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Old 01-05-2008, 12:58 PM
Stephen Hammond
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Default Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities

Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities Sony is set to announce that a voice over
internet protocol (VoIP) feature is coming to its leading gaming console the
PSP.

Users of the console will be able to talk to online peers over the web using
free internet communication programme Skype, enhancing the capabilities of
the PSP.

The news was broken on the Consumer Electronic Show news section on Sony's
website, which lists Skype as one of the latest version of the game
console's top features.

Last year Sony announced that it would be partnering with BT to provide the
PSP Go! Messenger service as of January this year.

It is currently unclear how these plans relate to Sony's latest
announcement, with industry experts speculating that as the two applications
offer similar features the services could be combined.

Potential benefits of the PSP's new VoIP capabilities for gamers include the
ability to talk to opponents while playing and swap hints and tips with
other users online.

In late 2007 Skype expanded its service further by entering into a
partnership with mobile phone provider 3.

As part of the deal users of 3's Skype phone were given access to unlimited
free VoIP calls to other Skype users worldwide.




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Old 01-05-2008, 03:26 PM
Ian Pawson
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Default Re: Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities

Stephen Hammond wrote:
> Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities Sony is set to announce that a voice over
> internet protocol (VoIP) feature is coming to its leading gaming console the
> PSP.
>
> Users of the console will be able to talk to online peers over the web using
> free internet communication programme Skype, enhancing the capabilities of
> the PSP.
>
> The news was broken on the Consumer Electronic Show news section on Sony's
> website, which lists Skype as one of the latest version of the game
> console's top features.
>
> Last year Sony announced that it would be partnering with BT to provide the
> PSP Go! Messenger service as of January this year.
>
> It is currently unclear how these plans relate to Sony's latest
> announcement, with industry experts speculating that as the two applications
> offer similar features the services could be combined.
>
> Potential benefits of the PSP's new VoIP capabilities for gamers include the
> ability to talk to opponents while playing and swap hints and tips with
> other users online.
>
> In late 2007 Skype expanded its service further by entering into a
> partnership with mobile phone provider 3.
>
> As part of the deal users of 3's Skype phone were given access to unlimited
> free VoIP calls to other Skype users worldwide.
>
>
>
>

But Skype is not voip, it is a proprietary peer to peer system

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Old 01-05-2008, 03:58 PM
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Default Re: Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities

On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:26:22 +0000, Ian Pawson wrote:

> Stephen Hammond wrote:
>> Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities Sony is set to announce that a voice
>> over internet protocol (VoIP) feature is coming to its leading gaming
>> console the PSP.
>>
>> Users of the console will be able to talk to online peers over the web
>> using free internet communication programme Skype, enhancing the
>> capabilities of the PSP.


> But Skype is not voip, it is a proprietary peer to peer system


Skype's proprietary status does not preclude it from being VoIP.

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Old 01-05-2008, 04:30 PM
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"alexd" <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:477fa937$0$514$bed64819@news.gradwell.net
: : On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:26:22 +0000, Ian Pawson wrote:
: :
: : : Stephen Hammond wrote:
: : : : Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities Sony is set to
: : : : announce that a voice over internet protocol (VoIP)
: : : : feature is coming to its leading gaming console the
: : : : PSP.
: : : :
: : : : Users of the console will be able to talk to online
: : : : peers over the web using free internet
: : : : communication programme Skype, enhancing the
: : : : capabilities of the PSP.
: :
: : : But Skype is not voip, it is a proprietary peer to
: : : peer system
: :
: : Skype's proprietary status does not preclude it from
: : being VoIP.

Unfortunate but true.

Ivor


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Old 01-06-2008, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities

Ivor Jones wrote:
> Skype's proprietary status does not preclude
> it from
> : : being VoIP.
>
> Unfortunate but true.
>
> Ivor
>


Agreed. A SIP-based app would be better, but still not much more than a
novelty.

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Old 01-06-2008, 12:30 PM
Ian Pawson
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alexd wrote:
> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:26:22 +0000, Ian Pawson wrote:
>
>> Stephen Hammond wrote:
>>> Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities Sony is set to announce that a voice
>>> over internet protocol (VoIP) feature is coming to its leading gaming
>>> console the PSP.
>>>
>>> Users of the console will be able to talk to online peers over the web
>>> using free internet communication programme Skype, enhancing the
>>> capabilities of the PSP.

>
>> But Skype is not voip, it is a proprietary peer to peer system

>
> Skype's proprietary status does not preclude it from being VoIP.
>

voip is a point to point system whereas Skype is a peer to peer system
ie you pay for them to be able to use your broadband connection all the
time that you are on-line.

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Old 01-06-2008, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities

Ian Pawson wrote:
> voip is a point to point system


Wrong.

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Old 01-06-2008, 04:15 PM
Ivor Jones
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"Ian Pawson" <ian@ipawson.com> wrote in message
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[snip]

: : voip is a point to point system

Wrong.

: :whereas Skype is a peer
: : to peer system ie you pay for them to be able to use
: : your broadband connection all the time that you are
: : on-line.

Only if you become a "super" node. If you're not running the program they
can't use your bandwidth and they can't if you're the other side of a NAT
router anyway.

Ivor


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Old 01-06-2008, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:30:03 +0000, Ian Pawson wrote:

> alexd wrote:
>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 15:26:22 +0000, Ian Pawson wrote:


>>> But Skype is not voip, it is a proprietary peer to peer system

>>
>> Skype's proprietary status does not preclude it from being VoIP.
>>

> voip is a point to point system


What does that mean?

> whereas Skype is a peer to peer system ie you pay for them to be able
> to use your broadband connection all the time that you are on-line.


It's still VoIP.

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Old 01-06-2008, 09:07 PM
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Default Re: Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:15:51 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:

>and they can't if you're the other side of a NAT
>router anyway.


I'm not sure that is completely right.


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Old 01-06-2008, 10:16 PM
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"Al Paca" <Al-Paca@lostsomewhereinperu.com> wrote in
message
news:vng2o3h7t54vri6100d2p1bb0qupnbn3qt@news.indiv idual.de
: : On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:15:51 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
: :
: : : and they can't if you're the other side of a NAT
: : : router anyway.
: :
: : I'm not sure that is completely right.

Well that's what I was told, I have no first hand experience as I refuse
to use the thing on principle.

Ivor


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Old 01-07-2008, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities

In article <5ud2avF1gr13uU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> writes:
> "Al Paca" <Al-Paca@lostsomewhereinperu.com> wrote in
> message
> news:vng2o3h7t54vri6100d2p1bb0qupnbn3qt@news.indiv idual.de
>: : On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:15:51 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
>: : <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
>: :
>: : : and they can't if you're the other side of a NAT
>: : : router anyway.
>: :
>: : I'm not sure that is completely right.
>
> Well that's what I was told, I have no first hand experience as I refuse
> to use the thing on principle.


That matches my experience. I was allocating real/routable IP
addresses on my home network. When lots of family came to stay
over Christmas, I noticed loads of broadband traffic going all
over the world when no one was apparently doing anything, and
initially thought their laptops were riddled with viruses.
On closer investigation, it was all Skype traffic. (Don't use
Skype myself, only RFC VoIP.) I changed my network config to
dish out NAT'ed 192.168 addresses and the problem went away.
I presume the windows laptops stopped being supernodes.

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Old 01-10-2008, 09:11 AM
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Default Re: Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities

Ian Pawson wrote:

> voip is a point to point system whereas


Incorrect

> Skype is a peer to peer system


Mostly correct

> ie you pay for them to be able to use your broadband connection all the
> time that you are on-line.


Incorrect. They use it whether or not you pay.

VOIP is Voice Over IP. Skype is not a system that I'd recommend, but it
is VOIP.


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Old 01-10-2008, 05:32 PM
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Too bad that the system's only available on the "slim" model. My fat model is still preferred because it's easier for software piracy :D
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Old 01-10-2008, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities

Iain wrote:
> Ian Pawson wrote:
>
>> voip is a point to point system whereas

>
> Incorrect
>
>> Skype is a peer to peer system

>
> Mostly correct
>
>> ie you pay for them to be able to use your broadband connection all the
>> time that you are on-line.

>
> Incorrect. They use it whether or not you pay.
>
> VOIP is Voice Over IP. Skype is not a system that I'd recommend, but it
> is VOIP.
>

I meant that you are paying for your broadband service that skype use
for free

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Old 01-10-2008, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: Sony to give PSP VoIP capabilities

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:43:15 +0000, Ian Pawson wrote:

> Iain wrote:
>> Ian Pawson wrote:


>>> ie you pay for them to be able to use your broadband connection all
>>> the time that you are on-line.

>>
>> Incorrect. They use it whether or not you pay.


> I meant that you are paying for your broadband service that skype use
> for free


You say that as if you're not doing exactly the same thing to other
people's internet connections when /you/ use Skype. Swings and
roundabouts, innit?

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