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World Plan: $19.95 mo



Unlimited calling to 21 countries including the United States:
Australia
Netherlands
Austria
Norway
Belgium
Singapore
Canada
Spain
Chile
Sweden
China
Switzerland
Denmark
Taiwan
France
United Kingdom
Germany
United States
Ireland
Vatican City
Italy

On 13 Mar 2007 02:01:28 -0700, "priyank shah" <pra_pri123@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>http://www.net2phoneworld.com/unlimi...ice_playn.html
>
>World Plan: $19.95 mo
>
>
>
>Unlimited calling to 21 countries including the United States:
>Australia
> Netherlands
>Austria
> Norway
>Belgium
> Singapore
>Canada
> Spain
>Chile
> Sweden
>China
> Switzerland
>Denmark
> Taiwan
>France
> United Kingdom
>Germany
> United States
>Ireland
> Vatican City
>Italy
Again, like Vonage, you'd have to be making a lot of calls to spend
£10.33/month on voip calls. For some people it might be worth it but
not for most.
If you do it properly, using various providers, programmed into your
ATA, you can do lots of calls at cheap prices. I have accounts for
untimed calls. 2p/call to anywhere in Europe & the US, 4p/call to
OZ., 8p/call to many other destinations for up to 1 hour.

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"Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On 13 Mar 2007 02:01:28 -0700, "priyank shah" <pra_pri123@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>http://www.net2phoneworld.com/unlimi...ice_playn.html
>>
>>World Plan: $19.95 mo
>>
>>
>>
>>Unlimited calling to 21 countries including the United States:
>>Australia
>> Netherlands
>>Austria
>> Norway
>>Belgium
>> Singapore
>>Canada
>> Spain
>>Chile
>> Sweden
>>China
>> Switzerland
>>Denmark
>> Taiwan
>>France
>> United Kingdom
>>Germany
>> United States
>>Ireland
>> Vatican City
>>Italy
> Again, like Vonage, you'd have to be making a lot of calls to spend
> £10.33/month on voip calls. For some people it might be worth it but
> not for most.
> If you do it properly, using various providers, programmed into your
> ATA, you can do lots of calls at cheap prices. I have accounts for
> untimed calls. 2p/call to anywhere in Europe & the US, 4p/call to
> OZ., 8p/call to many other destinations for up to 1 hour.
>
> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.


Hi Brian,

I am a keen advocate and fan of VoIP and all the myriad providers and
services out there.

Please could you provide some details about some (all?) the providers you
use / recommend or would shortlist, etc.

Particularly, your per call charge operators and any other low priced or
free bundled minutes / unlimited calls package providers you use (or perhaps
know of - in that order preferably!!!).

I know of Vyke and hope I introduced this group to it (or some in this group
to it), but was not aware of some other different rate fixed charge per call
operators (e.g. 4p and 8p per call).


Many thanks and best wishes.



News Reader

>Hi Brian,
>
>I am a keen advocate and fan of VoIP and all the myriad providers and
>services out there.
>
>Please could you provide some details about some (all?) the providers you
>use / recommend or would shortlist, etc.
>
>Particularly, your per call charge operators and any other low priced or
>free bundled minutes / unlimited calls package providers you use (or perhaps
>know of - in that order preferably!!!).
>
>I know of Vyke and hope I introduced this group to it (or some in this group
>to it), but was not aware of some other different rate fixed charge per call
>operators (e.g. 4p and 8p per call).
>
>
>Many thanks and best wishes.
>
>
>
>News Reader
>
>
My basic advice is if you want to call to a particular part of the
world then look at VSPs in that area.
For example:
If you want to call OZ mobiles useOZ company pennytel.com
If you want to call Australia landlines and popular international
destinations, such as NZ, choose astratel.com.au
Also, if you can find voip forums, from the area you are calling, you
can get a feel as to which operators to choose. One problem you might
find, as I have just recently, with an OZ company, is that some are
geared up to serving their own country and haven't contemplated a
world market.
In this case, it was impossible for me to fill in the form because it
needed an OZ address, and, if I put in an OZ address, it didn't like
my credit card. I had to phone in and do it all over the phone - not
totally sorted yet.
If you are calling the US then it is always possible to call 1-800
numbers for free over voip and calling some standard landline numbers
can also be free. A US directory enquires service is also available
free. Check out sipbroker.com for all these.


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"Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>>Hi Brian,
>>
>>I am a keen advocate and fan of VoIP and all the myriad providers and
>>services out there.
>>
>>Please could you provide some details about some (all?) the providers you
>>use / recommend or would shortlist, etc.
>>
>>Particularly, your per call charge operators and any other low priced or
>>free bundled minutes / unlimited calls package providers you use (or
>>perhaps
>>know of - in that order preferably!!!).
>>
>>I know of Vyke and hope I introduced this group to it (or some in this
>>group
>>to it), but was not aware of some other different rate fixed charge per
>>call
>>operators (e.g. 4p and 8p per call).
>>
>>
>>Many thanks and best wishes.
>>
>>
>>
>>News Reader
>>
>>
> My basic advice is if you want to call to a particular part of the
> world then look at VSPs in that area.
> For example:
> If you want to call OZ mobiles useOZ company pennytel.com
> If you want to call Australia landlines and popular international
> destinations, such as NZ, choose astratel.com.au
> Also, if you can find voip forums, from the area you are calling, you
> can get a feel as to which operators to choose. One problem you might
> find, as I have just recently, with an OZ company, is that some are
> geared up to serving their own country and haven't contemplated a
> world market.
> In this case, it was impossible for me to fill in the form because it
> needed an OZ address, and, if I put in an OZ address, it didn't like
> my credit card. I had to phone in and do it all over the phone - not
> totally sorted yet.
> If you are calling the US then it is always possible to call 1-800
> numbers for free over voip and calling some standard landline numbers
> can also be free. A US directory enquires service is also available
> free. Check out sipbroker.com for all these.
>
>
> Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.



Hi Brian,


Thanks for your input and suggestions.

I think that is very sound and good advice. I think additionally it is a
good idea to regularly scan the broad marketplace offerings as sometimes
unexpected or unusual offerings are available providing excellent value or
service to a destination that is as may be sought particularly domestic or
otherwise relatively specific to a particular region / market, etc. or even
universally good!


Thanks once again and best wishes,



News Reader

"Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[snip]

> If you are calling the US then it is always possible to
> call 1-800 numbers for free over voip and calling some
> standard landline numbers can also be free.

No - that particular feature depends entirely on the provider, it is by no
means universal. I know that FWD (a US-based company) allow it, but
Sipgate and Gradwell definitely don't. I can't speak for others as I don't
have accounts with any others than these.

Ivor

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:23:31 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
<ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:

>"Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:3mjfv2hon6jiklp4ogmag4cobjqku9vjan@4ax.com
>
>[snip]
>
>> If you are calling the US then it is always possible to
>> call 1-800 numbers for free over voip and calling some
>> standard landline numbers can also be free.
>
>No - that particular feature depends entirely on the provider, it is by no
>means universal. I know that FWD (a US-based company) allow it, but
>Sipgate and Gradwell definitely don't. I can't speak for others as I don't
>have accounts with any others than these.
>
>Ivor
>
That is exactly what I mean though. FWD is free and available through
Sipbroker. Sipbroker requires no registration so it is easy to dial
1-800s via Sipbroker.
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<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:23:31 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> > I know that FWD (a US-based company) allow it, but
> > Sipgate and Gradwell definitely don't.
>
> One would not expect tight wads like these two to do so.

I'm sure they will both be pleased to hear your opinions ;-)

> > I can't speak for others as I don't
> > have accounts with any others than these.

> Very strange Ivor you have account with two providers who
> charge you every time a number is dialed yet you call
> Vonage expensive even though a Vonage account lets you
> call uk and Irish numbers for free 24/7.

But it isn't free, there is a monthly charge. If I only dial 2 or 3
chargeable numbers a month with Sipgate, I only pay for the cost of those
calls, not a monthly rate far in excess of that.

> Anyone who dials 01635 578562 no matter their provider
> can more or less call the world for the cost of a UK call
> or for free evenings and weekends if you have an account
> with a provider like voip.co.uk
> that isn't a tight wad like the two you have mentioned .

Do you work for whoever runs this number, Ron..? You always seem to be
pushing it.

Ivor

"Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:23:31 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
> > "Brian A" <no_spam_bca1000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3mjfv2hon6jiklp4ogmag4cobjqku9vjan@4ax.com
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > > If you are calling the US then it is always possible
> > > to call 1-800 numbers for free over voip and calling
> > > some standard landline numbers can also be free.
> >
> > No - that particular feature depends entirely on the
> > provider, it is by no means universal. I know that FWD
> > (a US-based company) allow it, but Sipgate and Gradwell
> > definitely don't. I can't speak for others as I don't
> > have accounts with any others than these.
> >
> > Ivor
> >
> That is exactly what I mean though. FWD is free and
> available through Sipbroker. Sipbroker requires no
> registration so it is easy to dial 1-800s via Sipbroker.

Ah, right. I assumed you meant that all VoIP providers allowed it.

Ivor

Brian A wrote:
>
>>
>> One problem you might
> find, as I have just recently, with an OZ company, is that some are
> geared up to serving their own country and haven't contemplated a
> world market.
> In this case, it was impossible for me to fill in the form because it
> needed an OZ address, and, if I put in an OZ address, it didn't like
> my credit card. I had to phone in and do it all over the phone - not
> totally sorted yet.

This sort of problem isn't restricted to Oz companies and VOIP.

Even very big international companies who should know better. I've had
exactly this same problem with, of all people, British Airways.
And there, when you phone in with your credit card (instead of filling
in on line) they charge you an extra 15 pounds. But in my case they
still couldn't handle it. I ended up flying on a competing airline.

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 23:51:31 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> > Do you work for whoever runs this number, Ron..? You
> > always seem to be pushing it.
>
> I just happen to think that it is a very good deal
> especially for people who like myself subscribe to a
> service that offers totally free calls to UK numbers
> evenings and weekends plus being able to dial 0845
> numbers also using it is a bonus also .

But it isn't totally free, there is a monthly charge.

> I think I shall also have to start advertising the
> company name here in this FORUM also and you can scream
> and shout and dance up and down but you WON'T stop me

Maybe not today Ron, maybe not today, but I can be patient.

> doing so at least I do not push a GERMAN company at every
> opportunity .

Nor do I.

Ivor

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 19:23:31 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>> I know that FWD (a US-based company) allow it, but
>>Sipgate and Gradwell definitely don't.
>
> One would not expect tight wads like these two to do so.
>> I can't speak for others as I don't
>>have accounts with any others than these.
> Very strange Ivor you have account with two providers who charge you
> every time a number is dialed yet you call Vonage expensive even
> though a Vonage account lets you call uk and Irish numbers for free
> 24/7.
> Anyone who dials 01635 578562 no matter their provider can more or
> less call the world for the cost of a UK call or for free evenings and
> weekends if you have an account with a provider like voip.co.uk
> that isn't a tight wad like the two you have mentioned .


Hi,

I am very interested in / curious about the 01635 number. Is this the one
that was advertised / notified here a while ago offering to provide
international dialthrough (and 0845 dialthrough [allowing dialthrough to UK
0845 numbers] as I recall / you suggest)? I thought it was pulled within a
day or two. Is it back in service or a different number? Is it the same
operator or a different one? When I tried it I got a different ring tone
(like a VoIP device or international ring pattern)... is this actually a
stuttered dial tone to then dial your onward destination number?

Hope all is well! :) ... and thanks for posting about it.


Best wishes,



News Reader

"J Clavox" <clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:55:59 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> > Nor do I.
> Since when has Sipgate been uk based .

I never said it was.

Ivor

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:55:59 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
> > But it isn't totally free, there is a monthly charge.
> Less than ONE PENCE a day Ivor and less than that if you
> pay yearly has I do.

But if I only make three calls in a month that's the best part of 30p,
whereas the call charges on Sipgate would most likely be less than 10p.

> > Maybe not today Ron, maybe not today, but I can be
> > patient.
>
> Greater men than you have tried and failed Ivor .

Maybe so, but your time will come.

Ivor

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:36:37 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
> > <clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> > news:mujiv219fdn1p291pt77383ukksfe3ssu4@4ax.com
> > > On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:55:59 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> > > <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > But it isn't totally free, there is a monthly
> > > > charge.
> > > Less than ONE PENCE a day Ivor and less than that if
> > > you pay yearly has I do.
> >
> > But if I only make three calls in a month that's the
> > best part of 30p, whereas the call charges on Sipgate
> > would most likely be less than 10p.
> >
> > > > Maybe not today Ron, maybe not today, but I can be
> > > > patient.
> > >
> > > Greater men than you have tried and failed Ivor .
> >
> > Maybe so, but your time will come.
>
> I am certain I shall see my grave first .

We can but hope you don't have to wait long.

Ivor

<clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 02:19:30 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> > We can but hope you don't have to wait long.
>
> I intend to see Sipgate go under before I go that is a
> promise .

What you intend and what will actually happen may not necessarily be the
same thing.

I intend to retire a millionaire but I can't see it happening somehow..!


Ivor

"J Clavox" <clavox@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:24:30 -0000, "Ivor Jones"
> <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> > What you intend and what will actually happen may not
> > necessarily be the same thing.
>
> Being a good European I do have friends in Europe Ivor
> and I am working on it believe me .

ROTFLMAO..!

I will never believe a word that comes out of your mouth, Ron.

Ivor