Sam White wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to ask if anyone knew if tesco are having problems with
> the voip service this evening?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sam W
I've not seen anyone mention on here they use Tesco VoIP, though someone may
pop along eventually.
It's usually one avoided due to being one of the dearest VoIP providers
along with Skype.
"Sam White" <samwhite59.no.spam.here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> Just wanted to ask if anyone knew if tesco are having problems with the
voip
> service this evening?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sam W
>
>
I see you're using Virginmedia as your ISP.
The connection speeds are up & down like
a fiddlers elbow tonight with this provider.
I guess that might be the root of your problem
"Nick" <not.known@here.com.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Sam White" <samwhite59.no.spam.here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6HSMi.3167$%q2.1915@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just wanted to ask if anyone knew if tesco are having problems with the
> voip
>> service this evening?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Sam W
>>
>>
> I see you're using Virginmedia as your ISP.
> The connection speeds are up & down like
> a fiddlers elbow tonight with this provider.
> I guess that might be the root of your problem
>
> when trying to use Tesco voip.
>
>
old man wrote:
> "Nick" <not.known@here.com.uk> wrote in message
> news:37UMi.48973$yN2.24782@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> "Sam White" <samwhite59.no.spam.here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:6HSMi.3167$%q2.1915@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just wanted to ask if anyone knew if tesco are having problems with
>>> the voip service this evening?
>>>
>> I see you're using Virginmedia as your ISP.
>> The connection speeds are up & down like
>> a fiddlers elbow tonight with this provider.
>> I guess that might be the root of your problem
>>
>> when trying to use Tesco voip.
>
> its fine here - speed
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> old man wrote:
>> "Nick" <not.known@here.com.uk> wrote in message
>> news:37UMi.48973$yN2.24782@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>>>
>>> "Sam White" <samwhite59.no.spam.here@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6HSMi.3167$%q2.1915@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Just wanted to ask if anyone knew if tesco are having problems with
>>>> the voip service this evening?
>>>>
>>> I see you're using Virginmedia as your ISP.
>>> The connection speeds are up & down like
>>> a fiddlers elbow tonight with this provider.
>>> I guess that might be the root of your problem
>>>
>>> when trying to use Tesco voip.
>>
>> its fine here - speed
>
>
> Fine here too.
Well I live in the Croydon area and have Virgin media 2 megs I run 2
desktops and 2 laptops plus a ata for my voip calls, no telephone line
from Virgin and the wife was on the phone for a hour for free without
any problems, could be problems if using online music and video at the
same time!
> Well I live in the Croydon area and have Virgin media 2 megs I run 2
> desktops and 2 laptops plus a ata for my voip calls, no telephone line
> from Virgin and the wife was on the phone for a hour for free without
> any problems, could be problems if using online music and video at the
> same time!
>
> Bob
Virgin refused (the past ohhh, hundred or so times) to unbundle my phone
line from the broadband.. I get seperate bills (actually the broadband bills
dont come more than one or two times a year!!!!) but they say that having
the phone is a requirement of having the broadband due to internal policys
:/....
I am a ex-CW user but I would be interested if this is something new you got
there ;)..
mr deo wrote:
>> Well I live in the Croydon area and have Virgin media 2 megs I run 2
>> desktops and 2 laptops plus a ata for my voip calls, no telephone
>> line from Virgin and the wife was on the phone for a hour for free
>> without any problems, could be problems if using online music and
>> video at the same time!
>>
>> Bob
>
>
> Virgin refused (the past ohhh, hundred or so times) to unbundle my
> phone line from the broadband.. I get seperate bills (actually the
> broadband bills dont come more than one or two times a year!!!!) but
> they say that having the phone is a requirement of having the
> broadband due to internal policys :/....
>
> I am a ex-CW user but I would be interested if this is something new
> you got there ;)..
>
> and fyi I rarely suffer throughput problems
I had broadband and TV without phoneline, this was xTelewest and through to
Virgin. I was VoIP only for a couple of years, before I had BT landline as
cable phone was too expensive. I only have had the phone line installed
recently as Virgin offered free install, free extension, free line rental,
free evening and weekend calls and free caller display along with reduced
cost TV, I had previously had a deal for the last two years but they
wouldn't extend that further, yet offered me a better package discounted.
Friends and relatives have broadband only, no other service have also done
for a few years. Though again these are all xTelewest customers.
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:07:03 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
<bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> I had previously had a deal for the last two years but they
>wouldn't extend that further, yet offered me a better package discounted.
I had similar with NTL .. they wouldn't upgrade my BB less I went DD
(and I wouldn't). Then they upgraded me for free. ;-)
>
>Friends and relatives have broadband only, no other service have also done
>for a few years. Though again these are all xTelewest customers.
I have recently had VM drop the phone and the TV from my package and
they did so without an issue.
"T i m" <news@spaced.me.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:07:03 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
> <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I had previously had a deal for the last two years but they
>>wouldn't extend that further, yet offered me a better package discounted.
>
> I had similar with NTL .. they wouldn't upgrade my BB less I went DD
> (and I wouldn't). Then they upgraded me for free. ;-)
>>
>>Friends and relatives have broadband only, no other service have also done
>>for a few years. Though again these are all xTelewest customers.
>
> I have recently had VM drop the phone and the TV from my package and
> they did so without an issue.
>
> All the best ..
>
> T i m
Thanks for all the replies people - I ended up phoning the Tesco support
line and they were very helpful. For future reference, my problem was that
the IPA 1000 didn't have the server address in its config -
gateway.tescointernetphone.com is the correct one.
Its all working great now.
> On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:45:29 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
> <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>I've not seen anyone mention on here they use Tesco VoIP, though someone
>>may pop along eventually.
>>
>>It's usually one avoided due to being one of the dearest VoIP providers
>>along with Skype.
>
> Why do you say Skype is expensive?
Because Skype is expensive.
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alexd wrote:
> ITF wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:45:29 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
>> <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> I've not seen anyone mention on here they use Tesco VoIP, though someone
>>> may pop along eventually.
>>>
>>> It's usually one avoided due to being one of the dearest VoIP providers
>>> along with Skype.
>> Why do you say Skype is expensive?
>
> Because Skype is expensive.
>
ROFL!
"ITF" <ignorethefacts-entirely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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: : On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:45:29 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
: : <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
[snip]
: : : It's usually one avoided due to being one of the
: : : dearest VoIP providers along with Skype.
: :
: : Why do you say Skype is expensive?
"ITF" <ignorethefacts-entirely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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: : On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:09:33 +0000, alexd
: : <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:
: :
: : : ITF wrote:
: : :
: : : : On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:45:29 GMT,
: : : : "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
: : : : <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
: : :
: : : : : I've not seen anyone mention on here they use
: : : : : Tesco VoIP, though someone may pop along
: : : : : eventually.
: : : : :
: : : : : It's usually one avoided due to being one of the
: : : : : dearest VoIP providers along with Skype.
: : : :
: : : : Why do you say Skype is expensive?
: : :
: : : Because Skype is expensive.
: :
: : On the contrary it is similar to most other VOIP
: : companies
On the contrary, it's nothing like any other VoIP company, with the
possible exception of Vonage. Although even Vonage use ATA's, though they
are locked and therefore to be avoided.
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:09:33 +0000, alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>ITF wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:45:29 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
>> <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>>I've not seen anyone mention on here they use Tesco VoIP, though someone
>>>may pop along eventually.
>>>
>>>It's usually one avoided due to being one of the dearest VoIP providers
>>>along with Skype.
>>
>> Why do you say Skype is expensive?
>
>Because Skype is expensive.
Agreed.
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<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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: : On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:31:54 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: :
: :
: : : Although even Vonage use ATA's, though they
: : : are locked and therefore to be avoided.
: :
: : Why may I ask Vonage supply them for free Sipgate gives
: : you damn all for free .
Ah, hello Ron, wondered where you'd got to. In answer to your question,
Vonage don't supply anything for free, they charge you a whopping monthly
rental for their so-called wonderful service.
Sipgate, on the other hand (since *you* mentioned them, I didn't) don't
charge for numbers, you only pay for calls made.
mymail@hotmail.co.uk declared for all the world to hear...
> >Ah, hello Ron, wondered where you'd got to. In answer to your question,
> >Vonage don't supply anything for free, they charge you a whopping monthly
> >rental for their so-called wonderful service.
> You are so right Ivor a whopping great 27p a day and your are moaning
> about 27p a day yet you can go throwing money away on a trip to poxy
> Bushland .
A few days ago on uk.t.m Ivor was complaining at having to complete a
GPRS connection using a mobile phone in order to auto-update the date
and time, an operation which would have cost less than 1p.
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<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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: : On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 23:25:55 -0000, Jon
: : <spam@jonparker.plus.com> wrote:
: :
: :
: : : A few days ago on uk.t.m Ivor was complaining at
: : : having to complete a GPRS connection using a mobile
: : : phone in order to auto-update the date and time, an
: : : operation which would have cost less than 1p.
Tell the full story, Jon. Orange charge for an operation that most if not
all other operators don't. Why should I pay for something that is free
elsewhere..? The amount is irrelevant. And please explain how the charge
could be *less* than 1p without being zero.
: : Ivor does not like to pay for any telephone calls Jon
: : and seems to think that the worst voip provider on the
: : planet is bloody marvelous because it gives out phone
: : numbers for free and masquerades has a UK based company
: : by having a UK web address .
(a) Please cite *proof* that Sipgate (you do mean them when you say "they"
Ron, don't you..!) are the worst provider on the planet.
(b) They do not masquerade as a UK based company, nothing on their site
says this, the contact details page clearly states where they are based.
I really despair about you, Ron. Only you could turn a debate about Tesco
into a rant against a company you aren't even a customer of.
"ITF" <ignorethefacts-entirely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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: : On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:31:54 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: :
: : :
: : : On the contrary, it's nothing like any other VoIP
: : : company, with the possible exception of Vonage.
: : : Although even Vonage use ATA's, though they are
: : : locked and therefore to be avoided.
: : :
: : : Ivor
: :
: : Pricewise, per call there is little difference. Thats
: : was what the question was
"ITF" <ignorethefacts-entirely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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: : On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:33:24 GMT, Brian A
: : <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
: :
: : : On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:09:33 +0000, alexd
: : : <troffasky@hotmail.com> wrote:
: : :
: : : : ITF wrote:
: : : :
: : : : : On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:45:29 GMT,
: : : : : "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
: : : : : <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
: : : :
: : : : : : I've not seen anyone mention on here they use
: : : : : : Tesco VoIP, though someone may pop along
: : : : : : eventually.
: : : : : :
: : : : : : It's usually one avoided due to being one of
: : : : : : the dearest VoIP providers along with Skype.
: : : : :
: : : : : Why do you say Skype is expensive?
: : : :
: : : : Because Skype is expensive.
: : : Agreed.
: :
: : No it isn't. Its the same as other VOIP companies.
"ITF" <ignorethefacts-entirely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
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: : On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:30:21 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: :
: : : "ITF" <ignorethefacts-entirely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
: : : message
: : : news:mme3j39lr90has92igcvpqt8aoi7gknj9f@4ax.com
: : : : : On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:45:29 GMT,
: : : : : "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
: : : : : <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
: : :
: : : [snip]
: : :
: : : : : : It's usually one avoided due to being one of the
: : : : : : dearest VoIP providers along with Skype.
: : : : :
: : : : : Why do you say Skype is expensive?
: : :
: : : Erm.. because it is...?
: :
: : You ignorance, whilst expected is astounding
: : Skype Out is the same and in some cases cheaper than
: : certain VOIP setups
Your spelling is somewhat suspect, along with your argument.
> On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:33:24 GMT, Brian A
> <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:09:33 +0000, alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>ITF wrote:
>>>> Why do you say Skype is expensive?
>>>Because Skype is expensive.
>>Agreed.
> No it isn't. Its the same as other VOIP companies.
Let's look at the facts, shall we?
UK DDI
Sipgate, 0 quid for the >2 years I've had it
Skype, 29 USD a year
Voicemail
Sipgate, 0 quid for the >2 years I've had it
Skype, 15 EUR a year
Calls to UK geographic
Sipgate, 1.19p/minute
Skype, 1.4p/minute
You can't seriously be suggesting that is 'the same', although your
sobriquet is 'ignore the facts', so who knows.
And a little addendum, Skype will wipe any SkypeOut credit you buy if you
don't use the service often enough, a 'feature' that Sipgate fortunately
haven't adopted.
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<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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: : On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 08:18:29 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: :
: :
: : : (b) They do not masquerade as a UK based company,
: : : nothing on their site says this, the contact details
: : : page clearly states where they are based.
: :
: : Do they or do they not have a web address ending in
: : co.UK that tells me or should tell me and everyone else
: : that they are a uk based company one should not have to
: : waste bandwidth and time loading the site to find out
: : otherwise .
Yes they have a .co.uk site but it clearly states on the contact page
where they are. Or don't you think the contact page is a good place to
look when you want to find out how to contact them..?
Plenty of UK companies have a .com address also, which implies they are in
the USA, or is that ok..?
On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 08:01:52 +0000, ITF
<ignorethefacts-entirely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 17:30:21 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
><ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>>"ITF" <ignorethefacts-entirely@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
>>message news:mme3j39lr90has92igcvpqt8aoi7gknj9f@4ax.com
>>: : On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:45:29 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
>>: : <bhx_spam@trapped__hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>: : : It's usually one avoided due to being one of the
>>: : : dearest VoIP providers along with Skype.
>>: :
>>: : Why do you say Skype is expensive?
>>
>>Erm.. because it is...?
>
>You ignorance, whilst expected is astounding
>Skype Out is the same and in some cases cheaper than certain VOIP
>setups
Than 'certain' voip set ups. This may well be correct but users of SIP
services have the option to move to any of the hundreds of competitors
without changing hardware or software. With Skype you have just Skype,
It is a walled garden. The success of Skype is because anyone, with
just basic computer skills, can install it and it works. It does what
it does fairly well. Had the Gizmo project been operational, before
Skype, and given the same publiclity, it most likely would have have
seen Skype off.
Now the new Skype phone is out, at an affordable price, I am sure it
will be a sucess as the majority of Skype users think that Skype is
unique in the provision of over-the-net telephone calls.
Meanwhile, on SIP....
I can ask people at the other side of the world to install Gizmo on
their computer and they can then call direct to my home phone for
free. Alternatively, they can call into their local Sipbroker access
number and call me that way as an alternative to paying for an
international call.
I can call any landline in Australia, untimed, for 4p/call. I can
call many international destinations, for 8p an hour and, of course, I
can call into the many hundreds of SIP providers, for free, via
Sipbroker. No monthly fees involved in any of this. I can call to my
voicemail, from many countries, for the price of a local call.
Similarly I can call other SIP phones, anywhere, from my mobile, or
otherwise, via a local call. I can decide at what time I want to
receive my calls and when they should be directed to voicemail or
another number. I can do callback using my own chosen providers. The
list is endless. However, I do recognise that some of these services
are not easily attainable, by the average 'Joe', so a simpler, but
more expensive, Skype wins out.
<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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: : On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:18:27 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
: :
: : : Yes they have a .co.uk site but it clearly states on
: : : the contact page where they are. Or don't you think
: : : the contact page is a good place to look when you
: : : want to find out how to contact them..?
: :
: : So the contact page is clearly visible before anyone
: : wastes bandwidth and time loading the site is it ! .
How long does it take to load a single page..? The link to the contact
page is right there at the bottom of the main screen.
: : : Plenty of UK companies have a .com address also,
: : : which implies they are in the USA, or is that ok..?
: :
: : I only deal with UK based companies whenever possible
: : and only buy from companies based within driving
: : distance that allow me to go and collect any item I
: : wish to buy, can't be bothered wasting a day waiting in
: : for parcelforce or whoever to deliver an item .
That doesn't answer the question as to why you seem to object to companies
outside the UK having a co.uk address but are apparently perfectly happy
for UK based companies to have web addresses that imply they are not in
the UK.
On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:12:19 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote:
>
> That doesn't answer the question as to why you seem to object to
> companies outside the UK having a co.uk address but are apparently
> perfectly happy for UK based companies to have web addresses that imply
> they are not in the UK.
>
Having been involved in 'the Web' since before it existed, .com is very
clearly generally taken to mean 'business' or even just generic 'website'
- nothing to do with 'US based'.
..co.uk, however is intended for UK businesses or UK branches of
international businesses.
"PCPaul" <urd3@bitrot.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fNFYi.44195$c_1.19346@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk
: : On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:12:19 +0000, Ivor Jones wrote:
: : :
: : : That doesn't answer the question as to why you seem
: : : to object to companies outside the UK having a co.uk
: : : address but are apparently perfectly happy for UK
: : : based companies to have web addresses that imply they
: : : are not in the UK.
: :
: : Having been involved in 'the Web' since before it
: : existed, .com is very clearly generally taken to mean
: : 'business' or even just generic 'website' - nothing to
: : do with 'US based'.
Hmm, maybe, but why have co.uk at all then..? (As an aside, does anyone
else think the domain "uk.com" is slightly daft..? Surely co.uk indicates
a UK business..?)
: : .co.uk, however is intended for UK businesses or UK
: : branches of international businesses.
And sipgate.co.uk is exactly that, the UK arm of a business based outside
the UK.
> On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 09:19:36 +0000, alexd <troffasky@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>You can't seriously be suggesting that is 'the same', although your
>>sobriquet is 'ignore the facts', so who knows.
>>
>
> For most standard calls it is the same or similar
What is a 'standard' call?
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mymail@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 23:25:55 -0000, Jon <spam@jonparker.plus.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> A few days ago on uk.t.m Ivor was complaining at having to complete a
>> GPRS connection using a mobile phone in order to auto-update the date
>> and time, an operation which would have cost less than 1p.
>
> Ivor does not like to pay for any telephone calls Jon and seems to
> think that the worst voip provider on the planet is bloody marvelous
> because it gives out phone numbers for free and masquerades has a UK
> based company by having a UK web address . www.microsoft.co.uk www.aol.co.uk www.google.co.uk www.boeing.co.uk
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