voip newbie seeks help

Hello
I am a viginmedia customer with a 20MB cable internet connection on the 12
month discounted deal. I also have a BT line. My BT bills are usually
20 -30 pounds per month for between 5-10 of calls. I am not a big telephone
user and it bugs me to pay my BT bill being such a low user. I am looking
into voip as I want to ditch BT in order to justify keeping my 20MB when the
discount expires.
Having read through the posts here, I believe I need a VOIP ATA and an
account with someone like cheapvoip.co.uk

Looking on ebay, there is quite a choice - Linksys, Cisco etc.

Could someone here recomend one that works well with virginmedia please?
I would also welcome any general help / advice on this issue.

Cheers folks,

Christine.

If you want to be able to use a cordless phone, the Linksys PAP2 is
likely to be the best to go for.

If you're not to fussy about using a cordless phone, then a Snom IP
phone would be my recommendation.

cheapvoip.co.uk are not a VoIP supplier as far as i can see! and, do you
want cheap, or good value?

after the 12 months with virgin at the discounted rate, cancel and get
the service again.... or blag a new offer from them....

"Chris Polhill" <chris.mo@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Hello
> I am a viginmedia customer with a 20MB cable internet connection on
the 12
> month discounted deal. I also have a BT line. My BT bills are
usually
> 20 -30 pounds per month for between 5-10 of calls. I am not a big
telephone
> user and it bugs me to pay my BT bill being such a low user. I am
looking
> into voip as I want to ditch BT in order to justify keeping my 20MB
when the
> discount expires.
> Having read through the posts here, I believe I need a VOIP ATA and
an
> account with someone like cheapvoip.co.uk
>
> Looking on ebay, there is quite a choice - Linksys, Cisco etc.
>
> Could someone here recomend one that works well with virginmedia
please?
> I would also welcome any general help / advice on this issue.
>
> Cheers folks,
>
> Christine.
>
>

I have Virgin (actually ntlworld) at 4Mb and use voip without problem.

On this group the consistent best voip supplier is www.voip.vo.uk You
will need to load a tenner to open the account but after that 1p/min
in UK, 2p/min anywhere in Europe. You get voicemail f.o.c.

I also have a Sipgate account - which has the advantage of giving you
a number at registration which will permit incoming calls without
credit on the account. You can also make calls to other Sipgate
users - which are free.

I started with a Sipura SPA2000 ATA and am very pleased with it. You
will however need a router to use this on your cable feed (Ethernet.)
If you don't have a router then get a SPA2102 as this sits between
your cable and your PC and has its own DHCP server (i.e. router) built
in.

The Linksys PAP2 is also a good buy.

For info Sipura were bought a while ago by Linksys: Linksys were in
turn bought by Cisco.

Ultimately the choice comes down to facilites and price, but any of
these three will do the job a treat. You will also need to buy a
telephone socket adapter as the box uses RJ11 - Maplin do them for
about 3.99

If you want help setting it up (no - it doesn't work straight out of
the box) drop me a mail off group - it took me weeks to get mine to
work, until I (accidently) found the problem.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

In message <9qtmb3lq97vnnshl4jk3it0cdnbjafcs54@4ax.com>
mymail@hotmail.com wrote:

> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:43:41 GMT, "Chris Polhill"
> <chris.mo@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
> >Could someone here recomend one that works well with virginmedia please?
> >I would also welcome any general help / advice on this issue.
>
> Just keep well away from Sipgate at all cost

Ignore this bloke, Chris, he's a notorious nutter.

Sipgate is fine.

Dave

on 09/08/2007, Dave Higton supposed :
> In message <9qtmb3lq97vnnshl4jk3it0cdnbjafcs54@4ax.com>
> mymail@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:43:41 GMT, "Chris Polhill"
>> <chris.mo@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Could someone here recomend one that works well with virginmedia please?
>>> I would also welcome any general help / advice on this issue.
>>
>> Just keep well away from Sipgate at all cost
>
> Ignore this bloke, Chris, he's a notorious nutter.
>
> Sipgate is fine.
>
> Dave

Not only that, there is no cost necessarily associated with Sipgate.

"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.4d3e7d78e7f194b3.48968@blueyonder.invalid. ..
> on 09/08/2007, Dave Higton supposed :
>> In message <9qtmb3lq97vnnshl4jk3it0cdnbjafcs54@4ax.com>
>> mymail@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:43:41 GMT, "Chris Polhill"
>>> <chris.mo@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Could someone here recomend one that works well with virginmedia
>>>> please?
>>>> I would also welcome any general help / advice on this issue.
>>>
>>> Just keep well away from Sipgate at all cost
>>
>> Ignore this bloke, Chris, he's a notorious nutter.
>>
>> Sipgate is fine.
>>
>> Dave
>
> Not only that, there is no cost necessarily associated with Sipgate.

That's certainly true if you just use Sipgate foe incoming calls,
and you get free voicemail and a free real telephone number,
any STD code you fancy.
--

Graham.
%Profound_observation%

<mymail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:22:38 +0100, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>on 09/08/2007, Dave Higton supposed :
>>> In message <9qtmb3lq97vnnshl4jk3it0cdnbjafcs54@4ax.com>
>>> mymail@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:43:41 GMT, "Chris Polhill"
>>>> <chris.mo@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Could someone here recomend one that works well with virginmedia
>>>>> please?
>>>>> I would also welcome any general help / advice on this issue.
>>>>
>>>> Just keep well away from Sipgate at all cost
>>>
>>> Ignore this bloke, Chris, he's a notorious nutter.
>>>
>>> Sipgate is fine.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>Not only that, there is no cost necessarily associated with Sipgate.
>>
> Is that all you think about "COST" what happened to buy BRITISH
> and loyalty to the British workforce, you may not have to pay THEM
> anything to sign up and get a number but if you want to make a call
> you have to pay unless you are all phoning each other and no one that
> isn't a Sipgate subscriber .

You don't have to use the same provider for i/c and o/g calls, and
the way I look at it I pay 6.5ppm to call UK mobiles and get
UK geographic numbers free. See my earlier post in this thread.
Perhaps when I win the lottery, I will be able to afford to be as
patriotic as you Ron.

--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:08:30 GMT, mymail@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:22:38 +0100, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>on 09/08/2007, Dave Higton supposed :
>>> In message <9qtmb3lq97vnnshl4jk3it0cdnbjafcs54@4ax.com>
>>> mymail@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:43:41 GMT, "Chris Polhill"
>>>> <chris.mo@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Could someone here recomend one that works well with virginmedia please?
>>>>> I would also welcome any general help / advice on this issue.
>>>>
>>>> Just keep well away from Sipgate at all cost
>>>
>>> Ignore this bloke, Chris, he's a notorious nutter.
>>>
>>> Sipgate is fine.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>>Not only that, there is no cost necessarily associated with Sipgate.
>>
>Is that all you think about "COST" what happened to buy BRITISH
>and loyalty to the British workforce,

Ha. Remind us of the last British company that showed it's customers
any loyalty?

I think those days are gone sadly.

mymail@hotmail.com formulated on Thursday :
>>>> Just keep well away from Sipgate at all cost
>>>
>>> Ignore this bloke, Chris, he's a notorious nutter.
>>>
>>> Sipgate is fine.

>> Not only that, there is no cost necessarily associated with Sipgate.
>>
> Is that all you think about "COST" what happened to buy BRITISH
> and loyalty to the British workforce, you may not have to pay THEM
> anything to sign up and get a number but if you want to make a call
> you have to pay unless you are all phoning each other and no one that
> isn't a Sipgate subscriber .

Not at all. I was simply responding to your comment "keep well away
from Sipgate at all cost"

>
> I have Virgin (actually ntlworld) at 4Mb and use voip without problem.
>
> On this group the consistent best voip supplier is www.voip.vo.uk You
> will need to load a tenner to open the account but after that 1p/min
> in UK, 2p/min anywhere in Europe. You get voicemail f.o.c.
>

I think you mean www.voip.co.uk

mymail@hotmail.com wrote:

> Is that all you think about "COST" what happened to buy BRITISH
> and loyalty to the British workforce, you may not have to pay THEM
> anything to sign up and get a number but if you want to make a call
> you have to pay unless you are all phoning each other and no one that
> isn't a Sipgate subscriber .

http://eatliver.com/vintage-ads/19.jpg

"TheMgt" <themgt@morningstar.eu.org> wrote in message
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: : mymail@hotmail.com wrote:
: :
: : : Is that all you think about "COST" what happened to
: : : buy BRITISH
: : : and loyalty to the British workforce, you may not
: : : have to pay THEM anything to sign up and get a number
: : : but if you want to make a call you have to pay unless
: : : you are all phoning each other and no one that isn't
: : : a Sipgate subscriber .
: :
: : http://eatliver.com/vintage-ads/19.jpg

Where did you get Ron's picture..?!

Ivor

"Mr Man" <mr_man_newsgroup@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> If you want to be able to use a cordless phone, the Linksys PAP2 is likely
> to be the best to go for.
>

....


> after the 12 months with virgin at the discounted rate, cancel and get the
> service again.... or blag a new offer from them....
>
>
>


Exactly Mr. Man.

A new customer only has to be an old customer that is no longer a customer
for 1 day (or less ;) ) (or has never been a customer) (for most operators,
etc.).


Best wishes,



News Reader

"News Reader" <no@email.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "Mr Man" <mr_man_newsgroup@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:f9fnuk$r9b$1@news.freedom2surf.net...
> > If you want to be able to use a cordless phone, the Linksys PAP2
is likely
> > to be the best to go for.
> >
>
> ...
>
>
> > after the 12 months with virgin at the discounted rate, cancel and
get the
> > service again.... or blag a new offer from them....
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Exactly Mr. Man.
>
> A new customer only has to be an old customer that is no longer a
customer
> for 1 day (or less ;) ) (or has never been a customer) (for most
operators,
> etc.).
>
>


Just ask for the Retentions Dept and tell them you are going to $ky
because cable is too expensive. Watch the decimal point move in your
favour...........


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com