Returning to VOIP after a long time, so this newbie would appreciate
some help please.
I have the phone line from the street hooked up to the "Line" socket
on my SPA3102. Got the house phones hooked up to the "Phone" socket.
Got my router connected to the "Internet" socket and my PC connected
to the "Ethernet" socket. Everthing works fine. I have the QOS option
enabled TBF. If I pick up the handset on the house phone I can dial
out perfectly on VOIP. If somebodty calls me on either VOIP or
Landline, my phones ring and I can answer them perfectly.
What I need help on, is the dial plan. At the moment I can only dial
out on VOIP
Here are the two things I would like to achieve
1. The adapter instead of defaulting to dial out on VOIP, defaults to
dialling out on Landline instead.
2. Press the # key to be able to dial out on VOIP
Op 31-8-2010 16:57, Anti-Spam schreef:
> Returning to VOIP after a long time, so this newbie would appreciate
> some help please.
>
> I have the phone line from the street hooked up to the "Line" socket
> on my SPA3102. Got the house phones hooked up to the "Phone" socket.
> Got my router connected to the "Internet" socket and my PC connected
> to the "Ethernet" socket. Everthing works fine. I have the QOS option
> enabled TBF. If I pick up the handset on the house phone I can dial
> out perfectly on VOIP. If somebodty calls me on either VOIP or
> Landline, my phones ring and I can answer them perfectly.
>
> What I need help on, is the dial plan. At the moment I can only dial
> out on VOIP
>
> Here are the two things I would like to achieve
> 1. The adapter instead of defaulting to dial out on VOIP, defaults to
> dialling out on Landline instead.
> 2. Press the # key to be able to dial out on VOIP
>
> My current dial-plan looks like this
>
> (*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.|<#,:>xx.<
> :@gw0>)
>
> Could somebody please help me with this one, thanks.
> TIA
> Mark in Spain.
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:13:22 +0200, TheFug <tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>Op 31-8-2010 16:57, Anti-Spam schreef:
>> Returning to VOIP after a long time, so this newbie would appreciate
>> some help please.
>>
>> I have the phone line from the street hooked up to the "Line" socket
>> on my SPA3102. Got the house phones hooked up to the "Phone" socket.
>> Got my router connected to the "Internet" socket and my PC connected
>> to the "Ethernet" socket. Everthing works fine. I have the QOS option
>> enabled TBF. If I pick up the handset on the house phone I can dial
>> out perfectly on VOIP. If somebodty calls me on either VOIP or
>> Landline, my phones ring and I can answer them perfectly.
>>
>> What I need help on, is the dial plan. At the moment I can only dial
>> out on VOIP
>>
>> Here are the two things I would like to achieve
>> 1. The adapter instead of defaulting to dial out on VOIP, defaults to
>> dialling out on Landline instead.
>> 2. Press the # key to be able to dial out on VOIP
>>
>> My current dial-plan looks like this
>>
>> (*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.|<#,:>xx.<
>> :@gw0>)
>>
>> Could somebody please help me with this one, thanks.
>> TIA
>> Mark in Spain.
>
>http://www.jmgtechnology.com.au/spa_3102_guide.pdf
>
>or ..Google is your friend......
Thanks for the guide
Tried from that guide, adding this to my call plan,
<#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
thinking this would give me a outside line, but could not work out
what the gateway was for the landline?
(gw0?)
Anti-Spam brought next idea :
> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:13:22 +0200, TheFug <tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>
>> Op 31-8-2010 16:57, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>> Returning to VOIP after a long time, so this newbie would appreciate
>>> some help please.
>>>
>>> I have the phone line from the street hooked up to the "Line" socket
>>> on my SPA3102. Got the house phones hooked up to the "Phone" socket.
>>> Got my router connected to the "Internet" socket and my PC connected
>>> to the "Ethernet" socket. Everthing works fine. I have the QOS option
>>> enabled TBF. If I pick up the handset on the house phone I can dial
>>> out perfectly on VOIP. If somebodty calls me on either VOIP or
>>> Landline, my phones ring and I can answer them perfectly.
>>>
>>> What I need help on, is the dial plan. At the moment I can only dial
>>> out on VOIP
>>>
>>> Here are the two things I would like to achieve
>>> 1. The adapter instead of defaulting to dial out on VOIP, defaults to
>>> dialling out on Landline instead.
>>> 2. Press the # key to be able to dial out on VOIP
>>>
>>> My current dial-plan looks like this
>>>
>>> (*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.|<#,:>xx.<
>>> :@gw0>)
>>>
>>> Could somebody please help me with this one, thanks.
>>> TIA
>>> Mark in Spain.
>>
>> http://www.jmgtechnology.com.au/spa_3102_guide.pdf
>>
>> or ..Google is your friend......
>
> Thanks for the guide
>
> Tried from that guide, adding this to my call plan,
>
> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>
> thinking this would give me a outside line, but could not work out
> what the gateway was for the landline?
> (gw0?)
>
> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:59:52 +0100, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
wrote:
>Anti-Spam brought next idea :
>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:13:22 +0200, TheFug <tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Op 31-8-2010 16:57, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>>> Returning to VOIP after a long time, so this newbie would appreciate
>>>> some help please.
>>>>
>>>> I have the phone line from the street hooked up to the "Line" socket
>>>> on my SPA3102. Got the house phones hooked up to the "Phone" socket.
>>>> Got my router connected to the "Internet" socket and my PC connected
>>>> to the "Ethernet" socket. Everthing works fine. I have the QOS option
>>>> enabled TBF. If I pick up the handset on the house phone I can dial
>>>> out perfectly on VOIP. If somebodty calls me on either VOIP or
>>>> Landline, my phones ring and I can answer them perfectly.
>>>>
>>>> What I need help on, is the dial plan. At the moment I can only dial
>>>> out on VOIP
>>>>
>>>> Here are the two things I would like to achieve
>>>> 1. The adapter instead of defaulting to dial out on VOIP, defaults to
>>>> dialling out on Landline instead.
>>>> 2. Press the # key to be able to dial out on VOIP
>>>>
>>>> My current dial-plan looks like this
>>>>
>>>> (*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.|<#,:>xx.<
>>>> :@gw0>)
>>>>
>>>> Could somebody please help me with this one, thanks.
>>>> TIA
>>>> Mark in Spain.
>>>
>>> http://www.jmgtechnology.com.au/spa_3102_guide.pdf
>>>
>>> or ..Google is your friend......
>>
>> Thanks for the guide
>>
>> Tried from that guide, adding this to my call plan,
>>
>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>
>> thinking this would give me a outside line, but could not work out
>> what the gateway was for the landline?
>> (gw0?)
>>
>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>
>Here's my dial plan. And, yes, gw0 is the PSTN.
>
>([2356789]xxxxxS0|0[1-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|20xS0|<192S0:08001183733>|[999<:@gw0>|xx.|*xx.|<**,:>xx.|<#,:>xx.<:@gw0>)
Thanks Jono, you have helped me before.
Which bit of that dial plan is the default to Landline?
Although its a bit irelevant now, because of the following.
My landline provider (Telefonica) gives me free calls to national
phone numbers, so I do not need to use VOIP for those numbers. I later
worked out that I can program the telephone directory in my handset
with the # prefix on those national numbers, so now I do not mind if
the VOIP adapter defaults to VOIP dial out.
One other small problem has raised it head. Sometimes after dialling
out, the VOIP adapter does not see that I have put the handset on
hook. Any suggestions?
Is there a on line guide anywhere that explains all the programming
terms used in Call Plans?
Are call plans "universal" to all makes/models of VOIP adapters?
>
Regards Mark in Spain.
Op 1-9-2010 9:26, Anti-Spam schreef:
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:59:52 +0100, Jono<nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Anti-Spam brought next idea :
>>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:13:22 +0200, TheFug<tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Op 31-8-2010 16:57, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>>>> Returning to VOIP after a long time, so this newbie would appreciate
>>>>> some help please.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the phone line from the street hooked up to the "Line" socket
>>>>> on my SPA3102. Got the house phones hooked up to the "Phone" socket.
>>>>> Got my router connected to the "Internet" socket and my PC connected
>>>>> to the "Ethernet" socket. Everthing works fine. I have the QOS option
>>>>> enabled TBF. If I pick up the handset on the house phone I can dial
>>>>> out perfectly on VOIP. If somebodty calls me on either VOIP or
>>>>> Landline, my phones ring and I can answer them perfectly.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I need help on, is the dial plan. At the moment I can only dial
>>>>> out on VOIP
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the two things I would like to achieve
>>>>> 1. The adapter instead of defaulting to dial out on VOIP, defaults to
>>>>> dialling out on Landline instead.
>>>>> 2. Press the # key to be able to dial out on VOIP
>>>>>
>>>>> My current dial-plan looks like this
>>>>>
>>>>> (*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.|<#,:>xx.<
>>>>> :@gw0>)
>>>>>
>>>>> Could somebody please help me with this one, thanks.
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Mark in Spain.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.jmgtechnology.com.au/spa_3102_guide.pdf
>>>>
>>>> or ..Google is your friend......
>>>
>>> Thanks for the guide
>>>
>>> Tried from that guide, adding this to my call plan,
>>>
>>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>>
>>> thinking this would give me a outside line, but could not work out
>>> what the gateway was for the landline?
>>> (gw0?)
>>>
>>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>
>> Here's my dial plan. And, yes, gw0 is the PSTN.
>>
>> ([2356789]xxxxxS0|0[1-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|20xS0|<192S0:08001183733>|[999<:@gw0>|xx.|*xx.|<**,:>xx.|<#,:>xx.<:@gw0>)
>
> Thanks Jono, you have helped me before.
>
> Which bit of that dial plan is the default to Landline?
>
> Although its a bit irelevant now, because of the following.
> My landline provider (Telefonica) gives me free calls to national
> phone numbers, so I do not need to use VOIP for those numbers. I later
> worked out that I can program the telephone directory in my handset
> with the # prefix on those national numbers, so now I do not mind if
> the VOIP adapter defaults to VOIP dial out.
>
> One other small problem has raised it head. Sometimes after dialling
> out, the VOIP adapter does not see that I have put the handset on
> hook. Any suggestions?
>
> Is there a on line guide anywhere that explains all the programming
> terms used in Call Plans?
>
> Are call plans "universal" to all makes/models of VOIP adapters?
>>
> Regards Mark in Spain.
There's a Linksys forum, Google should bring you there easily.
Op 1-9-2010 9:26, Anti-Spam schreef:
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:59:52 +0100, Jono<nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Anti-Spam brought next idea :
>>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:13:22 +0200, TheFug<tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Op 31-8-2010 16:57, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>>>> Returning to VOIP after a long time, so this newbie would appreciate
>>>>> some help please.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the phone line from the street hooked up to the "Line" socket
>>>>> on my SPA3102. Got the house phones hooked up to the "Phone" socket.
>>>>> Got my router connected to the "Internet" socket and my PC connected
>>>>> to the "Ethernet" socket. Everthing works fine. I have the QOS option
>>>>> enabled TBF. If I pick up the handset on the house phone I can dial
>>>>> out perfectly on VOIP. If somebodty calls me on either VOIP or
>>>>> Landline, my phones ring and I can answer them perfectly.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I need help on, is the dial plan. At the moment I can only dial
>>>>> out on VOIP
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the two things I would like to achieve
>>>>> 1. The adapter instead of defaulting to dial out on VOIP, defaults to
>>>>> dialling out on Landline instead.
>>>>> 2. Press the # key to be able to dial out on VOIP
>>>>>
>>>>> My current dial-plan looks like this
>>>>>
>>>>> (*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.|<#,:>xx.<
>>>>> :@gw0>)
>>>>>
>>>>> Could somebody please help me with this one, thanks.
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Mark in Spain.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.jmgtechnology.com.au/spa_3102_guide.pdf
>>>>
>>>> or ..Google is your friend......
>>>
>>> Thanks for the guide
>>>
>>> Tried from that guide, adding this to my call plan,
>>>
>>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>>
>>> thinking this would give me a outside line, but could not work out
>>> what the gateway was for the landline?
>>> (gw0?)
>>>
>>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>
>> Here's my dial plan. And, yes, gw0 is the PSTN.
>>
>> ([2356789]xxxxxS0|0[1-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|20xS0|<192S0:08001183733>|[999<:@gw0>|xx.|*xx.|<**,:>xx.|<#,:>xx.<:@gw0>)
>
> Thanks Jono, you have helped me before.
>
> Which bit of that dial plan is the default to Landline?
>
> Although its a bit irelevant now, because of the following.
> My landline provider (Telefonica) gives me free calls to national
> phone numbers, so I do not need to use VOIP for those numbers. I later
> worked out that I can program the telephone directory in my handset
> with the # prefix on those national numbers, so now I do not mind if
> the VOIP adapter defaults to VOIP dial out.
>
> One other small problem has raised it head. Sometimes after dialling
> out, the VOIP adapter does not see that I have put the handset on
> hook. Any suggestions?
>
> Is there a on line guide anywhere that explains all the programming
> terms used in Call Plans?
>
> Are call plans "universal" to all makes/models of VOIP adapters?
>>
> Regards Mark in Spain.
*found this with a Google....*
Configure a Dial Plan
The dial plan determines which outbound calls route over which network -
normal BT line or the internet. I'm going to give you a call plan which
routes operator, faults, emergency and freephone numbers over the BT
line, routes local, national, mobile and international calls over the
internet, and bans directory enquiries and premium rate numbers.
Go to the SPA3102 configuration page and select Admin login - Advanced -
Voice - Line 1.
Under Dial Plan, change this to:
Dial Plan: (100<:@gw0> | 999<:@gw0> | 112<:@gw0> | 151<:@gw0> |
1471<:@gw0> | 0[58]0x.<:@gw0> | 00x.<:@gw1> | <0:0044>[12]x.<:@gw1> |
<0:0044>[67]x.<:@gw1> | 084x.<:@gw0> | <087:004487>x.<:@gw1> |
<:00441242>[2-8]x.<:@gw1> | 118! | 09!)
(all on one line)
You need to adjust this dial plan for your local numbers. Change the bit
at the end, that says 00441242, to match your local home dialling code.
I live in the Cheltenham area, so my local code is 01242 and the
international version is 00441242. If you live in Birmingham, your local
code is 0121 and you'd change it to 0044121 . If you live in London,
your local code is 020 and you'd change it to 004420 . Make sure you
don't change the chevrons or colon around it.
Here's an alternative plan if you just want to route mobile,
international numbers and non-geographic over the internet, and continue
to have local and national landline numbers routed over BT. Basically
the only difference is that we use gw0 instead of gw1 for 01, 02 etc.
numbers.
Dial Plan: (100<:@gw0> | 999<:@gw0> | 112<:@gw0> | 151<:@gw0> |
1471<:@gw0> | 0[58]0x.<:@gw0> | 00x.<:@gw1> | <0:0044>[12]x.<:@gw0> |
<0:0044>[67]x.<:@gw1> | 084x.<:@gw0> | <087:004487>x.<:@gw1> |
<:00441242>[2-8]x.<:@gw1> | 118! | 09!)
(all on one line)
You can read more about customising your own call plan, for instance to
route different numbers via different providers, by looking in the "SPA
ATA Admin Guide" which can be obtained from the Linksys website, or
directly from this Linksys FAQ page. They are similar to, but not the
same as, POSIX regular expressions. There's also a lot of discussion on
the Voxilla.com forums.
Make lots of short, inexpensive test calls and check on your web-based
VOIP account that they are going over the internet. If you have BT
paperless billing, you can also check on BT.com that you aren't being
charged for calls on BT.
No, really, check that your calls are being routed correctly before
making lots of lengthy international calls! It only takes a typo to
change gw1 to gw0 and your calls will run up an expensive BT bill.
If you do not already have Call Waiting with BT, then one way to check
call routing is: Call a number that should route over the internet.
Leave this call going. Then, at the same time, use your mobile to call
your landline number. If it is engaged (busy), then you've done
something wrong - it's calling via BT! If it rings, then it is working -
and on the normal handsets you will hear a quiet "Call Waiting" beep in
the background. Yup, the SPA3102 generates its own Call Waiting system!
On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:21:29 +0200, TheFug <tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>Op 1-9-2010 9:26, Anti-Spam schreef:
>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:59:52 +0100, Jono<nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anti-Spam brought next idea :
>>>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:13:22 +0200, TheFug<tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Op 31-8-2010 16:57, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>>>>> Returning to VOIP after a long time, so this newbie would appreciate
>>>>>> some help please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have the phone line from the street hooked up to the "Line" socket
>>>>>> on my SPA3102. Got the house phones hooked up to the "Phone" socket.
>>>>>> Got my router connected to the "Internet" socket and my PC connected
>>>>>> to the "Ethernet" socket. Everthing works fine. I have the QOS option
>>>>>> enabled TBF. If I pick up the handset on the house phone I can dial
>>>>>> out perfectly on VOIP. If somebodty calls me on either VOIP or
>>>>>> Landline, my phones ring and I can answer them perfectly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I need help on, is the dial plan. At the moment I can only dial
>>>>>> out on VOIP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are the two things I would like to achieve
>>>>>> 1. The adapter instead of defaulting to dial out on VOIP, defaults to
>>>>>> dialling out on Landline instead.
>>>>>> 2. Press the # key to be able to dial out on VOIP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My current dial-plan looks like this
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.|<#,:>xx.<
>>>>>> :@gw0>)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could somebody please help me with this one, thanks.
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>> Mark in Spain.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.jmgtechnology.com.au/spa_3102_guide.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> or ..Google is your friend......
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the guide
>>>>
>>>> Tried from that guide, adding this to my call plan,
>>>>
>>>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>>>
>>>> thinking this would give me a outside line, but could not work out
>>>> what the gateway was for the landline?
>>>> (gw0?)
>>>>
>>>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>>
>>> Here's my dial plan. And, yes, gw0 is the PSTN.
>>>
>>> ([2356789]xxxxxS0|0[1-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|20xS0|<192S0:08001183733>|[999<:@gw0>|xx.|*xx.|<**,:>xx.|<#,:>xx.<:@gw0>)
>>
>> Thanks Jono, you have helped me before.
>>
>> Which bit of that dial plan is the default to Landline?
>>
>> Although its a bit irelevant now, because of the following.
>> My landline provider (Telefonica) gives me free calls to national
>> phone numbers, so I do not need to use VOIP for those numbers. I later
>> worked out that I can program the telephone directory in my handset
>> with the # prefix on those national numbers, so now I do not mind if
>> the VOIP adapter defaults to VOIP dial out.
>>
>> One other small problem has raised it head. Sometimes after dialling
>> out, the VOIP adapter does not see that I have put the handset on
>> hook. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Is there a on line guide anywhere that explains all the programming
>> terms used in Call Plans?
>>
>> Are call plans "universal" to all makes/models of VOIP adapters?
>>>
>> Regards Mark in Spain.
>
> *found this with a Google....*
>
>
>Configure a Dial Plan
>
>The dial plan determines which outbound calls route over which network -
>normal BT line or the internet. I'm going to give you a call plan which
>routes operator, faults, emergency and freephone numbers over the BT
>line, routes local, national, mobile and international calls over the
>internet, and bans directory enquiries and premium rate numbers.
>
>Go to the SPA3102 configuration page and select Admin login - Advanced -
>Voice - Line 1.
>Under Dial Plan, change this to:
>Dial Plan: (100<:@gw0> | 999<:@gw0> | 112<:@gw0> | 151<:@gw0> |
>1471<:@gw0> | 0[58]0x.<:@gw0> | 00x.<:@gw1> | <0:0044>[12]x.<:@gw1> |
><0:0044>[67]x.<:@gw1> | 084x.<:@gw0> | <087:004487>x.<:@gw1> |
><:00441242>[2-8]x.<:@gw1> | 118! | 09!)
>(all on one line)
>
>You need to adjust this dial plan for your local numbers. Change the bit
>at the end, that says 00441242, to match your local home dialling code.
>I live in the Cheltenham area, so my local code is 01242 and the
>international version is 00441242. If you live in Birmingham, your local
>code is 0121 and you'd change it to 0044121 . If you live in London,
>your local code is 020 and you'd change it to 004420 . Make sure you
>don't change the chevrons or colon around it.
>Here's an alternative plan if you just want to route mobile,
>international numbers and non-geographic over the internet, and continue
>to have local and national landline numbers routed over BT. Basically
>the only difference is that we use gw0 instead of gw1 for 01, 02 etc.
>numbers.
>Dial Plan: (100<:@gw0> | 999<:@gw0> | 112<:@gw0> | 151<:@gw0> |
>1471<:@gw0> | 0[58]0x.<:@gw0> | 00x.<:@gw1> | <0:0044>[12]x.<:@gw0> |
><0:0044>[67]x.<:@gw1> | 084x.<:@gw0> | <087:004487>x.<:@gw1> |
><:00441242>[2-8]x.<:@gw1> | 118! | 09!)
>(all on one line)
>
>You can read more about customising your own call plan, for instance to
>route different numbers via different providers, by looking in the "SPA
>ATA Admin Guide" which can be obtained from the Linksys website, or
>directly from this Linksys FAQ page. They are similar to, but not the
>same as, POSIX regular expressions. There's also a lot of discussion on
>the Voxilla.com forums.
>
>Make lots of short, inexpensive test calls and check on your web-based
>VOIP account that they are going over the internet. If you have BT
>paperless billing, you can also check on BT.com that you aren't being
>charged for calls on BT.
>No, really, check that your calls are being routed correctly before
>making lots of lengthy international calls! It only takes a typo to
>change gw1 to gw0 and your calls will run up an expensive BT bill.
>If you do not already have Call Waiting with BT, then one way to check
>call routing is: Call a number that should route over the internet.
>Leave this call going. Then, at the same time, use your mobile to call
>your landline number. If it is engaged (busy), then you've done
>something wrong - it's calling via BT! If it rings, then it is working -
>and on the normal handsets you will hear a quiet "Call Waiting" beep in
>the background. Yup, the SPA3102 generates its own Call Waiting system!
Thanks for your time and effort. I am getting more involved in VOIP,
so will start to learn call plans, not easy at my age.
Regards
Mark Scotford
Op 2-9-2010 17:02, Anti-Spam schreef:
> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:21:29 +0200, TheFug<tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>
>> Op 1-9-2010 9:26, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:59:52 +0100, Jono<nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anti-Spam brought next idea :
>>>>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:13:22 +0200, TheFug<tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Op 31-8-2010 16:57, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>>>>>> Returning to VOIP after a long time, so this newbie would appreciate
>>>>>>> some help please.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have the phone line from the street hooked up to the "Line" socket
>>>>>>> on my SPA3102. Got the house phones hooked up to the "Phone" socket.
>>>>>>> Got my router connected to the "Internet" socket and my PC connected
>>>>>>> to the "Ethernet" socket. Everthing works fine. I have the QOS option
>>>>>>> enabled TBF. If I pick up the handset on the house phone I can dial
>>>>>>> out perfectly on VOIP. If somebodty calls me on either VOIP or
>>>>>>> Landline, my phones ring and I can answer them perfectly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What I need help on, is the dial plan. At the moment I can only dial
>>>>>>> out on VOIP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here are the two things I would like to achieve
>>>>>>> 1. The adapter instead of defaulting to dial out on VOIP, defaults to
>>>>>>> dialling out on Landline instead.
>>>>>>> 2. Press the # key to be able to dial out on VOIP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My current dial-plan looks like this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.|<#,:>xx.<
>>>>>>> :@gw0>)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could somebody please help me with this one, thanks.
>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>> Mark in Spain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.jmgtechnology.com.au/spa_3102_guide.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or ..Google is your friend......
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the guide
>>>>>
>>>>> Tried from that guide, adding this to my call plan,
>>>>>
>>>>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>>>>
>>>>> thinking this would give me a outside line, but could not work out
>>>>> what the gateway was for the landline?
>>>>> (gw0?)
>>>>>
>>>>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>>>
>>>> Here's my dial plan. And, yes, gw0 is the PSTN.
>>>>
>>>> ([2356789]xxxxxS0|0[1-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|20xS0|<192S0:08001183733>|[999<:@gw0>|xx.|*xx.|<**,:>xx.|<#,:>xx.<:@gw0>)
>>>
>>> Thanks Jono, you have helped me before.
>>>
>>> Which bit of that dial plan is the default to Landline?
>>>
>>> Although its a bit irelevant now, because of the following.
>>> My landline provider (Telefonica) gives me free calls to national
>>> phone numbers, so I do not need to use VOIP for those numbers. I later
>>> worked out that I can program the telephone directory in my handset
>>> with the # prefix on those national numbers, so now I do not mind if
>>> the VOIP adapter defaults to VOIP dial out.
>>>
>>> One other small problem has raised it head. Sometimes after dialling
>>> out, the VOIP adapter does not see that I have put the handset on
>>> hook. Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Is there a on line guide anywhere that explains all the programming
>>> terms used in Call Plans?
>>>
>>> Are call plans "universal" to all makes/models of VOIP adapters?
>>>>
>>> Regards Mark in Spain.
>>
>> *found this with a Google....*
>>
>>
>> Configure a Dial Plan
>>
>> The dial plan determines which outbound calls route over which network -
>> normal BT line or the internet. I'm going to give you a call plan which
>> routes operator, faults, emergency and freephone numbers over the BT
>> line, routes local, national, mobile and international calls over the
>> internet, and bans directory enquiries and premium rate numbers.
>>
>> Go to the SPA3102 configuration page and select Admin login - Advanced -
>> Voice - Line 1.
>> Under Dial Plan, change this to:
>> Dial Plan: (100<:@gw0> | 999<:@gw0> | 112<:@gw0> | 151<:@gw0> |
>> 1471<:@gw0> | 0[58]0x.<:@gw0> | 00x.<:@gw1> |<0:0044>[12]x.<:@gw1> |
>> <0:0044>[67]x.<:@gw1> | 084x.<:@gw0> |<087:004487>x.<:@gw1> |
>> <:00441242>[2-8]x.<:@gw1> | 118! | 09!)
>> (all on one line)
>>
>> You need to adjust this dial plan for your local numbers. Change the bit
>> at the end, that says 00441242, to match your local home dialling code.
>> I live in the Cheltenham area, so my local code is 01242 and the
>> international version is 00441242. If you live in Birmingham, your local
>> code is 0121 and you'd change it to 0044121 . If you live in London,
>> your local code is 020 and you'd change it to 004420 . Make sure you
>> don't change the chevrons or colon around it.
>> Here's an alternative plan if you just want to route mobile,
>> international numbers and non-geographic over the internet, and continue
>> to have local and national landline numbers routed over BT. Basically
>> the only difference is that we use gw0 instead of gw1 for 01, 02 etc.
>> numbers.
>> Dial Plan: (100<:@gw0> | 999<:@gw0> | 112<:@gw0> | 151<:@gw0> |
>> 1471<:@gw0> | 0[58]0x.<:@gw0> | 00x.<:@gw1> |<0:0044>[12]x.<:@gw0> |
>> <0:0044>[67]x.<:@gw1> | 084x.<:@gw0> |<087:004487>x.<:@gw1> |
>> <:00441242>[2-8]x.<:@gw1> | 118! | 09!)
>> (all on one line)
>>
>> You can read more about customising your own call plan, for instance to
>> route different numbers via different providers, by looking in the "SPA
>> ATA Admin Guide" which can be obtained from the Linksys website, or
>> directly from this Linksys FAQ page. They are similar to, but not the
>> same as, POSIX regular expressions. There's also a lot of discussion on
>> the Voxilla.com forums.
>>
>> Make lots of short, inexpensive test calls and check on your web-based
>> VOIP account that they are going over the internet. If you have BT
>> paperless billing, you can also check on BT.com that you aren't being
>> charged for calls on BT.
>> No, really, check that your calls are being routed correctly before
>> making lots of lengthy international calls! It only takes a typo to
>> change gw1 to gw0 and your calls will run up an expensive BT bill.
>> If you do not already have Call Waiting with BT, then one way to check
>> call routing is: Call a number that should route over the internet.
>> Leave this call going. Then, at the same time, use your mobile to call
>> your landline number. If it is engaged (busy), then you've done
>> something wrong - it's calling via BT! If it rings, then it is working -
>> and on the normal handsets you will hear a quiet "Call Waiting" beep in
>> the background. Yup, the SPA3102 generates its own Call Waiting system!
>
> Thanks for your time and effort. I am getting more involved in VOIP,
> so will start to learn call plans, not easy at my age.
> Regards
> Mark Scotford
There are a few more, but you "hit" them soon enough with Google
searches....
Maybe an other advise, using an DECT IP device like those of Siemens
(Gigaset) make live much more easier, the SPA3102 has a lot of options,
but if you don't need them........
the SPA is also limited to one incoming account, while some DECT IP ones
have room for 6 different voip providers, and you have wireless handsets....
With a real IP phone you can also set sip-uri's for speed-dials,
this might come in handy if your contacts also have voip providers.
And you might also look into Sipbroker, With Sipbroker you can easily
call contact on other networks
"TheFug" <tttt@gggg.nl> wrote in message
news:4c8002ab$0$30708$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl...
> Op 2-9-2010 17:02, Anti-Spam schreef:
>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:21:29 +0200, TheFug<tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Op 1-9-2010 9:26, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:59:52 +0100, Jono<nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anti-Spam brought next idea :
>>>>>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:13:22 +0200, TheFug<tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Op 31-8-2010 16:57, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>>>>>>> Returning to VOIP after a long time, so this newbie would
>>>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>>>> some help please.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have the phone line from the street hooked up to the "Line"
>>>>>>>> socket
>>>>>>>> on my SPA3102. Got the house phones hooked up to the "Phone"
>>>>>>>> socket.
>>>>>>>> Got my router connected to the "Internet" socket and my PC
>>>>>>>> connected
>>>>>>>> to the "Ethernet" socket. Everthing works fine. I have the QOS
>>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>> enabled TBF. If I pick up the handset on the house phone I can dial
>>>>>>>> out perfectly on VOIP. If somebodty calls me on either VOIP or
>>>>>>>> Landline, my phones ring and I can answer them perfectly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I need help on, is the dial plan. At the moment I can only
>>>>>>>> dial
>>>>>>>> out on VOIP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here are the two things I would like to achieve
>>>>>>>> 1. The adapter instead of defaulting to dial out on VOIP, defaults
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> dialling out on Landline instead.
>>>>>>>> 2. Press the # key to be able to dial out on VOIP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My current dial-plan looks like this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.|<#,:>xx.<
>>>>>>>> :@gw0>)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could somebody please help me with this one, thanks.
>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>> Mark in Spain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.jmgtechnology.com.au/spa_3102_guide.pdf
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or ..Google is your friend......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for the guide
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tried from that guide, adding this to my call plan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thinking this would give me a outside line, but could not work out
>>>>>> what the gateway was for the landline?
>>>>>> (gw0?)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's my dial plan. And, yes, gw0 is the PSTN.
>>>>>
>>>>> ([2356789]xxxxxS0|0[1-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|20xS0|<192S0:08001183733>|[999<:@gw0>|xx.|*xx.|<**,:>xx.|<#,:>xx.<:@gw0>)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Jono, you have helped me before.
>>>>
>>>> Which bit of that dial plan is the default to Landline?
>>>>
>>>> Although its a bit irelevant now, because of the following.
>>>> My landline provider (Telefonica) gives me free calls to national
>>>> phone numbers, so I do not need to use VOIP for those numbers. I later
>>>> worked out that I can program the telephone directory in my handset
>>>> with the # prefix on those national numbers, so now I do not mind if
>>>> the VOIP adapter defaults to VOIP dial out.
>>>>
>>>> One other small problem has raised it head. Sometimes after dialling
>>>> out, the VOIP adapter does not see that I have put the handset on
>>>> hook. Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Is there a on line guide anywhere that explains all the programming
>>>> terms used in Call Plans?
>>>>
>>>> Are call plans "universal" to all makes/models of VOIP adapters?
>>>>>
>>>> Regards Mark in Spain.
>>>
>>> *found this with a Google....*
>>>
>>>
>>> Configure a Dial Plan
>>>
>>> The dial plan determines which outbound calls route over which network -
>>> normal BT line or the internet. I'm going to give you a call plan which
>>> routes operator, faults, emergency and freephone numbers over the BT
>>> line, routes local, national, mobile and international calls over the
>>> internet, and bans directory enquiries and premium rate numbers.
>>>
>>> Go to the SPA3102 configuration page and select Admin login - Advanced -
>>> Voice - Line 1.
>>> Under Dial Plan, change this to:
>>> Dial Plan: (100<:@gw0> | 999<:@gw0> | 112<:@gw0> | 151<:@gw0> |
>>> 1471<:@gw0> | 0[58]0x.<:@gw0> | 00x.<:@gw1> |<0:0044>[12]x.<:@gw1> |
>>> <0:0044>[67]x.<:@gw1> | 084x.<:@gw0> |<087:004487>x.<:@gw1> |
>>> <:00441242>[2-8]x.<:@gw1> | 118! | 09!)
>>> (all on one line)
>>>
>>> You need to adjust this dial plan for your local numbers. Change the bit
>>> at the end, that says 00441242, to match your local home dialling code.
>>> I live in the Cheltenham area, so my local code is 01242 and the
>>> international version is 00441242. If you live in Birmingham, your local
>>> code is 0121 and you'd change it to 0044121 . If you live in London,
>>> your local code is 020 and you'd change it to 004420 . Make sure you
>>> don't change the chevrons or colon around it.
>>> Here's an alternative plan if you just want to route mobile,
>>> international numbers and non-geographic over the internet, and continue
>>> to have local and national landline numbers routed over BT. Basically
>>> the only difference is that we use gw0 instead of gw1 for 01, 02 etc.
>>> numbers.
>>> Dial Plan: (100<:@gw0> | 999<:@gw0> | 112<:@gw0> | 151<:@gw0> |
>>> 1471<:@gw0> | 0[58]0x.<:@gw0> | 00x.<:@gw1> |<0:0044>[12]x.<:@gw0> |
>>> <0:0044>[67]x.<:@gw1> | 084x.<:@gw0> |<087:004487>x.<:@gw1> |
>>> <:00441242>[2-8]x.<:@gw1> | 118! | 09!)
>>> (all on one line)
>>>
>>> You can read more about customising your own call plan, for instance to
>>> route different numbers via different providers, by looking in the "SPA
>>> ATA Admin Guide" which can be obtained from the Linksys website, or
>>> directly from this Linksys FAQ page. They are similar to, but not the
>>> same as, POSIX regular expressions. There's also a lot of discussion on
>>> the Voxilla.com forums.
>>>
>>> Make lots of short, inexpensive test calls and check on your web-based
>>> VOIP account that they are going over the internet. If you have BT
>>> paperless billing, you can also check on BT.com that you aren't being
>>> charged for calls on BT.
>>> No, really, check that your calls are being routed correctly before
>>> making lots of lengthy international calls! It only takes a typo to
>>> change gw1 to gw0 and your calls will run up an expensive BT bill.
>>> If you do not already have Call Waiting with BT, then one way to check
>>> call routing is: Call a number that should route over the internet.
>>> Leave this call going. Then, at the same time, use your mobile to call
>>> your landline number. If it is engaged (busy), then you've done
>>> something wrong - it's calling via BT! If it rings, then it is working -
>>> and on the normal handsets you will hear a quiet "Call Waiting" beep in
>>> the background. Yup, the SPA3102 generates its own Call Waiting system!
>>
>> Thanks for your time and effort. I am getting more involved in VOIP,
>> so will start to learn call plans, not easy at my age.
>> Regards
>> Mark Scotford
>
> Try also sites like voxilla, voxalot
>
> http://forum.voxilla.com/cisco-links...support-forum/
>
> http://forum.voxalot.com/
>
> There are a few more, but you "hit" them soon enough with Google
> searches....
>
> Maybe an other advise, using an DECT IP device like those of Siemens
> (Gigaset) make live much more easier, the SPA3102 has a lot of options,
> but if you don't need them........
> the SPA is also limited to one incoming account, while some DECT IP ones
> have room for 6 different voip providers, and you have wireless
> handsets....
> With a real IP phone you can also set sip-uri's for speed-dials,
> this might come in handy if your contacts also have voip providers.
> And you might also look into Sipbroker, With Sipbroker you can easily call
> contact on other networks.
Another option is the fritzbox range. I gave up on my SPA3102 (my 3rd SPA
over the years) because of the echo which wouldnt go away no matter what
settings I tried. The friztbox can be used either as your main router or
just as an ATA (which is what I do). It works out the phone numbers - I just
dial normally and it adds the relevant local code and country code for voip
providers use and I dial *xxx# to force it to use a particular VOIP account
or *111# to force it to use the landline account. You cant do complex
dialplans like you can with the sipura but you can set it to use certain
accounts for certain number types e.g. all international numbers over a
certain account - all 0844 numbers over your landline etc. It also has a
builtin answerphone that can email you your messages.
I bought the 7170 and then upgraded the firmware to give me all the latest
functionality.
Anti-Spam <Anti@spam.com> wrote:
> Which bit of that dial plan is the default to Landline?
You need to split the dial plan out into its parts:
[2356789]xxxxxS0 Use default (VoIP gw1)
0[1-9]xxxxxxxxxS0 Use default (VoIP gw1)
20xS0 Use default (VoIP gw1)
<192S0:08001183733> 192 routes to 0800... on default (VoIP gw1)
[999<:@gw0> 999 routes to POTS (gw0)
xx. Any number uses default (VoIP gw1)
*xx. * number uses default (VoIP gw1)
<**,:>xx. ** is stripped & remaining number uses default
<#,:>xx.<:@gw0> # is stripped & remaining number uses POTS (gw0)
> Although its a bit irelevant now, because of the following.
> My landline provider (Telefonica) gives me free calls to national
> phone numbers, so I do not need to use VOIP for those numbers. I later
> worked out that I can program the telephone directory in my handset
> with the # prefix on those national numbers, so now I do not mind if
> the VOIP adapter defaults to VOIP dial out.
If you want your ATA to route calls automatically for you, you will need
to work out a way of differentiating national calls from others. In the UK
it's "0[123]xx." but I don't know how the Spanish numbering system works.
I've not tested it, but this may work (I can't remember how the
interaction between the first two rules happens):
0[123]xx.<:@gw0> Route national numbers via POTS (gw0)
xx. Everything else to VoIP (gw1)
<#:>xx.<:@gw0> # number forces POTS (gw0) but # is stripped
If you can't determine a rule to separate national numbers from others,
just remove the first rule from my example and go back to using # as
a routing prefix. (In my case, I use a mixture of both, but my routing
prefix indicator is "**0" through "**4"; a single * is reserved for
function codes.)
> Is there a on line guide anywhere that explains all the programming
> terms used in Call Plans?
Yes. I think I googled for mine a couple of years ago.
> Are call plans "universal" to all makes/models of VOIP adapters?
No. But Sipura = Linksys = CISCO, so there's fairly high market
penetration there.
Op 3-9-2010 10:07, Roger schreef:
>
>
> "TheFug" <tttt@gggg.nl> wrote in message
> news:4c8002ab$0$30708$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl...
>> Op 2-9-2010 17:02, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:21:29 +0200, TheFug<tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Op 1-9-2010 9:26, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>>>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:59:52 +0100, Jono<nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anti-Spam brought next idea :
>>>>>>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:13:22 +0200, TheFug<tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Op 31-8-2010 16:57, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>>>>>>>> Returning to VOIP after a long time, so this newbie would
>>>>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>>>>> some help please.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have the phone line from the street hooked up to the "Line"
>>>>>>>>> socket
>>>>>>>>> on my SPA3102. Got the house phones hooked up to the "Phone"
>>>>>>>>> socket.
>>>>>>>>> Got my router connected to the "Internet" socket and my PC
>>>>>>>>> connected
>>>>>>>>> to the "Ethernet" socket. Everthing works fine. I have the QOS
>>>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>>> enabled TBF. If I pick up the handset on the house phone I can
>>>>>>>>> dial
>>>>>>>>> out perfectly on VOIP. If somebodty calls me on either VOIP or
>>>>>>>>> Landline, my phones ring and I can answer them perfectly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What I need help on, is the dial plan. At the moment I can only
>>>>>>>>> dial
>>>>>>>>> out on VOIP
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here are the two things I would like to achieve
>>>>>>>>> 1. The adapter instead of defaulting to dial out on VOIP,
>>>>>>>>> defaults to
>>>>>>>>> dialling out on Landline instead.
>>>>>>>>> 2. Press the # key to be able to dial out on VOIP
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My current dial-plan looks like this
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.|<#,:>xx.<
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :@gw0>)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Could somebody please help me with this one, thanks.
>>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>>> Mark in Spain.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.jmgtechnology.com.au/spa_3102_guide.pdf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or ..Google is your friend......
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the guide
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tried from that guide, adding this to my call plan,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> thinking this would give me a outside line, but could not work out
>>>>>>> what the gateway was for the landline?
>>>>>>> (gw0?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's my dial plan. And, yes, gw0 is the PSTN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ([2356789]xxxxxS0|0[1-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|20xS0|<192S0:08001183733>|[999<:@gw0>|xx.|*xx.|<**,:>xx.|<#,:>xx.<:@gw0>)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Jono, you have helped me before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Which bit of that dial plan is the default to Landline?
>>>>>
>>>>> Although its a bit irelevant now, because of the following.
>>>>> My landline provider (Telefonica) gives me free calls to national
>>>>> phone numbers, so I do not need to use VOIP for those numbers. I later
>>>>> worked out that I can program the telephone directory in my handset
>>>>> with the # prefix on those national numbers, so now I do not mind if
>>>>> the VOIP adapter defaults to VOIP dial out.
>>>>>
>>>>> One other small problem has raised it head. Sometimes after dialling
>>>>> out, the VOIP adapter does not see that I have put the handset on
>>>>> hook. Any suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a on line guide anywhere that explains all the programming
>>>>> terms used in Call Plans?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are call plans "universal" to all makes/models of VOIP adapters?
>>>>>>
>>>>> Regards Mark in Spain.
>>>>
>>>> *found this with a Google....*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Configure a Dial Plan
>>>>
>>>> The dial plan determines which outbound calls route over which
>>>> network -
>>>> normal BT line or the internet. I'm going to give you a call plan which
>>>> routes operator, faults, emergency and freephone numbers over the BT
>>>> line, routes local, national, mobile and international calls over the
>>>> internet, and bans directory enquiries and premium rate numbers.
>>>>
>>>> Go to the SPA3102 configuration page and select Admin login -
>>>> Advanced -
>>>> Voice - Line 1.
>>>> Under Dial Plan, change this to:
>>>> Dial Plan: (100<:@gw0> | 999<:@gw0> | 112<:@gw0> | 151<:@gw0> |
>>>> 1471<:@gw0> | 0[58]0x.<:@gw0> | 00x.<:@gw1> |<0:0044>[12]x.<:@gw1> |
>>>> <0:0044>[67]x.<:@gw1> | 084x.<:@gw0> |<087:004487>x.<:@gw1> |
>>>> <:00441242>[2-8]x.<:@gw1> | 118! | 09!)
>>>> (all on one line)
>>>>
>>>> You need to adjust this dial plan for your local numbers. Change the
>>>> bit
>>>> at the end, that says 00441242, to match your local home dialling code.
>>>> I live in the Cheltenham area, so my local code is 01242 and the
>>>> international version is 00441242. If you live in Birmingham, your
>>>> local
>>>> code is 0121 and you'd change it to 0044121 . If you live in London,
>>>> your local code is 020 and you'd change it to 004420 . Make sure you
>>>> don't change the chevrons or colon around it.
>>>> Here's an alternative plan if you just want to route mobile,
>>>> international numbers and non-geographic over the internet, and
>>>> continue
>>>> to have local and national landline numbers routed over BT. Basically
>>>> the only difference is that we use gw0 instead of gw1 for 01, 02 etc.
>>>> numbers.
>>>> Dial Plan: (100<:@gw0> | 999<:@gw0> | 112<:@gw0> | 151<:@gw0> |
>>>> 1471<:@gw0> | 0[58]0x.<:@gw0> | 00x.<:@gw1> |<0:0044>[12]x.<:@gw0> |
>>>> <0:0044>[67]x.<:@gw1> | 084x.<:@gw0> |<087:004487>x.<:@gw1> |
>>>> <:00441242>[2-8]x.<:@gw1> | 118! | 09!)
>>>> (all on one line)
>>>>
>>>> You can read more about customising your own call plan, for instance to
>>>> route different numbers via different providers, by looking in the "SPA
>>>> ATA Admin Guide" which can be obtained from the Linksys website, or
>>>> directly from this Linksys FAQ page. They are similar to, but not the
>>>> same as, POSIX regular expressions. There's also a lot of discussion on
>>>> the Voxilla.com forums.
>>>>
>>>> Make lots of short, inexpensive test calls and check on your web-based
>>>> VOIP account that they are going over the internet. If you have BT
>>>> paperless billing, you can also check on BT.com that you aren't being
>>>> charged for calls on BT.
>>>> No, really, check that your calls are being routed correctly before
>>>> making lots of lengthy international calls! It only takes a typo to
>>>> change gw1 to gw0 and your calls will run up an expensive BT bill.
>>>> If you do not already have Call Waiting with BT, then one way to check
>>>> call routing is: Call a number that should route over the internet.
>>>> Leave this call going. Then, at the same time, use your mobile to call
>>>> your landline number. If it is engaged (busy), then you've done
>>>> something wrong - it's calling via BT! If it rings, then it is
>>>> working -
>>>> and on the normal handsets you will hear a quiet "Call Waiting" beep in
>>>> the background. Yup, the SPA3102 generates its own Call Waiting system!
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time and effort. I am getting more involved in VOIP,
>>> so will start to learn call plans, not easy at my age.
>>> Regards
>>> Mark Scotford
>>
>> Try also sites like voxilla, voxalot
>>
>> http://forum.voxilla.com/cisco-links...support-forum/
>>
>> http://forum.voxalot.com/
>>
>> There are a few more, but you "hit" them soon enough with Google
>> searches....
>>
>> Maybe an other advise, using an DECT IP device like those of Siemens
>> (Gigaset) make live much more easier, the SPA3102 has a lot of
>> options, but if you don't need them........
>> the SPA is also limited to one incoming account, while some DECT IP
>> ones have room for 6 different voip providers, and you have wireless
>> handsets....
>> With a real IP phone you can also set sip-uri's for speed-dials,
>> this might come in handy if your contacts also have voip providers.
>> And you might also look into Sipbroker, With Sipbroker you can easily
>> call contact on other networks.
> Another option is the fritzbox range. I gave up on my SPA3102 (my 3rd
> SPA over the years) because of the echo which wouldnt go away no matter
> what settings I tried. The friztbox can be used either as your main
> router or just as an ATA (which is what I do). It works out the phone
> numbers - I just dial normally and it adds the relevant local code and
> country code for voip providers use and I dial *xxx# to force it to use
> a particular VOIP account or *111# to force it to use the landline
> account. You cant do complex dialplans like you can with the sipura but
> you can set it to use certain accounts for certain number types e.g. all
> international numbers over a certain account - all 0844 numbers over
> your landline etc. It also has a builtin answerphone that can email you
> your messages.
>
> I bought the 7170 and then upgraded the firmware to give me all the
> latest functionality.
But i guess you have to use the modem function of the Fritz!
With me, i've found out the providers 'box' gives me the best up & down
load rates so i use it in bridge, with behind it a Sitecom WL309 gaming
router, which works reasonable for now.
on a LAN port i have a dect ip basestation (6 accounts) which also work
fine.
The fritz! is the the karton box again....
"TheFug" <tttt@gggg.nl> wrote in message
news:4c8211f1$0$30704$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl...
> Op 3-9-2010 10:07, Roger schreef:
>>
>>
>> "TheFug" <tttt@gggg.nl> wrote in message
>> news:4c8002ab$0$30708$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl...
>>> Op 2-9-2010 17:02, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:21:29 +0200, TheFug<tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Op 1-9-2010 9:26, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>>>>> On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 06:59:52 +0100, Jono<nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anti-Spam brought next idea :
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:13:22 +0200, TheFug<tttt@gggg.nl> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Op 31-8-2010 16:57, Anti-Spam schreef:
>>>>>>>>>> Returning to VOIP after a long time, so this newbie would
>>>>>>>>>> appreciate
>>>>>>>>>> some help please.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have the phone line from the street hooked up to the "Line"
>>>>>>>>>> socket
>>>>>>>>>> on my SPA3102. Got the house phones hooked up to the "Phone"
>>>>>>>>>> socket.
>>>>>>>>>> Got my router connected to the "Internet" socket and my PC
>>>>>>>>>> connected
>>>>>>>>>> to the "Ethernet" socket. Everthing works fine. I have the QOS
>>>>>>>>>> option
>>>>>>>>>> enabled TBF. If I pick up the handset on the house phone I can
>>>>>>>>>> dial
>>>>>>>>>> out perfectly on VOIP. If somebodty calls me on either VOIP or
>>>>>>>>>> Landline, my phones ring and I can answer them perfectly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What I need help on, is the dial plan. At the moment I can only
>>>>>>>>>> dial
>>>>>>>>>> out on VOIP
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here are the two things I would like to achieve
>>>>>>>>>> 1. The adapter instead of defaulting to dial out on VOIP,
>>>>>>>>>> defaults to
>>>>>>>>>> dialling out on Landline instead.
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Press the # key to be able to dial out on VOIP
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My current dial-plan looks like this
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (*xx|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.|<#,:>xx.<
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> :@gw0>)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Could somebody please help me with this one, thanks.
>>>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>>>> Mark in Spain.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.jmgtechnology.com.au/spa_3102_guide.pdf
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> or ..Google is your friend......
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the guide
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tried from that guide, adding this to my call plan,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> thinking this would give me a outside line, but could not work out
>>>>>>>> what the gateway was for the landline?
>>>>>>>> (gw0?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's my dial plan. And, yes, gw0 is the PSTN.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ([2356789]xxxxxS0|0[1-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|20xS0|<192S0:08001183733>|[999<:@gw0>|xx.|*xx.|<**,:>xx.|<#,:>xx.<:@gw0>)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Jono, you have helped me before.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which bit of that dial plan is the default to Landline?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Although its a bit irelevant now, because of the following.
>>>>>> My landline provider (Telefonica) gives me free calls to national
>>>>>> phone numbers, so I do not need to use VOIP for those numbers. I
>>>>>> later
>>>>>> worked out that I can program the telephone directory in my handset
>>>>>> with the # prefix on those national numbers, so now I do not mind if
>>>>>> the VOIP adapter defaults to VOIP dial out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One other small problem has raised it head. Sometimes after dialling
>>>>>> out, the VOIP adapter does not see that I have put the handset on
>>>>>> hook. Any suggestions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a on line guide anywhere that explains all the programming
>>>>>> terms used in Call Plans?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are call plans "universal" to all makes/models of VOIP adapters?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards Mark in Spain.
>>>>>
>>>>> *found this with a Google....*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Configure a Dial Plan
>>>>>
>>>>> The dial plan determines which outbound calls route over which
>>>>> network -
>>>>> normal BT line or the internet. I'm going to give you a call plan
>>>>> which
>>>>> routes operator, faults, emergency and freephone numbers over the BT
>>>>> line, routes local, national, mobile and international calls over the
>>>>> internet, and bans directory enquiries and premium rate numbers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Go to the SPA3102 configuration page and select Admin login -
>>>>> Advanced -
>>>>> Voice - Line 1.
>>>>> Under Dial Plan, change this to:
>>>>> Dial Plan: (100<:@gw0> | 999<:@gw0> | 112<:@gw0> | 151<:@gw0> |
>>>>> 1471<:@gw0> | 0[58]0x.<:@gw0> | 00x.<:@gw1> |<0:0044>[12]x.<:@gw1> |
>>>>> <0:0044>[67]x.<:@gw1> | 084x.<:@gw0> |<087:004487>x.<:@gw1> |
>>>>> <:00441242>[2-8]x.<:@gw1> | 118! | 09!)
>>>>> (all on one line)
>>>>>
>>>>> You need to adjust this dial plan for your local numbers. Change the
>>>>> bit
>>>>> at the end, that says 00441242, to match your local home dialling
>>>>> code.
>>>>> I live in the Cheltenham area, so my local code is 01242 and the
>>>>> international version is 00441242. If you live in Birmingham, your
>>>>> local
>>>>> code is 0121 and you'd change it to 0044121 . If you live in London,
>>>>> your local code is 020 and you'd change it to 004420 . Make sure you
>>>>> don't change the chevrons or colon around it.
>>>>> Here's an alternative plan if you just want to route mobile,
>>>>> international numbers and non-geographic over the internet, and
>>>>> continue
>>>>> to have local and national landline numbers routed over BT. Basically
>>>>> the only difference is that we use gw0 instead of gw1 for 01, 02 etc.
>>>>> numbers.
>>>>> Dial Plan: (100<:@gw0> | 999<:@gw0> | 112<:@gw0> | 151<:@gw0> |
>>>>> 1471<:@gw0> | 0[58]0x.<:@gw0> | 00x.<:@gw1> |<0:0044>[12]x.<:@gw0> |
>>>>> <0:0044>[67]x.<:@gw1> | 084x.<:@gw0> |<087:004487>x.<:@gw1> |
>>>>> <:00441242>[2-8]x.<:@gw1> | 118! | 09!)
>>>>> (all on one line)
>>>>>
>>>>> You can read more about customising your own call plan, for instance
>>>>> to
>>>>> route different numbers via different providers, by looking in the
>>>>> "SPA
>>>>> ATA Admin Guide" which can be obtained from the Linksys website, or
>>>>> directly from this Linksys FAQ page. They are similar to, but not the
>>>>> same as, POSIX regular expressions. There's also a lot of discussion
>>>>> on
>>>>> the Voxilla.com forums.
>>>>>
>>>>> Make lots of short, inexpensive test calls and check on your web-based
>>>>> VOIP account that they are going over the internet. If you have BT
>>>>> paperless billing, you can also check on BT.com that you aren't being
>>>>> charged for calls on BT.
>>>>> No, really, check that your calls are being routed correctly before
>>>>> making lots of lengthy international calls! It only takes a typo to
>>>>> change gw1 to gw0 and your calls will run up an expensive BT bill.
>>>>> If you do not already have Call Waiting with BT, then one way to check
>>>>> call routing is: Call a number that should route over the internet.
>>>>> Leave this call going. Then, at the same time, use your mobile to call
>>>>> your landline number. If it is engaged (busy), then you've done
>>>>> something wrong - it's calling via BT! If it rings, then it is
>>>>> working -
>>>>> and on the normal handsets you will hear a quiet "Call Waiting" beep
>>>>> in
>>>>> the background. Yup, the SPA3102 generates its own Call Waiting
>>>>> system!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time and effort. I am getting more involved in VOIP,
>>>> so will start to learn call plans, not easy at my age.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Mark Scotford
>>>
>>> Try also sites like voxilla, voxalot
>>>
>>> http://forum.voxilla.com/cisco-links...support-forum/
>>>
>>> http://forum.voxalot.com/
>>>
>>> There are a few more, but you "hit" them soon enough with Google
>>> searches....
>>>
>>> Maybe an other advise, using an DECT IP device like those of Siemens
>>> (Gigaset) make live much more easier, the SPA3102 has a lot of
>>> options, but if you don't need them........
>>> the SPA is also limited to one incoming account, while some DECT IP
>>> ones have room for 6 different voip providers, and you have wireless
>>> handsets....
>>> With a real IP phone you can also set sip-uri's for speed-dials,
>>> this might come in handy if your contacts also have voip providers.
>>> And you might also look into Sipbroker, With Sipbroker you can easily
>>> call contact on other networks.
>> Another option is the fritzbox range. I gave up on my SPA3102 (my 3rd
>> SPA over the years) because of the echo which wouldnt go away no matter
>> what settings I tried. The friztbox can be used either as your main
>> router or just as an ATA (which is what I do). It works out the phone
>> numbers - I just dial normally and it adds the relevant local code and
>> country code for voip providers use and I dial *xxx# to force it to use
>> a particular VOIP account or *111# to force it to use the landline
>> account. You cant do complex dialplans like you can with the sipura but
>> you can set it to use certain accounts for certain number types e.g. all
>> international numbers over a certain account - all 0844 numbers over
>> your landline etc. It also has a builtin answerphone that can email you
>> your messages.
>>
>> I bought the 7170 and then upgraded the firmware to give me all the
>> latest functionality.
>
> But i guess you have to use the modem function of the Fritz!
> With me, i've found out the providers 'box' gives me the best up & down
> load rates so i use it in bridge, with behind it a Sitecom WL309 gaming
> router, which works reasonable for now.
> on a LAN port i have a dect ip basestation (6 accounts) which also work
> fine.
> The fritz! is the the karton box again....
No - I've got mine plugged into my virgin cable router - theres an option to
set it up as just another box on your network rather than use it as the adsl
modem. While it doesnt have the full dial plan functionality of the spa3102
it actually does what I want to do (use multiple accounts and the landline
on one phone with no messing about when dialling numbers) much better than
the spa3102 did. And more importantly there's no echo.
On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 11:08:17 +0100, Chris Davies
<chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> wrote:
>>>([2356789]xxxxxS0|0[1-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|20xS0|<192S0:08001183733>|[999<:@gw0>|xx.|*xx.|<**,:>xx.|<#,:>xx.<:@gw0>)
>
>Anti-Spam <Anti@spam.com> wrote:
>> Which bit of that dial plan is the default to Landline?
>
>You need to split the dial plan out into its parts:
>
> [2356789]xxxxxS0 Use default (VoIP gw1)
> 0[1-9]xxxxxxxxxS0 Use default (VoIP gw1)
> 20xS0 Use default (VoIP gw1)
> <192S0:08001183733> 192 routes to 0800... on default (VoIP gw1)
> [999<:@gw0> 999 routes to POTS (gw0)
> xx. Any number uses default (VoIP gw1)
> *xx. * number uses default (VoIP gw1)
> <**,:>xx. ** is stripped & remaining number uses default
> <#,:>xx.<:@gw0> # is stripped & remaining number uses POTS (gw0)
>
>
>> Although its a bit irelevant now, because of the following.
>> My landline provider (Telefonica) gives me free calls to national
>> phone numbers, so I do not need to use VOIP for those numbers. I later
>> worked out that I can program the telephone directory in my handset
>> with the # prefix on those national numbers, so now I do not mind if
>> the VOIP adapter defaults to VOIP dial out.
>
>If you want your ATA to route calls automatically for you, you will need
>to work out a way of differentiating national calls from others. In the UK
>it's "0[123]xx." but I don't know how the Spanish numbering system works.
>
>I've not tested it, but this may work (I can't remember how the
>interaction between the first two rules happens):
>
> 0[123]xx.<:@gw0> Route national numbers via POTS (gw0)
> xx. Everything else to VoIP (gw1)
> <#:>xx.<:@gw0> # number forces POTS (gw0) but # is stripped
>
>If you can't determine a rule to separate national numbers from others,
>just remove the first rule from my example and go back to using # as
>a routing prefix. (In my case, I use a mixture of both, but my routing
>prefix indicator is "**0" through "**4"; a single * is reserved for
>function codes.)
>
>
>> Is there a on line guide anywhere that explains all the programming
>> terms used in Call Plans?
>
>Yes. I think I googled for mine a couple of years ago.
>
>
>> Are call plans "universal" to all makes/models of VOIP adapters?
>
>No. But Sipura = Linksys = CISCO, so there's fairly high market
>penetration there.
>
>Chris
OK got into my thick head now, theres no universal, default to PSTN
rule, it has to be decided in a call plan. With this new knowledge, I
have worked out what I need to achieve, can you help please.
Any number starting 00 needs to go out on the VOIP port
Any number starting other than 00, needs to go out on the PSTN port
Anti-Spam <Anti@spam.com> wrote:
> Any number starting 00 needs to go out on the VOIP port
> Any number starting other than 00, needs to go out on the PSTN port
Try this (note I've not checked how they interact, and I'd be curious
to hear your feedback):
00xx. 00... routes to default (VoIP gw1)
xx.<:@gw0> Anything else routes via POTS (gw0)
To complete the process, you take each line, join them with "|" and
stick brackets "("...")" around the result. This gives the Sipura
dialing plan:
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