Daughter is shortly off to uni for the first time and will be living in
a uni flat wired with internet.
The Uni is plugging the use of internet telephony, and is advising the
use of their preferred system, 'Freewire'. Looking at its website at http://www.freewiretv.com/phonefaqs.html#1 as far as I can tell this
looks pants, as for me to ring her from my landline, I'll need to dial
an 0844 number (ie so-called 'lo-call'!! rates) and then enter her ID
number. Anyone know anything about this system?
I personally use a sipgate system (sometimes) which gives me an ordinary
geographic number for incoming calls, so I'd rather set her up with
that, especially as my ordinary landline gives me free calls to
geographic numbers. However, I'm guessing that if the uni is plugging
this freewire thing, most other campus users will be on that, so to
obtain free calls to them she'll need to stick with that system.
And now she tells me that all her mates from school are using 'Skype',
so that's a third bloody system which she'll need to keep in contact
with them!
Is it possible to have multiple voip providers all running at once, or
will they conflict horribly or something? Don't know much about voip,
TBH - any thoughts very welcome...
In article <u06sm.111114$gY4.39118@newsfe08.ams2>,
Lobster <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Daughter is shortly off to uni for the first time and will be living in
>a uni flat wired with internet.
>
>The Uni is plugging the use of internet telephony, and is advising the
>use of their preferred system, 'Freewire'. Looking at its website at
>http://www.freewiretv.com/phonefaqs.html#1 as far as I can tell this
>looks pants, as for me to ring her from my landline, I'll need to dial
>an 0844 number (ie so-called 'lo-call'!! rates) and then enter her ID
>number. Anyone know anything about this system?
>
>I personally use a sipgate system (sometimes) which gives me an ordinary
>geographic number for incoming calls, so I'd rather set her up with
>that, especially as my ordinary landline gives me free calls to
>geographic numbers. However, I'm guessing that if the uni is plugging
>this freewire thing, most other campus users will be on that, so to
>obtain free calls to them she'll need to stick with that system.
>
>And now she tells me that all her mates from school are using 'Skype',
>so that's a third bloody system which she'll need to keep in contact
>with them!
>
>Is it possible to have multiple voip providers all running at once, or
>will they conflict horribly or something? Don't know much about voip,
>TBH - any thoughts very welcome...
You certianly can have multiple providers - however it may be that the
uny has blocked/firewalled other "competing" VoIP providers - and they
may well be able to block Skype too. Just set her up with sipgate and
see if it's workis...
"Lobster" <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u06sm.111114$gY4.39118@newsfe08.ams2...
> Daughter is shortly off to uni for the first time and will be living in a
> uni flat wired with internet.
>
> The Uni is plugging the use of internet telephony, and is advising the use
> of their preferred system, 'Freewire'. Looking at its website at
> http://www.freewiretv.com/phonefaqs.html#1 as far as I can tell this looks
> pants, as for me to ring her from my landline, I'll need to dial an 0844
> number (ie so-called 'lo-call'!! rates) and then enter her ID number.
> Anyone know anything about this system?
>
> I personally use a sipgate system (sometimes) which gives me an ordinary
> geographic number for incoming calls, so I'd rather set her up with that,
> especially as my ordinary landline gives me free calls to geographic
> numbers. However, I'm guessing that if the uni is plugging this freewire
> thing, most other campus users will be on that, so to obtain free calls to
> them she'll need to stick with that system.
>
> And now she tells me that all her mates from school are using 'Skype', so
> that's a third bloody system which she'll need to keep in contact with
> them!
>
> Is it possible to have multiple voip providers all running at once, or
> will they conflict horribly or something? Don't know much about voip,
> TBH - any thoughts very welcome...
>
> David
<churchhill>
Oh yes!
</churchhill>
My son is going on his first academic sojourn next week, so campus
communication has been given much thought.
This is what we have done, I am very pleased with the result!
First bought him a going away present, a '3 Skypephone S2'.
£49.99 including a £10 topup which she won't actually need
at least not for voice calling, she can use it to browse the interweb
Now Skype is much derided in this group, and I include myself
amongst those say its not "proper" VoIP like SIP etc.
but for this application.
What I have done is set up a Skype-SIP gateway called SIPtoSIS. which is
currently
running on a Windows computer here in the office at home (which
tends to be on 24/7. It can remain like that, but ideally it will
run on his own PC in his room in the Halls, port blocking permitting.
This is what happens.
If he wants to make a call to a mobile or landline he calls the Skype
Gateway which effectively forwards the call as a SIP call to a free
hosted Asterisk service called pbxes.org. This gives him a BT style
dial-tone, he simply dials the number he wants, the outbound call
goes through smslisto.com, (my SIP provider of choice at the moment)
0800,0500,0808 go via a Sipgate account 'cos the aren't free on smslisto:(
In addition I have set some single digit extensions in pbxes with call
forwarding
to commonly used numbers that act as speed-dials. So "1" calls my mobile
"2" dials SWMBO's, etc.
So the net result is he carries a phone with no credit and he can call
landlines un the UK and many places abroad for about 1 p/m
and UK mobiles for about 5 p/m
And the best part is his Dad pays the bill...
The SIPtoSIS gateway is bi-directional and it is possible for a Sipgate
geographic number to call the Skypephone but I have decided not
to peruse this because if there is a call in the other direction in progress
it gets cut off.
The whole thing sounds a bit complex, but really it isn't. I have been
considering putting a step-by-step guide on a webpage, would you
be interested?
Graham. explained :
> The whole thing sounds a bit complex, but really it isn't. I have been
> considering putting a step-by-step guide on a webpage, would you
> be interested?
In article <h8r3hl$p7u$1@news.datemas.de>, Nigel <dgfh@ndhs.net> wrote:
>Hi ,
>
>You don't have to use the 0845 just use:-
>0207 983 9388. which I think is just a local number.
I know I'm going to sound like a pedantic phone nerd, but the London
dialling code is 020, not 0207 or 0208. So you ought to write that
number as:
Gordon Henderson formulated on Wednesday :
> In article <h8r3hl$p7u$1@news.datemas.de>, Nigel <dgfh@ndhs.net> wrote:
>> Hi ,
>>
>> You don't have to use the 0845 just use:-
>> 0207 983 9388. which I think is just a local number.
>
> I know I'm going to sound like a pedantic phone nerd, but the London
> dialling code is 020, not 0207 or 0208. So you ought to write that
> number as:
>
> 020 7983 9388
>
> Gordon
> (aka pedantic phone nerd)
Much easier to always use the following format for every number:
Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
> Gordon Henderson formulated on Wednesday :
> > In article <h8r3hl$p7u$1@news.datemas.de>, Nigel <dgfh@ndhs.net> wrote:
> >> Hi ,
> >>
> >> You don't have to use the 0845 just use:-
> >> 0207 983 9388. which I think is just a local number.
> >
> > I know I'm going to sound like a pedantic phone nerd, but the London
> > dialling code is 020, not 0207 or 0208. So you ought to write that
> > number as:
> >
> > 020 7983 9388
> >
> > Gordon
> > (aka pedantic phone nerd)
>
> Much easier to always use the following format for every number:
>
> 02079839388....afterall, you don't dial spaces!
>
You don't dial the 020 at the start if you live in London. :-)
on 16/09/2009, tinnews@isbd.co.uk supposed :
> Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
>> Gordon Henderson formulated on Wednesday :
>>> In article <h8r3hl$p7u$1@news.datemas.de>, Nigel <dgfh@ndhs.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi ,
>>>>
>>>> You don't have to use the 0845 just use:-
>>>> 0207 983 9388. which I think is just a local number.
>>>
>>> I know I'm going to sound like a pedantic phone nerd, but the London
>>> dialling code is 020, not 0207 or 0208. So you ought to write that
>>> number as:
>>>
>>> 020 7983 9388
>>>
>>> Gordon
>>> (aka pedantic phone nerd)
>>
>> Much easier to always use the following format for every number:
>>
>> 02079839388....afterall, you don't dial spaces!
>>
> You don't dial the 020 at the start if you live in London. :-)
I bet there's a few that do as that'll be the only way they can get
through as dropping 020 8 or 020 7 has stopped working.
Jono formulated on Wednesday :
>> You don't dial the 020 at the start if you live in London. :-)
>
> I bet there's a few that do as that'll be the only way they can get through
> as dropping 020 8 or 020 7 has stopped working.
When I say "stopped working" I didn't mean that it ever has worked..
In article <h8r272$1qq7$1@energise.enta.net>, Gordon Henderson
<gordon+usenet@drogon.net> scribeth thus
>In article <u06sm.111114$gY4.39118@newsfe08.ams2>,
>Lobster <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>Daughter is shortly off to uni for the first time and will be living in
>>a uni flat wired with internet.
>>
>>The Uni is plugging the use of internet telephony, and is advising the
>>use of their preferred system, 'Freewire'. Looking at its website at
>>http://www.freewiretv.com/phonefaqs.html#1 as far as I can tell this
>>looks pants, as for me to ring her from my landline, I'll need to dial
>>an 0844 number (ie so-called 'lo-call'!! rates) and then enter her ID
>>number. Anyone know anything about this system?
>>
>>I personally use a sipgate system (sometimes) which gives me an ordinary
>>geographic number for incoming calls, so I'd rather set her up with
>>that, especially as my ordinary landline gives me free calls to
>>geographic numbers. However, I'm guessing that if the uni is plugging
>>this freewire thing, most other campus users will be on that, so to
>>obtain free calls to them she'll need to stick with that system.
>>
>>And now she tells me that all her mates from school are using 'Skype',
>>so that's a third bloody system which she'll need to keep in contact
>>with them!
>>
>>Is it possible to have multiple voip providers all running at once, or
>>will they conflict horribly or something? Don't know much about voip,
>>TBH - any thoughts very welcome...
>
>You certianly can have multiple providers - however it may be that the
>uny has blocked/firewalled other "competing" VoIP providers - and they
>may well be able to block Skype too. Just set her up with sipgate and
>see if it's workis...
>
>Gordon
If so then they ought to protest!!! something that students these days
seem not to be able to do;!..
--
Tony Sayer
"Theo Markettos" <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
news:Xsi*ltiRs@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk...
> Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
>> Yep.
>
> Definitely. Is SIPtoSIS essentially something that controls a normal
> Skype
> client (eg fakes clicks on particular buttons)?
>
> Presumably it's x86/PPC only (for the Skype client; Java would be
> cross-platform) - shame, it would be neat to run it on my router.
>
> Theo
Worse than that Theo, it has to run on the same machine as the
regular Skype client.
I'm at Ronaldsway airport typing this, When I get home to
Manchester I will see what I can cobble together on the Web
by way of a step by step guide.
--
Graham.
"Lobster" <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u06sm.111114$gY4.39118@newsfe08.ams2...
> Daughter is shortly off to uni for the first time and will be living in a
> uni flat wired with internet.
>
> The Uni is plugging the use of internet telephony, and is advising the use
> of their preferred system, 'Freewire'. Looking at its website at
> http://www.freewiretv.com/phonefaqs.html#1 as far as I can tell this looks
> pants, as for me to ring her from my landline, I'll need to dial an 0844
> number (ie so-called 'lo-call'!! rates) and then enter her ID number.
> Anyone know anything about this system?
>
> I personally use a sipgate system (sometimes) which gives me an ordinary
> geographic number for incoming calls, so I'd rather set her up with that,
> especially as my ordinary landline gives me free calls to geographic
> numbers. However, I'm guessing that if the uni is plugging this freewire
> thing, most other campus users will be on that, so to obtain free calls to
> them she'll need to stick with that system.
>
> And now she tells me that all her mates from school are using 'Skype', so
> that's a third bloody system which she'll need to keep in contact with
> them!
>
> Is it possible to have multiple voip providers all running at once, or
> will they conflict horribly or something? Don't know much about voip,
> TBH - any thoughts very welcome...
>
> David
>
>
>
You certainly can use more than one Voip provider - I have Voipfone and BT
Voip, and the ToR Siemens phone supports routing through up to six. Subject
to you bandwidth you can use both (and your landline) at the same time.
Skype is proprietary. If you like Apple, $ky and Sony you'll be fine if not
don't bother.
"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.84457d9958b5398e.88534@blueyonder.invalid. ..
> Graham. explained :
>> The whole thing sounds a bit complex, but really it isn't. I have been
>> considering putting a step-by-step guide on a webpage, would you
>> be interested?
>
> Yep.
"Graham." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:h8uhea$o24$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
> "Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
> news:mn.84457d9958b5398e.88534@blueyonder.invalid. ..
> > Graham. explained :
> >> The whole thing sounds a bit complex, but really it isn't. I have been
> >> considering putting a step-by-step guide on a webpage, would you
> >> be interested?
> >
> > Yep.
>
> http://crx.netfirms.com/
> Rough draft
>
> --
> Graham.
>
> %Profound_observation%
>
>
Great stuff Graham.
One small problem, (and it might my screen resolution for webpages)
The first graphic you've included in the guide "Manage API Control"
overlaps the last two paragraphs following;
"Now we have what we need this is what to do.
Install Skype. Set up an account lets call it MySkypeGateway for this
exercise".
I hope I've made myself clear, and if it is my resolution at fault, could
you please send the last two paragraphs before the "Manage API Control"
to the NG.
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Nick <not.known@here.com.uk> wrote:
>
> One small problem, (and it might my screen resolution for webpages)
> The first graphic you've included in the guide "Manage API Control"
> overlaps the last two paragraphs following;
> "Now we have what we need this is what to do.
> Install Skype. Set up an account lets call it MySkypeGateway for this
> exercise".
>
Yes, I noticed the same. [I think it happened in more than one place, where
text was covered by a screen-shot]
I wondered whether it was browser dependent (I use Firefox) and was going to
try it with a different browser, but haven't yet got round to it.
It's all good stuff - albeit totally new to me - so, in addition to the nuts
and bolts of how to set it up, I could do with a bit more explanation of
exactly what it sets out to achieve, along the lines of . . .
"When you want to make a call, you dial it on XXX and it gets routed via YYY
and ZZZ and you get charged NNN"
"When someone wants to call you, they dial XXX and it is received by YYY
which diverts it to ZZZ so that your Skype phone rings" or whatever. [It
sounds like there are more steps than this, but you can probably see what I
mean. The routing may well be implicit in what has already been written, but
it needs to be a bit more explicit for the likes of me!]
--
Cheers,
Roger
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"Nick" <not.known@here.com.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Graham." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:h8uhea$o24$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>
>> "Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:mn.84457d9958b5398e.88534@blueyonder.invalid. ..
>> > Graham. explained :
>> >> The whole thing sounds a bit complex, but really it isn't. I have been
>> >> considering putting a step-by-step guide on a webpage, would you
>> >> be interested?
>> >
>> > Yep.
>>
>> http://crx.netfirms.com/
>> Rough draft
>>
>> --
>> Graham.
>>
>> %Profound_observation%
>>
>>
> Great stuff Graham.
>
> One small problem, (and it might my screen resolution for webpages)
> The first graphic you've included in the guide "Manage API Control"
> overlaps the last two paragraphs following;
> "Now we have what we need this is what to do.
> Install Skype. Set up an account lets call it MySkypeGateway for this
> exercise".
>
> I hope I've made myself clear, and if it is my resolution at fault, could
> you please send the last two paragraphs before the "Manage API Control"
> to the NG.
>
> Cheers and nice work.
Thanks Nick, it was only the most signigicant part of the whole thing,
Sods law a suppose. I haven't done a site like this for yonks, and I'm
using Publisher fore the first time rather than Front Page. There seems to
be
a limit to how much text you can type in a text box. Seems OK now and
hope it makes more sense
"Roger Mills" <watt.tyler@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:7hk5ugF2uc5r2U1@mid.individual.net...
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Nick <not.known@here.com.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> One small problem, (and it might my screen resolution for webpages)
>> The first graphic you've included in the guide "Manage API Control"
>> overlaps the last two paragraphs following;
>> "Now we have what we need this is what to do.
>> Install Skype. Set up an account lets call it MySkypeGateway for this
>> exercise".
>>
> Yes, I noticed the same. [I think it happened in more than one place,
> where text was covered by a screen-shot]
>
> I wondered whether it was browser dependent (I use Firefox) and was going
> to try it with a different browser, but haven't yet got round to it.
>
> It's all good stuff - albeit totally new to me - so, in addition to the
> nuts and bolts of how to set it up, I could do with a bit more explanation
> of exactly what it sets out to achieve, along the lines of . . .
> "When you want to make a call, you dial it on XXX and it gets routed via
> YYY and ZZZ and you get charged NNN"
>
> "When someone wants to call you, they dial XXX and it is received by YYY
> which diverts it to ZZZ so that your Skype phone rings" or whatever. [It
> sounds like there are more steps than this, but you can probably see what
> I mean. The routing may well be implicit in what has already been written,
> but it needs to be a bit more explicit for the likes of me!]
I've added a couple of lines after the introduction.
Any call to the Skype client on the gateway PC is auto-answered immediately
with a dial tone. You simply dial the number you want.
Incidentally, if you get to the stage that you want to test the gateway
from a conventional Skype application on another PC or PDA,
you don't use the normal Skype keypad, there is a smaller DTMF
keypad selectable from a menu obtained by clicking the little arrow
icon immediately to the right of the volume slider.
"Graham." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Nick" <not.known@here.com.uk> wrote in message
> news:tV0tm.269482$156.118820@newsfe14.ams2...
> >
> > "Graham." <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > news:h8uhea$o24$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>
> >>
> >> "Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
> >> news:mn.84457d9958b5398e.88534@blueyonder.invalid. ..
> >> > Graham. explained :
> >> >> The whole thing sounds a bit complex, but really it isn't. I have
been
> >> >> considering putting a step-by-step guide on a webpage, would you
> >> >> be interested?
> >> >
> >> > Yep.
> >>
> >> http://crx.netfirms.com/
> >> Rough draft
> >>
> >> --
> >> Graham.
> >>
> >> %Profound_observation%
> >>
> >>
> > Great stuff Graham.
> >
> > One small problem, (and it might my screen resolution for webpages)
> > The first graphic you've included in the guide "Manage API Control"
> > overlaps the last two paragraphs following;
> > "Now we have what we need this is what to do.
> > Install Skype. Set up an account lets call it MySkypeGateway for this
> > exercise".
> >
> > I hope I've made myself clear, and if it is my resolution at fault,
could
> > you please send the last two paragraphs before the "Manage API Control"
> > to the NG.
> >
> > Cheers and nice work.
>
> Thanks Nick, it was only the most signigicant part of the whole thing,
> Sods law a suppose. I haven't done a site like this for yonks, and I'm
> using Publisher fore the first time rather than Front Page. There seems to
> be
> a limit to how much text you can type in a text box. Seems OK now and
> hope it makes more sense
>
> --
> Graham.
>
> %Profound_observation%
>
>
Thanks for doing the update, but still experiencing some overlapping.
However, this IS browser dependant, i.e. Firefox.
I fired up an old machine and viewed the site with MicroShaft, all is
presented fine.
Siemens S685IP handset - configuring a pause (was: Re: Using multipleVOIP providers?)
Nigel wrote:
> You don't have to use the 0845 just use:-
> 0207 983 9388. which I think is just a local number.
Thanks for all the replies - very helpful. Due to the availability of a
geographic number, in the interests of time and not overcomplicating
matters in Fresher's Week we decided to go with the default 'freewire'
option (when she finally gets round to getting her net access
authorised, we'll find out if it works...)
Follow-up question...!
Anyone know if it's possible to configure a pause into my Siemens S685IP
(S68H) voip handset? I need to be able to save a long freewire account
number to be dialled after the landline number, for this system to be
viable in practice. No mention of this facility in the phone's
instructions, and google ain't helping either.
Re: Siemens S685IP handset - configuring a pause (was: Re: Using multiple VOIP providers?)
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:21:48 UTC, Lobster
<davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Anyone know if it's possible to configure a pause into my Siemens S685IP
> (S68H) voip handset? I need to be able to save a long freewire account
> number to be dialled after the landline number, for this system to be
> viable in practice. No mention of this facility in the phone's
> instructions, and google ain't helping either.
On my S45 If I hold down R it produces a P. Suspect that is pause.
Re: Siemens S685IP handset - configuring a pause (was: Re: Using multiple VOIP providers?)
Dave Saville laid this down on his screen :
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:21:48 UTC, Lobster
> <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Anyone know if it's possible to configure a pause into my Siemens S685IP
>> (S68H) voip handset? I need to be able to save a long freewire account
>> number to be dialled after the landline number, for this system to be
>> viable in practice. No mention of this facility in the phone's
>> instructions, and google ain't helping either.
>
> On my S45 If I hold down R it produces a P. Suspect that is pause.
>
> HTH
I don't have one ot hand....but that could easily be a P for Pulse...
Re: Siemens S685IP handset - configuring a pause (was: Re: Using multiple VOIP providers?)
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:25:06 UTC, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
wrote:
> Dave Saville laid this down on his screen :
> > On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:21:48 UTC, Lobster
> > <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Anyone know if it's possible to configure a pause into my Siemens S685IP
> >> (S68H) voip handset? I need to be able to save a long freewire account
> >> number to be dialled after the landline number, for this system to be
> >> viable in practice. No mention of this facility in the phone's
> >> instructions, and google ain't helping either.
> >
> > On my S45 If I hold down R it produces a P. Suspect that is pause.
> >
> > HTH
>
> I don't have one ot hand....but that could easily be a P for Pulse...
>
>
Dave Saville wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:21:48 UTC, Lobster
> <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Anyone know if it's possible to configure a pause into my Siemens S685IP
>> (S68H) voip handset? I need to be able to save a long freewire account
>> number to be dialled after the landline number, for this system to be
>> viable in practice. No mention of this facility in the phone's
>> instructions, and google ain't helping either.
>
> On my S45 If I hold down R it produces a P. Suspect that is pause.
It certainly is - excellent! (WTF isn't that documented in the
extensive user manual, or even on the Siemens website as far as I can
see?!)
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:07:43 UTC, Lobster
<davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dave Saville wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:21:48 UTC, Lobster
> > <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Anyone know if it's possible to configure a pause into my Siemens S685IP
> >> (S68H) voip handset? I need to be able to save a long freewire account
> >> number to be dialled after the landline number, for this system to be
> >> viable in practice. No mention of this facility in the phone's
> >> instructions, and google ain't helping either.
> >
> > On my S45 If I hold down R it produces a P. Suspect that is pause.
>
> It certainly is - excellent! (WTF isn't that documented in the
> extensive user manual, or even on the Siemens website as far as I can
> see?!)
>
> Now working a treat.
Glad to help. On my S450IP it is mentioned under the R key on the
picture of the handset with all the labels showing what does what.
--
Regards
Dave Saville
Re: Siemens S685IP handset - configuring a pause (was: Re: Using multiple VOIP providers?)
"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.bc157d991f16147c.88534@blueyonder.invalid. ..
> Dave Saville laid this down on his screen :
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:21:48 UTC, Lobster
>> <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Anyone know if it's possible to configure a pause into my Siemens S685IP
>>> (S68H) voip handset? I need to be able to save a long freewire account
>>> number to be dialled after the landline number, for this system to be
>>> viable in practice. No mention of this facility in the phone's
>>> instructions, and google ain't helping either.
>>
>> On my S45 If I hold down R it produces a P. Suspect that is pause.
>>
>> HTH
>
> I don't have one ot hand....but that could easily be a P for Pulse...
As in loop disconnect dial?
I can't imagine how you would implement that on a IP phone.
Re: Siemens S685IP handset - configuring a pause (was: Re: Using multiple VOIP providers?)
It happens that Graham. formulated :
>
> "Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
> news:mn.bc157d991f16147c.88534@blueyonder.invalid. ..
>> Dave Saville laid this down on his screen :
>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:21:48 UTC, Lobster <davidlobsterpot601@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Anyone know if it's possible to configure a pause into my Siemens S685IP
>>>> (S68H) voip handset? I need to be able to save a long freewire account
>>>> number to be dialled after the landline number, for this system to be
>>>> viable in practice. No mention of this facility in the phone's
>>>> instructions, and google ain't helping either.
>>>
>>> On my S45 If I hold down R it produces a P. Suspect that is pause.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>
>> I don't have one ot hand....but that could easily be a P for Pulse...
>
> As in loop disconnect dial?
> I can't imagine how you would implement that on a IP phone.
Lobster a écrit :
> Daughter is shortly off to uni for the first time and will be living in
> a uni flat wired with internet.
>
> The Uni is plugging the use of internet telephony, and is advising the
> use of their preferred system, 'Freewire'. Looking at its website at
> http://www.freewiretv.com/phonefaqs.html#1 as far as I can tell this
> looks pants, as for me to ring her from my landline, I'll need to dial
> an 0844 number (ie so-called 'lo-call'!! rates) and then enter her ID
> number. Anyone know anything about this system?
>
> I personally use a sipgate system (sometimes) which gives me an ordinary
> geographic number for incoming calls, so I'd rather set her up with
> that, especially as my ordinary landline gives me free calls to
> geographic numbers. However, I'm guessing that if the uni is plugging
> this freewire thing, most other campus users will be on that, so to
> obtain free calls to them she'll need to stick with that system.
>
> And now she tells me that all her mates from school are using 'Skype',
> so that's a third bloody system which she'll need to keep in contact
> with them!
>
> Is it possible to have multiple voip providers all running at once, or
> will they conflict horribly or something? Don't know much about voip,
> TBH - any thoughts very welcome...
>
> David
>
>
>
I have two wifi phones that can both work with multiple voip accounts.
My prefered one is made by a Chinese (I think) company called E28. It is
extremely sensitive, so it can be used with fairly weak wifi. I picked
it up for peanuts )about 20 euros) on the French Ebay website, because
the French ISP "Neuf" sold them as a hybrid wifi/GSM phone. Neuf
stopped the service when they were taken over, so the users are stuck
with the handsets. But it is an easy matter to re-install the original
E28 firmware.
Once this is done, you can manually enter several (I don't know what the
max number is, as I only have three) VOIP accounts, but not Skype. Then
anytime you're in range of a wifi hotspot, you select which voip account
or GSM on the calls you dial out.
"Salvador Freemanson" <spam@gohome.com> wrote in message
news:4ad35eae$0$16771$426a34cc@news.free.fr...
> Lobster a écrit :
>> Daughter is shortly off to uni for the first time and will be
>> living in a uni flat wired with internet.
>>
>> The Uni is plugging the use of internet telephony, and is
>> advising the use of their preferred system, 'Freewire'.
>> Looking at its website at
>> http://www.freewiretv.com/phonefaqs.html#1 as far as I can
>> tell this looks pants, as for me to ring her from my landline,
>> I'll need to dial an 0844 number (ie so-called 'lo-call'!!
>> rates) and then enter her ID number. Anyone know anything
>> about this system?
>>
>> I personally use a sipgate system (sometimes) which gives me
>> an ordinary geographic number for incoming calls, so I'd
>> rather set her up with that, especially as my ordinary
>> landline gives me free calls to geographic numbers. However,
>> I'm guessing that if the uni is plugging this freewire thing,
>> most other campus users will be on that, so to obtain free
>> calls to them she'll need to stick with that system.
>>
>> And now she tells me that all her mates from school are using
>> 'Skype', so that's a third bloody system which she'll need to
>> keep in contact with them!
>>
>> Is it possible to have multiple voip providers all running at
>> once, or will they conflict horribly or something? Don't know
>> much about voip, TBH - any thoughts very welcome...
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> I have two wifi phones that can both work with multiple voip
> accounts.
> My prefered one is made by a Chinese (I think) company called
> E28. It is extremely sensitive, so it can be used with fairly
> weak wifi. I picked it up for peanuts )about 20 euros) on the
> French Ebay website, because the French ISP "Neuf" sold them
> as a hybrid wifi/GSM phone. Neuf stopped the service when they
> were taken over, so the users are stuck with the handsets. But
> it is an easy matter to re-install the original E28 firmware.
> Once this is done, you can manually enter several (I don't know
> what the max number is, as I only have three) VOIP accounts,
> but not Skype. Then
> anytime you're in range of a wifi hotspot, you select which
> voip account or GSM on the calls you dial out.
(a) It's unlikely that there will be any wi-fi on a University
net - too much chance of outside interference.
(b) It IS likely that the network controller will have blocked
access to any other VoIP provider to give their supplier the
upper hand.
Using multiple VOIP providers? 
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