Apologies if I am missing something here and I would welcome any
corrections.
After a bit of searching around it seems like VoipCheap is the cheapest
provider for outgoing calls - free all the time (up to 5hrs/week) for
landline and 9p/min for mobile.
The only downside I can see is that you do not get an incoming number
however if I subscribe to a service such as Sipgate which offers a free
incoming line but never make any calls out (using an SPA2000 which will
handle 2 lines) then as far as I can tell my only monthly outgoing will be
calls to mobiles.
Resident Drunk has brought this to us :
> Apologies if I am missing something here and I would welcome any
> corrections.
>
> After a bit of searching around it seems like VoipCheap is the cheapest
> provider for outgoing calls - free all the time (up to 5hrs/week) for
> landline and 9p/min for mobile.
>
> The only downside I can see is that you do not get an incoming number
> however if I subscribe to a service such as Sipgate which offers a free
> incoming line but never make any calls out (using an SPA2000 which will
> handle 2 lines) then as far as I can tell my only monthly outgoing will be
> calls to mobiles.
>
> Am I correct ?.
>
> TIA
Perhaps you're using the wrong voipcheap?
<http://www.voipcheap.com/en/rates.html#letu> quotes rates below 5p for
mobiles.
Only had a cursory glance at their rates & didn't spot whether these
rates applied at peak times or not.
Thus spaketh Resident Drunk:
> Apologies if I am missing something here and I would welcome any
> corrections.
>
> After a bit of searching around it seems like VoipCheap is the
> cheapest provider for outgoing calls - free all the time (up to
> 5hrs/week) for landline and 9p/min for mobile.
>
> The only downside I can see is that you do not get an incoming number
> however if I subscribe to a service such as Sipgate which offers a
> free incoming line but never make any calls out (using an SPA2000
> which will handle 2 lines) then as far as I can tell my only monthly
> outgoing will be calls to mobiles.
>
> Am I correct ?.
>
> TIA
..co.uk or .com VoIP Cheap - same company different prices.
I use their sister service VoIP Stunt, €10 (Ten Euro) + 16% VAT every
120 days, 300 mins free calls per week to UK and several international
destinations.
I have an incoming number with VoIP Stunt, VoIP Cheap and SIP Discount
(all same company) all are 0121 numbers, it's only recently they have
stopped issuing numbers, I also have an 0845 number with their other
service VoIPBuster.
Jono wrote:
> Resident Drunk has brought this to us :
> > Apologies if I am missing something here and I would welcome any
> > corrections.
> >
> > After a bit of searching around it seems like VoipCheap is the cheapest
> > provider for outgoing calls - free all the time (up to 5hrs/week) for
> > landline and 9p/min for mobile.
> >
> > The only downside I can see is that you do not get an incoming number
> > however if I subscribe to a service such as Sipgate which offers a free
> > incoming line but never make any calls out (using an SPA2000 which will
> > handle 2 lines) then as far as I can tell my only monthly outgoing willbe
> > calls to mobiles.
> >
> > Am I correct ?.
> >
> > TIA
>
> Perhaps you're using the wrong voipcheap?
>
> <http://www.voipcheap.com/en/rates.html#letu> quotes rates below 5p for
> mobiles.
>
> Only had a cursory glance at their rates & didn't spot whether these
> rates applied at peak times or not.
Just to point out that voipcheap.co.uk and voipcheap.com's rates are
not the same. Prices are initially quoted in pence on co.uk and in
€cents on .com
I think voipcheap.com is generally a bit cheaper - in the case of uk
mobiles 9.75PENCE per min on co.uk and 6€cents per min on .com
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> Thus spaketh Resident Drunk:
>> Apologies if I am missing something here and I would welcome any
>> corrections.
>>
>> After a bit of searching around it seems like VoipCheap is the
>> cheapest provider for outgoing calls - free all the time (up to
>> 5hrs/week) for landline and 9p/min for mobile.
>>
>> The only downside I can see is that you do not get an incoming number
>> however if I subscribe to a service such as Sipgate which offers a
>> free incoming line but never make any calls out (using an SPA2000
>> which will handle 2 lines) then as far as I can tell my only monthly
>> outgoing will be calls to mobiles.
>>
>> Am I correct ?.
>>
>> TIA
>
> .co.uk or .com VoIP Cheap - same company different prices.
>
> I use their sister service VoIP Stunt, ?10 (Ten Euro) + 16% VAT every
> 120 days, 300 mins free calls per week to UK and several international
> destinations.
This is what confuses me (and please excuse my stupidity if I am missing
something) - 10 Euro every 4 months is peanuts, but what do you get for that
that you do not get for free ?.
>
> I have an incoming number with VoIP Stunt, VoIP Cheap and SIP Discount
> (all same company) all are 0121 numbers, it's only recently they have
> stopped issuing numbers, I also have an 0845 number with their other
> service VoIPBuster.
>
> I use VoIP Stunt and Sipgate on a PAP2 ATA.
Is there anything to gain from using multiple providers ?.
My calls will be 99.9% to UK landline and mobiles (I have now switched to
voipcheap.com for even cheaper mobile calls).
Resident Drunk <eldrunk@notformail.com> wrote:
> > .co.uk or .com VoIP Cheap - same company different prices.
> >
> > I use their sister service VoIP Stunt, ?10 (Ten Euro) + 16% VAT every
> > 120 days, 300 mins free calls per week to UK and several international
> > destinations.
>
> This is what confuses me (and please excuse my stupidity if I am missing
> something) - 10 Euro every 4 months is peanuts, but what do you get for that
> that you do not get for free ?.
>
Calls over a minute long.
Thus spaketh Resident Drunk:
> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>> Thus spaketh Resident Drunk:
>>> Apologies if I am missing something here and I would welcome any
>>> corrections.
>>>
>>> After a bit of searching around it seems like VoipCheap is the
>>> cheapest provider for outgoing calls - free all the time (up to
>>> 5hrs/week) for landline and 9p/min for mobile.
>>>
>>> The only downside I can see is that you do not get an incoming
>>> number however if I subscribe to a service such as Sipgate which
>>> offers a free incoming line but never make any calls out (using an
>>> SPA2000 which will handle 2 lines) then as far as I can tell my
>>> only monthly outgoing will be calls to mobiles.
>>>
>>> Am I correct ?.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>> .co.uk or .com VoIP Cheap - same company different prices.
>>
>> I use their sister service VoIP Stunt, ?10 (Ten Euro) + 16% VAT every
>> 120 days, 300 mins free calls per week to UK and several
>> international destinations.
>
> This is what confuses me (and please excuse my stupidity if I am
> missing something) - 10 Euro every 4 months is peanuts, but what do
> you get for that that you do not get for free ?.
>
>>
>> I have an incoming number with VoIP Stunt, VoIP Cheap and SIP
>> Discount (all same company) all are 0121 numbers, it's only recently
>> they have stopped issuing numbers, I also have an 0845 number with
>> their other service VoIPBuster.
>>
>> I use VoIP Stunt and Sipgate on a PAP2 ATA.
>
> Is there anything to gain from using multiple providers ?.
>
> My calls will be 99.9% to UK landline and mobiles (I have now
> switched to voipcheap.com for even cheaper mobile calls).
The reason why I have the two services is I had Sipgate first and have a
very good number with them, it also means I can chop and change my other
service, which I have done, from VoIP Buster, VoIPCheap, SIP Discount
and currently VoIP Stunt, people use my Sipgate number to call me on, I
use VoIP Stunt to make outgoing calls, except freephone calls and calls
to other users on Sipgate or who Sipgate peer with as they are free.
If you don't pay €10 every 120 days, you only get very short 1 minute
calls for free, I think they also put a limit now on how many 1 minute
calls you can make.
I'm happy paying 50p/week for 300 mins calls to UK and other countries,
though I had managed to get over 14 months of free calls for just €6
before they started to implement the 120 day credit limit.
In message <4jgg66F7vvtkU1@individual.net>, Resident Drunk
<eldrunk@notformail.com> writes
>{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>> I use their sister service VoIP Stunt, ?10 (Ten Euro) + 16% VAT every
>> 120 days, 300 mins free calls per week to UK and several international
>> destinations.
>This is what confuses me (and please excuse my stupidity if I am missing
>something) - 10 Euro every 4 months is peanuts, but what do you get for that
>that you do not get for free ?.
Accounts appear to be restricted to VOIP to VOIP calls only after 100
free minutes have been used, which seems fair enough.
>> I use VoIP Stunt and Sipgate on a PAP2 ATA.
>
>Is there anything to gain from using multiple providers ?.
VOIP Stunt doesn't accept incoming calls from the telephone network, but
Sipgate does. I don't think VOIP Stunt even accepts incoming calls from
other SIP providers, apart from its other brandings. :(
Also, for some destinations one VOIP provider may be cheaper than
another.
>My calls will be 99.9% to UK landline and mobiles (I have now switched to
>voipcheap.com for even cheaper mobile calls).
And even cheaper calls to mobiles at the weekend can be had its sister
company: <http://www.1899.com/>. :)
--
Martin Jay
Phone/SMS: +44 7740 191877
Fax: +44 870 915 2124
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
> Thus spaketh Resident Drunk:
>> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>>> Thus spaketh Resident Drunk:
>>>> Apologies if I am missing something here and I would welcome any
>>>> corrections.
>>>>
>>>> After a bit of searching around it seems like VoipCheap is the
>>>> cheapest provider for outgoing calls - free all the time (up to
>>>> 5hrs/week) for landline and 9p/min for mobile.
>>>>
>>>> The only downside I can see is that you do not get an incoming
>>>> number however if I subscribe to a service such as Sipgate which
>>>> offers a free incoming line but never make any calls out (using an
>>>> SPA2000 which will handle 2 lines) then as far as I can tell my
>>>> only monthly outgoing will be calls to mobiles.
>>>>
>>>> Am I correct ?.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>
>>> .co.uk or .com VoIP Cheap - same company different prices.
>>>
>>> I use their sister service VoIP Stunt, ?10 (Ten Euro) + 16% VAT
>>> every 120 days, 300 mins free calls per week to UK and several
>>> international destinations.
>>
>> This is what confuses me (and please excuse my stupidity if I am
>> missing something) - 10 Euro every 4 months is peanuts, but what do
>> you get for that that you do not get for free ?.
>>
>>>
>>> I have an incoming number with VoIP Stunt, VoIP Cheap and SIP
>>> Discount (all same company) all are 0121 numbers, it's only recently
>>> they have stopped issuing numbers, I also have an 0845 number with
>>> their other service VoIPBuster.
>>>
>>> I use VoIP Stunt and Sipgate on a PAP2 ATA.
>>
>> Is there anything to gain from using multiple providers ?.
>>
>> My calls will be 99.9% to UK landline and mobiles (I have now
>> switched to voipcheap.com for even cheaper mobile calls).
>
> The reason why I have the two services is I had Sipgate first and
> have a very good number with them, it also means I can chop and
> change my other service, which I have done, from VoIP Buster,
> VoIPCheap, SIP Discount and currently VoIP Stunt, people use my
> Sipgate number to call me on, I use VoIP Stunt to make outgoing
> calls, except freephone calls and calls to other users on Sipgate or
> who Sipgate peer with as they are free.
>
> If you don't pay ?10 every 120 days, you only get very short 1 minute
> calls for free, I think they also put a limit now on how many 1 minute
> calls you can make.
That was the part I was missing. It doesn't make it clear on the Website -
the only mention I can see is in the FAQ and that is a little obscure.
> I'm happy paying 50p/week for 300 mins calls to UK and other
> countries, though I had managed to get over 14 months of free calls
> for just ?6 before they started to implement the 120 day credit limit.
Thus spaketh Martin Jay:
> In message <4jgg66F7vvtkU1@individual.net>, Resident Drunk
> <eldrunk@notformail.com> writes
>> {{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
>
>>> I use their sister service VoIP Stunt, ?10 (Ten Euro) + 16% VAT
>>> every 120 days, 300 mins free calls per week to UK and several
>>> international destinations.
>
>> This is what confuses me (and please excuse my stupidity if I am
>> missing something) - 10 Euro every 4 months is peanuts, but what do
>> you get for that that you do not get for free ?.
>
> Accounts appear to be restricted to VOIP to VOIP calls only after 100
> free minutes have been used, which seems fair enough.
>
>>> I use VoIP Stunt and Sipgate on a PAP2 ATA.
>>
>> Is there anything to gain from using multiple providers ?.
>
> VOIP Stunt doesn't accept incoming calls from the telephone network,
> but Sipgate does. I don't think VOIP Stunt even accepts incoming
> calls from other SIP providers, apart from its other brandings. :(
>
> Also, for some destinations one VOIP provider may be cheaper than
> another.
>
>> My calls will be 99.9% to UK landline and mobiles (I have now
>> switched to voipcheap.com for even cheaper mobile calls).
>
> And even cheaper calls to mobiles at the weekend can be had its sister
> company: <http://www.1899.com/>. :)
My VoIP Stunt allows incoming calls from the PSTN and mobiles, I have a
Birmingham 0121 number with them, but they have just recently stopped
supplying numbers.
> My VoIP Stunt allows incoming calls from the PSTN and mobiles, I have a
> Birmingham 0121 number with them, but they have just recently stopped
> supplying numbers.
I have two Voipdiscount.com accounts both with incoming numbers but I
noticed also recently that the info about getting a free incoming number
has gone. I got an 056 UK number not a local one. A local one would be
fantastic though as a lot of companies aren't aware of the VoIP 056
prefix and may think it's a premium number.
Are there are finarea clones left that issue free incoming numbers still?
Thus spaketh Stu:
>> My VoIP Stunt allows incoming calls from the PSTN and mobiles, I
>> have a Birmingham 0121 number with them, but they have just recently
>> stopped supplying numbers.
>
> I have two Voipdiscount.com accounts both with incoming numbers but I
> noticed also recently that the info about getting a free incoming
> number has gone. I got an 056 UK number not a local one. A local one
> would be fantastic though as a lot of companies aren't aware of the
> VoIP 056 prefix and may think it's a premium number.
>
> Are there are finarea clones left that issue free incoming numbers
> still?
> Cheers,
>
> Stu
I think they have all stopped issuing numbers at the moment, it seemed
they only had certain major area codes, if you didn't live in a large
town or city then you received the 0560 number.
> Thus spaketh Stu:
>>> My VoIP Stunt allows incoming calls from the PSTN and mobiles, I
>>> have a Birmingham 0121 number with them, but they have just recently
>>> stopped supplying numbers.
>>
>> I have two Voipdiscount.com accounts both with incoming numbers but I
>> noticed also recently that the info about getting a free incoming
>> number has gone. I got an 056 UK number not a local one. A local one
>> would be fantastic though as a lot of companies aren't aware of the
>> VoIP 056 prefix and may think it's a premium number.
>>
>> Are there are finarea clones left that issue free incoming numbers
>> still?
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Stu
>
>
> I think they have all stopped issuing numbers at the moment, it seemed
> they only had certain major area codes, if you didn't live in a large town
> or city then you received the 0560 number.
voipcheap.co.uk gave me a brilliantly memorable number.
You will forgive me for not posting it in full
0161 700 0XXX and the XXX is pretty memorable too.
The dilema I have is I want to use voipcheap.com instead when the credit
runs out.
Any idea how long your number remains active if you don't top up your
account?
> voipcheap.co.uk gave me a brilliantly memorable number.
> You will forgive me for not posting it in full
> 0161 700 0XXX and the XXX is pretty memorable too.
>
> The dilema I have is I want to use voipcheap.com instead when the credit
> runs out.
>
> Any idea how long your number remains active if you don't top up your
> account?
Same dilemma here. I wanna hop over to voipcheap.com because calls to
Polish mobiles are much cheaper. Seems to be ok to run both voipcheap
and voipdiscount s/w at the same time on one PC.
But of course I don't wanna lose my incoming numbers from zero credit!
Thus spaketh Stu:
>> voipcheap.co.uk gave me a brilliantly memorable number.
>> You will forgive me for not posting it in full
>> 0161 700 0XXX and the XXX is pretty memorable too.
>>
I have a very good number too, this is with VoIP Stunt, wouldn't want to
lose it.
>> The dilema I have is I want to use voipcheap.com instead when the
>> credit runs out.
>>
>> Any idea how long your number remains active if you don't top up your
>> account?
I still have a number active on my VoIPBuster account, I haven't topped
up that for almost a year maybe over a year, I just paid the then €1
credit, I have VoIPCheap and SIP Discount numbers still active and they
haven't been topped up in over six months, I'd be happy for them to give
me the option to hand the numbers back, so they could be put back into
the pool, though again they are good numbers.
>
> Same dilemma here. I wanna hop over to voipcheap.com because calls to
> Polish mobiles are much cheaper. Seems to be ok to run both voipcheap
> and voipdiscount s/w at the same time on one PC.
>
> But of course I don't wanna lose my incoming numbers from zero credit!
I've not lost mine yet, though that doesn't mean they won't start
cutting off / taking back unused numbers.
>> Same dilemma here. I wanna hop over to voipcheap.com because calls to
>> Polish mobiles are much cheaper. Seems to be ok to run both voipcheap
>> and voipdiscount s/w at the same time on one PC.
>>
>> But of course I don't wanna lose my incoming numbers from zero credit!
>
>
> I've not lost mine yet, though that doesn't mean they won't start
> cutting off / taking back unused numbers.
I signed up for voipcheap.com. The credit is valid for 90 days not 120
as specified on the website. I guess it's not too much of a problem.
Would be nice to move my VoIP-in number from voipdiscount to voipcheap.
The free number is very handy with redirection. You call your own Voip
number from your mobile and it redirects to an overseas landline for the
cost of a national call.
> Same dilemma here. I wanna hop over to voipcheap.com because calls to
> Polish mobiles are much cheaper.
Have you compared with Mutualphone? I have found them one of the cheapest
(except for landlines where betamax and babble lead), and credit apparently
never expires. True you need a phone which supports G.729.
In message <eb36c7$4vk$1@news.datemas.de>, Tandy <usenet.andy@gmail.com>
writes
>Paul Cupis wrote:
>
>> Stu wrote:
>> > a lot of companies aren't aware of the VoIP 056
>> > prefix and may think it's a premium number.
>>
>> Name and shame?
>
>Big Yellow Self Storage for one.
>Powergen for two.
>
>Any others?
>
>
NTL won't route 056 numbers originating here (Mid Bedfordshire), but
they apparently do elsewhere.
Tandy wrote:
> Paul Cupis wrote:
>
>> Stu wrote:
>>> a lot of companies aren't aware of the VoIP 056
>>> prefix and may think it's a premium number.
>> Name and shame?
>
> Big Yellow Self Storage for one.
> Powergen for two.
>
> Any others?
Why doesn't everyone use voipcheap ? 
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