VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
Internet(Voip)phone service plan thru wireless network,reduce phone
charges compared to standard phone services.You may roam throughout
your network while making phone calls,wherever you have Internet
access.
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
On 30 Sep 2006 18:43:25 -0700, "voiptutorial@gmail.com"
<voiptutorial@gmail.com> wrote:
>VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
Wow I didn't know you could do that - Duh
>
>Internet(Voip)phone service plan thru wireless network,reduce phone
>charges compared to standard phone services.You may roam throughout
>your network while making phone calls,wherever you have Internet
>access.
>
>http://www.flying-rugs.com/satellite...p300-phone.htm
spam
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
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Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
voiptutorial@gmail.com wrote:
> VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
>
> Internet(Voip)phone service plan thru wireless network,reduce phone
> charges compared to standard phone services.You may roam throughout
> your network while making phone calls,wherever you have Internet
> access.
>
> http://www.flying-rugs.com/satellite...p300-phone.htm
>
Where's Ivor when you need him ;-)
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
"Desk Rabbit" <spam-me-not@example.com> wrote in message
news:WLSdnfnius3NQ4LYRVnyvQ@pipex.net
> voiptutorial@gmail.com wrote:
> > VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is
> > required! Internet(Voip)phone service plan thru wireless
> > network,reduce phone charges compared to standard phone
> > services.You may roam throughout your network while
> > making phone calls,wherever you have Internet access.
> >
> > http://www.flying-rugs.com/satellite...p300-phone.htm
> >
> Where's Ivor when you need him ;-)
Who takes notice of me..? Except to tell me off, that is..?
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
<M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:5ga0i2dr3452r18ob3q3otmg00igimpurl@4ax.com
[snip]
> Exactly Ivor NO ONE pleased it 's sunk in at last,perhaps
> if you hadn't been so keen on ramming a certain none UK
> useless voip provider down everyone's throats every
> single day
I don't. I recommend a provider I find far from useless. But not every day
Ron, get your facts right.
> things may have been different plus your never
> ending going on about spammers .
Ron, just SHUT UP. The only thing I am currently going on about is YOU.
When you finally realise that NOBODY in this or any other group gives a
damn about you or anything you have to say, the world will be a better
place.
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
<M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:lch0i2t9akdeclk9qns3q5395tki18ohmc@4ax.com
> On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 22:30:20 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> > Ron, just SHUT UP. The only thing I am currently going
> > on about is YOU.
> IT WILL TAKE A MUCH BETTER MAN THAN AN OILY BIKER COME
> OLD FUDDYDUDDY RADIO HAM TO SHUP ME UP AND DON'T YOU
> FORGET IT IVOR .
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
Ofcourse you could use a Nokia N series phone, they connect to wireless
networks and the standard mobile networks so you are never out of
signal!
It's a good idea.
Ross
-----------------------
Ross Beer
Voicehost.co.uk
voiptutorial@gmail.com wrote:
> VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
>
> Internet(Voip)phone service plan thru wireless network,reduce phone
> charges compared to standard phone services.You may roam throughout
> your network while making phone calls,wherever you have Internet
> access.
>
> http://www.flying-rugs.com/satellite...p300-phone.htm
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Desk Rabbit" <spam-me-not@example.com> wrote in message
> news:WLSdnfnius3NQ4LYRVnyvQ@pipex.net
>
>>voiptutorial@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is
>>>required! Internet(Voip)phone service plan thru wireless
>>>network,reduce phone charges compared to standard phone
>>>services.You may roam throughout your network while
>>>making phone calls,wherever you have Internet access.
>>>
>>>http://www.flying-rugs.com/satellite...p300-phone.htm
>>>
>>
>>Where's Ivor when you need him ;-)
>
>
> Who takes notice of me..? Except to tell me off, that is..?
>
> Ivor
This is what I mean. You are not being even-handed. One poor sod tries
to get rid of 1 Telephony card and he is given chapter and verse and
shown the door due to what is in my opinion a dubious interpretaion of
the charter. Another comes along that is in my opinion clearly in breach
of the charter and is totally ignored.
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
news:4oava7FdobmnU1@individual.net...
> <M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:lch0i2t9akdeclk9qns3q5395tki18ohmc@4ax.com
> > On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 22:30:20 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> > <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >
< SNIP >
Just wanted to put in at least something of a positive comment for / about
Ivor.
Not everyone ignores you or finds your posts useless.
I certainly haven't found them to be soooo problematic, concerning,
disturbing, etc.
.... And often a variety of different voices in an active forum (as in
arena - rather than computer message forum!) keeps a place interesting,
alive, etc.
Anyhow, what do I know / perhaps Ivor can get a little carried away / single
subject over focused but I just wanted something of a positive post to be
given to Ivor because at the very least it is not really nice or fair, etc.
only to / just to lambaste someone.
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
"News Reader" <no@email.invalid> wrote in message
news:efqvo2$dn1$1@inews.gazeta.pl
> Just wanted to put in at least something of a positive
> comment for / about Ivor.
>
> Not everyone ignores you or finds your posts useless.
>
> I certainly haven't found them to be soooo problematic,
> concerning, disturbing, etc.
>
> ... And often a variety of different voices in an active
> forum (as in
> arena - rather than computer message forum!) keeps a
> place interesting, alive, etc.
>
> Anyhow, what do I know / perhaps Ivor can get a little
> carried away / single subject over focused but I just
> wanted something of a positive post to be given to Ivor
> because at the very least it is not really nice or fair,
> etc. only to / just to lambaste someone.
Thanks for that. Maybe I do get carried away sometimes but Ron and I have
a bit of a history with regard to his hatred of Sipgate. He had a bad
experience and is forever bringing it up, he won't let it lie. Me, if I
have a bad time with a company, which I have had recently with a certain
well known high street chain of opticians, who refused to admit they'd
overcharged me for a pair of glasses, I just write to their managing
director, telling him why I will not be using them again, and leave it at
that. I don't lambast people on newsgroups forever and a day.
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:4oava7FdobmnU1@individual.net...
>> <M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:lch0i2t9akdeclk9qns3q5395tki18ohmc@4ax.com
>> > On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 22:30:20 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
>> > <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>
> < SNIP >
>
> Just wanted to put in at least something of a positive comment for / about
> Ivor.
>
> Not everyone ignores you or finds your posts useless.
>
> I certainly haven't found them to be soooo problematic, concerning,
> disturbing, etc.
>
> ... And often a variety of different voices in an active forum (as in
> arena - rather than computer message forum!) keeps a place interesting,
> alive, etc.
>
> Anyhow, what do I know / perhaps Ivor can get a little carried away /
> single
> subject over focused but I just wanted something of a positive post to be
> given to Ivor because at the very least it is not really nice or fair,
> etc.
> only to / just to lambaste someone.
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
>
> News Reader
My 2p worth, for what it's worth, is that both parties have positive things
to contribute (and have helped me), but everyone turns off when it gets
personal. Lets have more of the same except for the feuding - it really is
a turn off.
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
<M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:6ci3i2t82vbapq4db0u9t44kcsoncv39o4@4ax.com
[snip]
> Just tell him to stuff his charter mate , newsgroup
> charters have no legal standing whatsoever my God Ivor
> would make a great jobsworth don't you think .
They may not have legal standing as such, but read the terms and
conditions of your ISP - they may well have conditions specifying
adherence to newsgroup charters.
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
"Kipper" <mynew@magicunderwater„fronts> wrote in message
news:4529dc0d.18754828@news.x-privat.org
[snip]
> We get a bit fed up with the Ivor/Ron girls handbagging
> each other.
Not half as fed up as I get, mate. But there's no way I'll let him chuck
me off the group I got created. Sorry if others are inconvenienced but I
didn't start it.
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
"cybuerke" <cybuerke@PLMgooglemail.com> wrote in message
news:eg0l15$ha$1@news.freedom2surf.net
> M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> > On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 02:45:18 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> > <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > Sorry if others are
> > > inconvenienced but I didn't start it.
> > >
> > > Ivor
> > >
> > You did by constantly shoving Sipgate at everyone here .
>
> Thast's enough from the pair of you.
>
> I deal every day with eleven year olds who show more
> maturity than either of you.
In what way have I been immature..? Defending myself against unwarranted
personal attack..? Defending a company with which I have had excellent
service..?
Sorry if that's being immature, but at least I don't blame everything on
the Nazis.
> Now stop being bloody prima donnas. Shake hands, tell
> each other thar you've both been prats, and get on with
> helping people with their problems.
I have not been a prat, except for the one time when I foolishly tried to
assist Mr. Chew. I won't make that mistake again, but I will *not* allow
myself to be defamed by him or anyone else.
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
<M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:tko7i2h60orgi6jqb0gvd7227l1r5i7vm2@4ax.com
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:14:29 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> > I have not been a prat, except for the one time when I
> > foolishly tried to assist Mr. Chew. I won't make that
> > mistake again, but I will *not* allow myself to be
> > defamed by him or anyone else.
> Sure thing Ivor you assisted me in getting involved with
> a totally unreliable and useless voip provider and for
> that you will never be forgiven . Had you mentioned at
> the time Sipgate was a German company I would not even
> have considered them no matter what you had said .
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
Ivor Jones wrote:
> <M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:tko7i2h60orgi6jqb0gvd7227l1r5i7vm2@4ax.com
>> On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:14:29 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
>> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I have not been a prat, except for the one time when I
>>> foolishly tried to assist Mr. Chew. I won't make that
>>> mistake again, but I will *not* allow myself to be
>>> defamed by him or anyone else.
>> Sure thing Ivor you assisted me in getting involved with
>> a totally unreliable and useless voip provider and for
>> that you will never be forgiven . Had you mentioned at
>> the time Sipgate was a German company I would not even
>> have considered them no matter what you had said .
>
> The website tells you that you fool.
>
> Ivor
Gawd, what have I done? Only set 'em both off again, innit?
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
cybuerke wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>> <M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:tko7i2h60orgi6jqb0gvd7227l1r5i7vm2@4ax.com
>>> On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 17:14:29 +0100, "Ivor Jones"
>>> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have not been a prat, except for the one time when I
>>>> foolishly tried to assist Mr. Chew. I won't make that
>>>> mistake again, but I will *not* allow myself to be
>>>> defamed by him or anyone else.
>>> Sure thing Ivor you assisted me in getting involved with
>>> a totally unreliable and useless voip provider and for
>>> that you will never be forgiven . Had you mentioned at
>>> the time Sipgate was a German company I would not even
>>> have considered them no matter what you had said .
>> The website tells you that you fool.
>>
>> Ivor
>
> Gawd, what have I done? Only set 'em both off again, innit?
>
> Sorry folks. <Gob zip on>
>
>
LOL!
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
"cybuerke" <cybuerke@PLMgooglemail.com> wrote in message
news:eg0q1b$44q$1@news.freedom2surf.net
[snip]
> Gawd, what have I done? Only set 'em both off again,
> innit?
Not at all. Although if you refrain from comparing me to him I might be
less likely to become annoyed.
Ask yourself two questions; One - personal conflicts aside, which one of
us has, in the time this group has existed (and remember who was
responsible for the group's creation in the first place) been of more
use..?
Two, do you really expect me to sit back and let myself be abused in
public without responding..?
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
On Wed, 2006-10-04 at 23:52 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
> "cybuerke" <cybuerke@PLMgooglemail.com> wrote in message
> news:eg0q1b$44q$1@news.freedom2surf.net
>
> [snip]
>
> > Gawd, what have I done? Only set 'em both off again,
> > innit?
>
> Not at all. Although if you refrain from comparing me to him I might be
> less likely to become annoyed.
>
> Ask yourself two questions; One - personal conflicts aside, which one of
> us has, in the time this group has existed (and remember who was
> responsible for the group's creation in the first place) been of more
> use..?
>
> Two, do you really expect me to sit back and let myself be abused in
> public without responding..?
>
>
> Ivor
>
>
Ivor, i used to support you - but you lost that respect when you flammed
me for an inappropriate reason. In that respect, i'd rather have Dexter
here. Although he moans at you on every opportunity - you entice him by
being drawn in. If you weren't here, then i am certain that these petty
squabbles would cease.
If Dexter left, you would find somebody else to have these childish
squabbles with!
cybuerke - look for a well respected brand, don't attempt to revive some
unknown brand. It may be a bargain and be cheap but it will give you
lots of hassle!
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
"Daviey" <daviey.walker@virginSPAM.network> wrote in
message news:1160058274.6607.29.camel@localhost
[snip]
> Ivor, i used to support you - but you lost that respect
> when you flammed me for an inappropriate reason. In that
> respect, i'd rather have Dexter here. Although he moans
> at you on every opportunity - you entice him by being
> drawn in. If you weren't here, then i am certain that
> these petty squabbles would cease.
Likewise if he were not here they would also cease. As regards being drawn
in, as I said above I will not allow anyone to insult me for no good
reason without responding. I don't like it any more than you do, but I
will *not* stand by and just let him get on with rubbishing both me and
Sipgate with impunity. If that upsets you, then I apologise, but tough,
the ball is firmly in his court, not mine.
BTW I note you ignored my question about who has been of more assistance
to others.
I don't recall the incident, but If I flamed you for an *invalid* reason I
apologise, which is more than you'll ever get from our friend Ron.
> If Dexter left, you would find somebody else to have
> these childish squabbles with!
Only if they persisted in insulting me for no valid reason.
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
<M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:u47ai29rfq6m6k88lc6idp3d8lqdmcckpv@4ax.com
> On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 14:21:59 GMT, Daviey
> <daviey.walker@virginSPAM.network> wrote:
>
>
> > Although he moans at you on every opportunity -
> Of course I do and with good reason and I would do the
> same with anyone else who like Ivor was incessantly
> ramming a provider down everyone's throats here, plus his
> incessant going on about spammers which only serves to
> incite spammers to spam more and more but Ivor is so
> thick he can't see this .
I don't ram Sipgate down anybody's throat - show me a post where I have
done this. I have recommended them and will continue to do so, but that
isn't "ramming down throats" as you put it.
> > If Dexter left, you would find somebody else to have
> > these childish squabbles with!
> There is nothing childish about someone who has a go at a
> person who persuades him to sign up with an outfit only
> to find that the company is not worth wasting bandwidth
> on .
To *you* - not to everybody. I'd be willing to bet Sipgate has far more
satisfied customers than not, or they wouldn't still be in business.
> I have one or two favorite providers but I am not always
> coming here and saying how good they are and persuading
> people to sign up with them unlike Ivor .
How many times have you mentioned Vonage recently then..?
> > cybuerke - look for a well respected brand, don't
> > attempt to revive some unknown brand. It may be a
> > bargain and be cheap but it will give you lots of
> > hassle!
> Cheap always proves to be nasty Sipgate being a damn good
> example with regards to voip one is much better paying a
> few quid a month service charge and getting most calls
> free .
Sounds like an oxymoron to me. Or maybe just moron.
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
Ivor Jones wrote:
> Ask yourself two questions; One - personal conflicts aside, which one
> of us has, in the time this group has existed (and remember who was
> responsible for the group's creation in the first place) been of more
> use..?
I don't know the answer to that. Since it's you that's doing the asking,
presumably the answer you expect is 'Ivor Jones'. Does that mean that you
consider yourself to be more worthy? Might that be part of the problem?
> Two, do you really expect me to sit back and let myself be abused in
> public without responding..?
>
>
> Ivor
Are you able to put your hand on your heart and tell me that your responses have
been worthwhile? It doesn't seem that way to me.
Try not responding, and see what happens. I promise you that I for one won't
think any the less of you.
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
linker3000 wrote:
> cybuerke wrote:
>> Gawd, what have I done? Only set 'em both off again, innit?
>>
>> Sorry folks. <Gob zip on>
>>
>>
> LOL!
>
> ... new around here aren't you!?
Freshish. The trouble is, they both have valid advice to give. If only they'd
stay in different corners of the playground at break time, they'd earn so much
more respect from the silent majority.
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
M.Dexter@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
>.
> Ivor can you answer yes to the following questions........
> Do Sipgate offer 24/7 support even by email including a reply from
> them 24/7? .
> Are customers able to contact them by telephone at anytime of the day
> or night?
> Do they offer FREE calls to ANY 01 or 02 numbers in the UK or to the
> rest of Europe has many providers do?.
> Do they offer a good and realizable voicemail ?.
There are plenty of phone and other companies that do not have 24-hour
phone support. So what?
Do calls fail to end when hung up, and can you be charged 2000 seconds
on a forty second call?
Do callbacks go to answerphone because the last call had not hung up?
Are they charging some calls that don't exist?
Are totally spurious calls sometimes generated, and simultaneous ones
at that?
Does the automatic credit system on the account sometimes fail to work,
and why can't CS reinstate it or take a credit over the phone when you
have no PC access?
Another provider has had all these issues, but I didn't see you mention
it. And I'm not going to either.
Anybody that has ever read anything here knows that you don't like the
company. But others do. Saying it a hundred times each will not have
any effect except boring the rest of us to death
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
"cybuerke" <cybuerke@PLMgooglemail.com> wrote in message
news:eg3ag2$l36$1@news.freedom2surf.net
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>
> > Ask yourself two questions; One - personal conflicts
> > aside, which one of us has, in the time this group has
> > existed (and remember who was responsible for the
> > group's creation in the first place) been of more use..?
>
> I don't know the answer to that. Since it's you that's
> doing the asking, presumably the answer you expect is
> 'Ivor Jones'. Does that mean that you consider yourself
> to be more worthy? Might that be part of the problem?
No, I don't think so. But answer the question, honestly. Who do *you*
think has been of more value, personal grievances aside..? In terms of
assistance offered, advice given, etc. - that and that alone please,
disregard our dispute in considering your answer.
> > Two, do you really expect me to sit back and let myself
> > be abused in public without responding..?
> Are you able to put your hand on your heart and tell me
> that your responses have been worthwhile? It doesn't
> seem that way to me.
But it's not *you* that he is insulting and degrading, it is me. My
responses are worthwhile *to me*. So yes is the answer to your question.
> Try not responding, and see what happens. I promise you
> that I for one won't think any the less of you.
I tried that once. At the beginning of this year I made a NY resolution. I
kept it for 4 months but in the end could hold out no longer. He kept on
and on rubbishing Sipgate, and I honestly do find their service to be very
good, I certainly don't have any financial interest in them, or work for
them, which Ron keeps trying to suggest I do. He keeps saying I "ram them
down people's throats" which I really don't think I do, do you think
that..? I too have providers I don't like and wouldn't recommend, but
unlike him I don't keep on saying how crap they are and comparing them to
the Nazis.
Re: VoIP Phone works like a mobile phone - no PC is required!
Ivor Jones wrote:
> "cybuerke" <cybuerke@PLMgooglemail.com> wrote in message
> news:eg3ag2$l36$1@news.freedom2surf.net
>> Ivor Jones wrote:
>>
>>> Ask yourself two questions; One - personal conflicts
>>> aside, which one of us has, in the time this group has
>>> existed (and remember who was responsible for the
>>> group's creation in the first place) been of more use..?
>>
>> I don't know the answer to that. Since it's you that's
>> doing the asking, presumably the answer you expect is
>> 'Ivor Jones'. Does that mean that you consider yourself
>> to be more worthy? Might that be part of the problem?
>
> No, I don't think so. But answer the question, honestly. Who do *you*
> think has been of more value, personal grievances aside..? In terms of
> assistance offered, advice given, etc. - that and that alone please,
> disregard our dispute in considering your answer.
I refer the gentleman to the reply that I gave earlier. I would *assume* that,
by quantity alone, that would be your goodself, but I may well have missed some
gems from the other side, so I can't *know* that.
>>> Two, do you really expect me to sit back and let myself
>>> be abused in public without responding..?
>
>> Are you able to put your hand on your heart and tell me
>> that your responses have been worthwhile? It doesn't
>> seem that way to me.
>
> But it's not *you* that he is insulting and degrading, it is me. My
> responses are worthwhile *to me*. So yes is the answer to your
> question.
Granted, it's much easier to pontificate from the sidelines. I might be a red
hot armchair referee, but that's not to say that I'm always wrong...
>> Try not responding, and see what happens. I promise you
>> that I for one won't think any the less of you.
>
> I tried that once. At the beginning of this year I made a NY
> resolution. I kept it for 4 months but in the end could hold out no
> longer.
Well done for the 4 months. He won in the end though, did he?
> He kept on and on rubbishing Sipgate, and I honestly do find
> their service to be very good, I certainly don't have any financial
> interest in them, or work for them, which Ron keeps trying to suggest
> I do. He keeps saying I "ram them down people's throats" which I
> really don't think I do, do you think that..? I too have providers I
> don't like and wouldn't recommend, but unlike him I don't keep on
> saying how crap they are and comparing them to the Nazis.
>
> Ivor
At the end of the day (I hate that expression, but what the hell) it's only
usenet. It's only a reputation. It's not life or death. The world will still
be turning tomorrow. Leastways, I hope it will be. I've places to go.
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