VoIPDiscount VoIPCheap & VoIPStunt seem to be the suggested
alternative. What I need is a VOIP provider which (like skype) I can
just pay £10 quid (or so) and top up my credit to make call. I don't
want any monthly plans as I like my freedom.
I know there are several, I'd rather just trust in your experience in
the subject to point me to the best one. If you came to alt.games.half-
life I'd do the same.
Thanks for reading
peace, love and happiness (with the occasionally bit of harmless
violence)
>VoIPDiscount VoIPCheap & VoIPStunt seem to be the suggested
>alternative. What I need is a VOIP provider which (like skype) I can
>just pay £10 quid (or so) and top up my credit to make call. I don't
>want any monthly plans as I like my freedom.
>I know there are several, I'd rather just trust in your experience in
>the subject to point me to the best one. If you came to alt.games.half-
>life I'd do the same.
VoIPDiscount VoIPCheap & VoIPStunt seem to be the suggested
alternative. What I need is a VOIP provider which (like skype) I can
just pay £10 quid (or so) and top up my credit to make call. I don't
want any monthly plans as I like my freedom.
I know there are several, I'd rather just trust in your experience in
the subject to point me to the best one. If you came to alt.games.half-
life I'd do the same.
Thanks for reading
peace, love and happiness (with the occasionally bit of harmless
violence)
Scottie
--------------
It depends what your after, if you are wanting a real number which people
can contact you on then Voipcheap etc is not for you, they provide only
outgoing service
Then if your just calling landlines especially europe wise,
voipdiscount/internetcalls are good as they give you 300 minutes per 7 days
calls and half decent call rates to mobiles.
If your going to call call mobiles a lot, www.lowratevoip.com for use with
SIP devices is pretty good and www.justvoip.com is probably the lowest at 4p
minute
>
>It depends what your after, if you are wanting a real number which people
>can contact you on then Voipcheap etc is not for you, they provide only
>outgoing service
>
>Then if your just calling landlines especially europe wise,
>voipdiscount/internetcalls are good as they give you 300 minutes per 7 days
>calls and half decent call rates to mobiles.
>
>If your going to call call mobiles a lot, www.lowratevoip.com for use with
>SIP devices is pretty good and www.justvoip.com is probably the lowest at 4p
>minute
>
voip.co.uk will provide you with a good base for £20/year. You'll get
inclusive off-peak calls and daytime calls at 2p/call - and a
geographic number. They have good reliabilty and good quality audio.
After that, if you want to use other providers for mobile or
international outgoing calls you can.
Then you need to consider what you need by way of an ATA.
Do you want to just get voip on your ATA or do you want to integrate
it with a landline?
<Clavox@lancs.no-ip.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:59:48 GMT, "acdeag"
>>Try looking at www.voip.co.uk
>>
> The best around I would say .
Not if you don't need voip-in. If you just need cheap outgoing calls,
Betamax companies are often better value, particularly for international and
mobile.
"Herman" <whhitehousemadhouse-2005@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> <Clavox@lancs.no-ip.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:jovp03turprtep8gvqj9klambsgmujam4u@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:59:48 GMT, "acdeag"
>>>Try looking at www.voip.co.uk
>>>
>> The best around I would say .
>
> Not if you don't need voip-in. If you just need cheap outgoing calls,
> Betamax companies are often better value, particularly for international
> and mobile.
The OP should consider using two different providers for OG and IC
calls, e.g. voipcheap.com and sipgate.co.uk His hardware would
have to support two accounts of course.
> "Herman" <whhitehousemadhouse-2005@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:kwgPh.45$B54.35@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
>> Not if you don't need voip-in. If you just need cheap outgoing calls,
>> Betamax companies are often better value, particularly for international
>> and mobile.
> The OP should consider using two different providers for OG and IC
> calls, e.g. voipcheap.com and sipgate.co.uk His hardware would
> have to support two accounts of course.
> It depends what your after, if you are wanting a real number which people
> can contact you on then Voipcheap etc is not for you, they provide only
> outgoing service
BUT... it is possible to get an incoming number pointing to your username@sip.voipcheap.com besides which, I would expect the majority
of users would still retain their PSTN connection for incoming calls
> Then if your just calling landlines especially europe wise,
> voipdiscount/internetcalls are good as they give you 300 minutes per 7 days
> calls and half decent call rates to mobiles.
>
> If your going to call call mobiles a lot, www.lowratevoip.com for use with
> SIP devices is pretty good and www.justvoip.com is probably the lowest at 4p
> minute
There's still nothing that can match voipcheap.com for call rates to UK
mobiles at around 6p per minute (though I'm sure that rate won't last
for ever)
<Clavox@lancs.no-ip.co.uk> wrote in message
news:jovp03turprtep8gvqj9klambsgmujam4u@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:59:48 GMT, "acdeag"
>>Try looking at www.voip.co.uk
>>
> The best around I would say .
Not if you want to make any kind of international calls,
using voip.co.uk would bankrupt me as some of the prices they have are daft,
really daft some calls can be nearly **10** times the cost of others such as
justvoip.com
Example calling Lichtenstien mobile (which as it happens a lot of globals
sims use incluidng those sold at CPW)
Just voip : £0.073
Voip.co.uk : £0.714
On a half hour call Using justvoip would save a massive £19.23
Swiss mobile which I also call a lot of is also silly at £0.551 , Justvoip :
£0.073
The biggest extreme I found which I have to admit I no need to call but find
the difference huge:
Wallis and Futuna :
Voip.co.uk: £3.011
Justvoip; £0.396
Difference on half hour call ; £78.45
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 05:18:06 +0100, "Pete @ www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
<gymratz@biggassmusclebuildingshop.gym> wrote:
>RH wrote:
>
>> It depends what your after, if you are wanting a real number which people
>> can contact you on then Voipcheap etc is not for you, they provide only
>> outgoing service
>
>BUT... it is possible to get an incoming number pointing to your
>username@sip.voipcheap.com besides which, I would expect the majority
>of users would still retain their PSTN connection for incoming calls
>
>> Then if your just calling landlines especially europe wise,
>> voipdiscount/internetcalls are good as they give you 300 minutes per 7 days
>> calls and half decent call rates to mobiles.
>>
>> If your going to call call mobiles a lot, www.lowratevoip.com for use with
>> SIP devices is pretty good and www.justvoip.com is probably the lowest at 4p
>> minute
>
>There's still nothing that can match voipcheap.com for call rates to UK
>mobiles at around 6p per minute (though I'm sure that rate won't last
>for ever)
Am I right in thinking that VoipCheap is IAX only though?
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:43:35 +0100, "RH" <rh@no-spicedham.exelsys.com>
wrote:
><Clavox@lancs.no-ip.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:jovp03turprtep8gvqj9klambsgmujam4u@4ax.com.. .
>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:59:48 GMT, "acdeag"
>>>Try looking at www.voip.co.uk
>>>
>> The best around I would say .
>
>Not if you want to make any kind of international calls,
>
>using voip.co.uk would bankrupt me as some of the prices they have are daft,
>really daft some calls can be nearly **10** times the cost of others such as
>justvoip.com
That is the reason why the majority of people on this group favour the
use of an unlocked ATA working with more than one provider. That is
the freedom you get compared to those who are locked into one system.
For those who find their particular ATA too limiting in this respect
there is Voxalot.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
On Mar 31, 5:18 am, "Pete @ www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
<gymr...@biggassmusclebuildingshop.gym> wrote:
> RH wrote:
> > It depends what your after, if you are wanting a real number which people
> > can contact you on then Voipcheap etc is not for you, they provide only
> > outgoing service
>
> BUT... it is possible to get an incoming number pointing to your
> usern...@sip.voipcheap.com besides which, I would expect the majority
> of users would still retain their PSTN connection for incoming calls
>
> > Then if your just calling landlines especially europe wise,
> > voipdiscount/internetcalls are good as they give you 300 minutes per 7 days
> > calls and half decent call rates to mobiles.
>
> > If your going to call call mobiles a lot,www.lowratevoip.comfor use with
> > SIP devices is pretty good andwww.justvoip.comis probably the lowest at 4p
> > minute
>
> There's still nothing that can match voipcheap.com for call rates to UK
> mobiles at around 6p per minute (though I'm sure that rate won't last
> for ever)
The post you quoted mentions JustVoip at 4p [5c + vat] at the moment,
though it is only two weeks old, so your remark would apply here as
well.
JV doesn't support using SIP for outgoing calls though, but some DIDs
(US but not a UK one) can be pointed at it
On Mar 31, 1:54 pm, "andy" <andy.gg...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 31, 5:18 am, "Pete @www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
>
>
>
>
>
> <gymr...@biggassmusclebuildingshop.gym> wrote:
> > RH wrote:
> > > It depends what your after, if you are wanting a real number which people
> > > can contact you on then Voipcheap etc is not for you, they provide only
> > > outgoing service
>
> > BUT... it is possible to get an incoming number pointing to your
> > usern...@sip.voipcheap.com besides which, I would expect the majority
> > of users would still retain their PSTN connection for incoming calls
>
> > > Then if your just calling landlines especially europe wise,
> > > voipdiscount/internetcalls are good as they give you 300 minutes per 7 days
> > > calls and half decent call rates to mobiles.
>
> > > If your going to call call mobiles a lot,www.lowratevoip.comforuse with
> > > SIP devices is pretty good andwww.justvoip.comisprobably the lowest at 4p
> > > minute
>
> > There's still nothing that can match voipcheap.com for call rates to UK
> > mobiles at around 6p per minute (though I'm sure that rate won't last
> > for ever)
>
> The post you quoted mentions JustVoip at 4p [5c + vat] at the moment,
> though it is only two weeks old, so your remark would apply here as
> well.
>
> JV doesn't support using SIP for outgoing calls though, but some DIDs
> (US but not a UK one) can be pointed at it- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I should correct myself: a UK DID now works to JV, after some failed
attempts the other day
Brian A wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 05:18:06 +0100, "Pete @ www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
> <gymratz@biggassmusclebuildingshop.gym> wrote:
>
>> RH wrote:
>>
>>> It depends what your after, if you are wanting a real number which
>>> people can contact you on then Voipcheap etc is not for you, they
>>> provide only outgoing service
>>
>> BUT... it is possible to get an incoming number pointing to your
>> username@sip.voipcheap.com besides which, I would expect the
>> majority of users would still retain their PSTN connection for
>> incoming calls
>>
>>> Then if your just calling landlines especially europe wise,
>>> voipdiscount/internetcalls are good as they give you 300 minutes
>>> per 7 days calls and half decent call rates to mobiles.
>>>
>>> If your going to call call mobiles a lot, www.lowratevoip.com for
>>> use with SIP devices is pretty good and www.justvoip.com is
>>> probably the lowest at 4p minute
>>
>> There's still nothing that can match voipcheap.com for call rates to
>> UK mobiles at around 6p per minute (though I'm sure that rate won't
>> last for ever)
> Am I right in thinking that VoipCheap is IAX only though?
> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
No, it's offered SIP for almost as long as it's been going, with the
newer named services offering it from day one, I use the betamax
services from a PAP2 ATA.
"RH" <rh@no-spicedham.exelsys.com> wrote in message
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>
> --------------
>
> It depends what your after, if you are wanting a real number which people
> can contact you on then Voipcheap etc is not for you, they provide only
> outgoing service
>
I've got a VoIPDiscount account that I actively use. I got it a long time
ago (when they first opened shop) and have a 0208 incoming landline number.
Have they changed their policy for new accounts now?
ts86 wrote:
> "RH" <rh@no-spicedham.exelsys.com> wrote in message
> news:euivjf$amq$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
>>
>> --------------
>>
>> It depends what your after, if you are wanting a real number which
>> people can contact you on then Voipcheap etc is not for you, they
>> provide only outgoing service
>>
>
> I've got a VoIPDiscount account that I actively use. I got it a long
> time ago (when they first opened shop) and have a 0208 incoming
> landline number. Have they changed their policy for new accounts now?
Yeah, some time back. I also have an incoming number though with sister
services, VoIP Buster, VoIP Stunt, VoIPCheap and SIP Discount (0121
numbers, except VB which is 0845).
It is possible for no fee, to point an 01 or 02 number to any of the
Betamax services.
On 30 Mar, 12:12, "Stri" <geordie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was just doing some reading up, I'm not that impressed with Skype
> and I'm looking for alternatives.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/36c2zr
>
> VoIPDiscount VoIPCheap & VoIPStunt seem to be the suggested
> alternative. What I need is a VOIP provider which (like skype) I can
> just pay £10 quid (or so) and top up my credit to make call. I don't
> want any monthly plans as I like my freedom.
>
> I know there are several, I'd rather just trust in your experience in
> the subject to point me to the best one. If you came to alt.games.half-
> life I'd do the same.
>
> Thanks for reading
>
> peace, love and happiness (with the occasionally bit of harmless
> violence)
>
> Scottie
Wow, that's a lot to think about. I don't need an incoming line but I
don't like ambiguity of voipcheap.
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> > It is possible
for no fee, to point an 01 or 02 number to any of the
> Betamax services.
Was this the one you didn't want to public post?
I have never managed to get it to work using Voxalot which was the obvious
way. Go on, give us a clue!
Herman wrote:
> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> > It is
> possible for no fee, to point an 01 or 02 number to any of the
>> Betamax services.
> Was this the one you didn't want to public post?
>
Yes.
> I have never managed to get it to work using Voxalot which was the
> obvious way. Go on, give us a clue!
A simple email request is all that is needed, other people have been
happy.
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:L8bQh.4602$NK2.3874@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Herman wrote:
>> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> > It is
>> possible for no fee, to point an 01 or 02 number to any of the
>>> Betamax services.
>> Was this the one you didn't want to public post?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
>> I have never managed to get it to work using Voxalot which was the
>> obvious way. Go on, give us a clue!
>
> A simple email request is all that is needed, other people have been
> happy.
OK would be grateful if you can PM the solution to me.
e-mail address is valid. I'll unblock your address.
Herman wrote:
> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:L8bQh.4602$NK2.3874@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> Herman wrote:
>>> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> > It is
>>> possible for no fee, to point an 01 or 02 number to any of the
>>>> Betamax services.
>>> Was this the one you didn't want to public post?
>>>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> I have never managed to get it to work using Voxalot which was the
>>> obvious way. Go on, give us a clue!
>>
>> A simple email request is all that is needed, other people have been
>> happy.
> OK would be grateful if you can PM the solution to me.
>
> e-mail address is valid. I'll unblock your address.
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:g1eQh.4893$NK2.3852@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Herman wrote:
>> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
>> message news:L8bQh.4602$NK2.3874@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>> Herman wrote:
>>>> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> > It is
>>>> possible for no fee, to point an 01 or 02 number to any of the
>>>>> Betamax services.
>>>> Was this the one you didn't want to public post?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>>> I have never managed to get it to work using Voxalot which was the
>>>> obvious way. Go on, give us a clue!
>>>
>>> A simple email request is all that is needed, other people have been
>>> happy.
>> OK would be grateful if you can PM the solution to me.
>>
>> e-mail address is valid. I'll unblock your address.
>
> No worries, done.
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:L8bQh.4602$NK2.3874@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>
> > I have never managed to get it to work using Voxalot which was the
> > obvious way. Go on, give us a clue!
>
> A simple email request is all that is needed, other people have been
> happy.
Hi
I am also curious, would it be OK if I emailed you?
Rob wrote:
> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:L8bQh.4602$NK2.3874@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>
>>> I have never managed to get it to work using Voxalot which was the
>>> obvious way. Go on, give us a clue!
>>
>> A simple email request is all that is needed, other people have been
>> happy.
>
> Hi
>
> I am also curious, would it be OK if I emailed you?
>
> TIA
> Rob
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:WBBQh.5527$NK2.5146@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>
> Sure, no problem.
Thanks for the info, I'll set it up as soon as I get a few minutes.
On Apr 2, 5:12 pm, "Herman" <whhitehousemadhouse-2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> > It is possible
> for no fee, to point an 01 or 02 number to any of the> Betamax services.
>
> Was this the one you didn't want to public post?
>
> I have never managed to get it to work using Voxalot which was the obvious
> way. Go on, give us a clue!
Betamax have been blocking Voxalot for about 4 weeks, but this is
projected to be lifted fairly soon, maybe some time next week.
"andy" <andy.ggrps@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1175732706.514399.258630@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> On Apr 2, 5:12 pm, "Herman" <whhitehousemadhouse-2...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> > It is possible
>> for no fee, to point an 01 or 02 number to any of the> Betamax services.
>>
>> Was this the one you didn't want to public post?
>>
>> I have never managed to get it to work using Voxalot which was the
>> obvious
>> way. Go on, give us a clue!
>
> Betamax have been blocking Voxalot for about 4 weeks, but this is
> projected to be lifted fairly soon, maybe some time next week.
Are they announcing news in advance or is this from another source like VB
forum?
On Apr 5, 8:21 am, "Herman" <whhitehousemadhouse-2...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
> "andy" <andy.gg...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1175732706.514399.258630@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > On Apr 2, 5:12 pm, "Herman" <whhitehousemadhouse-2...@yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> > It is possible
> >> for no fee, to point an 01 or 02 number to any of the> Betamax services.
>
> >> Was this the one you didn't want to public post?
>
> >> I have never managed to get it to work using Voxalot which was the
> >> obvious
> >> way. Go on, give us a clue!
>
> > Betamax have been blocking Voxalot for about 4 weeks, but this is
> > projected to be lifted fairly soon, maybe some time next week.
>
> Are they announcing news in advance or is this from another source like VB
> forum?
There has been exchange of emails between Betamax and Voxalot, about
changes agreed to be made on both servers. Voxalot have made theirs,
and Betamax's changes are a bit more complex and are hoped for next
week
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