Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
> (As an aside, does anyone else think the domain "uk.com" is slightly
> daft..? a UK business..?)
This is one perspective:
A good number of years ago, the .UK domain was controlled by JaNET,
which charged approximately £200pa for commercial entities. (That was
once they'd decided commercial entities could even register, and also
once they'd ackowledged that IP could coexist alongside the Coloured Book
protocols.) At the time, registration in .COM and .ORG was free, so I
attempted to register UK.ORG, and I know others tried to get UK.COM,
etc, but these were blocked by the .ORG and .COM registrars on the
advice of JaNET. Eventually this "advice" (commercial monopoly?) was
overturned and the next people to think of this idea were successful
in registering the domains. Since they charged considerably less than
£200pa the overall price of UK domains plumetted.
In article <4q1e05xfso.ln2@news.roaima.co.uk>,
Chris Davies <chris@roaima.co.uk> wrote:
>Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>> (As an aside, does anyone else think the domain "uk.com" is slightly
>> daft..? a UK business..?)
>
>This is one perspective:
>
>A good number of years ago, the .UK domain was controlled by JaNET,
>which charged approximately £200pa for commercial entities. (That was
>once they'd decided commercial entities could even register, and also
>once they'd ackowledged that IP could coexist alongside the Coloured Book
>protocols.) At the time, registration in .COM and .ORG was free, so I
>attempted to register UK.ORG, and I know others tried to get UK.COM,
>etc, but these were blocked by the .ORG and .COM registrars on the
>advice of JaNET. Eventually this "advice" (commercial monopoly?) was
>overturned and the next people to think of this idea were successful
>in registering the domains. Since they charged considerably less than
>£200pa the overall price of UK domains plumetted.
Plummeted to zero as far as I recall - there was the naming committee
made up of (unelected) staff members of the various ISPs at the time. I
was on it in it's last year or 2 .. Quite a fun time, as people tried to
sneak through the odd personal domain name which were frowned upon at
the time (although I did manage to get one through for a friend ;-)
Then it all went commercial, prices started highish but quickly
plummeted (for members anyway) and I remember the mutterings being made
when uk.com got off the ground too! All fun stuff...
"ITF" <ignorethefacts-entirely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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: : On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:19:46 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: :
: : :
: : :
: : : "ITF" <ignorethefacts-entirely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
: : : message
: : : news:2eg5j3hrsjhsheus0ro8r2dvbpb73t94nm@4ax.com
: : : : : On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:31:54 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : : : : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: : : : :
: : : : : :
: : : : : : On the contrary, it's nothing like any other
: : : : : : VoIP company, with the possible exception of
: : : : : : Vonage. Although even Vonage use ATA's, though
: : : : : : they are locked and therefore to be avoided.
: : : : : :
: : : : : : Ivor
: : : : :
: : : : : Pricewise, per call there is little difference.
: : : : : Thats was what the question was
: : :
: : : Maybe, but that's not what you said.
: : :
: : : Ivor
: :
: : Wrong again
: : What I said was
: : "On the contrary it is similar to most other VOIP
: : companies"
"ITF" <ignorethefacts-entirely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
message news:cc58j3t44j8beoqvnrgln8a2qlvdpk6s06@4ax.com
: : On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:21:39 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: :
: : :
: : :
: : : Your spelling is somewhat suspect, along with your
: : : argument.
: : :
: : : Ivor
: :
: : Well, when your only answer is to criticise peoples
: : spelling, youve obviously lost.
If that's what you want to believe. Doesn't alter the facts.
<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:rd2bj35pq8ljkncron5arpv2611qqhtdt2@4ax.com
: : On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:09:20 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
[snip]
: : : : : : If that's what you want to believe. Doesn't
: : : : : : alter the facts.
: : : : : You are always lost lost unless you are talking
: : : : : about your beloved Sipgate .
: : :
: : : You'll have me yawning again in a minute, Ron.
: : :
: : : Ivor
: : You do and you will have me filling up this group with
: : yawns once more only this time you won't get me to stop
: : so easily and to any one else who reads this blame Ivor
: : not me if this should happen .
In message <1qdbj39ii74gfmf713bff7vbbqa7p894rf@4ax.com>, mymail@hotmail.co.uk writes
>On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:56:58 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
><ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>><mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:rd2bj35pq8ljkncron5arpv2611qqhtdt2@4ax.co m
>>: : On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:09:20 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
>>: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>: : : : : : If that's what you want to believe. Doesn't
>>: : : : : : alter the facts.
>>: : : : : You are always lost lost unless you are talking
>>: : : : : about your beloved Sipgate .
>>: : :
>>: : : You'll have me yawning again in a minute, Ron.
>>: : :
>>: : : Ivor
>>: : You do and you will have me filling up this group with
>>: : yawns once more only this time you won't get me to stop
>>: : so easily and to any one else who reads this blame Ivor
>>: : not me if this should happen .
>>
>>Oh do shut up Ron......
>
>Oh do stop giving your orders Ivor YOU DO NOT OWN THIS FOUREM SO
>I WILL PLEASE MYSELF WHAT I DO at least I don't support a no good voip
>company .
>>>Oh do shut up Ron......
>>
>>Oh do stop giving your orders Ivor YOU DO NOT OWN THIS FOUREM SO
>>I WILL PLEASE MYSELF WHAT I DO at least I don't support a no good voip
>>company .
>
> This is not a FOUREM it is usenet !!!
>
> --
> Spock
Spock, you're not to know, but a word to the wise... A number of us here
have killfiled Ivor and Ron because of their puerile behaviour towards each
other.
Do us a favour and please don't quote them or respond to their little spat
in any way.
In message <fh53o6$2o25$1@energise.enta.net>, cybuerke
<cybuerke@PLMgooglemailmail.com> writes
>
>>>>Oh do shut up Ron......
>>>
>>>Oh do stop giving your orders Ivor YOU DO NOT OWN THIS FOUREM SO
>>>I WILL PLEASE MYSELF WHAT I DO at least I don't support a no good voip
>>>company .
>>
>> This is not a FOUREM it is usenet !!!
>>
>> --
>> Spock
>
>Spock, you're not to know, but a word to the wise... A number of us here
>have killfiled Ivor and Ron because of their puerile behaviour towards each
>other.
>
>Do us a favour and please don't quote them or respond to their little spat
>in any way.
>
>Ta.
>
>
I was trying to educate him, but looking back at previous posts from
him,
then I can see it is a lost cause ;-)
cybuerke wrote:
>>>> Oh do shut up Ron......
>>>
>>> Oh do stop giving your orders Ivor YOU DO NOT OWN THIS FOUREM SO
>>> I WILL PLEASE MYSELF WHAT I DO at least I don't support a no good
>>> voip company .
>>
>> This is not a FOUREM it is usenet !!!
>>
>> --
>> Spock
>
> Spock, you're not to know, but a word to the wise... A number of us
> here have killfiled Ivor and Ron because of their puerile behaviour
> towards each other.
>
> Do us a favour and please don't quote them or respond to their little
> spat in any way.
>
> Ta.
....and poor Ivor was the one who brought this group into being!
Though I agree, he never does himself any favours, he can't simply just
ignore Ron, like most others do.
"Spock <(.¿.)>" <spock@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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: : In message <cjpbj3ths25uk70m0659bv793b0d0b42j2@4ax.com>,
: : mymail@hotmail.co.uk writes
: : : This is a forum .
: :
: : No it is not, it is usenet !
: :
: : --
: : Spock
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote
in message
news:kEpZi.45553$c_1.1935@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk
: : cybuerke wrote:
: : : : : : Oh do shut up Ron......
: : : : :
: : : : : Oh do stop giving your orders Ivor YOU DO NOT OWN
: : : : : THIS FOUREM SO I WILL PLEASE MYSELF WHAT I DO at
: : : : : least I don't support a no good voip company .
: : : :
: : : : This is not a FOUREM it is usenet !!!
: : : :
: : : : --
: : : : Spock
: : :
: : : Spock, you're not to know, but a word to the wise...
: : : A number of us here have killfiled Ivor and Ron
: : : because of their puerile behaviour towards each other.
: : :
: : : Do us a favour and please don't quote them or respond
: : : to their little spat in any way.
: : :
: : : Ta.
: :
: :
: : ...and poor Ivor was the one who brought this group
: : into being!
: :
: : Though I agree, he never does himself any favours, he
: : can't simply just ignore Ron, like most others do.
I can, but I won't. For the simple reason that when I am personally
attacked, I have the right to defend myself.
Like it or killfile me, I don't really care any more.
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote
> in message
> news:kEpZi.45553$c_1.1935@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk
>>> cybuerke wrote:
>>>>>>> Oh do shut up Ron......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh do stop giving your orders Ivor YOU DO NOT OWN
>>>>>> THIS FOUREM SO I WILL PLEASE MYSELF WHAT I DO at
>>>>>> least I don't support a no good voip company .
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not a FOUREM it is usenet !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Spock
>>>>
>>>> Spock, you're not to know, but a word to the wise...
>>>> A number of us here have killfiled Ivor and Ron
>>>> because of their puerile behaviour towards each other.
>>>>
>>>> Do us a favour and please don't quote them or respond
>>>> to their little spat in any way.
>>>>
>>>> Ta.
>>>
>>>
>>> ...and poor Ivor was the one who brought this group
>>> into being!
>>>
>>> Though I agree, he never does himself any favours, he
>>> can't simply just ignore Ron, like most others do.
>
> I can, but I won't. For the simple reason that when I am personally
> attacked, I have the right to defend myself.
>
....but you only feed him.
> Like it or killfile me, I don't really care any more.
>
> Ivor
Why should I killfile you?
If you don't care anymore, why don't you just Killfile Ron and not reply to
him, respond to the bait?
<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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: : On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:44:30 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: :
: : :
: : : "Spock <(.¿.)>" <spock@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
: : : news:8T+BMxVAHiNHFwJU@127.0.0.1
: : :
: : : [snip]
: : :
: : : : : I was trying to educate him, but looking back at
: : : : : previous posts from him,
: : : : : then I can see it is a lost cause ;-)
: : :
: : : Me or him..? At least I am capable of a reasoned
: : : argument, Ron is capable of nothing but abuse.
: :
: : Only regarding yourself and your never ending love of
: : Sipgate Ivor .
More your never ending unreasoned hatred of them I would have thought.
<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:soiej3t9evun4vaj2mlg3rtqgd4t2f7dr3@4ax.com
: : On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:45:41 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: :
: :
: : : I can, but I won't. For the simple reason that when I
: : : am personally attacked, I have the right to defend
: : : myself.
: :
: : This forum was extremely peaceful the other week while
: : you where in poxy Bushland why didn't you stay there
: : instead of coming back here disturbing everyone .
<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:p9mej3h5n38l3a0lq0lmgvpn3e3kcksuj3@4ax.com
: : On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 18:44:42 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: :
: : :
: : :
: : : <mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
: : : news:soiej3t9evun4vaj2mlg3rtqgd4t2f7dr3@4ax.com
: : : : : On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 17:45:41 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : : : : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: : : : :
: : : : :
: : : : : : I can, but I won't. For the simple reason that
: : : : : : when I am personally attacked, I have the right
: : : : : : to defend myself.
: : : : :
: : : : : This forum was extremely peaceful the other week
: : : : : while you where in poxy Bushland why didn't you
: : : : : stay there instead of coming back here disturbing
: : : : : everyone .
: : :
: : : Money, Ron. And this *still* isn't a forum.
: :
: : If only you had told me I would have had some wired
: : over anything to keep you out of this FORUM .
I'll go back if you send me some, can't say fairer than that :-)
In message <5potc2Fscb2oU1@mid.individual.net>, Ivor Jones
<ivor@despammed.invalid> writes
>
>"Spock <(.¿.)>" <spock@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
>news:8T+BMxVAHiNHFwJU@127.0.0.1
>
>[snip]
>
>: : I was trying to educate him, but looking back at
>: : previous posts from him,
>: : then I can see it is a lost cause ;-)
>
>Me or him..? At least I am capable of a reasoned argument, Ron is
>capable of nothing but abuse.
>
>Ivor
>
"Spock <(.¿.)>" <spock@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
news:1kvzRlfGr3NHFwbt@127.0.0.1
: : In message <5potc2Fscb2oU1@mid.individual.net>, Ivor
: : Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> writes
: : :
: : : "Spock <(.¿.)>" <spock@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
: : : news:8T+BMxVAHiNHFwJU@127.0.0.1
: : :
: : : [snip]
: : :
: : : : : I was trying to educate him, but looking back at
: : : : : previous posts from him,
: : : : : then I can see it is a lost cause ;-)
: : :
: : : Me or him..? At least I am capable of a reasoned
: : : argument, Ron is capable of nothing but abuse.
: : :
: : : Ivor
: : :
: :
: : No not you Ivor, it seems Ron does not understand the
: : workings of Usenet.
: : Maybe he uses
: : http://groups.google.com/group/uk.te...p/topics?gvc=2
: : to read/post to this newsgroup.
Oh he understands all right. He just chooses to ignore it.
<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0j3fj3hvcmciah96dj39aao2lg1atr0ab2@4ax.com
: : On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:06:50 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: :
: :
: : : Oh he understands all right. He just chooses to
: : : ignore it.
: :
: : And until the OWNER of Usenet tells me different I
: : shall continue to do so but what I do understand is
: : that the sooner you leave this forum the sooner piece
: : shall return for EVERYONE now go away .
Not in a month of Sundays, Ron. I was here before you knew what Usenet was
and I'll be here long after you're in your box.
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