{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> Thus spaketh Xeonwales:
> > Have they now started to charge to UK landlines??
>
> A few months back, yes.
>
>
> --
> Items for sale: www.dodgy-dealer.co.uk
Damb shame.... thought my credit was going down...
Any other providers (apart from Skype) that offer free uk landline
calls??
Thus spaketh Xeonwales:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>> Thus spaketh Xeonwales:
>>> Have they now started to charge to UK landlines??
>>
>> A few months back, yes.
>>
>>
>
> Damb shame.... thought my credit was going down...
>
> Any other providers (apart from Skype) that offer free uk landline
> calls??
I use sister service to VoIPCheap.co.uk, VoIPStunt.com which has UK as
free and 120 free days.
The .com version of VoIPCheap has the UK as free but only 90 free days,
but a much better deal on calling UK mobiles.
On 7 Nov 2006 10:46:58 -0800, "Xeonwales" <cpritcharduk@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>> Thus spaketh Xeonwales:
>> > Have they now started to charge to UK landlines??
>>
>> A few months back, yes.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Items for sale: www.dodgy-dealer.co.uk
>
>Damb shame.... thought my credit was going down...
>
>Any other providers (apart from Skype) that offer free uk landline
>calls??
Not 'Free' but good deals...
£2/month (or £20/year) for inclusive off peak calls and 2p/call peak
with voip.co.uk. for UK calls.
2p/call anytime with Vyke for calls within Europe + US http://tinyurl.com/ylu8os
Personally I'd sooner go with a VSP that isn't changing the T&Cs every
few weeks as the Finarea companies appear to do.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
"Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 7 Nov 2006 10:46:58 -0800, "Xeonwales" <cpritcharduk@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> >> Thus spaketh Xeonwales:
> >> > Have they now started to charge to UK landlines??
> >>
> >> A few months back, yes.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Items for sale: www.dodgy-dealer.co.uk
> >
> >Damb shame.... thought my credit was going down...
> >
> >Any other providers (apart from Skype) that offer free uk landline
> >calls??
> Not 'Free' but good deals...
> £2/month (or £20/year) for inclusive off peak calls and 2p/call peak
> with voip.co.uk. for UK calls.
> 2p/call anytime with Vyke for calls within Europe + US
> http://tinyurl.com/ylu8os
> Personally I'd sooner go with a VSP that isn't changing the T&Cs every
> few weeks as the Finarea companies appear to do.
> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
Hi,
Have you tried out Vyke?
I am very interested to know what their like. I certainly like the offer as
they present it (2p/call).
Thus spaketh News Reader:
> "Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:gam1l2l86eclk2clpq900unf4js2bue7g2@4ax.com...
>> On 7 Nov 2006 10:46:58 -0800, "Xeonwales" <cpritcharduk@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>>>> Thus spaketh Xeonwales:
>>>>> Have they now started to charge to UK landlines??
>>>>
>>>> A few months back, yes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Items for sale: www.dodgy-dealer.co.uk
>>>
>>> Damb shame.... thought my credit was going down...
>>>
>>> Any other providers (apart from Skype) that offer free uk landline
>>> calls??
>> Not 'Free' but good deals...
>> £2/month (or £20/year) for inclusive off peak calls and 2p/call peak
>> with voip.co.uk. for UK calls.
>> 2p/call anytime with Vyke for calls within Europe + US
>> http://tinyurl.com/ylu8os
>> Personally I'd sooner go with a VSP that isn't changing the T&Cs
>> every few weeks as the Finarea companies appear to do.
>> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
>
> Hi,
>
> Have you tried out Vyke?
>
> I am very interested to know what their like. I certainly like the
> offer as they present it (2p/call).
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
Do they supply an incoming number, does anyone have the setting for an
ATA?
"Xeonwales" <cpritcharduk@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Have they now started to charge to UK landlines??
>
I left a few pence credit in my voip.co.uk account and use it for
incoming calls only. It has a very easy to remember Manchester
number and I hope they don't disable it.
I signed up for an account with voipcheap.com and use
that for my outgoing calls.
I also have some sipgate accounts (no credit) mainly for other incoming
traffic,
but, very useful for making 0800 calls, as I found out to my cost that
voipcheap.com like to charge you for those!
--
>>
>> Have you tried out Vyke?
I haven't tried Vyke and I haven't seen any postings where people have
indicated that they use Vyke. Atm it is an unknown animal, I think, as
far as this group is concerned. I suppose that it will only cost about
£5 credit to find out.
>>
>> I am very interested to know what their like. I certainly like the
>> offer as they present it (2p/call).
>>
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>
>Do they supply an incoming number, does anyone have the setting for an
>ATA?
I sent an email to them asking for ATA set up details as they weren't
on their site. They wrote back to say that they supplied the info.
when you signed up. A bit silly really, in my view. People need to
know if it is likely to work OK, with their equipment. Being furnished
with the SIP settings is likely to give them more confidence in this
area.
As regards an incoming number, I don't see that as important as many
VOIPists - oh a new word :-) - use several outgoing providers with a
lesser number of incoming numbers. It is possible to get free UK
incoming numbers so whether Vyke provide them isn't so important.
I don't see evidence, on Vyke's web site, that they offer numbers,
but, as they are secretive about their SIP settings they may be
equally secretive about their other products.
Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
Thus spaketh Brian A:
>>> Have you tried out Vyke?
> I haven't tried Vyke and I haven't seen any postings where people have
> indicated that they use Vyke. Atm it is an unknown animal, I think, as
> far as this group is concerned. I suppose that it will only cost about
> £5 credit to find out.
>
>>>
>>> I am very interested to know what their like. I certainly like the
>>> offer as they present it (2p/call).
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>
>>
>> Do they supply an incoming number, does anyone have the setting for
>> an ATA?
> I sent an email to them asking for ATA set up details as they weren't
> on their site. They wrote back to say that they supplied the info.
> when you signed up. A bit silly really, in my view. People need to
> know if it is likely to work OK, with their equipment. Being furnished
> with the SIP settings is likely to give them more confidence in this
> area.
> As regards an incoming number, I don't see that as important as many
> VOIPists - oh a new word :-) - use several outgoing providers with a
> lesser number of incoming numbers. It is possible to get free UK
> incoming numbers so whether Vyke provide them isn't so important.
> I don't see evidence, on Vyke's web site, that they offer numbers,
> but, as they are secretive about their SIP settings they may be
> equally secretive about their other products.
> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
I have a PAP2 ATA, and whilst I have an incoming number with Sipgate I
also have one with VoIPStunt, which is very handy. I do have several
other accounts and will be setting up an Asterisk box, but I've been
saying that for about a year now.
I like the sound of Vyke with the 2p per call system, but don't like not
having an incoming local number or the fact they don't publish the
settings for an ATA on their site.
At the moment I am happy with VoIPStunt and by using the various sister
companies had over 15 months of free calling for a grand total of six
Euro, so I've had my money's worth.
So Vyke offering a local incoming number is important to me.
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Thus spaketh Brian A:
> >>> Have you tried out Vyke?
> > I haven't tried Vyke and I haven't seen any postings where people have
> > indicated that they use Vyke. Atm it is an unknown animal, I think, as
> > far as this group is concerned. I suppose that it will only cost about
> > £5 credit to find out.
> >
> >>>
> >>> I am very interested to know what their like. I certainly like the
> >>> offer as they present it (2p/call).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Best wishes,
> >>>
> >>
> >> Do they supply an incoming number, does anyone have the setting for
> >> an ATA?
> > I sent an email to them asking for ATA set up details as they weren't
> > on their site. They wrote back to say that they supplied the info.
> > when you signed up. A bit silly really, in my view. People need to
> > know if it is likely to work OK, with their equipment. Being furnished
> > with the SIP settings is likely to give them more confidence in this
> > area.
> > As regards an incoming number, I don't see that as important as many
> > VOIPists - oh a new word :-) - use several outgoing providers with a
> > lesser number of incoming numbers. It is possible to get free UK
> > incoming numbers so whether Vyke provide them isn't so important.
> > I don't see evidence, on Vyke's web site, that they offer numbers,
> > but, as they are secretive about their SIP settings they may be
> > equally secretive about their other products.
> > Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
>
>
> I have a PAP2 ATA, and whilst I have an incoming number with Sipgate I
> also have one with VoIPStunt, which is very handy. I do have several
> other accounts and will be setting up an Asterisk box, but I've been
> saying that for about a year now.
>
> I like the sound of Vyke with the 2p per call system, but don't like not
> having an incoming local number or the fact they don't publish the
> settings for an ATA on their site.
>
> At the moment I am happy with VoIPStunt and by using the various sister
> companies had over 15 months of free calling for a grand total of six
> Euro, so I've had my money's worth.
>
> So Vyke offering a local incoming number is important to me.
>
Hi,
I can fully understand your point about incoming numbers. Normally, (in an
ideal world anyhow), with the joys of SIP the "cost" (particularly marginal
cost) of having another provider or separate provider to provide an ( /
another) incoming number should be almost zero (a few bytes of data over a
week!). I.e. having another or separate provider for an incoming number
should be no problem and involve no "cost" (in terms of equipment,
configuration, etc.) - it should just be a case of configuring it and
forgetting about it (in reality your hardware may only support a limited
number of service providers so this is not always true - although you can
use an aggregating service such as voxalot.com [extremely good - by the
sipbroker outfit).
Separately, on the point of providing ATA / SIP server settings, the likes
of Vyke are in a much larger crowd than those who do like to publish their
private equipment details. I.e. most providers would rather keep that
information to users / subscribers (helps to stop idle kids and those
suffering idle curiosity from playing about with their equipment) - and thus
should be in a private / members / users help area - just ringfenced from
Joe Public (for the aforementioned reason). This is generally just good
sense and security policy. Of course, I could be wrong and their could be
another very good (as in wrong or bad) reason why they are not publishing
this information broadly, generally and publicly.
Thus spaketh News Reader:
> "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:emm4h.49125$r61.41143@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
>> Thus spaketh Brian A:
>>>>> Have you tried out Vyke?
>>> I haven't tried Vyke and I haven't seen any postings where people
>>> have indicated that they use Vyke. Atm it is an unknown animal, I
>>> think, as far as this group is concerned. I suppose that it will
>>> only cost about £5 credit to find out.
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am very interested to know what their like. I certainly like the
>>>>> offer as they present it (2p/call).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do they supply an incoming number, does anyone have the setting for
>>>> an ATA?
>>> I sent an email to them asking for ATA set up details as they
>>> weren't on their site. They wrote back to say that they supplied
>>> the info. when you signed up. A bit silly really, in my view.
>>> People need to know if it is likely to work OK, with their
>>> equipment. Being furnished with the SIP settings is likely to give
>>> them more confidence in this area.
>>> As regards an incoming number, I don't see that as important as many
>>> VOIPists - oh a new word :-) - use several outgoing providers with
>>> a lesser number of incoming numbers. It is possible to get free UK
>>> incoming numbers so whether Vyke provide them isn't so important.
>>> I don't see evidence, on Vyke's web site, that they offer numbers,
>>> but, as they are secretive about their SIP settings they may be
>>> equally secretive about their other products.
>>> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.
>>
>>
>> I have a PAP2 ATA, and whilst I have an incoming number with Sipgate
>> I also have one with VoIPStunt, which is very handy. I do have
>> several other accounts and will be setting up an Asterisk box, but
>> I've been saying that for about a year now.
>>
>> I like the sound of Vyke with the 2p per call system, but don't like
>> not having an incoming local number or the fact they don't publish
>> the settings for an ATA on their site.
>>
>> At the moment I am happy with VoIPStunt and by using the various
>> sister companies had over 15 months of free calling for a grand
>> total of six Euro, so I've had my money's worth.
>>
>> So Vyke offering a local incoming number is important to me.
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> I can fully understand your point about incoming numbers. Normally,
> (in an ideal world anyhow), with the joys of SIP the "cost"
> (particularly marginal cost) of having another provider or separate
> provider to provide an ( / another) incoming number should be almost
> zero (a few bytes of data over a week!). I.e. having another or
> separate provider for an incoming number should be no problem and
> involve no "cost" (in terms of equipment, configuration, etc.) - it
> should just be a case of configuring it and forgetting about it (in
> reality your hardware may only support a limited number of service
> providers so this is not always true - although you can use an
> aggregating service such as voxalot.com [extremely good - by the
> sipbroker outfit).
>
> Separately, on the point of providing ATA / SIP server settings, the
> likes of Vyke are in a much larger crowd than those who do like to
> publish their private equipment details. I.e. most providers would
> rather keep that information to users / subscribers (helps to stop
> idle kids and those suffering idle curiosity from playing about with
> their equipment) - and thus should be in a private / members / users
> help area - just ringfenced from Joe Public (for the aforementioned
> reason). This is generally just good sense and security policy. Of
> course, I could be wrong and their could be another very good (as in
> wrong or bad) reason why they are not publishing this information
> broadly, generally and publicly.
>
> Anyhow, who knows ! :)
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
I did try Voxalot, didn't like it. Maybe once they work around the
problems and also not force that nasty thing called voicemail onto
people who call your number I may look at it again.