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Old 07-25-2007, 02:19 PM
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All my calls on voip.co.uk are going one-way audio/dropping today and now I
cant get to their website - anyone else having problems?


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Old 07-25-2007, 03:35 PM
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"Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> All my calls on voip.co.uk are going one-way audio/dropping today and now
> I cant get to their website - anyone else having problems?
>

Working fine for me.



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Old 07-25-2007, 03:37 PM
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"Phil" <nospam@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:B5Ipi.2843$vi3.2101@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>> All my calls on voip.co.uk are going one-way audio/dropping today and now
>> I cant get to their website - anyone else having problems?
>>

> Working fine for me.
>

Website is also working fine for me also. Maybe it's something to do with
your ISP?



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Old 07-25-2007, 03:45 PM
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:19:29 GMT, "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>All my calls on voip.co.uk are going one-way audio/dropping today and now I
>cant get to their website - anyone else having problems?


No problems here.

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Old 07-25-2007, 06:14 PM
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"Phil" <nospam@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Phil" <nospam@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:46a75fc1$0$24752$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
>> "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:B5Ipi.2843$vi3.2101@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>>> All my calls on voip.co.uk are going one-way audio/dropping today and
>>> now I cant get to their website - anyone else having problems?
>>>

>> Working fine for me.
>>

> Website is also working fine for me also. Maybe it's something to do with
> your ISP?
>

website came back after 10 minutes. ISP wont be a problem for much longer -
Virgin's move to 20MB was so awful I'm back to ADSL next week :-)


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Old 07-25-2007, 07:05 PM
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Roger wrote:
> All my calls on voip.co.uk are going one-way audio/dropping today and
> now I cant get to their website - anyone else having problems?


I bet a pound to a penny you are using Virgin Media !

One way audio is one of the joys of VOIP when the data is going through
a dodgy route. Namely Virgin Media's network of non-existent capacity.

During the day I have to completely shut down my cable modem to force
everything over ADSL otherwise we are limited to a single VOIP line with
2 way comms and a 2nd line with one way or non existent audio.

The Had it twice earlier in the year with voipfone.co.uk when Virgin
Media were actually capable of routing traffic. Those times were caused
by a damaged fibre on B.T. 's side of things.

Been fine since then up untill Virgin Media introduced a "theoretical"
20Mbps service and lumped the Blueyonder, NTL & Virgin.net networks all
into one un-happy family. I guess trying to save costs on data pipes.

If you want a reliable voip service you need a decvent I.S.P of which
Virgin Media will never be until the big sell off and the purchasers
realise the need for network investment.

Of course... if you're not with Virgin Media I will look a bit of a prat.

:¬)

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Old 07-25-2007, 07:13 PM
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Roger wrote:

> website came back after 10 minutes. ISP wont be a problem for much
> longer - Virgin's move to 20MB was so awful I'm back to ADSL next week :-)


Who are you going ADSL with Roger?

I'm sizing up the various options for my main service providers.
Currently using my back-up ADSL provider which is Enta.net

I have a man who's going to find out from the inside how Sky are coping
but as the local exchange here is LLU with Easynet(Sky) I should be able
to get around 20Mbps unlimited on the Skymax option as the exchange is
about 30 metres away as the crow flies.

:¬)

Interested in your preferred choice over Virgin.

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Old 07-26-2007, 06:45 AM
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"GymRatZ" <bigone@gymratz.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Roger wrote:
>
>> website came back after 10 minutes. ISP wont be a problem for much
>> longer - Virgin's move to 20MB was so awful I'm back to ADSL next week
>> :-)

>
> Who are you going ADSL with Roger?
>
> I'm sizing up the various options for my main service providers.
> Currently using my back-up ADSL provider which is Enta.net
>
> I have a man who's going to find out from the inside how Sky are coping
> but as the local exchange here is LLU with Easynet(Sky) I should be able
> to get around 20Mbps unlimited on the Skymax option as the exchange is
> about 30 metres away as the crow flies.
>
> :¬)
>
> Interested in your preferred choice over Virgin.
>

My preferred choice would be sky as it would only cost me £10 :-) but my
exchange isnt LLU enabled - presumably as most people in the area have VM
(my house doesnt even have a BT cable until tomorrow) so I've gone with BT
broadband - I'm sure their CS isnt brilliant but they seem to come out tops
of ADSL surveys and you get free evening and weekend calls with the
broadband talk service in the bundle.


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Old 07-26-2007, 06:45 AM
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<mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:14:59 GMT, "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Phil" <nospam@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:46a7600e$0$31717$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk. ..
>>>
>>> "Phil" <nospam@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:46a75fc1$0$24752$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>>> "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:B5Ipi.2843$vi3.2101@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>>>>> All my calls on voip.co.uk are going one-way audio/dropping today and
>>>>> now I cant get to their website - anyone else having problems?
>>>>>
>>>> Working fine for me.
>>>>
>>> Website is also working fine for me also. Maybe it's something to do
>>> with
>>> your ISP?
>>>

>>website came back after 10 minutes. ISP wont be a problem for much
>>longer -
>>Virgin's move to 20MB was so awful I'm back to ADSL next week :-)

>
> I am back with VM after a short spell on ADSL and never get below the
> 20 MB day or night think the service you get must depend on the
> engineers in a customers particular region .

well you're very VERY lucky. I had a near perfect 10MB service which has
gone completely to pot. From the VM newsgroups this seems to have happened
to many people but you're right others have got a great 20MB service. For
£37 a month Im not prepared to put up with the uncertainty and I dont
download huge files so 4MB ADSL is fine for me.


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Old 07-26-2007, 08:09 AM
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"Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > I am back with VM after a short spell on ADSL and never get below the
> > 20 MB day or night think the service you get must depend on the
> > engineers in a customers particular region .

> well you're very VERY lucky. I had a near perfect 10MB service which has
> gone completely to pot. From the VM newsgroups this seems to have happened
> to many people but you're right others have got a great 20MB service. For
> £37 a month Im not prepared to put up with the uncertainty and I dont
> download huge files so 4MB ADSL is fine for me.


The poster (one of his pseudonyms) you are replying to seems to change his
ISP every time the wind changes direction. No doubt he will find fault with
VM before long and will be on the move again.

;-)

Rob



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Old 07-26-2007, 08:30 AM
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Roger wrote:
>
> "GymRatZ" <bigone@gymratz.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:npMpi.4121$By5.1321@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> Roger wrote:
>>
>>> website came back after 10 minutes. ISP wont be a problem for much
>>> longer - Virgin's move to 20MB was so awful I'm back to ADSL next
>>> week :-)

>>
>> Who are you going ADSL with Roger?
>>
>> I'm sizing up the various options for my main service providers.
>> Currently using my back-up ADSL provider which is Enta.net
>>
>> I have a man who's going to find out from the inside how Sky are
>> coping but as the local exchange here is LLU with Easynet(Sky) I
>> should be able to get around 20Mbps unlimited on the Skymax option as
>> the exchange is about 30 metres away as the crow flies.
>>
>> :¬)
>>
>> Interested in your preferred choice over Virgin.
>>

> My preferred choice would be sky as it would only cost me £10 :-) but my
> exchange isnt LLU enabled - presumably as most people in the area have
> VM (my house doesnt even have a BT cable until tomorrow) so I've gone
> with BT broadband - I'm sure their CS isnt brilliant but they seem to
> come out tops of ADSL surveys and you get free evening and weekend calls
> with the broadband talk service in the bundle.

Yes and if you get a 2700 router (made by 2wire) you have quite a lot of
control over the system.

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Old 07-26-2007, 08:34 AM
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mymail@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 17:14:59 GMT, "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Phil" <nospam@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:46a7600e$0$31717$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>> "Phil" <nospam@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:46a75fc1$0$24752$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>>> "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:B5Ipi.2843$vi3.2101@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>>>>> All my calls on voip.co.uk are going one-way audio/dropping today and
>>>>> now I cant get to their website - anyone else having problems?
>>>>>
>>>> Working fine for me.
>>>>
>>> Website is also working fine for me also. Maybe it's something to do with
>>> your ISP?
>>>

>> website came back after 10 minutes. ISP wont be a problem for much longer -
>> Virgin's move to 20MB was so awful I'm back to ADSL next week :-)

>
> I am back with VM after a short spell on ADSL and never get below the
> 20 MB day or night think the service you get must depend on the
> engineers in a customers particular region .

I was with Pipex for several years then moved to VM, but the 'service'
went from bad to worse so I am now with the Sky £5 package. After
initial flakiness, this has settled down into a very usable service
that suites me (and the price is right<g>)

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Old 07-26-2007, 12:11 PM
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:45:21 +0100, Brian <rates11@nospam.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:19:29 GMT, "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>All my calls on voip.co.uk are going one-way audio/dropping today and now I
>>cant get to their website - anyone else having problems?

>
>No problems here.

I am with VM, Telewest area. I don't get any problems. However, during
the speed update process, that they did some time ago, I got lots of
voip problems. This occurred in the run up to my particular area being
updated and lasted for at least a month. Calls would drop, call
quality would diminish etc. etc.
It could be simply that VM are doing some updating.
I would imagine that they will increase the base speed from 2MB/s to
at least 4MB/s within the next 12 months. If they don't many people on
the base level, some currently paying the £10/month introductory(or
negotiated) price, will be asking why they should pay £18/month when
they can have Tiscali 'up to 8Mb/s' for £15/month with phone line and
some calls thrown in.


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mymail@hotmail.com wrote:
> I am back with VM after a short spell on ADSL and never get below the
> 20 MB day or night think the service you get must depend on the
> engineers in a customers particular region .


It should be remembered that VM is an amalgamation of assorted local
cablecos. Some installed a decent network, some didn't. Of course some
faults will be with upstream too. But it's well worth comparing with people
in your local area. For example here in South Cambridge we rarely have
problems (have about one fault a year) but people in North Cambridge seem to
have much more trouble. Both were originally installed by Cambridge Cable,
but obviously something went wrong in North Cambridge.

Theo
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:56 PM
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"Theo Markettos" <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
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> mymail@hotmail.com wrote:
>> I am back with VM after a short spell on ADSL and never get below the
>> 20 MB day or night think the service you get must depend on the
>> engineers in a customers particular region .

>
> It should be remembered that VM is an amalgamation of assorted local
> cablecos. Some installed a decent network, some didn't. Of course some
> faults will be with upstream too. But it's well worth comparing with
> people
> in your local area. For example here in South Cambridge we rarely have
> problems (have about one fault a year) but people in North Cambridge seem
> to
> have much more trouble. Both were originally installed by Cambridge
> Cable,
> but obviously something went wrong in North Cambridge.
>
> Theo
> (on 2Mbit)

Well Im in south cambridge and the service for the past 3 weeks has been
terrible - admittedly before that it was fine


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"Theo Markettos" <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
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> mymail@hotmail.com wrote:
> > I am back with VM after a short spell on ADSL and never get below

the
> > 20 MB day or night think the service you get must depend on the
> > engineers in a customers particular region .

>
> It should be remembered that VM is an amalgamation of assorted local
> cablecos. Some installed a decent network, some didn't. Of course

some
> faults will be with upstream too. But it's well worth comparing

with people
> in your local area. For example here in South Cambridge we rarely

have
> problems (have about one fault a year) but people in North Cambridge

seem to
> have much more trouble. Both were originally installed by Cambridge

Cable,
> but obviously something went wrong in North Cambridge.
>



Took the words out of my mouth. Here in sunny HG I've had only three
significant outages in almost six (or is it seven?) years and a few -
perhaps five or six - short periods of downtime. For significant read
>12 hours, for short read <3hrs.


I'm on 4Mb but in the quiet hours - like 0600-0800, especially at
weekends - I can regularly get 6.5-7Mb without problem.

People in Leeds however seem to moan a lot, whereas those in York,
like HG, do not. All was installed by Bell Cablemedia (which I think
may have been Jones before that.) Perhaps the head end is something to
do with it as (I believe) HG is fed from York.


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Old 07-27-2007, 01:08 PM
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mymail@hotmail.com wrote:
> Could your problems in someway be associated with the large amount of
> water that as fallen out of the sky just recently ? but if that where
> the case it should have showing on the status page by now .


We haven't had that much rain in the last two weeks... normal autumn/winter
standards. I've been away recently and am also having some teething
troubles with my new router so I think I'll refrain from comment about
Cambridge NTL recently. Some are DNS related, so they /may/ be a result of
NTL's new DNS proxies, or maybe just my BIND setup is poor, or my wireless
is flaky.

Theo

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Old 07-27-2007, 01:54 PM
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<mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 13:56:05 GMT, "Roger" <roger_barrett@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Theo Markettos" <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
>>news:fvp*rKIQr@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk...
>>> mymail@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>> I am back with VM after a short spell on ADSL and never get below the
>>>> 20 MB day or night think the service you get must depend on the
>>>> engineers in a customers particular region .
>>>
>>> It should be remembered that VM is an amalgamation of assorted local
>>> cablecos. Some installed a decent network, some didn't. Of course some
>>> faults will be with upstream too. But it's well worth comparing with
>>> people
>>> in your local area. For example here in South Cambridge we rarely have
>>> problems (have about one fault a year) but people in North Cambridge
>>> seem
>>> to
>>> have much more trouble. Both were originally installed by Cambridge
>>> Cable,
>>> but obviously something went wrong in North Cambridge.
>>>
>>> Theo
>>> (on 2Mbit)

>>Well Im in south cambridge and the service for the past 3 weeks has been
>>terrible - admittedly before that it was fine

>
> Could your problems in someway be associated with the large amount of
> water that as fallen out of the sky just recently ? but if that where
> the case it should have showing on the status page by now .


despite being in the lowest lying part of the country we havent been
affected by the floods at all.


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