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Old 07-14-2005, 11:09 AM
Ivor Jones
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Hi All,

I now have a speaking clock on a Sipgate number, if anyone wants to try
calling it..! The number is 1431320 (Sipgate) or 020 7043 1320 from the
PSTN.

This is a synthesised recording of the voice of Pat Simmons, who was the
voice of the GPO "TIM" speaking clock from 1963 to 1985.

Please let me know if you have any problems accessing the clock, it should
be on line most of the time but I may have to take it down from time to
time while I make adjustments to the system.

Ivor



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Old 07-14-2005, 11:25 AM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Hi All,
>
> I now have a speaking clock on a Sipgate number, if anyone wants to try
> calling it..! The number is 1431320 (Sipgate) or 020 7043 1320 from the
> PSTN.
>
> This is a synthesised recording of the voice of Pat Simmons, who was the
> voice of the GPO "TIM" speaking clock from 1963 to 1985.
>
> Please let me know if you have any problems accessing the clock, it should
> be on line most of the time but I may have to take it down from time to
> time while I make adjustments to the system.
>


Just tried at 11:15 via Sipgate Ivor, no speaking clock, just Pat Simmons,
with a masculine voice, on your answerphone :-)

Tried again 11:18 and 40 seconds, and got the speaking clock, checked it for
accuracy with my radio controlled clock, and spot on. Two further tests OK.

I hope you don't swamp Sipgate's lines, and cause them any problems ;-)




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Old 07-14-2005, 11:31 AM
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"GwG" <sorrythisdoesntwork@guess.uk.co> wrote in message
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>
> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:3jmrvrFpuof5U1@individual.net...
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I now have a speaking clock on a Sipgate number, if anyone wants to try
>> calling it..! The number is 1431320 (Sipgate) or 020 7043 1320 from the
>> PSTN.
>>
>> This is a synthesised recording of the voice of Pat Simmons, who was
>> the
>> voice of the GPO "TIM" speaking clock from 1963 to 1985.
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any problems accessing the clock, it
>> should
>> be on line most of the time but I may have to take it down from time to
>> time while I make adjustments to the system.
>>

>
> Just tried at 11:15 via Sipgate Ivor, no speaking clock, just Pat
> Simmons,
> with a masculine voice, on your answerphone :-)


That will cut in if the clock is offline for any reason. It may also come
in if someone else is using it, the line will only accept one caller at a
time. I think I'll take the voicemail off, better to get engaged tone I
think..!

> Tried again 11:18 and 40 seconds, and got the speaking clock, checked it
> for
> accuracy with my radio controlled clock, and spot on. Two further tests
> OK.


It's synchronised with MSF in Rugby so should be accurate, although with
VoIP there may sometimes be a short time lag, but not too much I hope..!

> I hope you don't swamp Sipgate's lines, and cause them any problems ;-)


I hope so too :-))

Ivor



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Old 07-14-2005, 03:08 PM
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<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:31:07 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>It's synchronised with MSF in Rugby so should be accurate, although with
>>VoIP there may sometimes be a short time lag, but not too much I hope..!


> Just checked it is working fine Ivor and agrees with our wall clock
> which is also synchronised with Rugby .
> Well done .


Someone said it cuts out after a short time, yes unfortunately it will do
so after 30 seconds, to alter that would require rewriting the firmware,
which is somewhat beyond me..! Not a major problem but if you want to set
a watch that needs the minute signal and you dial in at 10 seconds past
then you will get cut off before the full minute is up, but at least it's
free to redial on Sipgate..!

Also note that as it will only handle one call at a time, if you call it
while it is busy you'll get ringing tone until it's free, which shouldn't
be longer than 30 seconds.

Ivor




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Old 07-14-2005, 04:24 PM
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In message of Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Ivor Jones writes
>
>Hi All,
>
>I now have a speaking clock on a Sipgate number, if anyone wants to try
>calling it..! The number is 1431320 (Sipgate) or 020 7043 1320 from the
>PSTN.
>
>This is a synthesised recording of the voice of Pat Simmons, who was the
>voice of the GPO "TIM" speaking clock from 1963 to 1985.
>
>Please let me know if you have any problems accessing the clock, it should
>be on line most of the time but I may have to take it down from time to
>time while I make adjustments to the system.
>


This is really good. What nostalgia!! Thanks Ivor.

I've set my SPA3000 to ring 1431320 on gw2 whenever 123 is dialled.
Works a treat.

David

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Old 07-14-2005, 05:30 PM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Hi All,
>
> I now have a speaking clock on a Sipgate number, if anyone wants to try
> calling it..! The number is 1431320 (Sipgate) or 020 7043 1320 from the
> PSTN.
>
> This is a synthesised recording of the voice of Pat Simmons, who was the
> voice of the GPO "TIM" speaking clock from 1963 to 1985.
>
> Please let me know if you have any problems accessing the clock, it should
> be on line most of the time but I may have to take it down from time to
> time while I make adjustments to the system.
>
> Ivor
>
>


Hi

Working here, and that voice takes me back a bit.

Very good.

Regards

Phil



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Old 07-14-2005, 06:36 PM
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Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

> Please let me know if you have any problems accessing the clock, it should
> be on line most of the time but I may have to take it down from time to
> time while I make adjustments to the system.


I can access it OK via PSTN, but if I try Sipgate to Sipgate I hear the
single ring, then silence.

My Sipgate line seems to be working, a call from a mobile had 2-way
audio, but strangely the second half of the caller-ID was missing...

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Old 07-14-2005, 06:57 PM
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Dave Gill <spam-egg-chips-n-spam@spamsoff.co.uk> wrote:

> I can access it OK via PSTN, but if I try Sipgate to Sipgate I hear the
> single ring, then silence.


Working fine Gradwell to Sipgate (SIP to SIP) too, but still nothing
Sipgate to Sipgate. Strange.

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Old 07-14-2005, 08:47 PM
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In message of Thu, 14 Jul 2005, Dave Gill writes
>Dave Gill <spam-egg-chips-n-spam@spamsoff.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I can access it OK via PSTN, but if I try Sipgate to Sipgate I hear the
>> single ring, then silence.

>
>Working fine Gradwell to Sipgate (SIP to SIP) too, but still nothing
>Sipgate to Sipgate. Strange.
>


What do you mean by Sipgate to Sipgate?

I dial 1431320 on my Sipgate A/c and I get the speaking clock.

Is that what you mean? If so, it works for me.

David

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Old 07-14-2005, 08:56 PM
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David Floyd <david@floyd.org.uk> wrote:

> What do you mean by Sipgate to Sipgate?
>
> I dial 1431320 on my Sipgate A/c


That's what I mean...

> and I get the speaking clock.


.... and I get naff-all.

I think it's some bug with my Sipgate account, although a normal call
from a mobile got through to me. Using the **777 prefix from Gradwell
worked fine, so it's not likely to be a problem at Ivor's end.

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Old 07-14-2005, 09:25 PM
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"Dave Gill" <spam-egg-chips-n-spam@spamsoff.co.uk> wrote in message
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> David Floyd <david@floyd.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> What do you mean by Sipgate to Sipgate?
>>
>> I dial 1431320 on my Sipgate A/c

>
> That's what I mean...
>
>> and I get the speaking clock.

>
> ... and I get naff-all.
>
> I think it's some bug with my Sipgate account, although a normal call
> from a mobile got through to me. Using the **777 prefix from Gradwell
> worked fine, so it's not likely to be a problem at Ivor's end.
>


Im on sipgate and worked fine for me just now.



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Old 07-14-2005, 10:23 PM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Hi All,
>
> I now have a speaking clock on a Sipgate number, if anyone wants to try
> calling it..! The number is 1431320 (Sipgate) or 020 7043 1320 from the
> PSTN.
>
> This is a synthesised recording of the voice of Pat Simmons, who was the
> voice of the GPO "TIM" speaking clock from 1963 to 1985.
>
> Please let me know if you have any problems accessing the clock, it should
> be on line most of the time but I may have to take it down from time to
> time while I make adjustments to the system.
>
> Ivor
>


Excellent!!! Bang on with the Atomic clock with the World Time Server!

Thanks Ivor

Mav



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Old 07-14-2005, 11:03 PM
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In message of Thu, 14 Jul 2005, writes
>On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:47:20 +0100, David Floyd <david@floyd.org.uk>
>wrote:
>
>
>>What do you mean by Sipgate to Sipgate?
>>
>>I dial 1431320 on my Sipgate A/c and I get the speaking clock.
>>
>>Is that what you mean? If so, it works for me.

>
>
>Working fine for me also via Sipgate David just tried it.
>


Then there's no problem with Sipgate then, is there Dexter?

DavidF

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Old 07-14-2005, 11:08 PM
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<Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:56:23 +0100,
> spam-egg-chips-n-spam@spamsoff.co.uk (Dave Gill) wrote:
>
> >I think it's some bug with my Sipgate account,

>
> Now why am I not surprised Dave !!! :)))))) .


I'm baffled now. It's a problem that Ivor came up against a while back
but hadn't affected my set-up until now. I'm currently running 2 ATAs,
one with Gradwell, the other with Sipgate and JD-VoIP. The Gradwell ATA
is in the DMZ and the other ATA just has port-forwarding set up.

With port-forwarding only the Sipgate ATA cannot hear Ivor's speaking
clock (although normal calls seem fine), but if I put it in the DMZ it
can. However, if I manually create a second DMZ for the Sipgate ATA
(ie: all WAN IPs and ports forwarded for UDP and TCP to the ATA's
internal IP) and leave the Gradwell ATA in the real DMZ the Sipgate ATA
still can't hear the speaking clock... That doesn't make sense. :-/

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Old 07-14-2005, 11:19 PM
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Oh boswelox, I've a German-speaking voicemail system now...

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Old 07-15-2005, 01:24 AM
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"Maverick" <Mav@saysnospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:3jmrvrFpuof5U1@individual.net...
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I now have a speaking clock on a Sipgate number, if anyone wants to try
>> calling it..! The number is 1431320 (Sipgate) or 020 7043 1320 from the
>> PSTN.
>>
>> This is a synthesised recording of the voice of Pat Simmons, who was
>> the
>> voice of the GPO "TIM" speaking clock from 1963 to 1985.
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any problems accessing the clock, it
>> should
>> be on line most of the time but I may have to take it down from time to
>> time while I make adjustments to the system.
>>
>> Ivor
>>

>
> Excellent!!! Bang on with the Atomic clock with the World Time Server!
>
> Thanks Ivor
>
> Mav


Glad it's working well..! Good old MSF..! I was wondering whether there
might be a delay of a second or so with the traffic going via VoIP but it
seems to be ok.

I should point out that there are in fact quite a number of these clocks
on line around the country, it was a project via the Telecommunications
Heritage Group a while back, but this is, as far as I'm aware, the first
one to be put on a VoIP line for free (to some..!) access.

Keep the reports coming..!

Ivor




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Old 07-15-2005, 08:02 AM
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In message of Thu, 14 Jul 2005, writes
>On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:03:16 +0100, David Floyd <david@floyd.org.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>In message of Thu, 14 Jul 2005, writes
>>>
>>>Working fine for me also via Sipgate David just tried it.
>>>

>>
>>Then there's no problem with Sipgate then, is there Dexter?

>
>You can't say that David there's been people reporting here that they
>have only one way audio and others saying their lines have been dead
>and god knows what else when mine have been working perfectly.


So if your Sipgate connection is *working perfectly* you can't blame
Sipgate in that situation; it's a problem with the user's equipment.

David

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Old 07-15-2005, 08:27 PM
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Ivor Jones wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I now have a speaking clock on a Sipgate number, if anyone wants to try
> calling it..! The number is 1431320 (Sipgate) or 020 7043 1320 from the
> PSTN.
>
> This is a synthesised recording of the voice of Pat Simmons, who was the
> voice of the GPO "TIM" speaking clock from 1963 to 1985.
>
> Please let me know if you have any problems accessing the clock, it should
> be on line most of the time but I may have to take it down from time to
> time while I make adjustments to the system.
>
> Ivor


hey thats cool works perfect from voipfone

Mat


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Old 07-16-2005, 08:16 AM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> Hi All,
>
> I now have a speaking clock on a Sipgate number, if anyone wants to try
> calling it..! The number is 1431320 (Sipgate) or 020 7043 1320 from the
> PSTN.
>


no speaking clock, 16th July 2005 09.15 am CET (08.15 UK)
tested from sipgate.de

Philippe
7773820 (Sipgate)



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Old 07-16-2005, 08:36 AM
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In message of Sat, 16 Jul 2005, Philippe Deleye writes
>
>"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
>news:3jmrvrFpuof5U1@individual.net...
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I now have a speaking clock on a Sipgate number, if anyone wants to try
>> calling it..! The number is 1431320 (Sipgate) or 020 7043 1320 from the
>> PSTN.
>>

>
>no speaking clock, 16th July 2005 09.15 am CET (08.15 UK)
>tested from sipgate.de
>
>Philippe
>7773820 (Sipgate)
>
>

OK here at 8:35:20 (BST) from sipgate.co.uk

David

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Old 07-16-2005, 08:40 AM
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Philippe Deleye wrote:
> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:3jmrvrFpuof5U1@individual.net...
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I now have a speaking clock on a Sipgate number, if anyone wants
>> to try calling it..! The number is 1431320 (Sipgate) or 020 7043
>> 1320 from the PSTN.
>>

>
> no speaking clock, 16th July 2005 09.15 am CET (08.15 UK)
> tested from sipgate.de
>
> Philippe
> 7773820 (Sipgate)


I have been told by someone else in Germany of this problem - it appears
to be a problem with the German domain, he called from a London number he
has also and it was fine from there. I can call him on his German number
but not the other way round.

If you have a UK number Phillipe try from that, or the PSTN. The problem
has been reported to Sipgate.

Ivor



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Old 07-16-2005, 12:55 PM
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Ivor Jones wrote:

> It's synchronised with MSF in Rugby so should be accurate, although with
> VoIP there may sometimes be a short time lag, but not too much I hope..!


Is there a reason you're not synchronising your time via NTP?

Although I am assuming you are using a PC to do all this.
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Old 07-16-2005, 01:58 PM
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David Wilson Clarke wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>
>> It's synchronised with MSF in Rugby so should be accurate,
>> although with VoIP there may sometimes be a short time lag, but
>> not too much I hope..!

>
> Is there a reason you're not synchronising your time via NTP?


Yes, see below.

> Although I am assuming you are using a PC to do all this.


No, it's a card plugged into a PABX. It uses an MSF receiver because it
was originally designed as a standalone device, see
http://www.samhallas.co.uk/repository/tim_2000/ for details of an earlier
standalone version.

Hope this helps,

Ivor



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Old 07-16-2005, 02:00 PM
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Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:40:47 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>> If you have a UK number Phillipe try from that, or the PSTN. The
>> problem has been reported to Sipgate.

>
> I am saying nothing Ivor but I bet you know what I am
> thinking:))))))))) .


But you *are* saying something..! Like I told you on the phone, we are
going to have to agree to disagree, ok..? Now stop going on about it..!

Ivor



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Old 07-16-2005, 05:08 PM
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Ivor Jones wrote:

> David Wilson Clarke wrote:
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>
>>> It's synchronised with MSF in Rugby so should be accurate,
>>> although with VoIP there may sometimes be a short time lag, but
>>> not too much I hope..!

>>
>> Is there a reason you're not synchronising your time via NTP?

>
> Yes, see below.
>
>> Although I am assuming you are using a PC to do all this.

>
> No, it's a card plugged into a PABX. It uses an MSF receiver because it
> was originally designed as a standalone device, see
> http://www.samhallas.co.uk/repository/tim_2000/ for details of an earlier
> standalone version.


Ah, I see, MSF goes into voice generating hardware, which goes into PABX.

I was guessing, incorrectly, MSF into PC, which played samples.

Much ore interesting the way you've done it.
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Old 07-16-2005, 08:20 PM
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David Wilson Clarke wrote:

[snip]

>>> Although I am assuming you are using a PC to do all this.

>>
>> No, it's a card plugged into a PABX. It uses an MSF receiver
>> because it was originally designed as a standalone device, see
>> http://www.samhallas.co.uk/repository/tim_2000/ for details of an
>> earlier standalone version.

>
> Ah, I see, MSF goes into voice generating hardware, which goes into
> PABX.
>
> I was guessing, incorrectly, MSF into PC, which played samples.
>
> Much ore interesting the way you've done it.


Well I didn't really do it, the hardware and the firmware were developed
by others, the site I quoted above gives some interesting info about the
TIM2000 project (mine is actually a later version, TIM2004) and there are
links to articles about speaking clocks in general.

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Old 07-16-2005, 08:42 PM
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Ivor Jones wrote:

> David Wilson Clarke wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>>> Although I am assuming you are using a PC to do all this.
>>>
>>> No, it's a card plugged into a PABX. It uses an MSF receiver
>>> because it was originally designed as a standalone device, see
>>> http://www.samhallas.co.uk/repository/tim_2000/ for details of an
>>> earlier standalone version.

>>
>> Ah, I see, MSF goes into voice generating hardware, which goes into
>> PABX.
>>
>> I was guessing, incorrectly, MSF into PC, which played samples.
>>
>> Much ore interesting the way you've done it.

>
> Well I didn't really do it, the hardware and the firmware were developed
> by others, the site I quoted above gives some interesting info about the
> TIM2000 project (mine is actually a later version, TIM2004) and there are
> links to articles about speaking clocks in general.


Yes, I understood that. Did you buy it, or build it yourself (not that it
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Old 07-16-2005, 10:45 PM
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David Wilson Clarke wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:


[snip]

>> Well I didn't really do it, the hardware and the firmware were
>> developed by others, the site I quoted above gives some
>> interesting info about the TIM2000 project (mine is actually a
>> later version, TIM2004) and there are links to articles about
>> speaking clocks in general.

>
> Yes, I understood that. Did you buy it, or build it yourself (not
> that it matters, just interested).


Alas and alack, I must confess I bought it ready built, I really should be
ashamed of myself, being a licensed radio amateur, but it's been a while
since I did any serious constructing, plus (a) components are getting
smaller, (b) I'm getting older and (c) I just don't have the space for a
decent workbench, soldering while sitting on the edge of the bed isn't
recommended ;-) Poor excuses I know, but they'll have to do <g>

The clock hasn't had so many calls today, the first day it went on there
were getting on for 100, today only around 30, which is probably just as
well..! Three appear to be from the USA as well, I wonder why someone in
Southern California (which is where the area code came back to) wants to
know the time in the UK..!

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Old 07-17-2005, 12:07 AM
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Ivor,

is this device still made, is their a URL on the specs, will it
interface to asterisk??

Thanks

JP


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Old 07-17-2005, 12:32 AM
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JuliusP wrote:
> Ivor,
>
> is this device still made, is their a URL on the specs, will it
> interface to asterisk??


No, it isn't being made any more, but according to
http://www.sigtel.com/tel_info_tim2000.html there could possibly be plans
to produce an updated version in the future. I know only what is on this
website so if you want to find out more you'll have to follow it up
yourself. Note the date on that site.

Ivor




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