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Old 07-26-2005, 06:56 PM
Graham
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Default www.voipcheap.co.uk


Anyone else got an email from call1899.co.uk inviting you to download a
dialler from what seems to be yet another alias / sister Co.

This time its called www.voipcheap.co.uk

Does anyone know if it works with other applications like X-Lite or hardware
phones?
It looks like unregistered users can make 1min. calls to UK landlines for
free.

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Old 07-27-2005, 12:57 AM
Paul R
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"Graham" <me@privicy.net> wrote in message news:42e686e3_3@x-privat.org...
>
> Anyone else got an email from call1899.co.uk inviting you to download a
> dialler from what seems to be yet another alias / sister Co.
>
> This time its called www.voipcheap.co.uk
>
> Does anyone know if it works with other applications like X-Lite or
> hardware
> phones?
> It looks like unregistered users can make 1min. calls to UK landlines for
> free.
>
> --
> Graham.
>
>
>
> %Profound_observation%


Works very well too,.... where do you get this "one minute" from ?



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Old 07-27-2005, 01:12 AM
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It is voipbuster.com, both names resolve to the same IP address


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Old 07-27-2005, 03:17 AM
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Thus spaketh Paul R:
> "Graham" <me@privicy.net> wrote in message
> news:42e686e3_3@x-privat.org...
>>
>> Anyone else got an email from call1899.co.uk inviting you to
>> download a dialler from what seems to be yet another alias / sister
>> Co. This time its called www.voipcheap.co.uk
>>
>> Does anyone know if it works with other applications like X-Lite or
>> hardware
>> phones?
>> It looks like unregistered users can make 1min. calls to UK
>> landlines for free.
>>
>> --
>> Graham.
>>
>>
>>
>> %Profound_observation%

>
> Works very well too,.... where do you get this "one minute" from ?


http://www.voipcheap.co.uk/en/newsflash.html

VoipCheap Newsflash!

Great news: As from today, VoipCheap is available for all Beta testers! And on
top of that we have added some popular destinations to our list of free
countries as well.

BUT: To counter the misuse of our network and to reserve capacity for our
genuine testers, we have limited our Free-Calls policy to 1 minute per call.
If you want to enjoy UNLIMITED free calls, just register and buy 1 euro worth
of credit.


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Old 07-27-2005, 04:04 AM
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"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:wOadnXQ0i6ktYXvfRVnyig@pipex.net...
> Thus spaketh Paul R:
>> "Graham" <me@privicy.net> wrote in message
>> news:42e686e3_3@x-privat.org...
>>>
>>> Anyone else got an email from call1899.co.uk inviting you to
>>> download a dialler from what seems to be yet another alias / sister
>>> Co. This time its called www.voipcheap.co.uk
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if it works with other applications like X-Lite or
>>> hardware
>>> phones?
>>> It looks like unregistered users can make 1min. calls to UK
>>> landlines for free.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Graham.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> %Profound_observation%

>>
>> Works very well too,.... where do you get this "one minute" from ?

>
> http://www.voipcheap.co.uk/en/newsflash.html
>
> VoipCheap Newsflash!
>
> Great news: As from today, VoipCheap is available for all Beta testers!
> And on top of that we have added some popular destinations to our list of
> free countries as well.
>
> BUT: To counter the misuse of our network and to reserve capacity for our
> genuine testers, we have limited our Free-Calls policy to 1 minute per
> call. If you want to enjoy UNLIMITED free calls, just register and buy 1
> euro worth of credit.
>
>
> --
> For South East Brum: http://www.south-east-birmingham.tk
> For Free £10 credit when you get referred to TalkTalk or £5 when referred
> to easyMobile contact me via above site.



Fair enough ! thanks for that ! .... does voipbuster limit to one minute
too ?



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Old 07-27-2005, 06:40 AM
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"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:wOadnXQ0i6ktYXvfRVnyig@pipex.net...

> VoipCheap Newsflash!


[snip]

This is bordering on advertising guys, please take care. The group does
have a charter.

Ivor



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Old 07-27-2005, 08:17 AM
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:57:14 GMT, "Paul R" <yaesuradio@hotmail.com>
wrote:

(snipped)
>
>Works very well too,.... where do you get this "one minute" from ?


Whenever I try to register it tells me that an unknown error has
rejected my attempt. What I was trying to find out is what CLI it
sends on outbound calls. Does anyone know if it allows you to use the
one that you've registered with 1899 for landline use?

Oldie


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Old 07-27-2005, 10:16 AM
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> People who take a bit of time before adding their comments are far
> more
> appreciated. Trimming is really quite easy, you know :-) "


who do you think yo are, peopel like you and ivor who plice these PUBLIC
forums really are very sad , people will choose to post whatever way they
feel and i for one will not be told by the likes of you and others how or
when i should post.



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Old 07-27-2005, 10:18 AM
Stefan Kaniuk
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> This is bordering on advertising guys, please take care. The group does
> have a charter.
>
> Ivor
>

This is a publice griup--who are you the groups senior vetting officer or
something, you really must get a life and stop picking on everyone when they
dare to cross what you think are your perfect group rules when in fact this
is a public group where anyone can say anything relevant.



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Old 07-27-2005, 10:45 AM
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Stefan Kaniuk wrote:

> This is a publice griup--who are you the groups senior vetting officer or
> something, you really must get a life and stop picking on everyone when they
> dare to cross what you think are your perfect group rules when in fact this
> is a public group where anyone can say anything relevant.
>


Stefanie, before you shoot off your mouth, try doing some reading:
http://tinyurl.com/b36ht

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Old 07-27-2005, 11:05 AM
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"davew" <daviey.walker*SPAM*virgin.net> wrote in message
news:evmdnaSLnLkv-HrfRVnyuw@pipex.net...
> Stefan Kaniuk wrote:
>
>> This is a publice griup--who are you the groups senior vetting officer
>> or something, you really must get a life and stop picking on everyone
>> when they dare to cross what you think are your perfect group rules
>> when in fact this is a public group where anyone can say anything
>> relevant.

>
> Stefanie, before you shoot off your mouth, try doing some reading:
> http://tinyurl.com/b36ht



Thanks, I was just about to post something similar, but I can't seem to
access www.usenet.org.uk at the moment, anyone else having problems or is
it just me..?!

Ivor



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Old 07-27-2005, 11:43 AM
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> So it still does not prevent people posting what they want to any
> group and this argument has been going on for years , at least since
> Demon internet came into being .


true it just annoys me so much that these people, professionals in theri
respective areas that they may be, treat this PUBLIC forum like their own
personal playground, they think everyone should play by their rules but
that certainly isnt the case, whilst most posters on here will find most of
the stuf useful certain posters need to relise their is more to their lives
than replying and posting on here 24/7



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Old 07-27-2005, 01:34 PM
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> if people would just ignore these posters who post spam etc etc
> instead of drawing attention to it has it only encourages them to post
> more and more .
>
>


seconded, ivor are you taking note of the origianl op's comment about not
reposting people spam rubbish.



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Old 07-27-2005, 02:05 PM
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"Stefan Kaniuk" <s.kaniuk@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:D3MFe.9779$Oe4.1542@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
>
>> if people would just ignore these posters who post spam etc etc
>> instead of drawing attention to it has it only encourages them to
>> post
>> more and more .
>>

> seconded, ivor are you taking note of the origianl op's comment about
> not reposting people spam rubbish.


I'm expecting Cilla Black along any minute, with 'Surprise Surprise
Stefan, we have found your long lost brother Dexter' ;-)



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Old 07-27-2005, 02:32 PM
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> Look mate if people who have no authority over what I do and when I do
> it come telling me NOT to do something I will endeavor to do it more
> and more same goes for spammers etc the more you scream and shout at
> them the more spam they will post .


agreed , anyone who cant and doesnt have the authority over me either wants
me or tells me to do something i dont like i simply wont do it end of.



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Old 07-27-2005, 02:33 PM
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"GwG" <sorrythisdoesntwork@guess.uk.co> wrote in

i see your an ntl customer what a good choice simply the best and fastest
isp around, never had one issue with them EVER



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Old 07-27-2005, 02:59 PM
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"Stefan Kaniuk" <s.kaniuk@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:%rKFe.3514$hc4.1751@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
>> So it still does not prevent people posting what they want to any
>> group and this argument has been going on for years , at least since
>> Demon internet came into being .

>
> true it just annoys me so much that these people, professionals in
> theri respective areas that they may be, treat this PUBLIC forum like
> their own personal playground, they think everyone should play by their
> rules but that certainly isnt the case, whilst most posters on here
> will find most of the stuf useful certain posters need to relise their
> is more to their lives than replying and posting on here 24/7


Firstly, this is not a forum it is a newsgroup. Not pedantry, there are
specific differences.

Secondly, they are not *my* rules and it is not me personally telling you
what you can or cannot do, it is *common sense* and *respect for other
people*. This group, as with all others in the uk. hierarchy are created
to specific rules laid down and one of them is that if the group charter
specifies no advertising then that is what should be respected.

Also Stefan you should be aware that consistent abuse can and will be
reported to the poster's ISP. They have been known to revoke an account in
extreme circumstances, so you may want to rethink your attitude. The
"it's-the-internet-and-I-can-do-as-I-like-and-you-can't-stop-me" attitude
is childish and serves only to confirm other people's attitudes towards
you and your actions.

It may well be the internet but you *cannot* do exactly as you please in
all circumstances, there *are* rules that you should abide by and only
someone with no regard for others would disregard them.

Some more reading you may find informative:

www.usenet.org.uk - General information and guidelines on the uk group
hierarchy
www.usenet.org.uk/hierarchy.html - Info about and links to charters for uk
groups
www.abuse-guidance.com/usenet_guidance.html - Info from BT on their
attitude to usenet abuse - note this line from that document:
8. Do not post advertisements into newsgroups of a non-commercial bias.

A Google search on "usenet abuse" will produce a lot more.


Regards

Ivor



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Old 07-27-2005, 03:00 PM
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davew <daviey.walker*SPAM*virgin.net> wrote:
[...]
> Stefanie, before you shoot off your mouth, try doing some reading:
> http://tinyurl.com/b36ht


Wow, you still see his posts to be able to reply to them? I'm quite
impressed that there's still somebody left who hasn't killfiled him
along with Dexter.

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Old 07-27-2005, 04:30 PM
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"Al" <e@aa.invalid> wrote in message
news:587de1lo0b0do35t4t92a6455a2qd812m6@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 19:56:24 +0100, Graham wrote:
>
>>Does anyone know if it works with other applications like X-Lite or
>>hardware
>>phones?
>>It looks like unregistered users can make 1min. calls to UK landlines for
>>free.

>
> It's a carbon copy of VoIPbuster so yes, it should work with these
> other applications and ATAs.
>


Will it work with ATA's? What are the settings?

Tom



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Old 07-27-2005, 06:02 PM
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> seconded, ivor are you taking note of the origianl op's comment about not
> reposting people spam rubbish.



First, just a point of fact Stephan, I was the OP of this thread and I made
no such comment.

Ivor and Davew contend that the no advertising rule has been contravened in
this thread.
In my opinion nobody has come even close to this.

True, the subject field I chose was in a form that a spammer *might* have
used, this was quite deliberate and I make no apology for it. (It certainly
didn't seem to prevent people reading and contributing to the thread)

The body of my OP made it clear that far from promoting a product or service
my purpose was to stimulate a discussion about a 'new' one that had come to
my attention. If that isn't an appropriate topic for this Newsgroup (sorry
Ivor, Forum), then I don't know what is.

Actually I don't think my contribution was specifically referred to by Ivor
or Davew, anyone who does object should take the foregoing as a pre-emptive
strike.

Welcome's post definitely was criticised, and all he did was quote from a
website!


Perhaps Cilla has her work cut out, its not often that I find myself
agreeing with you Stephan.

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Old 07-27-2005, 06:07 PM
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> Perhaps Cilla has her work cut out, its not often that I find myself
> agreeing with you Stephan.


Apologies for mis-spelling your name (understandable as you have many
aliases eh Stefan?)
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Old 07-27-2005, 06:08 PM
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Graham wrote:
>
> ...Davew contend that the no advertising rule has been contravened in
> this thread.


Did i?

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Old 07-27-2005, 06:26 PM
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> Graham wrote:
> >
> > ...Davew contend that the no advertising rule has been contravened in
> > this thread.

>
> Did i?


No, in fact you didn't.
You reminded Stefan that there were in fact rules regarding there groups.

Pax?



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Old 07-27-2005, 08:27 PM
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> To tell the trouth I think they should be put out of buseness like
> their cable counterpart Telewest they are also a lying cheating
> shower of bastards also , however by the end of next month they and
> their equipment will be out of this house for good.


we all have different experiences dont we dex so you may just have been
unlucky per se



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Old 07-27-2005, 08:27 PM
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> Apologies for mis-spelling your name (understandable as you have many
> aliases eh Stefan?)
> --


>


if you say so



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Old 07-28-2005, 05:49 AM
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Thus spaketh Ivor Jones:
> "Stefan Kaniuk" <s.kaniuk@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:%rKFe.3514$hc4.1751@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>>

>
> Secondly, they are not *my* rules and it is not me personally telling
> you what you can or cannot do, it is *common sense* and *respect for
> other people*. This group, as with all others in the uk. hierarchy
> are created to specific rules laid down and one of them is that if
> the group charter specifies no advertising then that is what should
> be respected.
> Also Stefan you should be aware that consistent abuse can and will be
> reported to the poster's ISP. They have been known to revoke an
> account in extreme circumstances, so you may want to rethink your
> attitude. The
> "it's-the-internet-and-I-can-do-as-I-like-and-you-can't-stop-me"
> attitude is childish and serves only to confirm other people's
> attitudes towards you and your actions.
> It may well be the internet but you *cannot* do exactly as you please
> in all circumstances, there *are* rules that you should abide by and
> only someone with no regard for others would disregard them.
>


I don't believe there has been any advertising.

If you don't mention a VoIP provider how can one discuss the matter, or is it
the fact only Sipgate can be mentioned?

There was a question of where the 1 minute cut off was stated, and I posted
the reference.

http://www.voipcheap.co.uk is a new service, if it wasn't posted I wouldn't
have known about it until I finally received the email.

How did others hear about Sipgate or Vonage, if people hadn't posted their
details on newsgroups.

I just can not see how what was posted could be classed as advertising.



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Thus spaketh Oldie:
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:57:14 GMT, "Paul R" <yaesuradio@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> (snipped)
>>
>> Works very well too,.... where do you get this "one minute" from ?

>
> Whenever I try to register it tells me that an unknown error has
> rejected my attempt. What I was trying to find out is what CLI it
> sends on outbound calls. Does anyone know if it allows you to use the
> one that you've registered with 1899 for landline use?
>
> Oldie



The unknown errror could possibly be you are trying to register the same
username as you have on VoIPBuster.


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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 06:50:00 +0100, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
<bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>Thus spaketh Oldie:
>> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 00:57:14 GMT, "Paul R" <yaesuradio@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> (snipped)
>>>
>>> Works very well too,.... where do you get this "one minute" from ?

>>
>> Whenever I try to register it tells me that an unknown error has
>> rejected my attempt. What I was trying to find out is what CLI it
>> sends on outbound calls. Does anyone know if it allows you to use the
>> one that you've registered with 1899 for landline use?
>>
>> Oldie

>
>
>The unknown errror could possibly be you are trying to register the same
>username as you have on VoIPBuster.


Nope. Haven't got VoIPBuster.

Oldie


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Old 07-31-2005, 05:56 PM
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I would like to second that.


"Stefan Kaniuk" <s.kaniuk@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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|
| > People who take a bit of time before adding their comments are far
| > more
| > appreciated. Trimming is really quite easy, you know :-) "
|
| who do you think yo are, peopel like you and ivor who plice these PUBLIC
| forums really are very sad , people will choose to post whatever way they
| feel and i for one will not be told by the likes of you and others how or
| when i should post.
|
|







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Old 07-31-2005, 08:55 PM
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"Stefan Kaniuk" <s.kaniuk@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
>> People who take a bit of time before adding their comments are far
>> more
>> appreciated. Trimming is really quite easy, you know :-) "

>
> who do you think yo are, peopel like you and ivor who plice these PUBLIC
> forums really are very sad , people will choose to post whatever way
> they feel and i for one will not be told by the likes of you and others
> how or when i should post.


This isn't a forum it's a newsgroup set up under a charter. You are
correct in that you have no *obligation* to comply with the charter but it
says a lot about you that you are so abusive about refusing to do so.

Ivor



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