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On 2 Apr 2007 08:29:36 -0700, "LuGuEx" <luisj@voipcallred.com> wrote:

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>
Ivor - you missed this one!!

Why do these spammers patronise by translating into Spanish aswell as
doing an English post?
LOL...

Steve

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:89l41356iecidmp0utg9i8fol5mrmcnfl1@4ax.com...

[snip]

> Forget it Steve the man is totally obsessed perhaps he is busy chasing
> someone who has violated his precious group charter :))))))))))))))) ,
> God only knows how he finds the time to do anything else with his life
> with all the stupid little obsessions that he has .

Yaw.. oops I almost forgot..

Ivor

On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 18:43:46 +0100, clavox@btinternet.com wrote:

>On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 18:04:58 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
><ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>><clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>news:89l41356iecidmp0utg9i8fol5mrmcnfl1@4ax.com. ..
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>> Forget it Steve the man is totally obsessed perhaps he is busy chasing
>>> someone who has violated his precious group charter :))))))))))))))) ,
>>> God only knows how he finds the time to do anything else with his life
>>> with all the stupid little obsessions that he has .
>>
>>Yaw.. oops I almost forgot..
>>
>>Ivor
>>
>YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN YAWN

Lol.....
I only posted this because i started on the Stolichnaya this
afternoon!
I'm a recent newcomer to this particular newsgroup, and i see some
very helpful posts here.
Unfortunately I can't post any helpful responses at the moment, but
I'm getting up to speed with VoIP stuff, and my SPA3102 ATA is on
order.

Thanks again to everyone for your help, including Ivor, who I know I
wound up above!!!!! - butI know he hates spam on the forum, i just
couldn't help it... sorry!!

Cheers
Steve

<SteveC> wrote in message
news:tjp513hfg421dfnqbokj7e6m4t3r8v9bcu@4ax.com...

[snip]

> Thanks again to everyone for your help, including Ivor, who I know I
> wound up above!!!!! - butI know he hates spam on the forum, i just
> couldn't help it... sorry!!

There's only one thing I hate more than spam and that's people calling a
newsgroup a forum. There are distinct differences. Sorry Steve, but there
it is..!

Ivor

On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 00:57:50 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

>
>There's only one thing I hate more than spam and that's people calling a
>newsgroup a forum. There are distinct differences. Sorry Steve, but there
>it is..!
>
>Ivor
>
No need to apologise Ivor! - you are quite correct, i stand corrected.
And this is usenet.
Forum was the wrong word.

Stolichnaya showing it's true clear colour!!

Cheers
Steve

Ivor Jones wrote:
> There's only one thing I hate more than spam and that's people calling a
> newsgroup a forum.

Give it a rest, Ivor.

"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:46140058.0@entanet
> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > There's only one thing I hate more than spam and that's
> > people calling a newsgroup a forum.
>
> Give it a rest, Ivor.

No.

Besides, nobody else has complained, not even Ron, for once.

Even the person who made the comment accepted my reply with good grace.

Why did you have to spoil it..? I expected better from you, Paul.

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:
> Why did you have to spoil it..?

Spoil what? Your corruption of the language?

> I expected better from you, Paul.

?

"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:46158f88.0@entanet
> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > Why did you have to spoil it..?
>
> Spoil what? Your corruption of the language?

Usenet convention, not mine. You spoilt a thread that had not had a
complaint until you.

> > I expected better from you, Paul.
>
> ?

You know what I mean. I took you for someone sensible, I was obviously
mistaken.

Don't bother to reply.

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:46158f88.0@entanet
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>> > Why did you have to spoil it..?
>>
>> Spoil what? Your corruption of the language?
>
> Usenet convention, not mine.

Cite, please? Please provide some evidence rather than just "everybody
knows" or similar.

Here's mine: http://foldoc.org/?query=newsgroup

Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:46158f88.0@entanet
>> Ivor Jones wrote:

> You spoilt a thread that had not had a
> complaint until you.

<57g802F2d5sogU1@mid.individual.net> was not a complaint?

>>> I expected better from you, Paul.
>>
>> ?
>
> You know what I mean. I took you for someone sensible, I was obviously
> mistaken.

Obviously? You are now saying that I am not sensible because my opinion
differs from yours?

> Don't bother to reply.

You want the last word?

"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:46159af1.0@entanet
> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:46158f88.0@entanet
> > > Ivor Jones wrote:
> > > > Why did you have to spoil it..?
> > >
> > > Spoil what? Your corruption of the language?
> >
> > Usenet convention, not mine.
>
> Cite, please? Please provide some evidence rather than
> just "everybody knows" or similar.
>
> Here's mine: http://foldoc.org/?query=newsgroup

How about http://www.usenet.org.uk/

I don't see the word "forum" there at all. I do see the word "newsgroup"
quite extensively though.

Ivor

"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:46159d46.0@entanet
> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:46158f88.0@entanet
> > > Ivor Jones wrote:
>
> > You spoilt a thread that had not had a
> > complaint until you.
>
> <57g802F2d5sogU1@mid.individual.net> was not a complaint?

As I can't resolve that, I have no idea. But I hadn't seen anything that I
would regard as a complaint until you piped in.

> > > > I expected better from you, Paul.
> > >
> > > ?
> >
> > You know what I mean. I took you for someone sensible,
> > I was obviously mistaken.
>
> Obviously? You are now saying that I am not sensible
> because my opinion differs from yours?

It should be obvious to you. I suspect that you are deliberately
misinterpreting what I said, although I won't press the point.

> > Don't bother to reply.
>
> You want the last word?

Not particularly, but I'd expect you to think that, given the tone of your
previous replies. You have always come across to me as a reasonably
balanced person, now you are just putting yourself in the same category as
Ron Chew and his ilk.

I'm disappointed. Reply or not, as you choose, but don't expect me to be
civil to you in the future.

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:46159af1.0@entanet
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:46158f88.0@entanet
>>>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>>> > Why did you have to spoil it..?
>>>>
>>>> Spoil what? Your corruption of the language?
>>> Usenet convention, not mine.
>>
>> Cite, please? Please provide some evidence rather than
>> just "everybody knows" or similar.
>>
>> Here's mine: http://foldoc.org/?query=newsgroup
>
> How about http://www.usenet.org.uk/
>
> I don't see the word "forum" there at all. I do see the word "newsgroup"
> quite extensively though.

It doesn't say anything about the use of the word forum to describe
newsgroups being banned?

I am not saying they cannot be described as newsgroups, that would be
foolish. I am saying that the word forum would also correctly describe them.

Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:46159d46.0@entanet
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:46158f88.0@entanet
>>>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>> You spoilt a thread that had not had a
>>> complaint until you.
>> <57g802F2d5sogU1@mid.individual.net> was not a complaint?
>
> As I can't resolve that, I have no idea.

It is your post of 04/04/2007 00:57.

"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:461658e2.0@entanet

[snip]

> > > Cite, please? Please provide some evidence rather than
> > > just "everybody knows" or similar.
> > >
> > > Here's mine: http://foldoc.org/?query=newsgroup
> >
> > How about http://www.usenet.org.uk/
> >
> > I don't see the word "forum" there at all. I do see the
> > word "newsgroup" quite extensively though.
>
> It doesn't say anything about the use of the word forum
> to describe newsgroups being banned?

It doesn't mention the word forum *at all*.

> I am not saying they cannot be described as newsgroups,
> that would be foolish. I am saying that the word forum
> would also correctly describe them.

But not on Usenet.

Or someone would have done so by now, given the time Usenet has existed.


Ivor

"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:46165956.0@entanet
> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:46159d46.0@entanet
> > > Ivor Jones wrote:
> > > > "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > news:46158f88.0@entanet
> > > > > Ivor Jones wrote:
> > > > You spoilt a thread that had not had a
> > > > complaint until you.
> > > <57g802F2d5sogU1@mid.individual.net> was not a
> > > complaint?
> >
> > As I can't resolve that, I have no idea.
>
> It is your post of 04/04/2007 00:57.

That was a correction, not a complaint. And nobody else complained about
it, not even the person it was addressed to. So why did you..?

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:461658e2.0@entanet
>
> [snip]
>
>>>> Cite, please? Please provide some evidence rather than
>>>> just "everybody knows" or similar.
>>>>
>>>> Here's mine: http://foldoc.org/?query=newsgroup
>>> How about http://www.usenet.org.uk/
>>>
>>> I don't see the word "forum" there at all. I do see the
>>> word "newsgroup" quite extensively though.
>> It doesn't say anything about the use of the word forum
>> to describe newsgroups being banned?
>
> It doesn't mention the word forum *at all*.
>
>> I am not saying they cannot be described as newsgroups,
>> that would be foolish. I am saying that the word forum
>> would also correctly describe them.
>
> But not on Usenet.
>
> Or someone would have done so by now, given the time Usenet has existed.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=+si...t.org.uk+forum

Shows 66 occurances of people refering to newsgroups as forums, all
hosted at usenet.org.uk. (might not be 66 unique occurances)

So I guess people do refer to them as forums.

Shall we petition for these references to be removed/"fixed"?

"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:46166018.0@entanet

[snip]

>
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=+si...t.org.uk+forum
>
> Shows 66 occurances of people refering to newsgroups as
> forums, all hosted at usenet.org.uk. (might not be 66
> unique occurances)
> So I guess people do refer to them as forums.
>
> Shall we petition for these references to be
> removed/"fixed"?

66. Is that all..? Given the number of groups that exist and the number of
people that use them, it's barely a drop in the ocean. Not worth bothering
with.

If you'd said 66,000 I would have taken notice.

Case closed, I think.


Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:46166018.0@entanet
>
> [snip]
>
>> http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=+si...t.org.uk+forum
>>
>> Shows 66 occurances of people refering to newsgroups as
>> forums, all hosted at usenet.org.uk. (might not be 66
>> unique occurances)
>> So I guess people do refer to them as forums.
>>
>> Shall we petition for these references to be
>> removed/"fixed"?
>
> 66. Is that all..? Given the number of groups that exist and the number of
> people that use them, it's barely a drop in the ocean. Not worth bothering
> with.
>
> If you'd said 66,000 I would have taken notice.
>
> Case closed, I think.

You said "Or someone would have done so by now, given the time Usenet
has existed.". Someone has.

"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
news:46166857.0@entanet
> Ivor Jones wrote:
> > "Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:46166018.0@entanet
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=+si...t.org.uk+forum
> > >
> > > Shows 66 occurances of people refering to newsgroups
> > > as forums, all hosted at usenet.org.uk. (might not be
> > > 66 unique occurances)
> > > So I guess people do refer to them as forums.
> > >
> > > Shall we petition for these references to be
> > > removed/"fixed"?
> >
> > 66. Is that all..? Given the number of groups that
> > exist and the number of people that use them, it's
> > barely a drop in the ocean. Not worth bothering with.
> >
> > If you'd said 66,000 I would have taken notice.
> >
> > Case closed, I think.
>
> You said "Or someone would have done so by now, given the
> time Usenet has existed.". Someone has.

But hardly a representative figure. My case rests.

Ivor

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:vrdd13pjd1n6kthh52i0f65lip3cslsbt5@4ax.com
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 16:29:20 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> > 66. Is that all..? Given the number of groups that
> > exist and the number of people that use them, it's
> > barely a drop in the ocean. Not worth bothering with.
>
> In tha case why do YOU go on and on about it .

Tha case..? Is that a northern accent..?

Ivor

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:9vdd13t98gp74g5l7fscrg27rs27vt3ta1@4ax.com
> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 15:04:15 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> > > You want the last word?
> >
> > Not particularly,
>
> Course you do don't lie but you will not get it with me .

I wasn't asking you.

Ivor