It seems like the voip.co.uk £20pa package will suit us fine
(on 2mb ADSL) and they seem a nice company to deal with, which is very
important. However their ATA, the *MTA V102* which is some sort of
generic, will only allow one VOIP provider at a time. Is this a
problem? Supposing at a later date we wanted to add another provider
etc?
Which ATA would you recommend, bearing in mind that currently we only
want the free 01 and 02 calls, as none of the other VOIP providers can
currently beat 18185 etc for non geographical calls/mobiles?
Don't want to get stuck with an initial purchase, and regret it later
on.
Want an ATA so that we can plug a phone in and use it as a normal
phone, rather then headsets etc.
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:19:05 GMT, Brian <rates11@nospam.com> wrote:
>It seems like the voip.co.uk £20pa package will suit us fine
>(on 2mb ADSL) and they seem a nice company to deal with, which is very
>important. However their ATA, the *MTA V102* which is some sort of
>generic, will only allow one VOIP provider at a time. Is this a
>problem? Supposing at a later date we wanted to add another provider
>etc?
>
>Which ATA would you recommend, bearing in mind that currently we only
>want the free 01 and 02 calls, as none of the other VOIP providers can
>currently beat 18185 etc for non geographical calls/mobiles?
>
>Don't want to get stuck with an initial purchase, and regret it later
>on.
>
>Want an ATA so that we can plug a phone in and use it as a normal
>phone, rather then headsets etc.
>
>TIA
1. Do you have a standard landline that you wish to use in conjunction
with voip?
2. Do you already have a router?
Answer
(1) Yes/No
(2) No
Go for a Fritzbox 7140 or 7050
(or similar without wireless)
Answer
(1) Yes
(2) Yes
Go for a Linksys 3102
Answer
(1)No
(2) Yes
Go for a Linksys SPA-1001 or similar
Where to shop?
NOT Ebay !
Feed model numbers into Froogle
or
check out
broadbandstuff.co.uk
Avoid any product that is locked to a particular operator.
Some operators just have their boxes pre-configured and not locked -
check.
If you don't want to set up your box then you will have to go for one
from the operator concerned.
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On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:00:54 GMT, Brian A
<no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:19:05 GMT, Brian <rates11@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>It seems like the voip.co.uk £20pa package will suit us fine
>>(on 2mb ADSL) and they seem a nice company to deal with, which is very
>>important. However their ATA, the *MTA V102* which is some sort of
>>generic, will only allow one VOIP provider at a time. Is this a
>>problem? Supposing at a later date we wanted to add another provider
>>etc?
>>
>>Which ATA would you recommend, bearing in mind that currently we only
>>want the free 01 and 02 calls, as none of the other VOIP providers can
>>currently beat 18185 etc for non geographical calls/mobiles?
>>
>>Don't want to get stuck with an initial purchase, and regret it later
>>on.
>>
>>Want an ATA so that we can plug a phone in and use it as a normal
>>phone, rather then headsets etc.
>>
>>TIA
>1. Do you have a standard landline that you wish to use in conjunction
>with voip?
Not sure what you mean there. I do have a BT line, but why would that
matter?
>2. Do you already have a router?
Yes, a Netgear DG834 (wired)
Does that affect the following answers?
>Answer
> (1) Yes/No
>(2) No
>Go for a Fritzbox 7140 or 7050
>(or similar without wireless)
>
>Answer
>(1) Yes
>(2) Yes
>Go for a Linksys 3102
>
>Answer
>(1)No
>(2) Yes
>Go for a Linksys SPA-1001 or similar
>
>
>
>Where to shop?
>NOT Ebay !
>Feed model numbers into Froogle
>or
>check out
>broadbandstuff.co.uk
>
>Avoid any product that is locked to a particular operator.
>Some operators just have their boxes pre-configured and not locked -
>check.
>
>If you don't want to set up your box then you will have to go for one
>from the operator concerned.
Brian wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:00:54 GMT, Brian A
> <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:19:05 GMT, Brian <rates11@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It seems like the voip.co.uk £20pa package will suit us fine
>>> (on 2mb ADSL) and they seem a nice company to deal with, which is
>>> very important. However their ATA, the *MTA V102* which is some
>>> sort of generic, will only allow one VOIP provider at a time. Is
>>> this a problem? Supposing at a later date we wanted to add another
>>> provider etc?
>>>
>>> Which ATA would you recommend, bearing in mind that currently we
>>> only want the free 01 and 02 calls, as none of the other VOIP
>>> providers can currently beat 18185 etc for non geographical
>>> calls/mobiles?
>>>
>>> Don't want to get stuck with an initial purchase, and regret it
>>> later on.
>>>
>>> Want an ATA so that we can plug a phone in and use it as a normal
>>> phone, rather then headsets etc.
>>>
>>> TIA
>
>> 1. Do you have a standard landline that you wish to use in
>> conjunction with voip?
>
> Not sure what you mean there. I do have a BT line, but why would that
> matter?
>
It matters in that you can get an ATA that not only lets you use the
connected phones for VoIP but you can use the same connected phones for
PSTN calls.
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:49:08 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
<bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>Brian wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:00:54 GMT, Brian A
>> <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:19:05 GMT, Brian <rates11@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems like the voip.co.uk £20pa package will suit us fine
>>>> (on 2mb ADSL) and they seem a nice company to deal with, which is
>>>> very important. However their ATA, the *MTA V102* which is some
>>>> sort of generic, will only allow one VOIP provider at a time. Is
>>>> this a problem? Supposing at a later date we wanted to add another
>>>> provider etc?
>>>>
>>>> Which ATA would you recommend, bearing in mind that currently we
>>>> only want the free 01 and 02 calls, as none of the other VOIP
>>>> providers can currently beat 18185 etc for non geographical
>>>> calls/mobiles?
>>>>
>>>> Don't want to get stuck with an initial purchase, and regret it
>>>> later on.
>>>>
>>>> Want an ATA so that we can plug a phone in and use it as a normal
>>>> phone, rather then headsets etc.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>
>>> 1. Do you have a standard landline that you wish to use in
>>> conjunction with voip?
>>
>> Not sure what you mean there. I do have a BT line, but why would that
>> matter?
>>
>
>It matters in that you can get an ATA that not only lets you use the
>connected phones for VoIP but you can use the same connected phones for
>PSTN calls.
I see. Don't think I would necessarily use it that way, as I'd like to
keep it all separate for simplicity.
Brian has brought this to us :
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:49:08 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
> <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Brian wrote:
>>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:00:54 GMT, Brian A
>>> <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:19:05 GMT, Brian <rates11@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It seems like the voip.co.uk £20pa package will suit us fine
>>>>> (on 2mb ADSL) and they seem a nice company to deal with, which is
>>>>> very important. However their ATA, the *MTA V102* which is some
>>>>> sort of generic, will only allow one VOIP provider at a time. Is
>>>>> this a problem? Supposing at a later date we wanted to add another
>>>>> provider etc?
>>>>>
>>>>> Which ATA would you recommend, bearing in mind that currently we
>>>>> only want the free 01 and 02 calls, as none of the other VOIP
>>>>> providers can currently beat 18185 etc for non geographical
>>>>> calls/mobiles?
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't want to get stuck with an initial purchase, and regret it
>>>>> later on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Want an ATA so that we can plug a phone in and use it as a normal
>>>>> phone, rather then headsets etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>
>>>> 1. Do you have a standard landline that you wish to use in
>>>> conjunction with voip?
>>>
>>> Not sure what you mean there. I do have a BT line, but why would that
>>> matter?
>>>
>>
>> It matters in that you can get an ATA that not only lets you use the
>> connected phones for VoIP but you can use the same connected phones for
>> PSTN calls.
>
> I see. Don't think I would necessarily use it that way, as I'd like to
> keep it all separate for simplicity.
You can't get much more simple than using the same phones for any
call.....
The ATA can be programmed to send 01/02 calls over VoIP, 07 calls over
your PSTN and add the 18185 prefix for you whilst sending 08 calls over
vanilla BT - or(m)any other configurations. (I'm referring to an
SPA3102, here BTW, not sure if the Fritz!Boxen can do the above)
On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:33:02 GMT, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
wrote:
>Brian has brought this to us :
>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:49:08 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
>> <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Brian wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 15:00:54 GMT, Brian A
>>>> <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:19:05 GMT, Brian <rates11@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems like the voip.co.uk £20pa package will suit us fine
>>>>>> (on 2mb ADSL) and they seem a nice company to deal with, which is
>>>>>> very important. However their ATA, the *MTA V102* which is some
>>>>>> sort of generic, will only allow one VOIP provider at a time. Is
>>>>>> this a problem? Supposing at a later date we wanted to add another
>>>>>> provider etc?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which ATA would you recommend, bearing in mind that currently we
>>>>>> only want the free 01 and 02 calls, as none of the other VOIP
>>>>>> providers can currently beat 18185 etc for non geographical
>>>>>> calls/mobiles?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't want to get stuck with an initial purchase, and regret it
>>>>>> later on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Want an ATA so that we can plug a phone in and use it as a normal
>>>>>> phone, rather then headsets etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>>> 1. Do you have a standard landline that you wish to use in
>>>>> conjunction with voip?
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what you mean there. I do have a BT line, but why would that
>>>> matter?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It matters in that you can get an ATA that not only lets you use the
>>> connected phones for VoIP but you can use the same connected phones for
>>> PSTN calls.
>>
>> I see. Don't think I would necessarily use it that way, as I'd like to
>> keep it all separate for simplicity.
>
>You can't get much more simple than using the same phones for any
>call.....
:-))
>The ATA can be programmed to send 01/02 calls over VoIP, 07 calls over
>your PSTN and add the 18185 prefix for you whilst sending 08 calls over
>vanilla BT - or(m)any other configurations. (I'm referring to an
>SPA3102, here BTW, not sure if the Fritz!Boxen can do the above)
>>
>> You can't get much more simple than using the same phones for any
>> call.....
>
> :-))
You can even wire your extensions into the ATA so, ignoring the
ethernet connection, things would be connected as follows:
BT Socket==>SPA3102==>Extension Wiring==>Phones.
That way, all your phones can access VoIP.
>> The ATA can be programmed to send 01/02 calls over VoIP, 07 calls over
>> your PSTN and add the 18185 prefix for you whilst sending 08 calls over
>> vanilla BT - or(m)any other configurations. (I'm referring to an
>> SPA3102, here BTW, not sure if the Fritz!Boxen can do the above)
>
> So you'd recommend the Linksys as well then.
> The ATA can be programmed to send 01/02 calls over VoIP, 07
> calls over your PSTN and add the 18185 prefix for you whilst
> sending 08 calls over vanilla BT - or(m)any other
> configurations. (I'm referring to an SPA3102, here BTW, not
> sure if the Fritz!Boxen can do the above)
How easy or otherwise is it to set up this? Is this what is know
as (cough - total ignorance showing) a 'call plan'?
Syd formulated on Thursday :
> Jono wrote:
>
> Excuse me jumping in here:
>
>> The ATA can be programmed to send 01/02 calls over VoIP, 07
>> calls over your PSTN and add the 18185 prefix for you whilst
>> sending 08 calls over vanilla BT - or(m)any other
>> configurations. (I'm referring to an SPA3102, here BTW, not
>> sure if the Fritz!Boxen can do the above)
>
> How easy or otherwise is it to set up this? Is this what is know
> as (cough - total ignorance showing) a 'call plan'?
>
Well, a "Dial Plan"
When you understand the syntax, they're quite logical and can be easily
adapted.
If you need help contructing one, there're plenty in here that will
assist, or in the Linksys/Sipura forums at <http://voxilla.com>
> Syd formulated on Thursday :
>> Jono wrote:
>>
>> Excuse me jumping in here:
>>
>>> The ATA can be programmed to send 01/02 calls over VoIP, 07
>>> calls over your PSTN and add the 18185 prefix for you whilst
>>> sending 08 calls over vanilla BT - or(m)any other
>>> configurations. (I'm referring to an SPA3102, here BTW, not
>>> sure if the Fritz!Boxen can do the above)
>>
>> How easy or otherwise is it to set up this? Is this what is
>> know as (cough - total ignorance showing) a 'call plan'?
>>
>
> Well, a "Dial Plan"
>
> When you understand the syntax, they're quite logical and can
> be easily adapted.
>
> If you need help contructing one, there're plenty in here that
> will assist, or in the Linksys/Sipura forums at
> <http://voxilla.com>
OK, many thanks. I use an Orchid box at present and setting that
up for several providers was not difficult. Hopefully an ATA
dialplan is no more complex.
Brian wrote:
> It seems like the voip.co.uk £20pa package will suit us fine
> (on 2mb ADSL) and they seem a nice company to deal with, which is very
> important. However their ATA, the *MTA V102* which is some sort of
> generic, will only allow one VOIP provider at a time. Is this a
> problem? Supposing at a later date we wanted to add another provider
> etc?
>
> Which ATA would you recommend, bearing in mind that currently we only
> want the free 01 and 02 calls, as none of the other VOIP providers can
> currently beat 18185 etc for non geographical calls/mobiles?
>
> Don't want to get stuck with an initial purchase, and regret it later
> on.
>
> Want an ATA so that we can plug a phone in and use it as a normal
> phone, rather then headsets etc.
>
> TIA
Check out Flexor 151 I use it with voip.co.uk and its much improved
after latest firmware upgrade.
Also as has been mentioned elsewhere in thread do get it locked to any
provider. Buy your own free can be expensive...
>Brian wrote:
>> It seems like the voip.co.uk £20pa package will suit us fine
>> (on 2mb ADSL) and they seem a nice company to deal with, which is very
>> important. However their ATA, the *MTA V102* which is some sort of
>> generic, will only allow one VOIP provider at a time. Is this a
>> problem? Supposing at a later date we wanted to add another provider
>> etc?
>>
>> Which ATA would you recommend, bearing in mind that currently we only
>> want the free 01 and 02 calls, as none of the other VOIP providers can
>> currently beat 18185 etc for non geographical calls/mobiles?
>>
>> Don't want to get stuck with an initial purchase, and regret it later
>> on.
>>
>> Want an ATA so that we can plug a phone in and use it as a normal
>> phone, rather then headsets etc.
>>
>> TIA
>Check out Flexor 151 I use it with voip.co.uk and its much improved
>after latest firmware upgrade.
Thanks
>Also as has been mentioned elsewhere in thread do get it locked to any
>provider. Buy your own free can be expensive...
Syd <me@nospam.org.uk> wrote:
> OK, many thanks. I use an Orchid box at present and setting that
> up for several providers was not difficult. Hopefully an ATA
> dialplan is no more complex.
How common is support for different SIP providers in ATAs? Do they all
support it, or only a few? I was looking at the manual for the Draytek
Vigor 2100V which seemed to suggest that the dialplan was for things like
translating 01234 567890 to bill@voip-provider.etc - in other words for
SIP-SIP calls rather than SIP-PSTN calls. There didn't seem to be multiple
places to put passwords, only the password for one provider. But maybe the
instructions are unclear?
"Theo Markettos" <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
news:oqg*9c1Pr@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk...
>
> How common is support for different SIP providers in ATAs? Do they all
> support it, or only a few? I was looking at the manual for the Draytek
> Vigor 2100V which seemed to suggest that the dialplan was for things like
> translating 01234 567890 to bill@voip-provider.etc - in other words for
> SIP-SIP calls rather than SIP-PSTN calls. There didn't seem to be
multiple
> places to put passwords, only the password for one provider. But maybe
the
> instructions are unclear?
I'm not sure about the DrayTek Vigor 2100V, but the DrayTek Vigor 2800V/VG
can handle 6 different providers. The DialPlan (Digit Map section) can then
be used to automatically route calls via different providers according to
type of call. See - http://www.support.draytek.co.uk/kb_voip_digitmap.html
Also some (all?) of the Fritz!Box range can handle multiple providers.
"Rob" <nobody@this.place.invalid> wrote in message
news:469dc282$0$1624$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>
> "Theo Markettos" <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:oqg*9c1Pr@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk...
[snip]
> I'm not sure about the DrayTek Vigor 2100V, but the DrayTek Vigor
> 2800V/VG
> can handle 6 different providers. The DialPlan (Digit Map section) can
> then
> be used to automatically route calls via different providers according
> to
> type of call. See -
> http://www.support.draytek.co.uk/kb_voip_digitmap.html
>
> Also some (all?) of the Fritz!Box range can handle multiple providers.
All Fritz!Boxes can handle up to 10 accounts which are all independent of
one another.
"Rob" <nobody@this.place.invalid> wrote in message
news:469dc282$0$1624$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> >....................................I was looking at the manual for the
Draytek
> > Vigor 2100V which seemed to suggest that the dialplan was for things
like
> > translating 01234 567890 to bill@voip-provider.etc - in other words for
> > SIP-SIP calls rather than SIP-PSTN calls. There didn't seem to be
> multiple
> > places to put passwords, only the password for one provider. But maybe
> the
> > instructions are unclear?
>
> I'm not sure about the DrayTek Vigor 2100V, but the DrayTek Vigor 2800V/VG
> can handle 6 different providers. The DialPlan (Digit Map section) can
then
> be used to automatically route calls via different providers according to
> type of call. See - http://www.support.draytek.co.uk/kb_voip_digitmap.html
Voip.Co.Uk but with which ATA? 
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