On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 22:49:49 +0100, Graham. wrote:
> "john reid" <terminal3@mail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ia23p7$ki8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>I have been trying to pay some more money into the voip company called
>>*voipstunt* and i get an error code 103, come up.
>>
>> when i did a search on *voipstunt error 103* there seems to be some
>> stuff about the parent company called betamax being a bid dodgy.
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> http://www.calliflower.com/2008/01/2...used-of-fraud/
>>
>> Would anyone be able to recommend another voip service please? Would
>> be very grateful for any quick recommendation as I have to make some
>> overseas calls tomorrow morning. Thanks.
>
> Depends on what countries you call.
> I would recommend smartvoip.com based on their UK mobile charge is about
> 5p/min which is considerably less than voipstunt.com
>
> Yes, they are a Betamax brand too, and yes, I have seen that fraud
> allegation before, I still contend that Betamax is amongst the best
> value for domestic users, and I can't recall a similar first-hand
> complaint in this NG in spite of many of us using them.
>
> Incidentally I would always use Paypal for this kind of service. and
> there is a 75 Eurocent admin fee which they should be clearer about.
> That is my only criticism.
>
> I seem to remember having a similar issue in getting a payment to go
> through, it was OK when I tried it later.
I have been using Betamax services for years, as have many people on this
NG. I have never heard of any allegations in relation to fraud so, from
personal experience, I would discount this.
As regards Paypal. I avoid them wherever possible. Wait while you get a
situation where you want some of the compensation they offer. My
experience with paypal has been a bad one. When I pay Betamax it is via
a credit card. You do have some protection with a Credit Card if the
vendor doesn't deliver the service etc.
Take a look at this site, not all Betamax companies are listed but you'll
find most of them. Beware that some charge a connection fee (check
carefully) and some don't use SIP. Just check out the 'Instructions' on
the web site.
http://backsla.sh/betamax
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