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Old 08-06-2006, 07:16 AM
Robert Gauld
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Default SPA-3000 inbound call from PSTN

Hopefully a quick question, using an SPA-3000 is it possible to do the
following? If not is there a similar unit (as in small and not that
expensive) which can, or do I have to go to a PC with trixbox?

Call comes in from PSTN
If call is from my mobile then:
Provide a VOIP dial tone
Else:
Divert call to a VOIP number with no (or near to no) delay

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Old 08-06-2006, 11:58 AM
Jono
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Default Re: SPA-3000 inbound call from PSTN

Robert Gauld explained :
> Hopefully a quick question, using an SPA-3000 is it possible to do the
> following? If not is there a similar unit (as in small and not that
> expensive) which can, or do I have to go to a PC with trixbox?
>
> Call comes in from PSTN
> If call is from my mobile then:
> Provide a VOIP dial tone
> Else:
> Divert call to a VOIP number with no (or near to no) delay


It's certainly possible to do both, however, I'm not sure it can do
both at once.....will the divert/forward stop it giving you dial tone
when you call in on your mobile?

I suppose you would make use of the "PSTN Caller ID Pattern:" section
for your mobile on the PSTN Line tab. On the User 1 tab, set up a
forward on no answer, with a shorter delay for other calls.

Will you be diverting to a VoIP number from the same provider as you
have configured on your device?



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Old 08-06-2006, 12:49 PM
Robert Gauld
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Jono wrote:
> Robert Gauld explained :
>> Hopefully a quick question, using an SPA-3000 is it possible to do the
>> following? If not is there a similar unit (as in small and not that
>> expensive) which can, or do I have to go to a PC with trixbox?
>>
>> Call comes in from PSTN
>> If call is from my mobile then:
>> Provide a VOIP dial tone
>> Else:
>> Divert call to a VOIP number with no (or near to no) delay

>
> It's certainly possible to do both, however, I'm not sure it can do both
> at once.....


which is exactly why I'm asking.

will the divert/forward stop it giving you dial tone when
> you call in on your mobile?
>
> I suppose you would make use of the "PSTN Caller ID Pattern:" section
> for your mobile on the PSTN Line tab. On the User 1 tab, set up a
> forward on no answer, with a shorter delay for other calls.
>
> Will you be diverting to a VoIP number from the same provider as you
> have configured on your device?
>
>

Sorry should probably have been more precise on that. It will either
forward to a number from the same provider (one of those 7 number
jobbies) or to a static IP.

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Old 08-06-2006, 02:17 PM
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"Robert Gauld" <zenadsl6355@zen.co.uk> wrote in message
news:44d58900$0$15041$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Hopefully a quick question, using an SPA-3000 is it possible to do the
> following? If not is there a similar unit (as in small and not that
> expensive) which can, or do I have to go to a PC with trixbox?
>
> Call comes in from PSTN
> If call is from my mobile then:
> Provide a VOIP dial tone
> Else:
> Divert call to a VOIP number with no (or near to no) delay


If you do use Asterisk you can do what I do

Call comes in (DDI used specifically for this purpose). Call is not
answered.
Asterisk waits 5 seconds then returns the call to the CLI it just
registered.
You answer the call and Asterisk asks you for a password then gives you
dialtone.

The beauty of this is no charge whatsoever is made to the initiating phone
so for example, I can use my Company mobile to make personal international
calls and the kids can make calls from their PAYG mobiles with minimal
credit
(Asterisk logs everything of course)


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Old 08-06-2006, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: SPA-3000 inbound call from PSTN

Robert Gauld expressed precisely :
> Jono wrote:
>> Robert Gauld explained :
>>> Hopefully a quick question, using an SPA-3000 is it possible to do the
>>> following? If not is there a similar unit (as in small and not that
>>> expensive) which can, or do I have to go to a PC with trixbox?
>>>
>>> Call comes in from PSTN
>>> If call is from my mobile then:
>>> Provide a VOIP dial tone
>>> Else:
>>> Divert call to a VOIP number with no (or near to no) delay

>>
>> It's certainly possible to do both, however, I'm not sure it can do both
>> at once.....

>
> which is exactly why I'm asking.
>
> will the divert/forward stop it giving you dial tone when
>> you call in on your mobile?
>>
>> I suppose you would make use of the "PSTN Caller ID Pattern:" section
>> for your mobile on the PSTN Line tab. On the User 1 tab, set up a
>> forward on no answer, with a shorter delay for other calls.
>>
>> Will you be diverting to a VoIP number from the same provider as you
>> have configured on your device?
>>
>>

> Sorry should probably have been more precise on that. It will either
> forward to a number from the same provider (one of those 7 number
> jobbies) or to a static IP.


Do you not have one yet?



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Old 08-06-2006, 05:38 PM
Robert Gauld
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Default Re: SPA-3000 inbound call from PSTN

Jono wrote:
> Robert Gauld expressed precisely :
>> Jono wrote:
>>> Robert Gauld explained :
>>>> Hopefully a quick question, using an SPA-3000 is it possible to do the
>>>> following? If not is there a similar unit (as in small and not that
>>>> expensive) which can, or do I have to go to a PC with trixbox?
>>>>
>>>> Call comes in from PSTN
>>>> If call is from my mobile then:
>>>> Provide a VOIP dial tone
>>>> Else:
>>>> Divert call to a VOIP number with no (or near to no) delay
>>>
>>> It's certainly possible to do both, however, I'm not sure it can do both
>>> at once.....

>>
>> which is exactly why I'm asking.
>>
>> will the divert/forward stop it giving you dial tone when
>>> you call in on your mobile?
>>>
>>> I suppose you would make use of the "PSTN Caller ID Pattern:" section
>>> for your mobile on the PSTN Line tab. On the User 1 tab, set up a
>>> forward on no answer, with a shorter delay for other calls.
>>>
>>> Will you be diverting to a VoIP number from the same provider as you
>>> have configured on your device?
>>>
>>>

>> Sorry should probably have been more precise on that. It will either
>> forward to a number from the same provider (one of those 7 number
>> jobbies) or to a static IP.

>
> Do you not have one yet?
>
>

No - I'm asking if it can before I buy one - hence the "If not is there
a similar unit (as in small and not that expensive) which can" part of
my original question. I wanted to find out if it would / might work or
if it's already been tried with/without success before parting with my
money.

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Old 08-06-2006, 05:41 PM
Jono
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Default Re: SPA-3000 inbound call from PSTN

Robert Gauld formulated on Sunday :

>>
>> Do you not have one yet?
>>
>>

> No - I'm asking if it can before I buy one - hence the "If not is there
> a similar unit (as in small and not that expensive) which can" part of
> my original question. I wanted to find out if it would / might work or
> if it's already been tried with/without success before parting with my
> money.


Fair enough. There'll be someone along here, at some point, I would
imagine' that'd be prepared to try it on their device.

Have you looked in the Linksys/Sipura user forum at http://voxilla.com
?



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Old 08-06-2006, 06:26 PM
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Default Re: SPA-3000 inbound call from PSTN

In article <44d5ebdf$1_2@x-privat.org>, Graham. <me@privacy.com> writes
>
>"Robert Gauld" <zenadsl6355@zen.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:44d58900$0$15041$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk.. .
>> Hopefully a quick question, using an SPA-3000 is it possible to do the
>> following? If not is there a similar unit (as in small and not that
>> expensive) which can, or do I have to go to a PC with trixbox?
>>
>> Call comes in from PSTN
>> If call is from my mobile then:
>> Provide a VOIP dial tone
>> Else:
>> Divert call to a VOIP number with no (or near to no) delay

>
>If you do use Asterisk you can do what I do
>
>Call comes in (DDI used specifically for this purpose). Call is not
>answered.
>Asterisk waits 5 seconds then returns the call to the CLI it just
>registered.
>You answer the call and Asterisk asks you for a password then gives you
>dialtone.
>
>The beauty of this is no charge whatsoever is made to the initiating phone
>so for example, I can use my Company mobile to make personal international
>calls and the kids can make calls from their PAYG mobiles with minimal
>credit
>(Asterisk logs everything of course)
>
>

I would appreciate an example of how you set this up on Asterisk, it's
something I would like to do, but, a working example might just get me
started !

I have an spa3000, had a couple of stabs at getting it configured as
pstn gateway for *, its now back in the box for a while.....

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Old 08-06-2006, 07:06 PM
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> I would appreciate an example of how you set this up on Asterisk, it's
> something I would like to do, but, a working example might just get me
> started !
>
> I have an spa3000, had a couple of stabs at getting it configured as
> pstn gateway for *, its now back in the box for a while.....
>



This is the Nerd Vittles article that whetted my apatite.

http://nerdvittles.com/index.php?p=73

Look at the heading "One ringy-dingy"

I ended up doing things a little differently, the dialtone gives me access
to the 'from internal' context so I can do anything a local extension can
do.
I use a Sipgate trunk to receive the initial trigger call,
and VoIPCHEAP to make the call-back and the onward call (only one account
needed though).

If I have time I will post my config file later. I will need to censor it
first.


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Old 08-06-2006, 08:17 PM
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OK here is what I did.
Paste something like this at the bottom of extensions_custom.conf
where: 2462468 is my sipgate number (and incoming user context)
and: 1234 is the DISA (or should that be DOSA:-) password
Point the incomming route for 2462468 to custom app:
custom-ringy-in,6608571,1







;graham one ringy dingy
[custom-ringy-in]
exten => 2462468,1,NoOp
exten => 2462468,2,Congestion
exten => 2462468,3,Hangup


exten => h,1,SetCIDNum(${CALLERIDNUM:1})
;the ':1' above strips the first digit (0)
exten => h,2,System(echo channel: SIP/VOIPCHEAP/0044${CALLERIDNUM} >
/tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
;the '0044' above adds prefix
exten => h,3,System(echo context: custom-callout >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
exten => h,4,System(echo extension: ${CALLERIDNUM} >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
exten => h,5,System(echo priority: 1 >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
exten => h,6,System(echo callerid: >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}) ; Your CallerID
for your TelaSIP account goes here (just use this line as-is. Graham)
exten => h,7,System(echo sleep 10 > /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
exten => h,8,System(echo cp /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM} /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing
>> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)

exten => h,9,System(chmod 775 /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
exten => h,10,System(/tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
exten => h,11,Hangup()

[custom-callout]
exten => s,1,Background(silence/1)
;exten => s,3,Background(asterisk-friend) ; announcment too anoying,
commented out.
exten => s,2,Authenticate(1234)
exten => s,3,DISA(no-password|from-internal)





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Old 08-06-2006, 08:21 PM
Graham.
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OK here is what I did.
Paste something like this at the bottom of extensions_custom.conf
where: 2462468 is my sipgate number (and incoming user context)
and: 1234 is the DISA (or should that be DOSA:-) password
Point the incomming route for 2462468 to custom app:
custom-ringy-in,2462468,1







;graham one ringy dingy
[custom-ringy-in]
exten => 2462468,1,NoOp
exten => 2462468,2,Congestion
exten => 2462468,3,Hangup


exten => h,1,SetCIDNum(${CALLERIDNUM:1})
;the ':1' above strips the first digit (0)
exten => h,2,System(echo channel: SIP/VOIPCHEAP/0044${CALLERIDNUM} >
/tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
;the '0044' above adds prefix
exten => h,3,System(echo context: custom-callout >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
exten => h,4,System(echo extension: ${CALLERIDNUM} >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
exten => h,5,System(echo priority: 1 >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
exten => h,6,System(echo callerid: >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}) ; Your CallerID
for your TelaSIP account goes here (just use this line as-is. Graham)
exten => h,7,System(echo sleep 10 > /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
exten => h,8,System(echo cp /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM} /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing
>> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)

exten => h,9,System(chmod 775 /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
exten => h,10,System(/tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
exten => h,11,Hangup()

[custom-callout]
exten => s,1,Background(silence/1)
;exten => s,3,Background(asterisk-friend) ; announcment too anoying,
commented out.
exten => s,2,Authenticate(1234)
exten => s,3,DISA(no-password|from-internal)






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Old 08-06-2006, 08:51 PM
Robert Gauld
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Jono wrote:
> Robert Gauld formulated on Sunday :
>
>>>
>>> Do you not have one yet?
>>>
>>>

>> No - I'm asking if it can before I buy one - hence the "If not is there
>> a similar unit (as in small and not that expensive) which can" part of
>> my original question. I wanted to find out if it would / might work or
>> if it's already been tried with/without success before parting with my
>> money.

>
> Fair enough. There'll be someone along here, at some point, I would
> imagine' that'd be prepared to try it on their device.
>
> Have you looked in the Linksys/Sipura user forum at http://voxilla.com ?
>
>


Thanks for the link. It appears the options I'm after are mutually
exclusive so can't both be done at the same time.

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Old 08-06-2006, 09:04 PM
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In article <44d6411d_1@x-privat.org>, Graham. <me@privacy.com> writes
>OK here is what I did.
>Paste something like this at the bottom of extensions_custom.conf
>where: 2462468 is my sipgate number (and incoming user context)
>and: 1234 is the DISA (or should that be DOSA:-) password
>Point the incomming route for 2462468 to custom app:
>custom-ringy-in,2462468,1
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>;graham one ringy dingy
>[custom-ringy-in]
>exten => 2462468,1,NoOp
>exten => 2462468,2,Congestion
>exten => 2462468,3,Hangup
>
>
>exten => h,1,SetCIDNum(${CALLERIDNUM:1})
>;the ':1' above strips the first digit (0)
>exten => h,2,System(echo channel: SIP/VOIPCHEAP/0044${CALLERIDNUM} >
>/tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
>;the '0044' above adds prefix
>exten => h,3,System(echo context: custom-callout >>

/tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
>exten => h,4,System(echo extension: ${CALLERIDNUM} >>

/tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
>exten => h,5,System(echo priority: 1 >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
>exten => h,6,System(echo callerid: >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}) ; Your

CallerID
>for your TelaSIP account goes here (just use this line as-is. Graham)
>exten => h,7,System(echo sleep 10 > /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
>exten => h,8,System(echo cp /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}

/var/spool/asterisk/outgoing
> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
>exten => h,9,System(chmod 775 /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
>exten => h,10,System(/tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
>exten => h,11,Hangup()
>
>[custom-callout]
>exten => s,1,Background(silence/1)
>;exten => s,3,Background(asterisk-friend) ; announcment too anoying,
>commented out.
>exten => s,2,Authenticate(1234)
>exten => s,3,DISA(no-password|from-internal)



Thanks Graham,

I had a look a while ago at the nerdvittles article, & had been circling
round it & other similar how-to's, just need to get the grey matter in
gear & some uninterrupted time.


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Old 08-09-2006, 09:28 PM
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In article <44d6411d_1@x-privat.org>, Graham. <me@privacy.com> writes
>OK here is what I did.
>Paste something like this at the bottom of extensions_custom.conf
>where: 2462468 is my sipgate number (and incoming user context)
>and: 1234 is the DISA (or should that be DOSA:-) password
>Point the incomming route for 2462468 to custom app:
>custom-ringy-in,2462468,1
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>;graham one ringy dingy
>[custom-ringy-in]
>exten => 2462468,1,NoOp
>exten => 2462468,2,Congestion
>exten => 2462468,3,Hangup
>
>
>exten => h,1,SetCIDNum(${CALLERIDNUM:1})
>;the ':1' above strips the first digit (0)
>exten => h,2,System(echo channel: SIP/VOIPCHEAP/0044${CALLERIDNUM} >
>/tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
>;the '0044' above adds prefix
>exten => h,3,System(echo context: custom-callout >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
>exten => h,4,System(echo extension: ${CALLERIDNUM} >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
>exten => h,5,System(echo priority: 1 >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
>exten => h,6,System(echo callerid: >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}) ; Your CallerID
>for your TelaSIP account goes here (just use this line as-is. Graham)
>exten => h,7,System(echo sleep 10 > /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
>exten => h,8,System(echo cp /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM} /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing
> >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)

>exten => h,9,System(chmod 775 /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
>exten => h,10,System(/tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
>exten => h,11,Hangup()
>
>[custom-callout]
>exten => s,1,Background(silence/1)
>;exten => s,3,Background(asterisk-friend) ; announcment too anoying,
>commented out.
>exten => s,2,Authenticate(1234)
>exten => s,3,DISA(no-password|from-internal)
>


Just working this up using voip.co.uk, they do not require international
format. & to make things interesting, I would like this to include
access from a Spanish 0034 number.
I think I have it cracked, I will test using the UK setup to check for
typo's & then rework a little.

Any comments ?


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Old 08-09-2006, 10:08 PM
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In article <8kcfpVA9Vk2EFAPU@starfire.demon.co.uk>,
news1001@starfire.demon.co.uk writes
>In article <44d6411d_1@x-privat.org>, Graham. <me@privacy.com> writes
>>OK here is what I did.
>>Paste something like this at the bottom of extensions_custom.conf
>>where: 2462468 is my sipgate number (and incoming user context)
>>and: 1234 is the DISA (or should that be DOSA:-) password
>>Point the incomming route for 2462468 to custom app:
>>custom-ringy-in,2462468,1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>;graham one ringy dingy
>>[custom-ringy-in]
>>exten => 2462468,1,NoOp
>>exten => 2462468,2,Congestion
>>exten => 2462468,3,Hangup
>>
>>
>>exten => h,1,SetCIDNum(${CALLERIDNUM:1})
>>;the ':1' above strips the first digit (0)
>>exten => h,2,System(echo channel: SIP/VOIPCHEAP/0044${CALLERIDNUM} >
>>/tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
>>;the '0044' above adds prefix
>>exten => h,3,System(echo context: custom-callout >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
>>exten => h,4,System(echo extension: ${CALLERIDNUM} >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
>>exten => h,5,System(echo priority: 1 >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM})
>>exten => h,6,System(echo callerid: >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}) ; Your CallerID
>>for your TelaSIP account goes here (just use this line as-is. Graham)
>>exten => h,7,System(echo sleep 10 > /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
>>exten => h,8,System(echo cp /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM} /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing
>> >> /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)

>>exten => h,9,System(chmod 775 /tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
>>exten => h,10,System(/tmp/${CALLERIDNUM}.2)
>>exten => h,11,Hangup()
>>
>>[custom-callout]
>>exten => s,1,Background(silence/1)
>>;exten => s,3,Background(asterisk-friend) ; announcment too anoying,
>>commented out.
>>exten => s,2,Authenticate(1234)
>>exten => s,3,DISA(no-password|from-internal)
>>

>
>Just working this up using voip.co.uk, they do not require international
>format. & to make things interesting, I would like this to include
>access from a Spanish 0034 number.
>I think I have it cracked, I will test using the UK setup to check for
>typo's & then rework a little.
>
>Any comments ?
>
>

Got the Uk part right just cannot get past dtmf problems.
what is your dtmfmode for sipgate ?

might have to leave this for a couple of weeks !
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Old 08-10-2006, 12:37 AM
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>>
>>

> Got the Uk part right just cannot get past dtmf problems.
> what is your dtmfmode for sipgate ?
>
> might have to leave this for a couple of weeks !



I only used used Sipgate to trigger the callback.
I used two VoipCheap trunks for the actual calls
(they need international format)

I found it only worked with inband signalling and
a codec that can carry it ie ULaw or ALaw

Oh yes, one problem I have yet to solve, if both parties are PSTN then the
call doesn't clear-down!
If one or both parties are GSM or VoIP then no problem.

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Old 08-10-2006, 12:42 AM
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"news1001" <mike@starfire.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fkgXpiAN7k2EFAKv@starfire.demon.co.uk

[snip]

> Got the Uk part right just cannot get past dtmf problems.
> what is your dtmfmode for sipgate ?


DTMF mode for Sipgate should be "INFO"

Works on my SPA-2000 anyway.

Ivor



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