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Old 02-27-2008, 08:06 PM
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Default VoipFone + Voxalot ??

Hi All,

Have you been able to make VoipFone work with Voxalot, for outgoing
calls?

Thanks,
Jose


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Old 02-28-2008, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: VoipFone + Voxalot ??

On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:06:01 GMT, go.spam@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:

>Have you been able to make VoipFone work with Voxalot, for outgoing
>calls?


And incoming? Are you able to get calls from your VoipFone number(s)
through Voxalot?

Regards,
Jose

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Old 02-28-2008, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: VoipFone + Voxalot ??

In article <47c6d03f.1584406@news20.forteinc.com>,
go.spam@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Have you been able to make VoipFone work with Voxalot, for outgoing
> calls?
>
> Thanks,
> Jose


Hi Jose,

Try this (for outbound calls only):

Enter your Voipfone username and password in the configuration form.
Then click on Advanced Settings and set it up as follows:

Provider Name: Voipfone
From User: Your Voipfone username
From Domain:The Caller ID that you use (in the form 0044xxxxx)
Username: Your Voipfone username
Codecs: g729;ilbc;gsm;ulaw;alaw
Host: sip.voipfone.co.uk
Port: 5060
Active: Yes
SIP Register: No
Optimize Audio Path: No

Inbound calls are handled slightly differently. Try redirecting them via
Sipbroker. In Voipfone's Call Divert field, enter *1*010<your Voxalot
id>.

(*1 sends the call to Sipbroker, *010 forwards it from Sipbroker to
Voxalot, and the Voxalot id is the last link in the chain).

Oldie

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Old 02-28-2008, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: VoipFone + Voxalot ??

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:03:45 +0000, Oldie <realoldie@googlemail.com>
wrote:

>Inbound calls are handled slightly differently. Try redirecting them via
>Sipbroker. In Voipfone's Call Divert field, enter *1*010<your Voxalot
>id>.
>
>(*1 sends the call to Sipbroker, *010 forwards it from Sipbroker to
>Voxalot, and the Voxalot id is the last link in the chain).


Hi,

My outbound are working fine!

I have 1 or 2 questions about your explanations for inbound calls,
above.

1) Assuming my Voxalot ID is 123456, I'd be forwarding to
*1*010<123456> right?

2) I read somewhere, that this works only with calls originated from
PSTN... True of folklore?
My problem is I have a DID in the USA, being forwarded to VoipFone
through SIP URI ... Would such calls be forwarded to Voxalot, or am I
pushing my luck, already?


On another note... What does Voxalot make from the free outbound call
routing service? I almost feel guilty for using without paying a
cent...

Thanks a lot!
Jose

PS - In case one of your setup providers in the Voxalot account is
down, will it route the call through the other setup provider?
Alternativelly, will it let you override all rules, and use the
provider you like, without having to log on to your account?


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Old 02-28-2008, 08:47 PM
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"Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else> wrote in message
news:47c702cd.28245781@news20.forteinc.com...
> 2) I read somewhere, that this works only with calls originated from
> PSTN... True of folklore?
> My problem is I have a DID in the USA, being forwarded to VoipFone
> through SIP URI ... Would such calls be forwarded to Voxalot, or am I
> pushing my luck, already?


I can't comment about voipfone. However, why don't you forward your US DID
to Voxalot direct, e.g. 123456@voxalot.com? That could improve call quality
for those calls. This is what I do with my IPKall number.



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Old 02-28-2008, 09:15 PM
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Default Re: VoipFone + Voxalot ??

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:03:48 GMT, go.spam@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:

>2) I read somewhere, that this works only with calls originated from
>PSTN... True of folklore?
> My problem is I have a DID in the USA, being forwarded to VoipFone
>through SIP URI ... Would such calls be forwarded to Voxalot, or am I
>pushing my luck, already?


If I had a Vox Lite (paid) account, could I forward my USA DID inbound
calls to a Voxalot SIP URI?

Does Voxalot allow any kind of control over at hours of day your
inbound calls get through, on the forward rules, perhaps? (VoipFone
allows this, although not free, but since I live in Portugal, I find
it usefull)

Tanks,
Jose


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Old 02-28-2008, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: VoipFone + Voxalot ??

"Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else> wrote in message
news:47c82e7a.39427500@news20.forteinc.com...
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:03:48 GMT, go.spam@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:
>
>>2) I read somewhere, that this works only with calls originated from
>>PSTN... True of folklore?
>> My problem is I have a DID in the USA, being forwarded to VoipFone
>>through SIP URI ... Would such calls be forwarded to Voxalot, or am I
>>pushing my luck, already?

>
> If I had a Vox Lite (paid) account, could I forward my USA DID inbound
> calls to a Voxalot SIP URI?
>
> Does Voxalot allow any kind of control over at hours of day your
> inbound calls get through, on the forward rules, perhaps? (VoipFone
> allows this, although not free, but since I live in Portugal, I find
> it usefull)
>
> Tanks,
> Jose



You can do this using call forward on a premium account, which I have. But
I am not sure what level of service you have to have to make this work.

If it helps, you can divert to your vsp's voicemail by forwarding to an
invalid number. This sends a SIP busy here message back to your vsp which
should trigger voicemail if you have it activated.

Alternatively use Voxalot voicemail, but I have not had success with this
(DTMF is not picked up by the voicemail system)



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Old 02-28-2008, 09:36 PM
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Default Re: VoipFone + Voxalot ??

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:47:32 -0000, "Herman"
<whitehouse.madhousetakemeout@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>I can't comment about voipfone. However, why don't you forward your US DID
>to Voxalot direct, e.g. 123456@voxalot.com? That could improve call quality
>for those calls. This is what I do with my IPKall number.



Hi Herman,

Just changed the routing path of my US DID, and seems to working!

Thanks a lot for the sugestion!

I'm surprised that Voxalot allows this even with a Basic (non-paid)
account!

Best,
Jose

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Old 02-29-2008, 08:18 AM
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Default Re: VoipFone + Voxalot ??

In article <47c702cd.28245781@news20.forteinc.com>,
go.spam@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:

(snipped)

> Hi,
>
> My outbound are working fine!
>
> I have 1 or 2 questions about your explanations for inbound calls,
> above.
>
> 1) Assuming my Voxalot ID is 123456, I'd be forwarding to
> *1*010<123456> right?


Yes, that should work.

>
> 2) I read somewhere, that this works only with calls originated from
> PSTN... True of folklore?
> My problem is I have a DID in the USA, being forwarded to VoipFone
> through SIP URI ... Would such calls be forwarded to Voxalot, or am I
> pushing my luck, already?


Sounds like folklore to me :-)


>
> On another note... What does Voxalot make from the free outbound call
> routing service? I almost feel guilty for using without paying a
> cent...


You would have to ask them about their business model. In my case, I
find their other services (forwarding etc.) so flexible and useful that
I am more than happy to pay $15 for their service.

>
> Thanks a lot!
> Jose
>
> PS - In case one of your setup providers in the Voxalot account is
> down, will it route the call through the other setup provider?
> Alternativelly, will it let you override all rules, and use the
> provider you like, without having to log on to your account?


To answer the first, I believe not. The second is quite easy to do. Just
set up dialling rules so that you dial a prefix to choose a particular
provider. Then, dial the access code that you have created followed by
your destination number!

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Old 02-29-2008, 12:54 PM
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Default Re: VoipFone + Voxalot ??

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:18:47 +0000, Oldie <realoldie@googlemail.com>
wrote:

>> 1) Assuming my Voxalot ID is 123456, I'd be forwarding to
>> *1*010<123456> right?

>
>Yes, that should work.



It's not working...

First I tried *1*031<123456> and I would hear a ring tone in my
outgoing phone, but no ringing at all in my incoming phone connected
to Voxalot.

Then I tried *1*010<123456>, and the call would simply not get
through...


>To answer the first, I believe not. The second is quite easy to do. Just
>set up dialling rules so that you dial a prefix to choose a particular
>provider. Then, dial the access code that you have created followed by
>your destination number!


Not sure I understand what you mean...
The only kind of rules I've seen so far, in the Basic account is "If
dialed number starts with xxx then use prover y"

How can I a) choose a provider, and b) dial out a number using a
provider that goes against the rules established?

Does a Lite account give you access more elaborated rules?

Best,
Jose

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Old 02-29-2008, 02:30 PM
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Default Re: VoipFone + Voxalot ??

In article <47c809bf.9060406@news20.forteinc.com>,
go.spam@somewhere.else (Jose) wrote:

(snipped)
>
>
> It's not working...
>
> First I tried *1*031<123456> and I would hear a ring tone in my
> outgoing phone, but no ringing at all in my incoming phone connected
> to Voxalot.
>
> Then I tried *1*010<123456>, and the call would simply not get
> through...

]
Just a thought, you're not using the brackets are you? I just checked
mine using the string *1*010123456 and it worked fine. Did you put it in
under "Set Call Divert" in the Voipfone control panel? And did you enter
the string in the first field "Divert all calls to"?

> >To answer the first, I believe not. The second is quite easy to do. Just
> >set up dialling rules so that you dial a prefix to choose a particular
> >provider. Then, dial the access code that you have created followed by
> >your destination number!

>
> Not sure I understand what you mean...
> The only kind of rules I've seen so far, in the Basic account is "If
> dialed number starts with xxx then use prover y"
>
> How can I a) choose a provider, and b) dial out a number using a
> provider that goes against the rules established?
>
> Does a Lite account give you access more elaborated rules?


No, any account lets you do this. Under Dial Plans, set up a new rule.
In the example below I am using a priority of 500.

500 _11. ${EXTEN:2} Voipfone Yes Edit Delete

a) The pattern is _11, which means "if the dialled number starts with 11
then route the call through Voipfone". (Be careful - if you have any
higher priority dialplans that look at a starting string of 11, they
will get acted upon first!)

b) The Replacement is ${EXTEN:2}, which means "strip out the first 2
characters before sending the dialled number to the provider":

So in this case, if you dial 110033xxxxxxxxxx over Voxalot it will send
just 0033xxxxxxxxxx to Voipfone.

Hope this helps.

Oldie

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Old 02-29-2008, 06:52 PM
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:30:47 +0000, Oldie <realoldie@googlemail.com>
wrote:

>> Then I tried *1*010<123456>, and the call would simply not get
>> through...

>]
>Just a thought, you're not using the brackets are you?


Yes, I was! *1*031<234567>
Now that I've replaced it with *1*03123457, it's working fine!
(Despite the tech suport telling me I can not forward calls to Voxalot
;-P )



>Did you put it in
>under "Set Call Divert" in the Voipfone control panel? And did you enter
>the string in the first field "Divert all calls to"?


I have a Virtual PBX. The only field where it lets me enter the string
above, is in PSTN Failover, relative to the single extension I have.

Anyway it's working now, althoug I'm still not sure if I'm going to
stay with Voxalot for incoming calls - I can't find a way, in
Voxalot's system, to:

1) Divert to a PSTN number, if some reason I'm not logged on to
Voxalot; and with this feature working

2) avoid geting inbound calls when I'm already sleeping in Portugal,
but my clients in the USA may not ;-P

(VoipFone allows me to do both 1 and 2 above!)



>500 _11. ${EXTEN:2} Voipfone Yes Edit Delete
>
>So in this case, if you dial 110033xxxxxxxxxx over Voxalot it will send
>just 0033xxxxxxxxxx to Voipfone.


Excelent! Thanks a lot!!


Now I'll go see if I can learn something else about Voxalot, to suit
my needs.

Best,
Jose

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Old 03-01-2008, 02:46 PM
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:36:02 -0000, "Herman"
<whitehouse.madhousetakemeout@bigfoot.com> wrote:


>Alternatively use Voxalot voicemail, but I have not had success with this
>(DTMF is not picked up by the voicemail system)


Hi Herman,

Voxalot thinks I have my time mixedup when I say I want to forward
incoming calls from, say, 23:30 to 09:00, and gives and error message
saying the start time must be earlier than the end time :-(

Best,
Jose


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Old 03-01-2008, 08:04 PM
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"Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else> wrote in message
news:47c979e5.9980718@news20.forteinc.com...
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:36:02 -0000, "Herman"
> <whitehouse.madhousetakemeout@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Alternatively use Voxalot voicemail, but I have not had success with this
>>(DTMF is not picked up by the voicemail system)

>
> Hi Herman,
>
> Voxalot thinks I have my time mixedup when I say I want to forward
> incoming calls from, say, 23:30 to 09:00, and gives and error message
> saying the start time must be earlier than the end time :-(
>
> Best,
> Jose

Suggest putting two entries in, one from 23:30 to 23:59 and one from 00:00
to 09:00.

Also, be careful as Voxalot sometimes does not have the right time. I
believe it is because they don't put the clock forward for summer, but it
may have been something more complicated than that. You should find
something on the Voxalot forum about it. It may be the answer is as simple
as changing your time zone in March and October - which I also have to do on
my Fritz!Box ;-(

Cheers,

Herman



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Old 03-01-2008, 08:14 PM
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On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 21:04:41 -0000, "Herman"
<whitehouse.madhousetakemeout@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>Suggest putting two entries in, one from 23:30 to 23:59 and one from 00:00
>to 09:00.


Perfect!


>Also, be careful as Voxalot sometimes does not have the right time. I


Since you mention it: the time used there, is the time in what part of
the world??? GMT? Or something else?

Thanks a lot!
Jose

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Old 03-01-2008, 09:03 PM
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"Jose" <go.spam@somewhere.else> wrote in message
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>>Also, be careful as Voxalot sometimes does not have the right time. I

>
> Since you mention it: the time used there, is the time in what part of
> the world??? GMT? Or something else?


IIRC you specify it in your account options on Voxalot. Bearing in mind
Voxalot are an Australian outfit, it is probably a good thing too!



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