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Old 08-23-2005, 04:35 PM
martinkee@gmail.com
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Default www.voipfone.co.uk Plug & Go

I must say I am well pleased with the plug & go snom 190 I ordered from
Voipfone yesterday.

It arrived today at about 10:30am I took it out of the box plugged in
the network cable plugged in the power and switched it on. So far so
good....

Once the phone had finished starting up within a couple of seconds my
account number came up on the screen and I was making calls no messing
about it was really really simple even for me.

I also want to buy an adaptor for home and quite fancied the Sipura
2000 but it looks like voipfone have sold out does anyone know what the
difference is between the Sipura 2000 and the Sipura 2002?

Martin Keen

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Old 08-23-2005, 04:49 PM
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> does anyone know what the difference is between the Sipura 2000 and the Sipura 2002?

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Old 08-23-2005, 06:47 PM
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<martinkee@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1124814947.690182.117990@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I must say I am well pleased with the plug & go snom 190 I ordered from
> Voipfone yesterday.
>
> It arrived today at about 10:30am I took it out of the box plugged in
> the network cable plugged in the power and switched it on. So far so
> good....
>
> Once the phone had finished starting up within a couple of seconds my
> account number came up on the screen and I was making calls no messing
> about it was really really simple even for me.
>
> I also want to buy an adaptor for home and quite fancied the Sipura
> 2000 but it looks like voipfone have sold out does anyone know what the
> difference is between the Sipura 2000 and the Sipura 2002?
>

The 2002 is the replacement for the 2000.

Ian



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Old 08-23-2005, 06:52 PM
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"Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
news:11gmrpfntgckga1@corp.supernews.com
> <martinkee@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1124814947.690182.117990@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...


[snip]

> > I also want to buy an adaptor for home and quite
> > fancied the Sipura 2000 but it looks like voipfone have
> > sold out does anyone know what the difference is
> > between the Sipura 2000 and the Sipura 2002?
> >

> The 2002 is the replacement for the 2000.


But as he said, what are the differences..? I have a 2000, is there any
reason I should consider a 2002..?

Ivor



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Old 08-23-2005, 07:43 PM
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Ivor Jones wrote:
> "Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:11gmrpfntgckga1@corp.supernews.com
> > <martinkee@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1124814947.690182.117990@g49g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...

>
> [snip]
>
> > > I also want to buy an adaptor for home and quite
> > > fancied the Sipura 2000 but it looks like voipfone have
> > > sold out does anyone know what the difference is
> > > between the Sipura 2000 and the Sipura 2002?
> > >

> > The 2002 is the replacement for the 2000.

>
> But as he said, what are the differences..? I have a 2000, is there any
> reason I should consider a 2002..?
>
> Ivor


I dont see any differences apart from about £4 may be the 2002 is just
a more up to date version

Mat


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Old 08-23-2005, 07:51 PM
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"Mathew Curtis" <mathew.j.curtis@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Ivor Jones wrote:


[snip]

> > But as he said, what are the differences..? I have a
> > 2000, is there any reason I should consider a 2002..?

>
> I dont see any differences apart from about £4 may be the
> 2002 is just a more up to date version


Like I said, more up to date in what respect..? There must be some
differences besides a model name change and a new casing, or why bother..?

Ivor



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Old 08-23-2005, 08:09 PM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Mathew Curtis" <mathew.j.curtis@gmail.com> wrote in
> message
> news:1124826222.378953.193240@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com
> > Ivor Jones wrote:

>
> [snip]
>
> > > But as he said, what are the differences..? I have a
> > > 2000, is there any reason I should consider a 2002..?

> >
> > I dont see any differences apart from about £4 may be the
> > 2002 is just a more up to date version

>
> Like I said, more up to date in what respect..? There must be some
> differences besides a model name change and a new casing, or why bother..?
>

More upto date in the respect of its being made to a price, and the 2000 is
soon to be obsolete.
Since the launch of the 2000 the price point for ATAs has dropped dramaticly
and wages and raw materials in the far east has gone up and new chipsets
launched.
So as a supplier you have to cut costs.

The 2000 is supplied under the Vegstream brand that is aimed at the business
market so it may remain there and the sipura keep going with the domestic
kit.

Sipura will need to get an ATA at a pricepoint that Voip service providers
will ship in quantity like the vonage box to remain competative.

Ian

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Old 08-23-2005, 08:43 PM
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"Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
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[snip]

> More upto date in the respect of its being made to a
> price, and the 2000 is soon to be obsolete.
> Since the launch of the 2000 the price point for ATAs has
> dropped dramaticly and wages and raw materials in the
> far east has gone up and new chipsets launched.
> So as a supplier you have to cut costs.
>
> The 2000 is supplied under the Vegstream brand that is
> aimed at the business market so it may remain there and
> the sipura keep going with the domestic kit.
>
> Sipura will need to get an ATA at a pricepoint that Voip
> service providers will ship in quantity like the vonage
> box to remain competative.


But are there any *technical* differences that make it worth the upgrade
to an existing 2000 user, i.e. me..?!

Ivor



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Old 08-23-2005, 09:15 PM
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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:11gn0jg4ma85mdf@corp.supernews.com
>
> [snip]
>
> > More upto date in the respect of its being made to a
> > price, and the 2000 is soon to be obsolete.
> > Since the launch of the 2000 the price point for ATAs has
> > dropped dramaticly and wages and raw materials in the
> > far east has gone up and new chipsets launched.
> > So as a supplier you have to cut costs.
> >
> > The 2000 is supplied under the Vegstream brand that is
> > aimed at the business market so it may remain there and
> > the sipura keep going with the domestic kit.
> >
> > Sipura will need to get an ATA at a pricepoint that Voip
> > service providers will ship in quantity like the vonage
> > box to remain competative.

>
> But are there any *technical* differences that make it worth the upgrade
> to an existing 2000 user, i.e. me..?!


Well what don't you like about the 2000 ? until today you thought it was one
of the best ATAs avalible what has changed ?.

But basicly they are the same AFAICS

Ian




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Old 08-23-2005, 10:22 PM
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"Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk> wrote in message
news:11gn4g8ra1o2925@corp.supernews.com
> "Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
> news:3n1g3oF197ha1U1@individual.net...


[snip]

> > But are there any *technical* differences that make it
> > worth the upgrade to an existing 2000 user, i.e. me..?!

>
> Well what don't you like about the 2000 ? until today you
> thought it was one of the best ATAs avalible what has
> changed ?.


I think you're missing the point. I am just asking what differences there
are or what improvements have been made in order that I can decide whether
an upgrade is warranted. There is nothing particularly about the 2000 that
I dislike, it's an excellent unit, but if it has been replaced there must
be a reason.. That may be merely financial on the company's behalf, or
there may be a technical improvement that an existing user would benefit
from.

If the difference is purely cosmetic, i.e. the same basic device in a new
box, then it's not worth bothering with. If it has improvements and new
facilities then it might be.

> But basicly they are the same AFAICS


That answers my question, thanks.

Ivor



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Old 08-24-2005, 09:44 AM
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Mark wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:15:52 +0100, "Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> >But basicly they are the same AFAICS

>
> Ahem... they are not the same:
>
> http://voxilla.com/modules.php?op=mo...rticle&sid=161
>
> "....In addition, the SPA-2002 has twice the amount of system memory
> as the SPA-2000, which gives Sipura the ability to provide further
> enhancements to the device. One enhancement that will use this extra
> memory is T.38 support for faxing, which will be available in a later
> firmware release."
>
> --
> Mark


Thanks i am going to go for the 2002 then will it work with my standard
bt dect phone ok?

Martin Keen


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Old 08-24-2005, 11:40 AM
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"Mark" <codvimyst@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 22:15:52 +0100, "Ian" <spam"AT"bathfordhill.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
> >But basicly they are the same AFAICS

>
> Ahem... they are not the same:
>

The word I used was basicly.

> http://voxilla.com/modules.php?op=mo...rticle&sid=161
>
> "....In addition, the SPA-2002 has twice the amount of system memory
> as the SPA-2000, which gives Sipura the ability to provide further
> enhancements to the device. One enhancement that will use this extra
> memory is T.38 support for faxing, which will be available in a later
> firmware release."


I never sell or buy on what will be avalible in a "future" release.
Experiance tells me the "future" sometimes never comes.
At the moment they provide the same functions . Sipura dont even say that
T38 is pending.

At the moment users should buy the 2002 as its the "current" model, for what
it does not what it may do.

Ian



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Old 08-24-2005, 12:35 PM
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martinkee@gmail.com wrote:
> I must say I am well pleased with the plug & go snom 190 I ordered from
> Voipfone yesterday.
>
> It arrived today at about 10:30am I took it out of the box plugged in
> the network cable plugged in the power and switched it on. So far so
> good....
>
> Once the phone had finished starting up within a couple of seconds my
> account number came up on the screen and I was making calls no messing
> about it was really really simple even for me.
>
> I also want to buy an adaptor for home and quite fancied the Sipura
> 2000 but it looks like voipfone have sold out does anyone know what the
> difference is between the Sipura 2000 and the Sipura 2002?
>
> Martin Keen
>
> ========================================
> = Living Today Like It Will Be My Last =
> ========================================


I just got my new snom phone and a snom headset from Voipfone and it
really is plug and go I never had to do anything except plug it in

Mat


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