Hi All
I've just had a letter off BT saying my line rental is now going up! - got
to charge for those free weekend calls somehow eh?
Well thats it for me - i want to ditch BT and go for voip on my Virgin media
cable broadband. I already have a Belkin wireless router, so from what I've
read on forums & usenet, a Linksys SPA2102 or PAP2 seem favourite for the
hardware
Question #1: any significant advantage of either? there is about ten quid
difference in price.
VOIP PROVIDER
If and when I'm happy with voip, I intend to port my BT number over and
ditch BT for good. I hear voip.co.uk will do this free but I just went to
their site and can't see how to register / signup as a domestic user, which
doesn't fill me with confidence in my choice, so Question #2: Can anyone
recomend a good voip provider who will let me keep my BT number?
TIA
Chris.
Chris Flash wrote:
> Hi All
> I've just had a letter off BT saying my line rental is now going up! - got
> to charge for those free weekend calls somehow eh?
> Well thats it for me - i want to ditch BT and go for voip on my Virgin media
> cable broadband. I already have a Belkin wireless router, so from what I've
> read on forums & usenet, a Linksys SPA2102 or PAP2 seem favourite for the
> hardware
> Question #1: any significant advantage of either? there is about ten quid
> difference in price.
>
> VOIP PROVIDER
> If and when I'm happy with voip, I intend to port my BT number over and
> ditch BT for good. I hear voip.co.uk will do this free but I just went to
> their site and can't see how to register / signup as a domestic user, which
> doesn't fill me with confidence in my choice, so Question #2: Can anyone
> recomend a good voip provider who will let me keep my BT number?
> TIA
> Chris.
>
>
Voip.co.uk dont seem to want residental users ATM...
Chris Flash formulated the question :
> Hi All
> I've just had a letter off BT saying my line rental is now going up! - got to
> charge for those free weekend calls somehow eh?
> Well thats it for me - i want to ditch BT and go for voip on my Virgin media
> cable broadband. I already have a Belkin wireless router, so from what I've
> read on forums & usenet, a Linksys SPA2102 or PAP2 seem favourite for the
> hardware
> Question #1: any significant advantage of either? there is about ten quid
> difference in price.
The SPA has a built in ethernet router. Fairly basic router and not
really suitable for the fast(er) cable broadbands. Otherwise, they're
very similar products.
Just beware of the fact that many PAP2s are locked; make sure you buy
one that wasn't supplied originally by, say, Vonage.
> VOIP PROVIDER
> If and when I'm happy with voip, I intend to port my BT number over and ditch
> BT for good. I hear voip.co.uk will do this free but I just went to their
> site and can't see how to register / signup as a domestic user, which doesn't
> fill me with confidence in my choice, so Question #2: Can anyone recomend a
> good voip provider who will let me keep my BT number?
> TIA
> Chris.
On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:59:11 GMT, Duncan MacCallum
<dmacca@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>Chris Flash wrote:
>> Hi All
>> I've just had a letter off BT saying my line rental is now going up! - got
>> to charge for those free weekend calls somehow eh?
>> Well thats it for me - i want to ditch BT and go for voip on my Virgin media
>> cable broadband. I already have a Belkin wireless router, so from what I've
>> read on forums & usenet, a Linksys SPA2102 or PAP2 seem favourite for the
>> hardware
>> Question #1: any significant advantage of either? there is about ten quid
>> difference in price.
>>
>> VOIP PROVIDER
>> If and when I'm happy with voip, I intend to port my BT number over and
>> ditch BT for good. I hear voip.co.uk will do this free but I just went to
>> their site and can't see how to register / signup as a domestic user, which
>> doesn't fill me with confidence in my choice, so Question #2: Can anyone
>> recomend a good voip provider who will let me keep my BT number?
>> TIA
>> Chris.
>>
>>
>Voip.co.uk dont seem to want residental users ATM...
They have actually stated, in a posting in their own forums, that, as
I read it, they make more money from one business customer than all
their residential customers and that residential customers make more
noise.
I decided not renew, for the present time anyway, because, despite
what they say, I don't think their heart is in it anymore for
residential customers. Even so, there is no reason why you shouldn't
use voip.co.uk for your incoming calls. It is very easy to use other
providers for your outgoing calls. If you go for another provider
you'll have to pay, usually a monthly fee, so I'd question whether you
really need to keep your BT number or if it is easy enough just to
text everyone and tell them your number is changing.
In regard to an ATA, I'd just go for a NEW, UNLOCKED, definitely NOT
Ebay, PAP2 (Jono has warned you and I'm saying the same) and use the
services of voxalot.com. With Voxalot you'll be able to use as many
outgoing providers as you like, forward calls, decide what times you
want to receive calls and when they should be directed to voicemail or
otherwise. You can also do callback if you wish. All the facilities
such as the 'voicemail waiting' indicator, caller number display and
'call waiting all work well using Voxalot.
You have to pay a small fee to Voxalot but I think that it is worth
it. There is mySipSwitch but it doesn't, currently, have the same
facilities as Voxalot.
I'd overlap your BT/Voip for a short while until you are satisfied you
have a reliable working set up. You should also have a mobile phone,
switched on, in a known place, at all times, in case of emergency. If
the broadband goes off you'll have no way of making emergency calls
without a mobile phone. Some providers, voip.co.uk included, do
support 999, but don't expect it to be as good as using a standard
landline.
The easiest way to connect up your ATA to handsets is to have a set of
cordless phones.
In message of Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Chris Flash writes
>Hi All
>I've just had a letter off BT saying my line rental is now going up! - got
>to charge for those free weekend calls somehow eh?
It hasn't gone up for me. I have paperfree billing and pay by DD; so NO
increase.
Update: extract from voip.co.uk response:-
We are only able to sign up business users at this time as we do not
currently have a Residential offering - we are to be launching a new
residential offering but this has not yet been released. I don't have any
time-scales but expect it to be a couple of months before these are launched
I'm afraid.
You can become a business customer of VoIP.co.uk and I am happy to discuss
this with you, but I don' think that we'll be competitive at this level.
Chris.
"Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:05fjs3hr9ou2ouv3bvarharm9m7ejtfi7r@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:59:11 GMT, Duncan MacCallum
> <dmacca@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Chris Flash wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>> I've just had a letter off BT saying my line rental is now going up! -
>>> got
>>> to charge for those free weekend calls somehow eh?
>>> Well thats it for me - i want to ditch BT and go for voip on my Virgin
>>> media
>>> cable broadband. I already have a Belkin wireless router, so from what
>>> I've
>>> read on forums & usenet, a Linksys SPA2102 or PAP2 seem favourite for
>>> the
>>> hardware
>>> Question #1: any significant advantage of either? there is about ten
>>> quid
>>> difference in price.
>>>
>>> VOIP PROVIDER
>>> If and when I'm happy with voip, I intend to port my BT number over and
>>> ditch BT for good. I hear voip.co.uk will do this free but I just went
>>> to
>>> their site and can't see how to register / signup as a domestic user,
>>> which
>>> doesn't fill me with confidence in my choice, so Question #2: Can anyone
>>> recomend a good voip provider who will let me keep my BT number?
>>> TIA
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>>
>>Voip.co.uk dont seem to want residental users ATM...
> They have actually stated, in a posting in their own forums, that, as
> I read it, they make more money from one business customer than all
> their residential customers and that residential customers make more
> noise.
> I decided not renew, for the present time anyway, because, despite
> what they say, I don't think their heart is in it anymore for
> residential customers. Even so, there is no reason why you shouldn't
> use voip.co.uk for your incoming calls. It is very easy to use other
> providers for your outgoing calls. If you go for another provider
> you'll have to pay, usually a monthly fee, so I'd question whether you
> really need to keep your BT number or if it is easy enough just to
> text everyone and tell them your number is changing.
>
> In regard to an ATA, I'd just go for a NEW, UNLOCKED, definitely NOT
> Ebay, PAP2 (Jono has warned you and I'm saying the same) and use the
> services of voxalot.com. With Voxalot you'll be able to use as many
> outgoing providers as you like, forward calls, decide what times you
> want to receive calls and when they should be directed to voicemail or
> otherwise. You can also do callback if you wish. All the facilities
> such as the 'voicemail waiting' indicator, caller number display and
> 'call waiting all work well using Voxalot.
>
> You have to pay a small fee to Voxalot but I think that it is worth
> it. There is mySipSwitch but it doesn't, currently, have the same
> facilities as Voxalot.
>
> I'd overlap your BT/Voip for a short while until you are satisfied you
> have a reliable working set up. You should also have a mobile phone,
> switched on, in a known place, at all times, in case of emergency. If
> the broadband goes off you'll have no way of making emergency calls
> without a mobile phone. Some providers, voip.co.uk included, do
> support 999, but don't expect it to be as good as using a standard
> landline.
>
> The easiest way to connect up your ATA to handsets is to have a set of
> cordless phones.
>
> ---
> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
> ---
In article <5qXyj.61830$os2.3546@newsfe3-win.ntli.net>,
Chris Flash <haha@hehe.com> wrote:
>Update: extract from voip.co.uk response:-
>We are only able to sign up business users at this time as we do not
>currently have a Residential offering - we are to be launching a new
>residential offering but this has not yet been released. I don't have any
>time-scales but expect it to be a couple of months before these are launched
>I'm afraid.
It's an intersting situation dealing with the residential side of
things... Right now I'm purely dealing with SMEs, but have looked at
resiential users, but ... It's such a hassle dealing with support ... :)
Great if you get clued-up users, but otherwise ...
And then as the clued-up ones know about the betamax products, you have
to wonder why someone would want something else ...
What did you get from voip.co.uk that you can't get elsewhere?
And more importantly ;-) How much are you willing to pay!
<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:j9tos31gb9meijrdjfa76ics9jjdfvkhg5@4ax.com
: : On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:49:25 GMT, "Chris Flash"
: : <haha@hehe.com> wrote:
: :
: :
: : : VOIP PROVIDER
: : : If and when I'm happy with voip, I intend to port my
: : : BT number over and ditch BT for good. I hear
: : : voip.co.uk will do this free but I just went to their
: : : site and can't see how to register / signup as a
: : : domestic user, which doesn't fill me with confidence
: : : in my choice,
: : Been like this since last September/October I get the
: : feeling they do not want any residential customers
: : anymore .
Why would *any* provider want *you* as a customer, Ron..?
In article <633mseF25hdl6U1@mid.individual.net>, Ivor Jones
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> writes
>
>
><mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:j9tos31gb9meijrdjfa76ics9jjdfvkhg5@4ax.com
>: : On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:49:25 GMT, "Chris Flash"
>: : <haha@hehe.com> wrote:
>: :
>: :
>: : : VOIP PROVIDER
>: : : If and when I'm happy with voip, I intend to port my
>: : : BT number over and ditch BT for good. I hear
>: : : voip.co.uk will do this free but I just went to their
>: : : site and can't see how to register / signup as a
>: : : domestic user, which doesn't fill me with confidence
>: : : in my choice,
>: : Been like this since last September/October I get the
>: : feeling they do not want any residential customers
>: : anymore .
>
>Why would *any* provider want *you* as a customer, Ron..?
>
>Ivor
>
Any issue with the phone and broadband provision when BT is dumped to
join the great free VOIP realm?
On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:11:52 +0000, John
<fredclark@consltec.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <633mseF25hdl6U1@mid.individual.net>, Ivor Jones
><ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> writes
>>
>>
>><mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:j9tos31gb9meijrdjfa76ics9jjdfvkhg5@4ax.co m
>>: : On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:49:25 GMT, "Chris Flash"
>>: : <haha@hehe.com> wrote:
>>: :
>>: :
>>: : : VOIP PROVIDER
>>: : : If and when I'm happy with voip, I intend to port my
>>: : : BT number over and ditch BT for good. I hear
>>: : : voip.co.uk will do this free but I just went to their
>>: : : site and can't see how to register / signup as a
>>: : : domestic user, which doesn't fill me with confidence
>>: : : in my choice,
>>: : Been like this since last September/October I get the
>>: : feeling they do not want any residential customers
>>: : anymore .
>>
>>Why would *any* provider want *you* as a customer, Ron..?
>>
>>Ivor
>>
>
>Any issue with the phone and broadband provision when BT is dumped to
>join the great free VOIP realm?
Not sure what you mean exactly. Obviously you need a way of getting
broadband. If you're able to get cable then you can just go for the
broadband or, say, the 2 for £20 if you want TV - you might be able to
get broadband and mobile phone (300/300) for £20 if you negotiate
with them. Then as far as I am concerned the only issue is that voip
is better then BT except for the obvious issue re 999 calls.
With voip you'll get all the services like voicemail etc. as I
mentioned earlier in this thread.
If you can't get cable then you could go for one of the Tiscali deals.
A friend has Tiscali broadband/phone and he is very happy with it.
However, he doesn't use voip because he mostly makes free calls at the
weekend on his Tiscali phone and he uses his mobile the rest of the
time, so I have not tried voip on the line but afaik there are no
issues. http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/ta...rccode=COD_592
I don't know if the £14.99 includes VAT or not.
<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:o4iqs3dog5fjcnsd98acuhagm6d0e44fi0@4ax.com
: : On Tue, 4 Mar 2008 01:27:22 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
:
: : : Why would *any* provider want *you* as a customer,
: : : Ron..?
: : Get stuffed Iver go and play with your NAZI friends .
<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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: : On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:27:33 +0000, Al Paca
: : <Al-Paca@lostsomewhereinperu.com> wrote:
: :
: : : On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:03:24 GMT,
: : : mymail@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
: : :
: : : : Been like this since last September/October I get
: : : : the feeling they do not want any residential
: : : : customers anymore .
: : :
: : : They certainly don't want you Ron, either as a
: : : customer or a user of their forum.
: : Like many pillocks just like you they just don't like
: : the truth now fuck off and may you rot in hell and the
: : same goes for Ivor .
Ooh, you really are touchy today, Ron. Someone hit a nerve..?
>There are one or two things other than nerves I would like to hit ,I
>get increasingly more pi**ed of with the Internet and the people using
>it these days with every day that passes .
<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:nputs3tneskvpaa06gu9cvc626hf5tcahm@4ax.com
: : On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:33:57 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
[snip]
: : : Ooh, you really are touchy today, Ron. Someone hit a
: : : nerve..?
: : There are one or two things other than nerves I would
: : like to hit ,I get increasingly more pissed of with the
: : Internet and the people using it these days with every
: : day that passes .
<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:e77us310n5505k7d1fcit26jhoo3oi3t4r@4ax.com
: : On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 20:20:20 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:537us3lnqfgas563ov2o2rn7rt7gi2crvb@4ax.com
: : On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:20:57 +0000, Al Paca
: : <Al-Paca@lostsomewhereinperu.com> wrote:
: :
: : : On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 18:33:57 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
: : : <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> wrote:
: : :
: : : : Ooh, you really are touchy today, Ron. Someone hit
: : : : a nerve..?
: : :
: : : Looks like it's your turn at stoking Ivor.
: : Looks like it is time you fucked off you shit starring
: : bastard and take your spam hating sipgate loving friend
: : with you.
Ooh, now he's really wound up..! Wonder when the spring'll bust..?
> ... I
> get increasingly more pissed of with the Internet and the people using
> it these days with every day that passes .
Well, at least you will gradually be learning how the rest of the world
feels after reading the stuff you contribute to discussions.
I'm sure we'd eventually manage to cope with the pain of not hearing
from you again if you decided to get a life, so don't feel you have to
keep using the internet, Ron.
Thats It now!! 
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