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Old 07-16-2007, 09:05 PM
Jono
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Default Voxalot - Is the free lunch over?

> To All Voxalot Members:
>
> At long last, after months of preparation and hard work by the
> Voxalot team, we have just launched a new brand, new look and feel
> web site and the VoxPremium family of products. We will continue to
> offer a free service to those members who want to use the basic
> functions, called VoxBasic. VoxPremium members will have access to
> the advanced functions such as web call back, call forwarding and SIP
> registrations. The feature comparison table provides a comparison
> between a VoxBasic and VoxPremium accounts, along with the annual
> subscription fee. VoxPremium will be available in three different
> packages: VoxLite, VoxPro and VoxExtreme. The feature comparison
> table can be found on the new site at the following url:
>
> http://www.voxalot.com/action/premiumFeatures
>
> A VoxPremium subscription will give you Web Call Back, Call
> Forwarding and enable you to have up to 10 providers registered
> against your VSPs in order to enable in-bounds and DID registrations.
> An annual subscription to VoxPremium will range from US$15 to US$40.
> Members will be able to purchase VoxPremium in US dollars, Euros or
> Australian dollars via credit card or PayPal.
>
> All members who wish to continue to use the advanced features will
> have two weeks (until July 30th) to upgrade their account to
> VoxPremium. After which all accounts that have not been upgraded will
> be set to VoxBasic. Thank you for your continued support.
>
>
> The Voxalot Team




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Old 07-16-2007, 10:21 PM
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Default Re: Voxalot - Is the free lunch over?


"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.84f17d777875b5d2.48968@blueyonder.invalid. ..
>> To All Voxalot Members:
>>
>> At long last, after months of preparation and hard work by the
>> Voxalot team, we have just launched a new brand, new look and feel
>> web site and the VoxPremium family of products. We will continue to
>> offer a free service to those members who want to use the basic
>> functions, called VoxBasic. VoxPremium members will have access to
>> the advanced functions such as web call back, call forwarding and SIP
>> registrations. The feature comparison table provides a comparison
>> between a VoxBasic and VoxPremium accounts, along with the annual
>> subscription fee. VoxPremium will be available in three different
>> packages: VoxLite, VoxPro and VoxExtreme. The feature comparison
>> table can be found on the new site at the following url:
>> http://www.voxalot.com/action/premiumFeatures
>>
>> A VoxPremium subscription will give you Web Call Back, Call
>> Forwarding and enable you to have up to 10 providers registered
>> against your VSPs in order to enable in-bounds and DID registrations.
>> An annual subscription to VoxPremium will range from US$15 to US$40.
>> Members will be able to purchase VoxPremium in US dollars, Euros or
>> Australian dollars via credit card or PayPal. All members who wish to
>> continue to use the advanced features will
>> have two weeks (until July 30th) to upgrade their account to
>> VoxPremium. After which all accounts that have not been upgraded will
>> be set to VoxBasic. Thank you for your continued support. The Voxalot
>> Team


Anyone know what "Call Connection Rules" are?
All my outgoing providers and all the lines in my dialplan
still work.

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Old 07-16-2007, 10:44 PM
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Default Re: Voxalot - Is the free lunch over?

Graham presented the following explanation :
> "Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
> news:mn.84f17d777875b5d2.48968@blueyonder.invalid. ..
>>> To All Voxalot Members:
>>>
>>> At long last, after months of preparation and hard work by the
>>> Voxalot team, we have just launched a new brand, new look and feel
>>> web site and the VoxPremium family of products. We will continue to
>>> offer a free service to those members who want to use the basic
>>> functions, called VoxBasic. VoxPremium members will have access to
>>> the advanced functions such as web call back, call forwarding and SIP
>>> registrations. The feature comparison table provides a comparison
>>> between a VoxBasic and VoxPremium accounts, along with the annual
>>> subscription fee. VoxPremium will be available in three different
>>> packages: VoxLite, VoxPro and VoxExtreme. The feature comparison
>>> table can be found on the new site at the following url:
>>> http://www.voxalot.com/action/premiumFeatures
>>>
>>> A VoxPremium subscription will give you Web Call Back, Call
>>> Forwarding and enable you to have up to 10 providers registered
>>> against your VSPs in order to enable in-bounds and DID registrations.
>>> An annual subscription to VoxPremium will range from US$15 to US$40.
>>> Members will be able to purchase VoxPremium in US dollars, Euros or
>>> Australian dollars via credit card or PayPal. All members who wish to
>>> continue to use the advanced features will
>>> have two weeks *(until July 30th)* to upgrade their account to
>>> VoxPremium. After which all accounts that have not been upgraded will
>>> be set to VoxBasic. Thank you for your continued support. The Voxalot
>>> Team

>
> Anyone know what "Call Connection Rules" are?
> All my outgoing providers and all the lines in my dialplan
> still work.


have two weeks *(until July 30th)* to upgrade



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Old 07-16-2007, 11:32 PM
Graham
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"Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
news:mn.85547d778c922860.48968@blueyonder.invalid. ..
> Graham presented the following explanation :
>> "Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:mn.84f17d777875b5d2.48968@blueyonder.invalid. ..
>>>> To All Voxalot Members:
>>>>
>>>> At long last, after months of preparation and hard work by the
>>>> Voxalot team, we have just launched a new brand, new look and feel
>>>> web site and the VoxPremium family of products. We will continue to
>>>> offer a free service to those members who want to use the basic
>>>> functions, called VoxBasic. VoxPremium members will have access to
>>>> the advanced functions such as web call back, call forwarding and SIP
>>>> registrations. The feature comparison table provides a comparison
>>>> between a VoxBasic and VoxPremium accounts, along with the annual
>>>> subscription fee. VoxPremium will be available in three different
>>>> packages: VoxLite, VoxPro and VoxExtreme. The feature comparison
>>>> table can be found on the new site at the following url:
>>>> http://www.voxalot.com/action/premiumFeatures
>>>>
>>>> A VoxPremium subscription will give you Web Call Back, Call
>>>> Forwarding and enable you to have up to 10 providers registered
>>>> against your VSPs in order to enable in-bounds and DID registrations.
>>>> An annual subscription to VoxPremium will range from US$15 to US$40.
>>>> Members will be able to purchase VoxPremium in US dollars, Euros or
>>>> Australian dollars via credit card or PayPal. All members who wish
>>>> to continue to use the advanced features will
>>>> have two weeks *(until July 30th)* to upgrade their account to
>>>> VoxPremium. After which all accounts that have not been upgraded will
>>>> be set to VoxBasic. Thank you for your continued support. The Voxalot
>>>> Team

>>
>> Anyone know what "Call Connection Rules" are?
>> All my outgoing providers and all the lines in my dialplan
>> still work.

>
> have two weeks *(until July 30th)* to upgrade


I still don't understand what will happen to my accounts if I don't upgrade.
Will there be a limit to number of providers?
Will there be a limit to dialplan complexity?

The link above says the free service will not have unlimited Call Connection
Rules
what does that mean? is it a limit on the number of lines (of text) in the
dialplan?

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Old 07-16-2007, 11:44 PM
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Default Re: Voxalot - Is the free lunch over?

After serious thinking Graham wrote :
> I still don't understand what will happen to my accounts if I don't upgrade.
> Will there be a limit to number of providers?
> Will there be a limit to dialplan complexity?
>
> The link above says the free service will not have unlimited Call Connection
> Rules
> what does that mean? is it a limit on the number of lines (of text) in the
> dialplan?


As far as I can tell, on the free service, you won't be able to receive
any calls "Provider SIP registrations for inbound - None." That said, I
don't use it anymore, so am not entirely sure of their terminolgy.

Where's there a Brian when you need one? Just you watch, three will
come along at once.



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Old 07-17-2007, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: Voxalot - Is the free lunch over?

On 16-07-2007, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:

> After serious thinking Graham wrote :
>> I still don't understand what will happen to my accounts if I don't upgrade.
>> Will there be a limit to number of providers?
>> Will there be a limit to dialplan complexity?
>>
>> The link above says the free service will not have unlimited Call Connection
>> Rules
>> what does that mean? is it a limit on the number of lines (of text) in the
>> dialplan?

>
> As far as I can tell, on the free service, you won't be able to receive
> any calls "Provider SIP registrations for inbound - None." That said, I
> don't use it anymore, so am not entirely sure of their terminolgy.


You almost have the correct interpretation. Inbound calls to a Voxalot
number will still work.

> Where's there a Brian when you need one? Just you watch, three will
> come along at once.


1.

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Old 07-17-2007, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: Voxalot - Is the free lunch over?

On 16-07-2007, Graham <me@privacy.com> wrote:

> "Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
> news:mn.85547d778c922860.48968@blueyonder.invalid. ..


>> have two weeks *(until July 30th)* to upgrade

>
> I still don't understand what will happen to my accounts if I don't upgrade.
> Will there be a limit to number of providers?


No.

> Will there be a limit to dialplan complexity?


No.

> The link above says the free service will not have unlimited Call Connection
> Rules
> what does that mean? is it a limit on the number of lines (of text) in the
> dialplan?


It is probably a reference to features such as call forwarding, which
will not be offered on the basic plan.

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Old 07-17-2007, 07:15 PM
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Brian <bandj@o2.co.uk> wrote in
news:slrnf9o68c.s8e.bandj@mymachine.invalid:

> On 16-07-2007, Jono <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
>
>> After serious thinking Graham wrote :
>>> I still don't understand what will happen to my accounts if I don't
>>> upgrade. Will there be a limit to number of providers?
>>> Will there be a limit to dialplan complexity?
>>>
>>> The link above says the free service will not have unlimited Call
>>> Connection Rules
>>> what does that mean? is it a limit on the number of lines (of text)
>>> in the dialplan?

>>
>> As far as I can tell, on the free service, you won't be able to
>> receive any calls "Provider SIP registrations for inbound - None."
>> That said, I don't use it anymore, so am not entirely sure of their
>> terminolgy.

>
> You almost have the correct interpretation. Inbound calls to a Voxalot
> number will still work.
>
>> Where's there a Brian when you need one? Just you watch, three will
>> come along at once.

>
> 1.
>


*delurk*
I've been using Voxalot for about a year, in combination with my UK based
VSP. Basically it was just doing the dialplan stuff for me as I didn't
want to faff with the less friendly web interface on the SPA3102,
although the ENUM bits are indeed handy.

Voxalot are now only charging if you want inbound calls from other VOIP
providers/VSPs - and all I was using them for primarily was ENUM, and
adding a friends VSP when my original Grandstream box wouldn't register
properly.

sipbroker.org should still give you ENUM functionality if you craft your
dialplan correctly.

I've now set my SPA3102 Line1 up to my VSP instead of Voxalot, so it can
receive inbound calls on my geographic number, and set gw1 up to point to
Voxalot, with outbound calls routing to gw1 by default.

I can still have my VSP setup on Voxalot with it "unregistered", as it
has the creds so outgoing calls still work, and I still maintain ENUM via
Voxalot.


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Old 07-18-2007, 12:12 AM
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:36:41 +0000 (UTC), Brian <bandj@o2.co.uk>
wrote:

>On 16-07-2007, Graham <me@privacy.com> wrote:
>
>> "Jono" <nothanks@blueyonder.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:mn.85547d778c922860.48968@blueyonder.invalid. ..

>
>>> have two weeks *(until July 30th)* to upgrade

>>
>> I still don't understand what will happen to my accounts if I don't upgrade.
>> Will there be a limit to number of providers?

>
>No.
>
>> Will there be a limit to dialplan complexity?

>
>No.
>
>> The link above says the free service will not have unlimited Call Connection
>> Rules
>> what does that mean? is it a limit on the number of lines (of text) in the
>> dialplan?

>
>It is probably a reference to features such as call forwarding, which
>will not be offered on the basic plan.

If you have a DID, that you can point to your voxalot sip, then it
will still work with the free 'basic'. I have done this so I know it
works. It is only if you have to 'register' a provider that you need
to pay.
I did have 3 registrations, now I just have one for my Australian
number.
For example, if you have a voip.co.uk account, you don't have any
choice but to register it if you want to receive incoming calls on
that number.
What's more, even if you only wanted to use a provider for outgoing
calls only then, with some providers, this isn't possible unless
registered. So, it all depends on what you are wanting to do and any
registration requirements that may exist for your provider(s).
Dial plan rules will work in exactly the same way whatever 'plan' you
are on.
The only differences between the free 'basic' and the 'paid for' plans
are:-
1. Registrations
2. Callback
3. Call forwarding.
I thik that they are going to introduce a callthrough, as well, fairly
soon, but that will be available at all levels - I THINK it is becasue
they will make a very small 'per minute' charge.

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