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Old 10-19-2012, 07:14 PM
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Default VOIP over 3G (symmetric NAT)

Hi everyone,

I'm currently developing a peer to peer VOIP application for iPhone and Android.
I have created a STUN-like + rendez-vous server.
I have tried the whole thing over WIFI (behind a domestic NAT) everything works fine.
I have to mobile ISP, one allowing everything (VOIP + P2P + MODEM) (ISP 1)
another one allowing everything but P2P. (ISP 2)

When trying over the ISP 1, it works fine also.
However, when I try with the ISP 2, udp packet doesn't go through.

I have connected my computer with the phone on ISP 2, and ran TUM NAT Analyzer.

It is a NAT Analyzer, telling me

Code:
UPnP Test (?):	No UPnP device found

STUN Test (?):	Symmetric NAT

UDP Binding Test (?):	Endpoint depenent binding, port prediction may be hard
TCP Binding Test:	Endpoint depenent binding, port prediction may be hard

UDP Mapping Test (?):	local and external IP addresses were different 
(NAT). Your source ports were not preserved. It may be hard to predict your external source port.
TCP Mapping Test:	local and external IP addresses were different (NAT).
Your source ports were not preserved. It may be hard to predict your external source port.

SIP ALG (?):	The initial SIP INVITE packet has not been modified on its way to our servers.
There is no SIP ALG involved
FTP ALG:	The initial FTP PORT command has been modified.
Most probably, your NAT implements a FTP-ALG
So apparently it is using a symmetric NAT with random port affectation (no way to use port prediction apparently).

So I was wondering, an ISP that allows VOIP but not P2P (And no SIP ALG), does it expect for VOIP to use a relay server in order to work ?

Or Am I missing something...
As I understand AT&T (and probably others) uses the same kind of NAT that my ISP 2... (symmetric NAT) so that become a huge issue, I guess....

Anyone though, idea, reaction would be great.

Thank you !
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