi card to wirelessly share any
available Internet connection: a cable modem, a cellular card, or even
another Wi-Fi network. Other Wi-Fi enabled devices including laptops,
smart phones, music players, and gaming systems can see and join your
Connectify hotspot just like any other Wi-Fi access point and are kept
safe and secure by password-protected WPA2 Encryption.
So, once the laptop has authenticated, you can connect the wifi phone to
the newly created software based network.
In article <11ngl6pujibtue9j4vo7qoh7er66f3kd4t@4ax.com>, Me <Me@me.com> wrote:
>>>I should add that for connecting to a VOIP network, I will be wanting to
>>>use my Sipdiscount account. Also, I hope to be able to use private wifi
>>>networks (hotels etc.) rather than public ones.
>>
>>An issue you might have on a public or private Wi-Fi network is that of
>>authentication. If they put up a landing page and invite you to login, you
>>might well be stuffed unless the phone provids you with a web browser. I
>>had one of the early UTStarcom Wi-Fi phones and while it was rubbish in
>>many way, it was even more rubbish when I needed to go via a login type
>>landing page as it simply couldn't cope.
>>
>>So public or private, if it needs some sort of authentication, even if
>>it's free, you might well be stuck.
>>
>>The soft-phones that run on spartphones can work because you'll use the
>>web browse in the smartphone to register with the gateway first.
>
>Hi Gordon,
>
>I have a way around that if in an hotel and that is with some free
>software called Connectify (http://www.connectify.me/)
>
>Connectify is an easy to use software router for Windows 7 computers.
>After downloading and installing the lightweight application, Connectify
>utilizes your computers' built in Wi-Fi card to wirelessly share any
>available Internet connection: a cable modem, a cellular card, or even
>another Wi-Fi network. Other Wi-Fi enabled devices including laptops,
>smart phones, music players, and gaming systems can see and join your
>Connectify hotspot just like any other Wi-Fi access point and are kept
>safe and secure by password-protected WPA2 Encryption.
>
>So, once the laptop has authenticated, you can connect the wifi phone to
>the newly created software based network.
My way round it is to have a decent phone and not bother with all
this rubbish. I pick up my mobile, select GSM/3G or Wi-Fi. I make a
call. Sorted.
And since you need a Win7 laptop to do this, why not simply add a headset
to the laptop and make a VoIP call from that...
"Me" <Me@me.com> wrote in message
news:kkhfl6pkqgngckg2gngbi1vfirqu9fv0n8@4ax.com...
> Hi,
>
> Looking for some suggestions.
>
> I have a Blackberry which does not come with a free native VOIP client -
> that I am aware of anyway.
>
> I am looking for a small, light device (for travelling) that I can use
> as a VOIP client.
>
> I guess something like an Ipod might be the answer, but I just wondered
> if there were any other cheaper options. If the suggestion is a second
> hand mobile phone, I would still not be using it as a mobile - as I have
> my Blackberry, so it would not have a SIM card in. Would that still
> allow the device to work as a VOIP client over wifi, or would I need a
> SIM card in as well?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
Many Nokia E and N series phones support SIP native and work over wi-fi.
Not sure if they will start without a SIM card (but an exhausted P&G will
do).
"Gordon Henderson" <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote in message
news:ij9cba$30hi$1@news.enta.net...
> In article <v96gl6lefv0dfifmi3t9b6r6jeg8b20rbp@4ax.com>, Me <Me@me.com>
> wrote:
>>On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 12:07:50 +0000, Me <Me@me.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Looking for some suggestions.
>>>
>>>I have a Blackberry which does not come with a free native VOIP client -
>>>that I am aware of anyway.
>>>
>>>I am looking for a small, light device (for travelling) that I can use
>>>as a VOIP client.
>>>
>>>I guess something like an Ipod might be the answer, but I just wondered
>>>if there were any other cheaper options. If the suggestion is a second
>>>hand mobile phone, I would still not be using it as a mobile - as I have
>>>my Blackberry, so it would not have a SIM card in. Would that still
>>>allow the device to work as a VOIP client over wifi, or would I need a
>>>SIM card in as well?
>>>
>>>Thanks for any suggestions.
>>
>>Thank you all for your suggestions to date.
>>
>>I should add that for connecting to a VOIP network, I will be wanting to
>>use my Sipdiscount account. Also, I hope to be able to use private wifi
>>networks (hotels etc.) rather than public ones.
>
> An issue you might have on a public or private Wi-Fi network is that of
> authentication. If they put up a landing page and invite you to login, you
> might well be stuffed unless the phone provids you with a web browser. I
> had one of the early UTStarcom Wi-Fi phones and while it was rubbish in
> many way, it was even more rubbish when I needed to go via a login type
> landing page as it simply couldn't cope.
>
> So public or private, if it needs some sort of authentication, even if
> it's free, you might well be stuck.
>
> The soft-phones that run on spartphones can work because you'll use the
> web browse in the smartphone to register with the gateway first.
True, but most mobiles that support SIP have a browser - just load a page
first and the connection can be used for VOIP too.
>
> Consider upgrading your mobile to andriod...
>
> Gordon
In article <t9-dnQybf5lPvMTQnZ2dnUVZ8kWdnZ2d@bt.com>,
R. Mark Clayton <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>"Me" <Me@me.com> wrote in message
>news:kkhfl6pkqgngckg2gngbi1vfirqu9fv0n8@4ax.com.. .
>> Hi,
>>
>> Looking for some suggestions.
>>
>> I have a Blackberry which does not come with a free native VOIP client -
>> that I am aware of anyway.
>>
>> I am looking for a small, light device (for travelling) that I can use
>> as a VOIP client.
>>
>> I guess something like an Ipod might be the answer, but I just wondered
>> if there were any other cheaper options. If the suggestion is a second
>> hand mobile phone, I would still not be using it as a mobile - as I have
>> my Blackberry, so it would not have a SIM card in. Would that still
>> allow the device to work as a VOIP client over wifi, or would I need a
>> SIM card in as well?
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
>
>Many Nokia E and N series phones support SIP native and work over wi-fi.
>
>Not sure if they will start without a SIM card (but an exhausted P&G will
>do).
My Nokia E90 and N900 will start and run VoIP over Wi-Fi without
a SIM card.
In article <t9-dnQybf5lPvMTQnZ2dnUVZ8kWdnZ2d@bt.com>,
"R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> writes:
>
> Many Nokia E and N series phones support SIP native and work over wi-fi.
>
> Not sure if they will start without a SIM card (but an exhausted P&G will
> do).
Just tried an E71, and that's OK without a SIM.
You just have to answer an extra question:
"Do you really want to activate WiFi in offline mode?"
(It defaults to offline mode with no SIM.)
--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
Meanwhile, at the uk.telecom.voip Job Justification Hearings, Me chose the
tried and tested strategy of:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 09:31:41 +0000 (UTC), Gordon Henderson
> <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> wrote:
>
>>And since you need a Win7 laptop to do this, why not simply add a headset
>>to the laptop and make a VoIP call from that...
>
> Sitting in a sunny garden somewhere in the South of France, I don't want
> to have to carry a laptop with me.
Well it was your idea in the first place.
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